I don't know if this as already been requested or not (and before you start flamming me, I did search).
I want to ask the cook community if it's possible to release and apk of the sense ui for the official 1.6 rom (I know I could just flash a new rom, but I don't have the expertise to do it by myself).
My reasoning for making this request is the following.
If it's possible to include the Sense in several roms, them it should be possible to create an .apk to install it, like when you install htc home screen on windows mobile pocket pc.
thanks for reading.
p.s. unless you have something useful to add, no waste your time and the forum resources just to say, for example, "it can't be done" if you are not a developer.
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I want to ask the cook community if it's possible to release and apk of the sense ui for the official 1.6 rom (I know I could just flash a new rom, but I don't have the expertise to do it by myself).
p.s. unless you have something useful to add, no waste your time and the forum resources just to say, for example, "it can't be done" if you are not a developer.
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How is saying "it can't be done" not useful? That's like me asking someone to make my magic faster than a computer! Is that possible? Probably not and I think it'd be nice (if I actually thought it could happen) if someone informed me that it's not possible.
I'm not a dev, but I think I can come up with reasonable answers for your question.
Since you aren't even able to flash a new rom (which requires pressing about 5 buttons after root, I don't know how you're not able to do that?), I'm assuming you know almost nothing and I thought it'd be a good idea to inform you, that something like this would be a waste of time and almost impossible. so, it can't really be done. Installing an APK file goes into your system/app or data/app. The sense ui has a freak ton of APK files along with it so installing just 1 apk file well (in my opinion) would not work out well at all. I believe there are also these odex files or whatever (I don't know much about them) but if I'm correct, those will also cause more problems. I belive that the original sense ui has a bunch of apk files in the system/app/ folder and people here even have issues porting out stuff from it, so good luck getting the whole thing out into an APK file on an unrooted phone.
It makes no sense to do this when we could just flash a rom.
Maybe someone could do something like the dxtop or GDE or w/e but that stuff lags like crazy and would probably be missing a lot of things from sense ui. Sense UI is nice and smooth, but already has some lag. It would be horrible and totally a bad idea imo.
Oh and one last thing, it's being done on the 2.1 right now. Why go back to 1.6
I find it ironic that you complain not to waste time and to not post something like "it can't be done." I could've just said that instead of explaining it to you but whatever, I could be wrong. I doubt you understood anything anyways and I think you sort of wasted the time of whoever read this because you didn't do enough research. But if someone can actually do this! Then I'm sorry for wasting your time. But I doubt it.
Whoevers going to do this, good luck lol.
I almost forgot to mention, There's like 1 sense ui rom for 32b. If it was easy, there would be more. Sooo since you're requesting this for 32B, I'm pretty sure.. it's not possible
My friend your response was more than useful. Finally someone explain it like I was (which I am) a complete noob.
As for your strangeness on my inability to install a custom rom, well, let me put it this way, I don't understand half of the steps to get the phone rooted, the right spl, radio and so on... In fact, the only flaw I have to point to the xda-community is that most, if not all, simply assume that everyone knows the "technical" terms by heart, which is not true. And you my friend (allow me to call you that) just made me an huge favor, by putting it in very simple and plain terms.
I'm surprised you found it useful lol, I thought you'd find it more confusing.
The only way you'll really understand and learn it is to do it. For starters, do not touch your Hboot/SPL and Radio. That's the main reason people brick. For example, some people think it's a good idea to erase their Hboot and then reboot the phone. I don't know why, but as long as you don't touch the things which have high risk, you'll be fine. Just follow instructions and play with it (It will consume a lot of time though). Another advice is to get a recovery image on your phone first. Otherwise, you'll encounter a soft brick which may be a pain in the ass
sense for 1.6... i dont think its possible... but there is a tattoo rom out there if u look for it in the g1/dream forum... that is 1.6 with sense ui
ceas909 said:
sense for 1.6... i dont think its possible... but there is a tattoo rom out there if u look for it in the g1/dream forum... that is 1.6 with sense ui
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normally i don't do this but i don't honestly think you have any idea what you 're talking about.
Sense was first run on 1.5 under the old hero framework last summer. The Droid Eris and Sprint Hero still haven't undergone OTA updates and are still running on 1.5 it was htc's decision to bypass 1.6 altogether.
So having said that, its possible if someone were to take the time to wade through HTC's garble and put it on a 1.6 OS, but why do that when eclair is out???
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My friend your response was more than useful. Finally someone explain it like I was (which I am) a complete noob.
As for your strangeness on my inability to install a custom rom, well, let me put it this way, I don't understand half of the steps to get the phone rooted, the right spl, radio and so on... In fact, the only flaw I have to point to the xda-community is that most, if not all, simply assume that everyone knows the "technical" terms by heart, which is not true. And you my friend (allow me to call you that) just made me an huge favor, by putting it in very simple and plain terms.
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Rooting a rom is a big step but an easy step. Let me tell you the best place to begin sort of a precursor before you come to XDA and thats TheUnlockr.com...They have all the tutorials for rooting, etc with video links to make it a "nice transition". thats where i started...then come back here and get ya feet dirty
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normally i don't do this but i don't honestly think you have any idea what you 're talking about.
