Hey guys,
since we know that full flash 10.1 won't work on our devices (or its an disproportionate act to port it, because its not open source and due to the fact that flash 10.1 is not meant g1's processor).
But what about flash lite (which we know is working on g1 from the sense ROMs)? I read that the froyo browser does accept plugins (well he accepts the flash 10.1 on capable phones).
So did someone tried to port it? I know this is not the major thing on froyo, its hard enough to get the rest working properly (and i really thank those devs for spending so much time on it!!!). Many people would love to see at least flash lite on our devices. And in my humble opinion little flash animations worked fine for me on the sense roms with flash lite.
I tried to install the flash lite apk on the froyo roms availlable ... but it returned only fc's for me in browser. By now i am not running froyo but i will put some rom on and try to get a logcat on it.
Greetings
Crazy Idea: Why not make a port of an open source flashplayer (like lightspark) to ARM hardware?
[Yes, I know thats probably somewhere between inconveniant and impossible, but hey, it's a think tank ]
mblaster said:
Crazy Idea: Why not make a port of an open source flashplayer (like lightspark) to ARM hardware?
[Yes, I know thats probably somewhere between inconveniant and impossible, but hey, it's a think tank ]
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MUCH MUCH BETTER idea. Certainly not impossible. In fact VERY POSSIBLE.
There are a few issues to work through in it though, certain dependencies on things like PULSEAUDIO, which we don't have on android (but would be nice if we did...)
There are actually THREE open source flash projects to work from.... gnash, swfdec, and lightspark. The first two are based on reverse engineering and tend to work. lightspark is from SPEC, is much NEWER, and really doesn't work yet. Lightspark is the best FOUNDATION, but is behind in FUNCTION.
Note: flash is a bad idea no matter how you look at it. You don't need it, it doesn't do anything USEFUL, I suggest just ignoring it. PURIFY! Let flash DIE!
lbcoder said:
PURIFY! Let flash DIE!
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Yeah, HTML5 FTW!
Now that iCrap officially banned flash many sites will at least alternatively offer html5 support, because otherwise the iPhonies cry.
Most of the flash content is unwanted commercials anyway. I would hate going on some site and swoop away 5MB of my data plan (which gets downgraded to gprs speed if I get above 200MB/month) with some nagging commercial video... (€: OK, this could also happen with html5... would hate it anyway)
well i know that if flash lite could be rid of its dependency on sense it would work. it has the correct settings to work . it has 2 different ways to enable flash while the flash 10.1 has only one of those. you would have to check the 2.1 port of 10.1 to understand what im talking bout. it might also need to be built on 2.1 or 2.2.
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well i know that if flash lite could be rid of its dependency on sense it would work. it has the correct settings to work . it has 2 different ways to enable flash while the flash 10.1 has only one of those. you would have to check the 2.1 port of 10.1 to understand what im talking bout. it might also need to be built on 2.1 or 2.2.
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youre right ^^ the dependency of sense is the point which prevents flash for working on froyo out of the box in my opinion. I was thinking the problem of the non-sense (not nonsense lol) browser was, that it wasnt capable to use plugins. But it looks like that the whole sense framework has something to do with flash working on sense roms. Maybe some dev could take hand on that flash lite and compare it to how the flash 10.1 plugin interacts with froyo and the browser.
I aggree with all of you that flash might die and that there are better possiblities to create an active web ... but its a fact that its heavily used in the web (so with a dataplan youre not forced to use flash ... its just that i hear many ppl wanting it). I dont wanna start a discussion about usability of flash -this is just about how to port it to froyo on g1 for ppl who like to see it
Well from the port thread over in the ego forum they found that both versions of flash have a similar plugin method for the browser. I will have to find it later.
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wizern23 said:
Well from the port thread over in the ego forum they found that both versions of flash have a similar plugin method for the browser. I will have to find it later.
Sent from my HTC Magic using XDA App
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Sounds interesting! I searched the thread but didn find it. If the method of linking the plugin to the froyo browser was similiar there might be a possibility to use the flash lite without the sense framework i am curious to read that
Has anybody tried to use not just only the flash.apk but also the libs that come in sense 2.1 roms?
because missing libs can well be the cause of force closes...
alternatively we can wait until froyo comes out for sense phones like the hero...
