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[Q] Honeycomb for nook color, why not for us?

Why are we not getting honeycomb to play with?

You really need to read some threads before posting a question that has already been answered many times.
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And the honeycomb you are referencing has no practical use in the real world. Its a hacked together UI that does nothing but run the preview sdk

if it was worth it we would have it. our devs kick ass

Moved to general

I hate to sound like a jerk but what is it with all the people whining about honeycomb. The only version out so far is a hacked version built off the prelim sdk and in no way will work for the g tablet. Anyone who has been Modding for anytime knows the cardinal rule for android...
DON'T ASK FOR ETA'S.
When honeycomb is officially released by Google I'm sure it'll be like every other release and in a short time we'll have our own version. Until then have some patience please and do some research.

or if you want honeycomb straight away then get a xoom and pay the big bucks

What i dont get is why do people ask and ask...........
Doesnt your gtab do everything you need It to?
honeycomb... Hero cookie....danish....pop tart...soda cracker........flap jack or royal with cheese
Just names I dont see anything i cant wait for.
Now when they say the next android version will give my gtab the ability for it to make me samwiches and give me oral pleasure on demand that is when i will be all over the devs to build that $hit....

Instead of anwers that are coherent and useful we get alot of mouthy folks that serve no purpose. What a bunch of AH's!

Really?
BilliamB said:
Instead of anwers that are coherent and useful we get alot of mouthy folks that serve no purpose. What a bunch of AH's!
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Let me get this straight. You post in the wrong section, you ask for an ETA, and you obviously did not search, which also means you did not read any of the forum rules or stickies. Yet, somehow we are all assholes. You know if you just follow a few simple rules your experience with XDA will be much better. The rules here are no different than any other forum. I am going to assume you are new to this, so I will help you a bit. Search for what an SDK port is and you will quickly realize why you do not want this.

BilliamB said:
Instead of anwers that are coherent and useful we get alot of mouthy folks that serve no purpose. What a bunch of AH's!
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I think you should flash the Nook Color ROM BilliamB, you obviously know what you're doing, I'm sure you can get it to work. I mean come on, the G Tablet has a Tegra 2 processor, it should totally work right? Although you may want to read a few threads.... oh wait, you obviously don't do that. Come on dude, the only one here being an AH (as you put it) is you.
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Seriously.... You will not see Honeycomb on the G Tablet until another unit is released with Honeycomb and has the Tegra 2 chip. The issue is the instruction sets are different enough that its not a one for one port. The Nook, Dell Streak 5, Tegra 2, etc. are all based on the ARMv7 instruction set but there are difference in their implementation enough that make them incompatible. In addition the biggest differences lay in the I/O subsystem which makes these platforms completely different. With these major differences it makes porting from the emulator (which is how they are getting Honeycomb to work) a daunting tasking and nearly impossible on a Tegra 2 based device.
I am very confident after the first Honeycomb system image is posted it will be running on our tablets... It will be a race as to who gets props on Engadget for being the first to port to the G Tablet..
You would get less hostility if you read, learned and asked accordingly. Its a give and take community. Unfortunately the way you asked makes it seem your less inclined to contribute and just take...
BilliamB said:
Instead of anwers that are coherent and useful we get alot of mouthy folks that serve no purpose. What a bunch of AH's!
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Honeycomb is coming to the g-tablet in March, till then.
RERRRAAXXXX

BilliamB said:
Instead of anwers that are coherent and useful we get alot of mouthy folks that serve no purpose. What a bunch of AH's!
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Seriously dude....This is about the 10th thread with this same topic started since the nook got the honeycomb sdk running. You ask questions without searching and then cause you dont get the answer you want you call us names. Don't worry, most of us won't answer your questions anymore.....ever.

BilliamB said:
Instead of anwers that are coherent and useful we get alot of mouthy folks that serve no purpose. What a bunch of AH's!
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Whoa!!! Bad move man, bad move. You need realize that you can't call people who are willing to spend rediculous amounts of thier personal time to provide the community with amazing firmware AH's! Quite the contrary - They are saints (and, actually, you serve no purpose).
Swyped from my VEGAn-TAB-v1.0.0B5.1

deep_powder2012 said:
Whoa!!! Bad move man, bad move. You need realize that you can't call people who are willing to spend rediculous amounts of thier personal time to provide the community with amazing firmware AH's! Quite the contrary - They are saints (and, actually, you serve no purpose).
Swyped from my VEGAn-TAB-v1.0.0B5.1
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Totally agreed. XD.