Sense was first run on 1.5 under the old hero framework last summer. The Droid Eris and Sprint Hero still haven't undergone OTA updates and are still running on 1.5 it was htc's decision to bypass 1.6 altogether.
So having said that, its possible if someone were to take the time to wade through HTC's garble and put it on a 1.6 OS, but why do that when eclair is out???
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i can see why u dont normally do it.. because u dont know what ur talking about... the htc tattoo is running sense ui on top of donut.. its the only phone that got it... so check your info before u accuse someone of not knowing what they are talking about..
heres some proof http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_tattoo-review-460.php notice where it says Android OS v1.6 (Sense UI) under specs....
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My friend your response was more than useful. Finally someone explain it like I was (which I am) a complete noob.
As for your strangeness on my inability to install a custom rom, well, let me put it this way, I don't understand half of the steps to get the phone rooted, the right spl, radio and so on... In fact, the only flaw I have to point to the xda-community is that most, if not all, simply assume that everyone knows the "technical" terms by heart, which is not true. And you my friend (allow me to call you that) just made me an huge favor, by putting it in very simple and plain terms.
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I can see your apprehension on rooting your phone, but you yourself said you did a lot of research on getting a sense APK for your unrooted phone. why not use some of the research time looking on this crazy website called google.com where you can search things like "how to root a MT3G 32B" upon doing so you will discover a WIDE selection of how to's, you also might find that they link you directly to videos on this other website called youtube.com that show you STEP by STEP how to root your phone. one might say its so easy a caveman could do it.
IMHO if you're too lazy to do any of these things, you probably shouldnt root your phone at all. people wouldnt flame you if didnt come off like an asshole in your first post.
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i can see why u dont normally do it.. because u dont know what ur talking about... the htc tattoo is running sense ui on top of donut.. its the only phone that got it... so check your info before u accuse someone of not knowing what they are talking about..
hears some proof http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_tattoo-review-460.php notice where it says Android OS v1.6 (Sense UI) under specs....
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i didn't accuse you of anything shYtbrick...if tatoo is running sense ie 1.6 being greater than 1.5 then why make your first statement about it not being possible at all?
go play in traffic....
and btw, HERES some proof, not HEARS....F me
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i didn't accuse you of anything shYtbrick...if tatoo is running sense ie 1.6 being greater than 1.5 then why make your first statement about it not being possible at all?
go play in traffic....
and btw, HERES some proof, not HEARS....F me
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well if u looked at the op he was asking about getting the sense apk (rosie) and putting it in a 1.6 rom... and ur the dumb f*ck that stepped in with a pointless and idiotic response...idiotic because you didnt bother to search before saying i didnt know what i was talking about...
Tattoo is 1.6, but it's a WVGA device, G1 is a HVGA device then all object in Tattoo will be small than your G1 screen.
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Tattoo is 1.6, but it's a WVGA device, G1 is a HVGA device then all object in Tattoo will be small than your G1 screen.
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yea thats true.. but the rom that i was refering too had some framework edits still not perfect but its atleast good enough to try it out..
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well if u looked at the op he was asking about getting the sense apk (rosie) and putting it in a 1.6 rom... and ur the dumb f*ck that stepped in with a pointless and idiotic response...idiotic because you didnt bother to search before saying i didnt know what i was talking about...
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damned please don't reply because you keep getting worse..your inital quote,
"sense for 1.6... i dont think its possible... but there is a tattoo rom out there if u look for it in the g1/dream forum... that is 1.6 with sense ui"
Which is it shYtbrick? Sense IS or IS NOT POSSIBLE on 1.6?
You contradicted ya damn self
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normally i don't do this but i don't honestly think you have any idea what you 're talking about.
Sense was first run on 1.5 under the old hero framework last summer. The Droid Eris and Sprint Hero still haven't undergone OTA updates and are still running on 1.5 it was htc's decision to bypass 1.6 altogether.
So having said that, its possible if someone were to take the time to wade through HTC's garble and put it on a 1.6 OS, but why do that when eclair is out???
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no eugene made a tattoo 1.6 sense rom, but there was a MAJOR ISSUE WITH SCREEN SIZE. its fully functional, just everything is half as big...
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damned please don't reply because you keep getting worse..your inital quote,
"sense for 1.6... i dont think its possible... but there is a tattoo rom out there if u look for it in the g1/dream forum... that is 1.6 with sense ui"
Which is it shYtbrick? Sense IS or IS NOT POSSIBLE on 1.6?
You contradicted ya damn self
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ur an idiot.. the op wants to know if its possible to build a 1.6 rom and add sense to it... its not possible if not it would had already been done!... but htc did do it on the tattoo..and only works on the tattoo... there is a tattoo port out there for the mt3g/g1 but thats it.... yea my first post wasnt very clear.. but i was just letting the op know about the tattoo port incase he wanted to try it out...
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Why is no one porting MotoBlur and Pulse to the Sapphire MT3G? Why is everyone so stuck on Hero?
There HAVE been blur ports in the past. Do a little research before you make generalized statements. And Hero is more popular because it already came off an HTC device. It's easier to cook.