There was another [THINK TANK] for this.... it died. Hopefully this will, too.
I tried modifying an APK to do this. I put the flash lite plugin in the flash APK and flashed on CM6.... Didn't work, their was no force closes, it did not even show up as a plugin.
r3s-rt said:
There was another [THINK TANK] for this.... it died. Hopefully this will, too.
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the other think tank was on full flash/flash 10.1 for eclair ... this is / was impossible and not a very clever idea.
This is about porting flash lite which we know from sense roms works on our devices.
So thanks for youre lack of interest and your useless post ^^ ... so dont flame
sidroc said:
I tried modifying an APK to do this. I put the flash lite plugin in the flash APK and flashed on CM6.... Didn't work, their was no force closes, it did not even show up as a plugin.
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that was what i experienced :/ maybe it has something to do with the libs and its not just enough that the froyo browser does takte plugins
didnt HTC just open a bunch of the Sence code?
i remember seeing a tweat about it... i think (maybe they opened something else?)
ill see if i can find the post and report back.
playingdoh said:
didnt HTC just open a bunch of the Sence code?
i remember seeing a tweat about it... i think (maybe they opened something else?)
ill see if i can find the post and report back.
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Well, first it's called Sense. Second, it's just the kernel source for some devices..
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the other think tank was on full flash/flash 10.1 for eclair ... this is / was impossible and not a very clever idea.
This is about porting flash lite which we know from sense roms works on our devices.
So thanks for youre lack of interest and your useless post ^^ ... so dont flame
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So sorry I almost came in the way of you and your porn.
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So sorry I almost came in the way of you and your porn.
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What were you thinking, I mean, everyone knows Android phones are for porn.
usually i just watch and read, but when a so called senior member has nothing usefull to say but flaming someone who has an idea its pretty much pathetic. and where is the report post to moderator.
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usually i just watch and read, but when a so called senior member has nothing usefull to say but flaming someone who has an idea its pretty much pathetic. and where is the report post to moderator.
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Then how about you go back to just lurking before opening your mouth about something you clearly have no idea about? The fact that FLASH SUCKS and should have been gone a LONG time ago but it's still around is the only pathetic thing here. That's what I originally said, and that's what I'm saying now. Also, I'm sure most people will have no interest in this and it's most likely going to fail. Now, let those balls drop and man the hell up.
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FLASH SUCKS and should have been gone a LONG time ago
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I don't know, flash videos and partially flash based sites seem like a good enough reason to try. Especially for porn. (You know, 'cause android phones are for porn.)
Tony_SpaZ said:
I don't know, flash videos and partially flash based sites seem like a good enough reason to try. Especially for porn. (You know, 'cause android phones are for porn.)
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Definitely. Flash is very much the standard for now, and I don't see that changing for some time. HTML5 is great for very basic video playing, but it gets hard to do things dynamically with it. Personally, I've been wishing I could watch the Daily Show on my phone.
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no hope
sorry for every one...
Dang, those look pretty special.. I wouldnt want to risk bricking one trying to upgrade the version of android; they might not even be compatible at all.
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Dang, those look pretty special.. I wouldnt want to risk bricking one trying to upgrade the version of android; they might not even be compatible at all.
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HaHa,you neednt to worry about that,cause the system of this handset is much older than ones available for G1,the machine is a very very old man ^_^，using a very very old version of Android.
SO NO NEED TO TAKE THE RISK..
Im not that technical when it comes to this, but can the hardware even handle Android?
Forget upgrading them,DUMP THEM. I'd like to see how well the "proto-android" firmware would work on the g1.....once ported of course. And where did you find these? I'd like to try to get my hands on one.
I'm not sure if these can even handle full-blown android - they have 200mhz processors for crying out loud! That said, demos show they are blazing fast (even faster than ours around the ui!) but since these were never put into full production, I doubt you can update it easily...
Good to see you have found 2 gems there... thinking of selling them? =P
dam those are some great prototype android devices, you must keep one stock default, very rare, quite valuable i think. especially the white one.