Hey Alpha06...
I'm just curious if that is a confirmed news or word of mouth that the G-tablet would have Honeycomb around the March?

I wouldn't guarantee that Honeycomb for the G-tab would be available for sure in March, however I wouldn't be surprised to see Alpha-versions of Honeycomb ROMs shortly after the first Tegra2 devices are released and rooted. Like everyone has been saying around here, don't ask for an ETA, because the people around here that do develop do it on their personal time. They have lives, work, and possibly kids, wives, or whatever that also wants their time as well.
Remember, porting a ROM is a lot easier if there is solid reference material to build from. As you may notice, TNT-Lite comes from his building on and improving the existing TNT version of Android that came with the G-Tablet. Vegan is a modification and improvement of the Vega OS. I don't believe that the developers of either package (and correct me if I am wrong) went to Google's GIT repository for Android and compiled their own versions of the OS specifically for the device - along with writing their own custom device drivers for all of the internal hardware. They built off of, and improved what was available.
IIRC, the Nook port of Honeycomb is only partially functional. The just released port for the Dell Streak (http://www.mytabletlife.com/2011/02/08/dell-streak-honeycomb-port/) is as well. Why, because they are essentially starting from scratch.
Which brings everything back to my original point. As soon as reference devices are out in the wild, I'm sure that will be the point where we will see Honeycomb ports start to pop up here as well.
BigJohn

march can not get here soon enough... heh.

honey comb 3.0

hey guys please dont be mad im just trying to see if this will help ur development as i want a g tablet myself currently i am in the hd2 android development forums on xda and there a guy found some honeycomb for desire hd i know honeycomb is suppose to be for tablets so i thought why not let u guys see what u could do with it here a link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=960503 or u could just google hd2 android development xda its there in the nand development part of it the devs in there are working on porting it to hd2 maybe ur devs can get it working

most of the gtab devs are still working on gingerbread.
I would imagine that they won't focus on Honeycomb until an official SDK is released. Right now everything you are seeing is probably based off of the preview SDK.
Google has 30 days to release the SDK after someone releases the first product (probably the XOOM) with honeycomb on it.
trust me, i'm patiently waiting too...

Yeah, probably it is ported from the SDK preview so it is not very usefull to usbecause it is not complete and it doesnt suports our dual core.
digitalslacker said:
most of the gtab devs are still working on gingerbread.
I would imagine that they won't focus on Honeycomb until an official SDK is released. Right now everything you are seeing is probably based off of the preview SDK.
Google has 30 days to release the SDK after someone releases the first product (probably the XOOM) with honeycomb on it.
trust me, i'm patiently waiting too...
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Really? i though we were really waiting for the xoom release because the rom could be ripped out from the xoom and ported for our beloved tablet.(Xoom release this thursday)
I also though, because i read a post, that making a rom from an SDK was not very convinient and that it implied a lot of work. I could be wrong or i could have read wrong.
BTW: I think this is the wrong section to post this. XD, I could be wrong about that also.

Well, I think it's possible to port it from xoom to gtab.
Buy me one and I'll do it for you, for free! =D
Cheers

Not development. Moved to General.

It could be an SDK port, but I'll check it out. Thanks for the link.
EDIT: Yeah, this looks like an SDK port - I can tell just from the build.prop.

Folks at NotionInkHacks claim they are close to a port already:
http://notioninkhacks.com/index.php/2011/02/18/notioninkhacks-com-what-we-need-for-honey-comb/
Given what they say they are still missing, I'm not so sure, but...

EwanG said:
Folks at NotionInkHacks claim they are close to a port already:
http://notioninkhacks.com/index.php/2011/02/18/notioninkhacks-com-what-we-need-for-honey-comb/
Given what they say they are still missing, I'm not so sure, but...
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If this is true, i think it needs its own topic and maybe a sticky.