Please do just a little research before creating a new topic!
now the real question is why we dont see these for the 32a
Moto Blur & Pulse
Question, and maybe someone can direct me where to find it but whats the difference between Pulse, and Motoblur?
Polaris and Ronni... I did research before posting and found only one pulse rom and 3 motoblur roms compared to the hundreds of hero roms. My post was simple and just a question. Why? That was all. If I was a youngster with no forum know how, then your down talking would be understood. Thanks anyway.
zeroplace said:
Polaris and Ronni... I did research before posting and found only one pulse rom and 3 motoblur roms compared to the hundreds of hero roms. My post was simple and just a question. Why? That was all. If I was a youngster with no forum know how, then your down talking would be understood. Thanks anyway.
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Sorry but your post "Why is no one porting MotoBlur and Pulse to the Sapphire MT3G?" makes it seem like you didn't research at all. Like polaris0352 wrote is that Hero is easier to cook plus it's more popular. But i hope it won't be long before we start to see more non-htc roms for our magics!
I think part of the reason is that GPS and WiFi don't work, which means the uptake is a lot less. Once WiFi and GPS are working (which apparently won't happen until Dragon is available) then I'd bet more ports of these roms will start to appear. I like Blur and would make it my permanent rom if the wireless wasn't an issue.
ronni.rasmussen said:
Sorry but your post "Why is no one porting MotoBlur and Pulse to the Sapphire MT3G?" makes it seem like you didn't research at all. Like polaris0352 wrote is that Hero is easier to cook plus it's more popular. But i hope it won't be long before we start to see more non-htc roms for our magics!
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because hero comes from an HTC phone wich would lead one to believe it would be much easier to run on our HTC phones...
motoblur was alright didnt like the feel and its hard to make moto and HTC play nice
Pulse....welll.... i think pulse sucked others like it though
I know there are at least 3 pulse roms that are decent and there are 2-3 blur roms that run enough to use
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now the real question is why we dont see these for the 32a
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I've created 32A porting packages for both Pulse and MotoBlur ROM some time ago.
TomasTrek said:
I think part of the reason is that GPS and WiFi don't work, which means the uptake is a lot less. Once WiFi and GPS are working (which apparently won't happen until Dragon is available) then I'd bet more ports of these roms will start to appear. I like Blur and would make it my permanent rom if the wireless wasn't an issue.
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Im running a Blur Rom that WiFi is working on but there were no instructions on partition setup, if any. It is real smooth but when I put my own wallpaper on, it seems to slow down a bit.
zeroplace said:
Im running a Blur Rom that WiFi is working on but there were no instructions on partition setup, if any. It is real smooth but when I put my own wallpaper on, it seems to slow down a bit.
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is it for 32a??
if yes provide me the link
thx
zeroplace said:
Im running a Blur Rom that WiFi is working on but there were no instructions on partition setup, if any. It is real smooth but when I put my own wallpaper on, it seems to slow down a bit.
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Can you Post a Link to the WiFi working Blur?
I've not seen any Blur with WiFi working at all due to the Kernel requirements.
I will have to find the link for you guys. The Rom is running on my MT3G 32B Rooted. Im going to assume that the WiFi works for that Im using WiFi Tether to connect to the internet with my laptop as I type. I will get a link after while. The file name is MotoCliq_v0.5.zip. I think Drizzy put it out. Not for certain though.
zeroplace said:
I will have to find the link for you guys. The Rom is running on my MT3G 32B Rooted. Im going to assume that the WiFi works for that Im using WiFi Tether to connect to the internet with my laptop as I type. I will get a link after while. The file name is MotoCliq_v0.5.zip. I think Drizzy put it out. Not for certain though.
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32B here? http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=916
32A here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=569329&page=5
parrot5 said:
32B here? http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=916
32A here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=569329&page=5
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The reason for the lack of ports is honestly the firmware being so tied to social aspects. All the "cool" features are in the UI with the social stuff, but the rest of the firmware... well... sucks. I ported both and got bored in a couple days. Hero has new dumps and new versions of sense and the prospect of updating to 1.6 and eventually 2.0 These are done. One dump, one version, no projected future. Not much room to grow. Hero has all the features this does and then some, with the exception of universal inbox and the way launcher reacts. Pulse isnt really much of a ROM, either. Its just a cool UI and a bunch of paid apps put together into a firmware.
twistedumbrella said:
The reason for the lack of ports is honestly the firmware being so tied to social aspects. All the "cool" features are in the UI with the social stuff, but the rest of the firmware... well... sucks. I ported both and got bored in a couple days. Hero has new dumps and new versions of sense and the prospect of updating to 1.6 and eventually 2.0 These are done. One dump, one version, no projected future. Not much room to grow. Hero has all the features this does and then some, with the exception of universal inbox and the way launcher reacts. Pulse isnt really much of a ROM, either. Its just a cool UI and a bunch of paid apps put together into a firmware.
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I hear ya. I just get tired of looking at the same bottom bar and out of all the times I try to ask for help, no one wants to share on how to get started making my own with my own look. I have seen a hero rom with a somewhat Pulse bottom bar and it looked killer but the slowness of the rom was not bareable.