Woha, prototype devices!
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Forget upgrading them,DUMP THEM. I'd like to see how well the "proto-android" firmware would work on the g1.....once ported of course. And where did you find these? I'd like to try to get my hands on one.
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A friend give these to me
HaHa they are using a OS based on a very early SDK,I do have the img of the system,just dont know how to flash it because the fastboot and recovery is really different from G1 or G2,to avoid brick it,I would like to find some useful guide...
thx any way....
NguyenHuu said:
dam those are some great prototype android devices, you must keep one stock default, very rare, quite valuable i think. especially the white one.
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HaHa,I dicide to use them for my convenience,they are so special~~~~mmmm
cadetnudt said:
A friend give these to me
HaHa they are using a OS based on a very early SDK,I do have the img of the system,just dont know how to flash it because the fastboot and recovery is really different from G1 or G2,to avoid brick it,I would like to find some useful guide...
thx any way....
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Can you provide any pics of the recovery menus? If we are able to dump,we may be able to flash....but I heard these have lower specs than the g1.....so it wouldn't be practical to flash g1 firmware onto these protypes....
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Can you provide any pics of the recovery menus? If we are able to dump,we may be able to flash....but I heard these have lower specs than the g1.....so it wouldn't be practical to flash g1 firmware onto these protypes....
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MMM~~~I will post some pics later.
What I want isnt flashing G1's ROM in onto them but ROMs from themselves and moded to fix the wlan's problem,cause their wifi cannot work properly yet.
the problem is that there's no source, so we can't really backport a wifi driver for the older kernel (does it even have wifi radio?)
For those who want with old android builds (don't know why though) go here:
http://developer.android.com/sdk/older_releases.html
download the older sdks (betas and pre-betas), they all come with emulators, you should be able to (using their tools folder) dump the system from them (or unyaff's the system included). Again there's really not much there
i doubt that you will be able to flash anything from g1 on this phone, as its screen obviously is a different res
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the problem is that there's no source, so we can't really backport a wifi driver for the older kernel (does it even have wifi radio?)
For those who want with old android builds (don't know why though) go here:
http://developer.android.com/sdk/older_releases.html
download the older sdks (betas and pre-betas), they all come with emulators, you should be able to (using their tools folder) dump the system from them (or unyaff's the system included). Again there's really not much there
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My friend said that he had one with wifi，can I dump something from it and push it to my EXCA300？
And what steps should I take？
The URL you mentioned,which I had explored early in the morning,includes bulks of SDKs,and through the wiki I have posted before,I knew some SDKs available for EXCA300 then downloaded some versions.They are:
android-sdk_m5-rc15_windows.zip
android-sdk_m5-rc14_windows.zip
android_sdk_windows_m3-rc22a.zip
android_sdk_windows_m3-rc37a.zip
I need more information about the recovery and HBOOT...
Thanks a lot for your warm advice！
Nice. some rare speciments you have there.
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very rare, quite valuable i think. especially the white one.
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Not really. Stanford SUSE has a ton of these. Supposedly bought them in bulk on the cheap. I had a hold of one for a while a few months ago trying to see if it would be worth the time to get production Android (then 1.1) onto it. It was pretty much a lost cause without support from HTC.
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Not really. Stanford SUSE has a ton of these. Supposedly bought them in bulk on the cheap. I had a hold of one for a while a few months ago trying to see if it would be worth the time to get production Android (then 1.1) onto it. It was pretty much a lost cause without support from HTC.
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You have one？
Could you tell me the details about yours?
Sorry for the OT: but they are greeeeat! XD
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Sorry for the OT: but they are greeeeat! XD
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Root manager is your app?
Here is my best adoration....
I had a hard time figuring this one out. But now that I did I want to share. I know, I know, most of you knew this already. Anyways, for the ones who didnt, it only works with default browser. It does not work with Dophin Browser (or probably any other browser.
Im using DC v1. Im watching ESPN Live for free (Over 3G). Yeeehaaaa.(I guess Texas has influenced me...)
does this site load up for you perfect http://www.streetfire.net/ when i try viewing it looks ok, but then click on a video and it takes a crap. im on 2.0b
We Got It....