Pazzu510 said:
If this is true, i think it needs its own topic and maybe a sticky.
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When a real honeycomb rom is available i guarantee there will be a stickied topic in development. NotionInkHacks are no closer than anyone else. Some of the same people are working on their roms as the GTab roms. Everyone is still missing the same files.

yeah, probably you are right. I hope we can get those files from the Xoom in its release this Thursday.

The A-Team at Notion Ink Hacks takes pride in our secrecy and the ability to get things done. We are very close to porting Honeycomb for both the Notion Ink Adam and the Viewsonic GTab. However, we need your help to find a Tegra based Boot.img and System.img for Honeycomb.
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I'm guessing that's all the xda developers here need to get Honeycomb up and running gtab also.

Don't worry about Adam versus GTAB - they are so similar that if one gets it, the other won't be far behind. And the VEGA too, we'll all benefit I'm sure.

Beta honeycomb port for Gtablet available.

There is a semi working port of honeycomb for the g-tablet available from the below link. I looked through the threads and could find no mention of this.
http://rom-honeycomb-for-gtab-12.com/

brainyjd said:
There is a semi working port of honeycomb for the g-tablet available from the below link. I looked through the threads and could find no mention of this.
http://rom-honeycomb-for-gtab.com/
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Most of the threads regarding this are in the G tablet General forum...

brainyjd said:
There is a semi working port of honeycomb for the g-tablet available from the below link. I looked through the threads and could find no mention of this.
http://rom-honeycomb-for-gtab-12.com/
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You need to look harder.
The thing is, because its not being developed/released on xda its not mentioned in the Development section.

sorry - It makes sense that this is not in the dev thread
It makes sense that this is not in the dev thread but it is big news and I skim for new post every day in the dev section and did not see any. Sorry I wish I could delete this post.

brainyjd said:
There is a semi working port of honeycomb for the g-tablet available from the below link. I looked through the threads and could find no mention of this.
http://rom-honeycomb-for-gtab.com/
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It's actually still in ALPHA not Beta

Not development. Moved to general.

It's here, and looks great but some features dont work.. still great
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065220

theimpaler747 said:
Not development. Moved to general.
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I'm curious about this since the project obviously IS development, but is being moved to General every time a thread references it.
Is this happening because Roebeet is now, for some reason no one has shared, persona non grata around here?
I mean, I guess it makes sense if he is no longer part of the XDA "family" but it still seems kind of silly.

I believe it is because the DEVELOPMENT is happening elsewhere.
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nunjabusiness said:
I'm curious about this since the project obviously IS development, but is being moved to General every time a thread references it.
Is this happening because Roebeet is now, for some reason no one has shared, persona non grata around here?
I mean, I guess it makes sense if he is no longer part of the XDA "family" but it still seems kind of silly.
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It's not that at all..
Development is for the actual development of something and by the developer of that something, not the discussion of things being developed elsewhere regardless of who is developing it.
A good example.....CM7, the primary source tree for all Gingerbread built ROMs on the Gtablet is discussed in General as well because CyanogenMod is not posting their development and issues....it's others just talking about it.
The easiest way to think of it is that the development forum section is for a developer to post on their work and get feedback.
If it's not your work and you aren't doing the "developing" on it.....post it in General.

This really makes me want to punch whoever that drove roebeet away. Seriously, the guy is as dedicated as you can expect any dev who's doing this out of pure hobbyist enthusiasm.
The guy actually spent his valuable time to give us honeycream. Whoever that accused roebeet of any ill intention and effectively drove him away, shame on you. You should go and buy an ipad and leave us gtabbers alone.

When you think about it viewsonic made this all possible by releasing the 1.2 bl. In the end they have given us honey creams...
The honey comb port is from another device that uses a compatible or similar bl.
Roebeet is simply ironing out the gtab specific bugs. But therew are numerous bugs, so his work is much appreciated.
I definitely hate following the development on an outside site from xda. Because I love this community. But it is what it is.
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goodintentions said:
This really makes me want to punch whoever that drove roebeet away. Seriously, the guy is as dedicated as you can expect any dev who's doing this out of pure hobbyist enthusiasm.
The guy actually spent his valuable time to give us honeycream. Whoever that accused roebeet of any ill intention and effectively drove him away, shame on you. You should go and buy an ipad and leave us gtabbers alone.
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Well said goodintentions !!
I don't agree with some of your posts,
but this one I can't agree more.

goodintentions said:
This really makes me want to punch whoever that drove roebeet away. Seriously, the guy is as dedicated as you can expect any dev who's doing this out of pure hobbyist enthusiasm.
The guy actually spent his valuable time to give us honeycream. Whoever that accused roebeet of any ill intention and effectively drove him away, shame on you. You should go and buy an ipad and leave us gtabbers alone.
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You can find him on slate droid and he is working on honeycomb.