I actually flashed the new Andriod 2.0 Eclair to my phone. It is a stripped down Rom and has nothing in it but MAN do I like the lock screen and menu play. Very nice, clean and cool. I wish I had Eclair with a MotoBlur look and feel and Hero internals. I do like Blur's social widgets. Nice!
I need to test it on my G1,
can any1 of you people with the 2.1 firmware dump please upload it somewhere so I can try something on iy?
I think I have found a way to get the G1 camera working, and I want to test it in 2.1, that's why. And I already got the trackball working on 2.0
E2K said:
I need to test it on my G1,
can any1 of you people with the 2.1 firmware dump please upload it somewhere so I can try something on iy?
I think I have found a way to get the G1 camera working, and I want to test it in 2.1, that's why. And I already got the trackball working on 2.0
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They won't, so far they only have it for hero and haven't been given the ok to release it from their sources. If their sources gave them 2.1 hero, you can trust they won't lose them by giving out leaked things prematurely
JAguirre1231 said:
They won't, so far they only have it for hero and haven't been given the ok to release it from their sources. If their sources gave them 2.1 hero, you can trust they won't lose them by giving out leaked things prematurely
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Don't worry, I hate people who have the hero and the 288MB ram and all that!
I would NEVER give those people the rom! I only want to apply my camera mod, so we can all have G1's running 2.1 WITH camera active in no time
THen upload the com or what ever and send a pm or something to the devs about your modification and stuff.
Ace42 said:
THen upload the com or what ever and send a pm or something to the devs about your modification and stuff.
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I understand, but my camera-hack is pretty great (should it work on 2.1).
I don't want any developers taking credit for my hard work. So P.M. me if you want the hack, but only if you can give me 2.1..
I hate to be the bear of bad news but I don't think any of the Dev will give out the 2.1 rom, your best bet might be to inform them about your hack .But I could be wrong keep asking see what happens.
What's to make us assume that none of the devs haven't already fixed the camera in 2.1? Why not jump in and fix the camera problems on 2.0 (which most of us already have)? If you can get to a point where you're sure it's working in 2.1 (which you don't have), you should be able to get to that same point in 2.0 (which is readily available) I'd think. Sounds like a ploy to get ahold of 2.1 to me.
actually, I did not make the camera hack myself, but it was given to me by a dev from another forum. I confirmed it was working on the G1 on firmware 2.0, although it crashes when you try to select the resolution, or when you switch to video mode.
I am sure that it would be a good trade.
Again, if anyone has 2.1, hit me up. I will livestream myself showing the 2.0 rom with the camera (partially) working. If the person with 2.1 can show me proof that he is really in possession of 2.1, then I will share the files with him. After that, I expect 2.1.
This is a fair trade, as I will give the camera files *before* I receive 2.1 so it's not a scam, in case you thought that..
E2K said:
I understand, but my camera-hack is pretty great (should it work on 2.1).
I don't want any developers taking credit for my hard work. So P.M. me if you want the hack, but only if you can give me 2.1..
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actually, I did not make the camera hack myself, but it was given to me by a dev from another forum. I confirmed it was working on the G1 on firmware 2.0, although it crashes when you try to select the resolution, or when you switch to video mode.
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LOL, so you don't want anyone else taking credit for the hack that you yourself got from someone else?!?! Please go away.
E2K said:
I understand, but my camera-hack is pretty great (should it work on 2.1).
I don't want any developers taking credit for my hard work. So P.M. me if you want the hack, but only if you can give me 2.1..
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yo e2k..who cares if someone takes credit...do you think the people @ xda care who has credit??? everyone here wants one thing...a better g1 so give it to the dev who u think is the nicest..like king or something..nd loook @ it this way either youll get jacked or youll make a friend or it just wont work...=}
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actually, I did not make the camera hack myself, but it was given to me by a dev from another forum. I confirmed it was working on the G1 on firmware 2.0, although it crashes when you try to select the resolution, or when you switch to video mode.
I am sure that it would be a good trade.
Again, if anyone has 2.1, hit me up. I will livestream myself showing the 2.0 rom with the camera (partially) working. If the person with 2.1 can show me proof that he is really in possession of 2.1, then I will share the files with him. After that, I expect 2.1.
This is a fair trade, as I will give the camera files *before* I receive 2.1 so it's not a scam, in case you thought that..
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Again I say, the only people that have 2.1 are people that have sources straight from people at htc. They will NOT give 2.1 to you for fear of losing their sources. I want it just as bad, trust me, my g1 could use some (flan?) sense. So far my dev of choice has it and has posted screenshots, he says that it is already very fast without optimization. Your best bet to get 2.1 would be to either wait for someone that has it to release it, or get it from someone at Htc
f*ck it, I got it anyway
I will fix the title.
thanks for all the input guys!
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f*ck it, I got it anyway
I will fix the title.
thanks for all the input guys!
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thats cool just remember they have hidden watermarks and code to tell who leaked the rom btw any devs want google wave i have 8 invites
wpbcubsfan said:
LOL, so you don't want anyone else taking credit for the hack that you yourself got from someone else?!?! Please go away.