I think were doing pretty good, considering all the regular heros will never have flash 10.1. THANKS DEVS
Hey, try one of the new roms, they are much improved from the one you are using....
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does this site load up for you perfect http://www.streetfire.net/ when i try viewing it looks ok, but then click on a video and it takes a crap. im on 2.0b
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Same thing here. Its not perfect...
yea i had a customer come in asking about the site,(non-rooted hero) and i took a look at it on mine and the main page loads up nice. then click on a video and then it stalls out oh well =/.
Does anyone know the reason why all third party browsers are not able to display Flash content? (using either Lite or 10.1)
Is it some licensing issue that the developers of the other apps don't want to get into with Adobe?
Flash works now.
Just installed flash 10.2 and now it is played in Dolphin HD 4.5.
Derek
Umm am I missing something or is their a reason this post involving Flash is in the HeroC forum when we will never have any sort of stable Flash available for our phones???
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Umm am I missing something or is their a reason this post involving Flash is in the HeroC forum when we will never have any sort of stable Flash available for our phones???
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I was wondering the same thing.
Confused?
Can someone please explain what the heck is going on here...are you guys talking about FlashLite? If I missed something than please set me straight but there is no such thing as true Flash 10.x for the Hero-C... If this has been figured out then I will be excited but if not please change your heading before this thread blows up.
It's a year-old thread. Let it die.
now rebased off rvu 1.3.1 so that means 4g should be a go
I removed all HTC widgets and most HTC/sprint apps except for the needed ones people messages music etc. Plus a few I happen to like
Big thanks to Keith and gbhil over at Android central for an amazing Rom to base this off of
Also gotta thank toast maejrep and co. For root
Wipe is most likely needed haven't tried to flash yet without
and yes you will keep root if you flash this if you used toasts method haven't confirmed unrevoked
Changelog:
1.1 now based on rvu 1.3.1 com.HTC.utility no longer fcs
1.0 based of rvu 1.0 all HTC widgets/apps removed except for messages etc....
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6316939/senseless-evo-v1.1.zip
http://www.4shared.com/file/kkuR1-0O/senseless-evo-v10.html
Looks great! I will load this later!
I highly recommend getting adw launcher it'd amazing
Does anyone know where com.HTC.rosieutility is located or what on here could still be causing it to fc on boot it doesn't affect the phone at all its just annoying seeing that every reboot
A couple of questions. Will you still be rooted if you flash this rom? Does it still have the market or 4G problems of other roms.
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A couple of questions. Will you still be rooted if you flash this rom? Does it still have the market or 4G problems of other roms.
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Yup you'll still be rooted with toasts method at least never touch the unrevoked root
I have no idea about 4g I would say probably not since I didn't change anything in that regard
I'll get back to u on the market
Aw, darn. I thought this was actually an AOSP ROM. This is basically already what I've done to my stock ROM.
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Aw, darn. I thought this was actually an AOSP ROM. This is basically already what I've done to my stock ROM.
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you will never get an aosp rom. 2.1 doesn't support wimax or the high video drivers. htc made the updates needed for those.
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Soo basically all I did was remove all HTC widgets and most
HTC apps from the newest Rom over on Android central by
Keith Newman so major thanks goes to him
Also gotta thank toast maejrep and co. For root
and finally I highly recommend wiping everything before you flash this...
and yes you will keep root if you flash this if you used toasts method haven't confirmed unrevoked
http://www.4shared.com/file/kkuR1-0O/senseless-evo-v10.html
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no homo but i love you OP. i've been waiting for this.
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Aw, darn. I thought this was actually an AOSP ROM. This is basically already what I've done to my stock ROM.
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Ya sry about that but to be honest I like the little HTC touches here and there it actually tends to complement vanilla more then you might realize
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Ya sry about that but to be honest I like the little HTC touches here and there it actually tends to complement vanilla more then you might realize
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by you saying this, does this mean some htc sense is still in this rom? i have a nexus one and i hate sense altogether, i'm looking for a rom that has no htc sense whatsoever.
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no homo but i love you OP. i've been waiting for this.