Last edited by jerdog; Today at 02:00 PM. Reason: Against XDA rules to direct traffic to another tablet/forum site
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Really Jerdog?
I think you take this too far. Just being a jerk now.
I guess you will be removing all links to CM7 huh? Isn't that another tablet/phone/forum site? Those DEV's don't post/host their projects here.
I've never really taken sides in this little spat, but I think this is childish.
It's not like this is just one of many CM7 derivatives. It's the only bootable HC image I know of for the G-tab at this moment. Whatever flaws, issues, malfunctions it may have, many in these forums would like to play around.

This is an amazing rom for an alpha!
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Zaphod-Beeblebrox said:
It's not like this is just one of many CM7 derivatives. It's the only bootable HC image I know of for the G-tab at this moment. Whatever flaws, issues, malfunctions it may have, many in these forums would like to play around.
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Don't worry its all over the General section right now
XDA is merely reaping what some of its members/mods have planted (see: roebeet vs. XDA regarding 1.2 bl), and the more they continue to make a big issue about it the more the members will be trafficking and directing others traffic outside XDA.
Zaphod-Beeblebrox said:
It's the only bootable HC image I know of for the G-tab at this moment. Whatever flaws, issues, malfunctions it may have, many in these forums would like to play around.
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Thats not the issue here (IMHO), the thing is , everyone who wants to try this ROM needs to load 1.2bl, this just proves that 1.2bl was the way to go (as suggested a month or two ago). The 1.1 <-> 1.2 switch just to try honeycomb will drive many users (at one point or another) to keep using the semi-backed, still alpha, HC release to avoid the overhead of the switch (especially given the rate of advances made in the HC port and bricking risk involved in jumping back and forth). Now all the current ROM developers (in clear contradiction to what XDA advocated) will need to either release 1.2 compatible ROMs or risk loss of interest.

Now all the current ROM developers (in clear contradiction to what XDA advocated) will need to either release 1.2 compatible ROMs or risk loss of interest.
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I originally thought that they didn't want to do this becuase they will then have wasted all that time on the 1.1 Roms that are still in development...but then something dawned on me. Roebeet was able to port 3 existing Roms, all that he worked on, to 1.2. One based on TNT lite, one based on Gadam, and one (and probably best Rom I've ever used) based on Vegan. Keep in mind, he had all 3 of these up and running in about 2 days. He's actually been working on all of those, the HC port, and general 1.2 tools all at the same time. He's created direct and simple processes to flash to 1.2, a revised CWM for it, has Pershoot and Clemsyn on board with kernels.
Call me a fanboi, etc...but the man has really put in some major time on the 1.2 projects.