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hahahaahaha. i almost died when i read that also. wow
and for real, please dont drop anything w/ it not only because we will all req it to be taken down right away but the watermarks lead back to source, which leads to firing, which leads to more fear of releasing things.
i'd be happy with a fully working 2.0... i don't quite understand why people have to be sooooo bleeding edge that they're willing to scarifice daily usability... but that's just me.
I can wait for 2.1. But I consider 2.0 more bleeding edge then 2.1. 2.1, hopefully is just bug squashing.
Google 'porting' the 2.0 navigation to 1.6 imo is saying a lot..
But i would be happy to see 2.0 on G1, maybe not so happy to have it eating up all the ram
This E2K guy is a fake! He is from the hero forum, trying to deceive a G1 dev to give him a dump. He is not a dev... his hero isn't even rooted!!!
E2K said:
I need to test it on my G1,
can any1 of you people with the 2.1 firmware dump please upload it somewhere so I can try something on iy?
I think I have found a way to get the G1 camera working, and I want to test it in 2.1, that's why. And I already got the trackball working on 2.0
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lol, Read this whole thread and I must say, tread lightly when asking for watermark Dumps!
Drop The Camera Files and I'll Tell you if there working or not.
wpbcubsfan said:
LOL, so you don't want anyone else taking credit for the hack that you yourself got from someone else?!?! Please go away.
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ROFLMAO! I was thinking the same thing...
now rebased off rvu 1.3.1 so that means 4g should be a go
I removed all HTC widgets and most HTC/sprint apps except for the needed ones people messages music etc. Plus a few I happen to like
Big thanks to Keith and gbhil over at Android central for an amazing Rom to base this off of
Also gotta thank toast maejrep and co. For root
Wipe is most likely needed haven't tried to flash yet without
and yes you will keep root if you flash this if you used toasts method haven't confirmed unrevoked
Changelog:
1.1 now based on rvu 1.3.1 com.HTC.utility no longer fcs
1.0 based of rvu 1.0 all HTC widgets/apps removed except for messages etc....
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6316939/senseless-evo-v1.1.zip
http://www.4shared.com/file/kkuR1-0O/senseless-evo-v10.html
Looks great! I will load this later!
I highly recommend getting adw launcher it'd amazing
Does anyone know where com.HTC.rosieutility is located or what on here could still be causing it to fc on boot it doesn't affect the phone at all its just annoying seeing that every reboot
A couple of questions. Will you still be rooted if you flash this rom? Does it still have the market or 4G problems of other roms.
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A couple of questions. Will you still be rooted if you flash this rom? Does it still have the market or 4G problems of other roms.
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Yup you'll still be rooted with toasts method at least never touch the unrevoked root
I have no idea about 4g I would say probably not since I didn't change anything in that regard
I'll get back to u on the market
Aw, darn. I thought this was actually an AOSP ROM. This is basically already what I've done to my stock ROM.
TheBiles said:
Aw, darn. I thought this was actually an AOSP ROM. This is basically already what I've done to my stock ROM.
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you will never get an aosp rom. 2.1 doesn't support wimax or the high video drivers. htc made the updates needed for those.
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Soo basically all I did was remove all HTC widgets and most
HTC apps from the newest Rom over on Android central by
Keith Newman so major thanks goes to him
Also gotta thank toast maejrep and co. For root
and finally I highly recommend wiping everything before you flash this...
and yes you will keep root if you flash this if you used toasts method haven't confirmed unrevoked
http://www.4shared.com/file/kkuR1-0O/senseless-evo-v10.html
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no homo but i love you OP. i've been waiting for this.
TheBiles said:
Aw, darn. I thought this was actually an AOSP ROM. This is basically already what I've done to my stock ROM.
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Ya sry about that but to be honest I like the little HTC touches here and there it actually tends to complement vanilla more then you might realize
bcnice20 said:
Ya sry about that but to be honest I like the little HTC touches here and there it actually tends to complement vanilla more then you might realize
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by you saying this, does this mean some htc sense is still in this rom? i have a nexus one and i hate sense altogether, i'm looking for a rom that has no htc sense whatsoever.
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no homo but i love you OP. i've been waiting for this.
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WOW. almost 300 posts and you were WAITING for someone to rm a few apk's and then add one or 2? NO offense to you and i appreciate op just going thru the effort to share and ul, WE should all appreciate any contribution and if you have a problem with it just dont comment or use it. Just dont understand why you wouldnt just take 10 minutes and do it yourself. It takes ops longer cus hes also got wait for it to upload so he can share. This is not a crack and i am not a child. This is just my 2cents and what i thought while reading this comment.
bcnice20 said:
Ya sry about that but to be honest I like the little HTC touches here and there it actually tends to complement vanilla more then you might realize
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Good job. Thanks for the speedy contribution towards our shiny new evo rom collection I remember liking sense and aosp so i like both and i always wanted sense to run right. That was everyones complaint with sense. Well thats not an issue anymore. I thought i would be all on it, like with my hero w/o thinking.....well as soon as i got my evo i forgot all that i learned about root and why to do it....JK but i am very satisfied with it and i will wait until i can access recovery and rw to system from device before i do. I spent the whole time i had my hero trying to make it into a device like this.....well now i have it Gimme a week and i think ill go to work.......
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you will never get an aosp rom. 2.1 doesn't support wimax or the high video drivers. htc made the updates needed for those.