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WOW. almost 300 posts and you were WAITING for someone to rm a few apk's and then add one or 2? NO offense to you and i appreciate op just going thru the effort to share and ul, WE should all appreciate any contribution and if you have a problem with it just dont comment or use it. Just dont understand why you wouldnt just take 10 minutes and do it yourself. It takes ops longer cus hes also got wait for it to upload so he can share. This is not a crack and i am not a child. This is just my 2cents and what i thought while reading this comment.
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Ya sry about that but to be honest I like the little HTC touches here and there it actually tends to complement vanilla more then you might realize
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Good job. Thanks for the speedy contribution towards our shiny new evo rom collection I remember liking sense and aosp so i like both and i always wanted sense to run right. That was everyones complaint with sense. Well thats not an issue anymore. I thought i would be all on it, like with my hero w/o thinking.....well as soon as i got my evo i forgot all that i learned about root and why to do it....JK but i am very satisfied with it and i will wait until i can access recovery and rw to system from device before i do. I spent the whole time i had my hero trying to make it into a device like this.....well now i have it Gimme a week and i think ill go to work.......
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you will never get an aosp rom. 2.1 doesn't support wimax or the high video drivers. htc made the updates needed for those.
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Those two things I can live without. Some devs said there were going to port an AOSP 2.1 ROM, but they haven't posted updates.
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by you saying this, does this mean some htc sense is still in this rom? i have a nexus one and i hate sense altogether, i'm looking for a rom that has no htc sense whatsoever.
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This is just the stock ROM with Sprint apps, HTC widgets, and the Sense launcher removed. It is still loaded with Sense.
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Those two things I can live without. Some devs said there were going to port an AOSP 2.1 ROM, but they haven't posted updates.
This is just the stock ROM with Sprint apps, HTC widgets, and the Sense launcher removed. It is still loaded with Sense.
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nevermind, i thought htc sense was fully removed, not just a few apks
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WOW. almost 300 posts and you were WAITING for someone to rm a few apk's and then add one or 2? NO offense to you and i appreciate op just going thru the effort to share and ul, WE should all appreciate any contribution and if you have a problem with it just dont comment or use it. Just dont understand why you wouldnt just take 10 minutes and do it yourself. It takes ops longer cus hes also got wait for it to upload so he can share. This is not a crack and i am not a child. This is just my 2cents and what i thought while reading this comment.
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as you can see i thougth sense was removed completely and if you think you can do that by just removing a few apks show me. also even if i had 1000 post, this could be my very 1st android phone and those 1000 posts wouldn't mean a damn thing, just my 2cents, if you don't have anything helpful to say, shut up.
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by you saying this, does this mean some htc sense is still in this rom? i have a nexus one and i hate sense altogether, i'm looking for a rom that has no htc sense whatsoever.
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Until we have fully functional aosp/froyo/2.2 you wont have a rom that will even work without a bunch of sense remnants wasting space on your internal storage and increasing rom size.HTC is a shiny ui htc used to lure in all the apple morons(no offense i used to have an iphone before my hero). and since they made the devices, they're plaguing software/htc sense is an integral part of the ruu they put together. This is the reason everyone always wants a non-sense rom or VANILLA. We will not have full function vanilla until toast or someone else here compiles an0ther makeshift kernel, or lastly when htc releases the source so that we can compile a kernel with the right device drivers, to give us a full function rom. It would be to say the least, very very very hard to just compile the right drivers for the htc device hardware, thus all the aosp/froyo with certain features such as cam, or 4G missing.......hope this helps you und3rstand what you are looking for a little bit more clearly. In theory, YOU or I could create the source code for the kernel and drivers. Is that going to HAPPEN?????????????????? Probably not. Dont worry though, we have toast, so we happen to have a head start in the race.....