aasoror said:
Don't worry its all over the General section right now
XDA is merely reaping what some of its members/mods have planted (see: roebeet vs. XDA regarding 1.2 bl), and the more they continue to make a big issue about it the more the members will be trafficking and directing others traffic outside XDA.
Thats not the issue here (IMHO), the thing is , everyone who wants to try this ROM needs to load 1.2bl, this just proves that 1.2bl was the way to go (as suggested a month or two ago). The 1.1 <-> 1.2 switch just to try honeycomb will drive many users (at one point or another) to keep using the semi-backed, still alpha, HC release to avoid the overhead of the switch (especially given the rate of advances made in the HC port and bricking risk involved in jumping back and forth). Now all the current ROM developers (in clear contradiction to what XDA advocated) will need to either release 1.2 compatible ROMs or risk loss of interest.
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TJEvans said:
I originally thought that they didn't want to do this becuase they will then have wasted all that time on the 1.1 Roms that are still in development...but then something dawned on me. Roebeet was able to port 3 existing Roms, all that he worked on, to 1.2. One based on TNT lite, one based on Gadam, and one (and probably best Rom I've ever used) based on Vegan. Keep in mind, he had all 3 of these up and running in about 2 days. He's actually been working on all of those, the HC port, and general 1.2 tools all at the same time. He's created direct and simple processes to flash to 1.2, a revised CWM for it, has Pershoot and Clemsyn on board with kernels.
Call me a fanboi, etc...but the man has really put in some major time on the 1.2 projects.
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The whole 1.1/1.2 bootloader thing is stupid and melodramatic. There is little difference, and no real reason to use one vs the other. As builds from Malata get released, this will likely be a non-issue. sooner or later a 'standard' will emerge. Time takes care of this.
As for this 'overhead' between switching, its a fairly simple process to nvFlash. I think we forget that this is an enthusiasts and developers site. There are plenty of threads/articles explaining how to do it. This ain't Viewsonic Tech support. If you can't read these threads and learn how to do this, you really shouldn't be toying with the firmware to start with.

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The whole 1.1/1.2 bootloader thing is stupid and melodramatic. There is little difference, and no real reason to use one vs the other. As builds from Malata get released, this will likely be a non-issue. sooner or later a 'standard' will emerge. Time takes care of this.
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At the moment there is a few good reasons to use 1.2. The main one is HoneyComb . But it has been found that the 1.2 for the Adam is interchangeable with our 1.2. The adam developers have said they are working on a gingerbread release which means that 1.2 will be the way to get acceleration on a gingerbread rom.
Sure at the moment, if you don't feel like playing around with Honeycomb which is only partially working (I can't believe how much progress has been made in the last 2 days), there is no real reason to switch today. But, it looks like the best of what will come out in the near future is on 1.2 which can only be found on a different web site currently.

[Q] ICS source release?

Sorry if this has been asked already but I don't have time to look right now and its terribly important that I get an answer. When will ICS source be released and will the devs be able to make roms from source? Anyone have an ETA on ICS roms? I've asked on IRC but they didn't seem to know and as xda is the site I thought maybe someone would have the answer.
Also.....has anyone heard what the next Android will be called? It will have to start with a J if they follow current naming. I think "Jelly Doughnut" would be neat and would bring it around to the old Doughnut release. Is there an ETA on this release? When can we expect devs to start making custom roms with this source?
I really am sorry if this has been asked already but the search function doesn't work on my tablet very well and I was confused by the results. Thank you in advance for your kind and thoughtful answers and remember that the 1st rule of XDA is to be respectful. Well its really the only rule that matters. So be kind to me please.
Lets all hit that thanks button in the developers thread to let them know how much we appreciate their hard work and if you can donate even $5 to the developer(s) it will go a long way in showing how much they mean to us.
BTW.....the next release after Jelly Doughnut would just have to be "Kiwi Shortcake" don't you think? Of course I read in another thread that Android is doomed because mobile flash is going away so maybe Ice Cream Sandwich will be the last release. Do you think Google would release all their work to the devs here at xda when Android dies so maybe someone here could continue to provide updates?
P.S. Sorry for the rambling but I am heavily medicated and unable to concentrate for more than 60 seconds which leads to me double posting and asking the same questions over and over as I tend to forget what I did 2 minutes ago.
P.S.S. One more question. When Google releases "Kiwi Shortcake" source do you think the devs will be able to root it and make custom roms. How about being able to overclock to 1 THrz?
THX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
EDIT: Couldn't remember if I asked about ICS rom ETAS but I did so just ignore this edit please
xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxox
EDIT2: Sorry for the spelling and grammer mistakes but I am from the backwoods of Oklahoma and I didn't learn much when I failed 8th grade for the 20th time last year.

Android Police reported on sth suggesting the next is Jelly Bean. That was sometime before I went on vacation in August. I personally prefer the doughnuts but 1.6/Donut makes me think the bean is more likely.
AFAIK we get source when we get it, sometime after manufactures have had time to ship stuff. I also expect we will see more complicated ICS ROMs after ASUS OTA's ICS.