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Those two things I can live without. Some devs said there were going to port an AOSP 2.1 ROM, but they haven't posted updates.
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by you saying this, does this mean some htc sense is still in this rom? i have a nexus one and i hate sense altogether, i'm looking for a rom that has no htc sense whatsoever.
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This is just the stock ROM with Sprint apps, HTC widgets, and the Sense launcher removed. It is still loaded with Sense.
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Those two things I can live without. Some devs said there were going to port an AOSP 2.1 ROM, but they haven't posted updates.
This is just the stock ROM with Sprint apps, HTC widgets, and the Sense launcher removed. It is still loaded with Sense.
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nevermind, i thought htc sense was fully removed, not just a few apks
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WOW. almost 300 posts and you were WAITING for someone to rm a few apk's and then add one or 2? NO offense to you and i appreciate op just going thru the effort to share and ul, WE should all appreciate any contribution and if you have a problem with it just dont comment or use it. Just dont understand why you wouldnt just take 10 minutes and do it yourself. It takes ops longer cus hes also got wait for it to upload so he can share. This is not a crack and i am not a child. This is just my 2cents and what i thought while reading this comment.
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as you can see i thougth sense was removed completely and if you think you can do that by just removing a few apks show me. also even if i had 1000 post, this could be my very 1st android phone and those 1000 posts wouldn't mean a damn thing, just my 2cents, if you don't have anything helpful to say, shut up.
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by you saying this, does this mean some htc sense is still in this rom? i have a nexus one and i hate sense altogether, i'm looking for a rom that has no htc sense whatsoever.
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Until we have fully functional aosp/froyo/2.2 you wont have a rom that will even work without a bunch of sense remnants wasting space on your internal storage and increasing rom size.HTC is a shiny ui htc used to lure in all the apple morons(no offense i used to have an iphone before my hero). and since they made the devices, they're plaguing software/htc sense is an integral part of the ruu they put together. This is the reason everyone always wants a non-sense rom or VANILLA. We will not have full function vanilla until toast or someone else here compiles an0ther makeshift kernel, or lastly when htc releases the source so that we can compile a kernel with the right device drivers, to give us a full function rom. It would be to say the least, very very very hard to just compile the right drivers for the htc device hardware, thus all the aosp/froyo with certain features such as cam, or 4G missing.......hope this helps you und3rstand what you are looking for a little bit more clearly. In theory, YOU or I could create the source code for the kernel and drivers. Is that going to HAPPEN?????????????????? Probably not. Dont worry though, we have toast, so we happen to have a head start in the race.....
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Until we have fully functional aosp/froyo/2.2 you wont have a rom that will even work without a bunch of sense remnants wasting space on your internal storage and increasing rom size.HTC is a shiny ui htc used to lure in all the apple morons(no offense i used to have an iphone before my hero). and since they made the devices, they're plaguing software/htc sense is an integral part of the ruu they put together. This is the reason everyone always wants a non-sense rom or VANILLA. We will not have full function vanilla until toast or someone else here compiles an0ther makeshift kernel, or lastly when htc releases the source so that we can compile a kernel with the right device drivers, to give us a full function rom. It would be to say the least, very very very hard to just compile the right drivers for the htc device hardware, thus all the aosp/froyo with certain features such as cam, or 4G missing.......hope this helps you und3rstand what you are looking for a little bit more clearly. In theory, YOU or I could create the source code for the kernel and drivers. Is that going to HAPPEN?????????????????? Probably not. Dont worry though, we have toast, so we happen to have a head start in the race.....
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Could you PLEASE not use that font color? With sugar on top?
Rosies gone and most of the apps that where randomly coming on and wasting mem/batt. Are gone this is all I'm worried and it runs nice as **** I mean has anybody that had something bad to say even try it
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as you can see i thougth sense was removed completely and if you think you can do that by just removing a few apks show me. also even if i had 1000 post, this could be my very 1st android phone and those 1000 posts wouldn't mean a damn thing, just my 2cents, if you don't have anything helpful to say, shut up.
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search my name in xda search youll find PLENTY of inter3sting things ive said. Do your own homework before instulting me or anyone else please.I meant neither of you any disrespect. I was explaining myself a little better and when i put up the 2nd post i saw this. This is an open forum right? well thats my opinion and some info. If you dl'd the rom you would see all the sense remnants yourself, resulting in less thread clutter,simultaneously answering your own question. I was trying to inform you in my second post. And please do not disrespect me by asking me to shut up. I do not disrespect anyone here on xda nor will i ever, and i expect the same treatment in return. I am here to help,learn,and contribute. Sorry you took offense. I guess i just dont ask others for answers that are readily available to myself. I would apologize but you offended me. please do not reply here again, as your response will be ignored by me. apologies to readers for momentary thread jack.......now, back to topic.....
bcnice20 said:
Rosies gone and most of the apps that where randomly coming on and wasting mem/batt. Are gone this is all I'm worried and it runs nice as **** I mean has anybody that had something bad to say even try it
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I noticed what you did when i looked. Just wondering, were you unhappy with your evo when you got it? or did you just make a new rom to give everyone another choice of rom? or maybe even your personal, like i do sometimes? Just curious.....