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Until we have fully functional aosp/froyo/2.2 you wont have a rom that will even work without a bunch of sense remnants wasting space on your internal storage and increasing rom size.HTC is a shiny ui htc used to lure in all the apple morons(no offense i used to have an iphone before my hero). and since they made the devices, they're plaguing software/htc sense is an integral part of the ruu they put together. This is the reason everyone always wants a non-sense rom or VANILLA. We will not have full function vanilla until toast or someone else here compiles an0ther makeshift kernel, or lastly when htc releases the source so that we can compile a kernel with the right device drivers, to give us a full function rom. It would be to say the least, very very very hard to just compile the right drivers for the htc device hardware, thus all the aosp/froyo with certain features such as cam, or 4G missing.......hope this helps you und3rstand what you are looking for a little bit more clearly. In theory, YOU or I could create the source code for the kernel and drivers. Is that going to HAPPEN?????????????????? Probably not. Dont worry though, we have toast, so we happen to have a head start in the race.....
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Could you PLEASE not use that font color? With sugar on top?
Rosies gone and most of the apps that where randomly coming on and wasting mem/batt. Are gone this is all I'm worried and it runs nice as **** I mean has anybody that had something bad to say even try it
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as you can see i thougth sense was removed completely and if you think you can do that by just removing a few apks show me. also even if i had 1000 post, this could be my very 1st android phone and those 1000 posts wouldn't mean a damn thing, just my 2cents, if you don't have anything helpful to say, shut up.
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search my name in xda search youll find PLENTY of inter3sting things ive said. Do your own homework before instulting me or anyone else please.I meant neither of you any disrespect. I was explaining myself a little better and when i put up the 2nd post i saw this. This is an open forum right? well thats my opinion and some info. If you dl'd the rom you would see all the sense remnants yourself, resulting in less thread clutter,simultaneously answering your own question. I was trying to inform you in my second post. And please do not disrespect me by asking me to shut up. I do not disrespect anyone here on xda nor will i ever, and i expect the same treatment in return. I am here to help,learn,and contribute. Sorry you took offense. I guess i just dont ask others for answers that are readily available to myself. I would apologize but you offended me. please do not reply here again, as your response will be ignored by me. apologies to readers for momentary thread jack.......now, back to topic.....
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Rosies gone and most of the apps that where randomly coming on and wasting mem/batt. Are gone this is all I'm worried and it runs nice as **** I mean has anybody that had something bad to say even try it
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I noticed what you did when i looked. Just wondering, were you unhappy with your evo when you got it? or did you just make a new rom to give everyone another choice of rom? or maybe even your personal, like i do sometimes? Just curious.....
@ops. I never spoke ill of your work, jic you took it that way, im not that guy. I appreciate any contributions to the community and have spent months of my own time staying up finishing up things ive been working to complete my self in order to ul and share with the community. Needless to say, I KNOW WHERE YOURE COMING FROM. When i can give us a new choice of rom or theme i too will begin work.....
It's possible?
Maybe you can......Previously you did a lot of thinks!!!
Great xda!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank for All
it is possible , but only for devices with sense, they have a optional command in browser for handling plugins , whit that command application can inject flash instead of flash lite -> http://android.modaco.com/content/htc-desire-desire-modaco-com/311496/flash-10-1-get-it-now/
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it is possible , but only for devices with sense, they have a optional command in browser for handling plugins , whit that command application can inject flash instead of flash lite -> http://android.modaco.com/content/htc-desire-desire-modaco-com/311496/flash-10-1-get-it-now/
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is there a link to that zip file that doesnt require you to register at that website?
Seems kinda like a waste of effort. The 2.2 AOSP just came out and we've already got 2 roms that work, albeit very early and limited ones.
It's only a matter of time before a proper 2.2 rom comes out and developers with talent should focus on getting 2.2 out there rather than trying to optimize 2.1 to run flash
would a attempt for this on dount be possible? the speed on that with out old g1's with flash would be great
At this point, it's definitely easier to just port Froyo. And that's already in progress anyway.
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Try the skyfire browser. It loads up flash videos and tranlates it to something our g1's can read. As far as I understand it, the flash player on the nexus has tons of hardware specific stuff that stop it from working on other builds (processor, screen size, etc). Besides, skyfire loads up futurama episodes perfectly=p
Where do you watch Futurama?
mejorguille said:
Try the skyfire browser...
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Yea skyfire plays 90% of videos =]
That's Great.
You're not going to make flash 10 work on an arm7 device because it's compiled for arm8.