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Android Police reported on sth suggesting the next is Jelly Bean. That was sometime before I went on vacation in August. I personally prefer the doughnuts but 1.6/Donut makes me think the bean is more likely.
AFAIK we get source when we get it, sometime after manufactures have had time to ship stuff. I also expect we will see more complicated ICS ROMs after ASUS OTA's ICS.
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Thanks for quick and thoughtful response.

thebadfrog, I keep seeing you say that Android will die, despite many more people telling you that Android is not tied to flash... Are you maintaining that stance, or are you just trying to spread discord and sorrow here?
By the way, K is definitely for Kentucky Fried Chicken. Or Kumquats.

way to much sarcasm up in here

So Android isn't tied to flash? I'm so confused. I guess I will give up then
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thebadfrog said:
So Android isn't tied to flash? I'm so confused. I guess I will give up then
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Flash is widely used but old html5 will replace it eventually languages programming and the i.t community in general is constantly evolving so flash wont be the end and nor will html5 for that matter.
There is never an end just a new begining
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No, no, no. You have to wait. All the developers now should be working on this primary (and urgent) objective: porting windows8 to tf101.
We NEED win8. Don't ask me why someone buy an android tablet only to install windows on it, but we really need it.
Yes, you are right: android can't exist without flash.
How can a mobile phone / tablet / mp3 player exists and be popular without flash player? Someone tried to engraving an apple behind it, with the intent to distract people from the lack of flash, and sell it anyway; it was just luck.
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Don't take what you read here seriuosly. Even better: don't take anything seriously.
Winter is coming, it's cold outside and these days are really boring...
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I haven't used flash for a week yet somehow I believe my true Android experience would be less in the last week if I didn't have flash. Thanks to everyone trying desperately to explain flash to me and how it won't affect Android. I'm so sorry for having caused everyone confusion and I respectfully beg your forgiveness.
BTW. Do you thiink they will release "Kiwi Shortcake" source anytime soon. I'm looking forward to overclocking to 1THrz

OT but if anyone brings a version of Windows anywhere near my TF, using more than a VM -> I will crack off their funny fingers off.
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thebadfrog said:
I haven't used flash for a week yet somehow I believe my true Android experience would be less in the last week if I didn't have flash. Thanks to everyone trying desperately to explain flash to me and how it won't affect Android. I'm so sorry for having caused everyone confusion and I respectfully beg your forgiveness.
BTW. Do you thiink they will release "Kiwi Shortcake" source anytime soon. I'm looking forward to overclocking to 1THrz
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What did intel put the 80 core into production and decide to skip universitys armys goverment departments and desktops and put them straight into tablets my god thats wonderfull news
I read the overclock will be 1.4 thrz stable
And there first tablet will weigh 2.1kg be 12cm thick and have 8gb of ram
Best thing it will have windows 8 android and ubuntu in tri boot using there proprietery boot loader that is semi unlocked from stock allowing you to change distros !!!!!!!
The screen will be 14.5 inches and use a new led type display with the worlds fastest refresh rate and 10x the density of a retina display

[Q] ICS on infuse 4G?

is there any possibility that ICS rom is ported to INFUSE 4G?

Fail...you know what, I'm not going to flame you. How about you go to the other bajillion threads on noobs asking for ICS and consider the flaming there "yours."
And you'd think after being a member since 09, you would read first...

xIC-MACIx said:
Fail...you know what, I'm not going to flame you. How about you go to the other bajillion threads on noobs asking for ICS and consider the flaming there "yours."
And you'd think after being a member since 09, you would read first...
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Will Samsung release an ICS update For us

No
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What about a "leak"

No...lol
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aly_hosny said:
What about a "leak"
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You can't have ice cream until you're done eating yogurt. When you're full, you can have gingerbread. After gingerbread, you can trade it in for a Captivate and put ice cream on it.

Or just buy a phone that is actually supported by samy... Us Infusers are just going to be perpetually left out of the freezer... No sammiches for us

problem around here is the developers never wanted to work with what we have. froyo alone has a ton of potential left in it but with Sammy dangling gb in our faces the devs that made the infuse what it is just got to a point that it was a waiting game and they got tired of waiting. I think the best plan is to work with what we have and make the most out of it. stop jerking around wanting what's not there and just make the most of what is there. froyo on the galaxy s was miles beyond the infuse to the point I was uneasy about upgrading to gb on my cappy.
infuse owners have to realize the infuse has an expiration date. next time get an international flasgship or something closely related to it, that or a nexus where you will have updates for several years coming.