@ops. I never spoke ill of your work, jic you took it that way, im not that guy. I appreciate any contributions to the community and have spent months of my own time staying up finishing up things ive been working to complete my self in order to ul and share with the community. Needless to say, I KNOW WHERE YOURE COMING FROM. When i can give us a new choice of rom or theme i too will begin work.....
Hey guys,
since we know that full flash 10.1 won't work on our devices (or its an disproportionate act to port it, because its not open source and due to the fact that flash 10.1 is not meant g1's processor).
But what about flash lite (which we know is working on g1 from the sense ROMs)? I read that the froyo browser does accept plugins (well he accepts the flash 10.1 on capable phones).
So did someone tried to port it? I know this is not the major thing on froyo, its hard enough to get the rest working properly (and i really thank those devs for spending so much time on it!!!). Many people would love to see at least flash lite on our devices. And in my humble opinion little flash animations worked fine for me on the sense roms with flash lite.
I tried to install the flash lite apk on the froyo roms availlable ... but it returned only fc's for me in browser. By now i am not running froyo but i will put some rom on and try to get a logcat on it.
Greetings
Crazy Idea: Why not make a port of an open source flashplayer (like lightspark) to ARM hardware?
[Yes, I know thats probably somewhere between inconveniant and impossible, but hey, it's a think tank ]
mblaster said:
Crazy Idea: Why not make a port of an open source flashplayer (like lightspark) to ARM hardware?
[Yes, I know thats probably somewhere between inconveniant and impossible, but hey, it's a think tank ]
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MUCH MUCH BETTER idea. Certainly not impossible. In fact VERY POSSIBLE.
There are a few issues to work through in it though, certain dependencies on things like PULSEAUDIO, which we don't have on android (but would be nice if we did...)
There are actually THREE open source flash projects to work from.... gnash, swfdec, and lightspark. The first two are based on reverse engineering and tend to work. lightspark is from SPEC, is much NEWER, and really doesn't work yet. Lightspark is the best FOUNDATION, but is behind in FUNCTION.
Note: flash is a bad idea no matter how you look at it. You don't need it, it doesn't do anything USEFUL, I suggest just ignoring it. PURIFY! Let flash DIE!
lbcoder said:
PURIFY! Let flash DIE!
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Yeah, HTML5 FTW!
Now that iCrap officially banned flash many sites will at least alternatively offer html5 support, because otherwise the iPhonies cry.
Most of the flash content is unwanted commercials anyway. I would hate going on some site and swoop away 5MB of my data plan (which gets downgraded to gprs speed if I get above 200MB/month) with some nagging commercial video... (€: OK, this could also happen with html5... would hate it anyway)
well i know that if flash lite could be rid of its dependency on sense it would work. it has the correct settings to work . it has 2 different ways to enable flash while the flash 10.1 has only one of those. you would have to check the 2.1 port of 10.1 to understand what im talking bout. it might also need to be built on 2.1 or 2.2.
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well i know that if flash lite could be rid of its dependency on sense it would work. it has the correct settings to work . it has 2 different ways to enable flash while the flash 10.1 has only one of those. you would have to check the 2.1 port of 10.1 to understand what im talking bout. it might also need to be built on 2.1 or 2.2.
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youre right ^^ the dependency of sense is the point which prevents flash for working on froyo out of the box in my opinion. I was thinking the problem of the non-sense (not nonsense lol) browser was, that it wasnt capable to use plugins. But it looks like that the whole sense framework has something to do with flash working on sense roms. Maybe some dev could take hand on that flash lite and compare it to how the flash 10.1 plugin interacts with froyo and the browser.
I aggree with all of you that flash might die and that there are better possiblities to create an active web ... but its a fact that its heavily used in the web (so with a dataplan youre not forced to use flash ... its just that i hear many ppl wanting it). I dont wanna start a discussion about usability of flash -this is just about how to port it to froyo on g1 for ppl who like to see it
Well from the port thread over in the ego forum they found that both versions of flash have a similar plugin method for the browser. I will have to find it later.
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wizern23 said:
Well from the port thread over in the ego forum they found that both versions of flash have a similar plugin method for the browser. I will have to find it later.
Sent from my HTC Magic using XDA App
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Sounds interesting! I searched the thread but didn find it. If the method of linking the plugin to the froyo browser was similiar there might be a possibility to use the flash lite without the sense framework i am curious to read that
Has anybody tried to use not just only the flash.apk but also the libs that come in sense 2.1 roms?
because missing libs can well be the cause of force closes...
alternatively we can wait until froyo comes out for sense phones like the hero...
There was another [THINK TANK] for this.... it died. Hopefully this will, too.
I tried modifying an APK to do this. I put the flash lite plugin in the flash APK and flashed on CM6.... Didn't work, their was no force closes, it did not even show up as a plugin.
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There was another [THINK TANK] for this.... it died. Hopefully this will, too.
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the other think tank was on full flash/flash 10.1 for eclair ... this is / was impossible and not a very clever idea.
This is about porting flash lite which we know from sense roms works on our devices.
So thanks for youre lack of interest and your useless post ^^ ... so dont flame
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I tried modifying an APK to do this. I put the flash lite plugin in the flash APK and flashed on CM6.... Didn't work, their was no force closes, it did not even show up as a plugin.