What you could try is pulling the flashlite plugin from a hero build (made for msm7k) and try to get it plugged to the new browser, since it accepts plugins.
There's coding required, though, and I've no idea about browser plugins.
I don't think this is a good idea for a number of reasons. Processing power, lack of ram, lack of storage space, small screen, etc...
reuthermonkey said:
I don't think this is a good idea for a number of reasons. Processing power, lack of ram, lack of storage space, small screen, etc...
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Yes, I completely agree. If you simply want flash so much just buy the damn phone, you have to take in consideration what our devices are capable of. You can only push it to some point, until it goes poof. Just please, enough with the whole flash topic it's giving me a headache.
I used the flash 10 port for the evo. On kings legend. .. worked...ish. got a Facebook game to load and videos
But it was horribly slow.
PJcastaldo said:
I used the flash 10 port for the evo. On kings legend. .. worked...ish. got a Facebook game to load and videos
But it was horribly slow.
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Sounds great for the possibility of porting flash 10 to g1 theoretically... thought this wasnt possible. Could you go to http://www.whatismyflash.com/ with the browser to check if its using the flash 10 and not the flash lite built in in kings legend2g1 rom? :> thanks in advance
Anyone else get the impression that the OP has no idea about the technical roadblocks involved in this?
gophergun said:
Anyone else get the impression that the OP has no idea about the technical roadblocks involved in this?
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+1
I've always wondered, are half of you stuck in some black hole with no PCs with nothing to do but watch videos all day? If you want your phone to be a laptop... go buy a damn laptop! You can get a very nice one for the same price as a Nexus One. Sheesh.
Don't start a "think-tank" thread if you, the OP, aren't going to do any thinking to begin with.
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I dont think it is possible with 2.1 .....but g1 can handle 2.2 and might be able to handle flash too
http://www.androidguys.com/2010/05/20/google-froyo-technically-g1/
i am pretty sure that Cyanogen will find a way...just like he did for 2.1
Hello to all of my ideos (u8150) users and developers. today an amazing developer stopped working on an amazing rom, (which i have on my ideos) and because of this i browsed many roms for this phone and came up with nothing that could compare to it, and inspiration struck and i thought "since work for the rom is discontinued, and there is lack of support for many other roms, why not try to ban together a team to work on an even better rom?
before continuing, let me point out im not a dev. matter of fact i know nothing about writing roms, but i do know that the ideos is a brillant phone that deserves a strong team to back up software for it. thats where the developers that i will try to recruit will come in.
the basic idea of this "project" is simple.
1. one developer will start with a basic version. when he is done with contributions, he will then pass it on to another, then another, and so on.
2. finally, when the team sees the project as coming to a rap, the rom will be distributed through out the team and tested, and as problems come up, the team can collaberate on the issues, and when everything is working properly, RELEASE!!!!!
now i know some readers of this will ask "whats the difference between this and how roms are made now? well its simple, the objective of this is to expand the margin of knowledges from different locations, instead of using near by developers and friends. keep in mind what one area knows, one may not.
anyway, any dev is welcome to join to the project. rules and regs will be added when a variety of members have joined.
also, if any ideas of how the team will collaberate come up, feel free to offer up what you got
PLEASE JOIN!!!!!
come on people give me feed back!!!
a little incentive? okay. if a larger development team works on the roms then, roms could be produced faster, and more efficent. so if any developers are out there reading, then take up the project. with alot of devs, it wont be too time consuming either, thus making it so you could work on your own roms as well.
Greetings :hi:
I'm in ^^
not a .dev or much of anything @ the mo :lol: owned the U8150 for a couple months now (previously modding Motorola)
bricked & brought back to life my IDEOS four times... (so far) ph seems pretty indestructible but very sensitive to any system fiddling.
linux is confusing the heck outa me :chortle: back to the bottom of the learning curve I guess
but I'll help in any way I can...
great, im glad i have another supporter on bored !!!!! the first thing that needs to be done befor anything is rally up more support. we need devs, stat. even if they dont normally do ideos roms, the more support for this we get, the better the chances of this working out. if possible i would like to get the development process started sometime this week so i really need you to get any, higher ups or (most importantly) developers, to get on bored.
and for any ideos user reading this, its for all of our benifits so help out too!!!!
also, i would like to point out, that the process i listed to begin with dosnt have to be how it works. i want the devs to decide how the collaberation works.
just think of all the things that yall want out of the ideos. if this happens, there will be a higher chance of these things happening.
1. 3D
2. can i hear a 2.3?
3. cyanogen mod
4. over clocking that actually works!!!!
5. maybe instead of knock offs of 2.2 or 2.2 with a different launcher and them, we could actually see REAL homebrew roms that are 100% user created.
now you cant tell me that dosnt sound good right?
I want overclocking that works
well there you go!!!! as soon as we can get some developers on bored with "working together" then we might can achieve that and many other goals.
I am in,
My idea is not to have many features and concentrating on developing 2.3 first and then slowly on 3.0.
alright!!!!!! but let me go ahead and tell you, 3.0 would blow up an ideos . it wont even load a honeycomb theme much less the system. (turns ideos into a pile of ask and smoke.) 2.3 would be the better focus in my opinion. but anyway back to the thanks yous and campaigning, thanks for joining and if possible get every single person (even if the only electronic they know how to use is vcr) that is at least somewhat capable of programing roms.
so the point is still.......you guessed it!!!!.........MORE PEOPLE!!!!!!
.........sorry i had 4 hours of sleep so im stupid right now.
lazydesi said:
I am in,
My idea is not to have many features and concentrating on developing 2.3 first and then slowly on 3.0.
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3.0 is for qHD tablets(540 x 960).. while our device is qvga (240 x 320).. it surely can load and everything but.. won't be able to display every single detail, such as the taskbar will be miniature...Apart from that, it's better to continue developing 2.3 Gingerbread, since we already have the ports and the only leftovers will be tweaking the builds we already have to make them useful.
Thank you!
Count me in.
nba1341 said:
I want overclocking that works
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Well theres a partially working overclock thats in private beta testing but I will push it to public soon.
As for the project itself - great idea. I think focusing on gingerbread is the way to go along with a kernel overclock with gingerbread
tilal6991 said:
Well theres a partially working overclock thats in private beta testing but I will push it to public soon.
As for the project itself - great idea. I think focusing on gingerbread is the way to go along with a kernel overclock with gingerbread
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mann that sounds nice! well i think we should use the sources for froyo and tweak it to work/start devices on ginger
Heres a link to the Oced kernel http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?2370q8r5tx4fish. Just chmod the file in Linux and Mac and for all Oses just double click the appropriate file to flash the new boot image. You will need to be in bootloader mode when you do this.
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Heres a link to the Oced kernel http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?2370q8r5tx4fish. Just chmod the file in Linux and Mac and for all Oses just double click the appropriate file to flash the new boot image. You will need to be in bootloader mode when you do this.
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hey man can i implement it in my rom?
maury1234 said:
hey man can i implement it in my rom?
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Feel free. (But please do credit me for compiling the kernel)
you see? careing and sharing CAN be fun joking aside i love the smell of development in the morning. this is a great start. so its agreed 2.3 is the best approach? well then maury 1234 seems to have a lot done on it so i say, (if its allright with her) build of hers. its deffinatly up for consideration so maury what you say?
oh and btw maury, sadly i cant install the v3 to see how its working because im stuck with an outdated version of clockwork -_- so do you have any testers?
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you see? careing and sharing CAN be fun joking aside i love the smell of development in the morning. this is a great start. so its agreed 2.3 is the best approach? well then maury 1234 seems to have a lot done on it so i say, (if its allright with her) build of hers. its deffinatly up for consideration so maury what you say?
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sure man...btw im a guy...you can use my builds...
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oh and btw maury, sadly i cant install the v3 to see how its working because im stuck with an outdated version of clockwork -_- so do you have any testers?
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use ultrajack's recovery....later on ill update update-script to updater
okay so i installed ultrajack, downloaded the rom, installed it but i got stock clean rom v5 instead of gingerbread. apperently the link to the download was right but what it downloads was wrong. do you have a fix?