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that was what i experienced :/ maybe it has something to do with the libs and its not just enough that the froyo browser does takte plugins
didnt HTC just open a bunch of the Sence code?
i remember seeing a tweat about it... i think (maybe they opened something else?)
ill see if i can find the post and report back.
playingdoh said:
didnt HTC just open a bunch of the Sence code?
i remember seeing a tweat about it... i think (maybe they opened something else?)
ill see if i can find the post and report back.
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Well, first it's called Sense. Second, it's just the kernel source for some devices..
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the other think tank was on full flash/flash 10.1 for eclair ... this is / was impossible and not a very clever idea.
This is about porting flash lite which we know from sense roms works on our devices.
So thanks for youre lack of interest and your useless post ^^ ... so dont flame
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So sorry I almost came in the way of you and your porn.
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So sorry I almost came in the way of you and your porn.
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What were you thinking, I mean, everyone knows Android phones are for porn.
usually i just watch and read, but when a so called senior member has nothing usefull to say but flaming someone who has an idea its pretty much pathetic. and where is the report post to moderator.
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usually i just watch and read, but when a so called senior member has nothing usefull to say but flaming someone who has an idea its pretty much pathetic. and where is the report post to moderator.
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Then how about you go back to just lurking before opening your mouth about something you clearly have no idea about? The fact that FLASH SUCKS and should have been gone a LONG time ago but it's still around is the only pathetic thing here. That's what I originally said, and that's what I'm saying now. Also, I'm sure most people will have no interest in this and it's most likely going to fail. Now, let those balls drop and man the hell up.
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FLASH SUCKS and should have been gone a LONG time ago
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I don't know, flash videos and partially flash based sites seem like a good enough reason to try. Especially for porn. (You know, 'cause android phones are for porn.)
Tony_SpaZ said:
I don't know, flash videos and partially flash based sites seem like a good enough reason to try. Especially for porn. (You know, 'cause android phones are for porn.)
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Definitely. Flash is very much the standard for now, and I don't see that changing for some time. HTML5 is great for very basic video playing, but it gets hard to do things dynamically with it. Personally, I've been wishing I could watch the Daily Show on my phone.
Does anybody know of any add-on for a 2.3.4/3.0 ROM (any will do) to provide the "tweaks" option to the ROM? It'd be the same as 2.3.5/3.5 add-on that CdTDroiD made for his ROM, but functional for 2.3.4 instead.
Or if nobody knows of a patch for that anywhere, would anybody know how to otherwise access those options, or what changes would have to be made to make the one I linked to properly compatible with 2.3.4? I just want to find some way to have things like the battery icon with percentage *next* to it, and the rest of the tweaks that affect the icons up there. Stuff that can't be done with the UOT it seems.
I assume the views and silence means nobody has any idea for an answer...?
Seriously, I hate to "bump" my question, but if there really is nothing out there (and no information on how to do it), can somebody at least say so?
I can't imagine I'm the only person who wants this, and Sense 3.0 is still the most solid solution for the Sensation. And with how crazy everybody went over getting the "romanbb tweaks", I'm surprised there isn't *anything* on how to integrate them ourselves into a ROM.
Hay buddy Yh there is a few tweeks but there not perfect here ya go
http://db.tt/oNiXWyxl
By romman all credit to him this was out about 3 onths ago very outdated
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Seriously, I hate to "bump" my question, but if there really is nothing out there (and no information on how to do it), can somebody at least say so?
I can't imagine I'm the only person who wants this, and Sense 3.0 is still the most solid solution for the Sensation. And with how crazy everybody went over getting the "romanbb tweaks", I'm surprised there isn't *anything* on how to integrate them ourselves into a ROM.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1380172&highlight=sense+3.0+skins
RomanBB's Bulletproof Rom w/tweaks (Sense 3.0).....
@daddyspud: Thank you very much! Is that originally for the Pyramid3D ROM? Somehow I never saw that (it's certainly not included in the OP of that ROM's thread), but funny enough, that's the ROM I'm using currently. Thanks again though, this sounds like exactly what I need.
@master1454: I saw that thread, but the only downside was that I have no idea how to extract what I need from what's in there. Wasn't sure if the files were the same ones used in Sense 3.5, and I was worried about taking the chance without some feedback on how to do it.
Yh I've had that file for a while now it was done for cdtdroid for tempury till he sorted out his own tweaks and I just keeps files u never know when u need them lol it works with any xe / sensation 3.0 Rom from what I'm aware
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@daddyspud: Thank you very much! Is that originally for the Pyramid3D ROM? Somehow I never saw that (it's certainly not included in the OP of that ROM's thread), but funny enough, that's the ROM I'm using currently. Thanks again though, this sounds like exactly what I need.
@master1454: I saw that thread, but the only downside was that I have no idea how to extract what I need from what's in there. Wasn't sure if the files were the same ones used in Sense 3.5, and I was worried about taking the chance without some feedback on how to do it.
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Can someone post here updated tweaks please?
Anyone Is it possible ripp of from ROM? If somebody knows how please tell me RCmix or Romanbb