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Dani897 said:
problem around here is the developers never wanted to work with what we have. froyo alone has a ton of potential left in it but with Sammy dangling gb in our faces the devs that made the infuse what it is just got to a point that it was a waiting game and they got tired of waiting. I think the best plan is to work with what we have and make the most out of it. stop jerking around wanting what's not there and just make the most of what is there. froyo on the galaxy s was miles beyond the infuse to the point I was uneasy about upgrading to gb on my cappy.
infuse owners have to realize the infuse has an expiration date. next time get an international flasgship or something closely related to it, that or a nexus where you will have updates for several years coming.
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Hey, everyone, I just thought I'd help translate some jargon for the n00bz ... It'd look amateur without it, like a map without a color key, you know?
around here: xda-developers.com, one website and, really, only a little section of it.
froyo: three versions ago in the operating system of topic
jerking around wanting what's not there: asking for current software (...the nerve!!)
sammy: Samsung Electronics Co., or its $220bn parent company Samsung Group (total 2010 revenue)
dangling gb: Samsung's apparent plans to produce, release, and support Android v.2.3, Gingerbread ("gb")
cappy: Samsung Captivate, released July 2010 in U.S.
"froyo ... miles beyond the infuse" : Unintelligible
Okay, I hope I did a good job. Now, if the n00bz keep asking questions, we can do them the service of making our language transparent! Why they won't just get it is astounding... I mean, who would ask questions about new software, anyway?? Just blows my mind... and who could make the mistake of thinking there might be a straight answer about something promising, that is, the new practical features of Ice Cream Sandwich (Android v.4) on a forum dweller's tongue is just plain offensive! Enduring such ignorance is hard, but I suppose it's a must. Live & let live... keep up the tolerance, fellow Infusers.

point taken I guess. what is annoying is the xda moderators have 2 search engines. on is xda wide Google assisted and the other is forum/thread based, not only that but when you create a new thread it suggests threads on similar topics you should read before posting the thread right in your face. yet this will not be the last ics request or "is it available" thread... but I wasn't gonna go there.
as far as ics. it needs a really talented dev to find ways to interface the proprietary stuff from gb to ics. even if we got a bootable version it would possibly be months before it was usable as more than a music player. the galaxy s is very lucky to have a number of talented devs and a closer relationship to the nexus s. even though the rom end could be taken from the galaxy s the kernel would be a big undertaking due to different GPS, Bluetooth, radio, screen, and other componants.

Hm .. lots to think about, there .
Holding these abandoned devices in your hand makes you pine daily for updates on developers' progress toward what would appear to be inevitable. If it isn't, it is a commercial atrocity
By "interface," there, do you mean device emulation or rewritten device drivers? i'm attempting to assess the nature of the challenge, less so its magnitude. i do appreciate both this and the frustration with lazy users.
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physivic said:
Hm .. lots to think about, there .
Holding these abandoned devices in your hand makes you pine daily for updates on developers' progress toward what would appear to be inevitable. If it isn't, it is a commercial atrocity
By "interface," there, do you mean device emulation or rewritten device drivers? i'm attempting to assess the nature of the challenge, less so its magnitude. i do appreciate both this and the frustration with lazy users.
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it could be emulation or I guess some kind of wrapper. like how Linux can use windows wifi drivers on a PC. driver rewrites need source code and/or documentation I would think.
I don't know the technical details but I know entropy has brought up things that have changed that may be hard to port. maybe if the cm9 team actually had an infuse. they have some real talent but the problem is getting it in the hands of an interested member of the team.
we lucked out with Linux bozo but I don't think its typical for a device to get a cm port without the cm team having involvement if the kernel is unique. on many older HTC phones kernels are somewhat cross compatible so those phones are a little more able to share development.

who releases kernels
! Who is responsible for developing/releasing kernels ???

For ics, no one
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For ifs, no one
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If someone could come to us, then it would be great. I was thinking maybe we could get DA_G to come over, except idk if he would want to deal with such hard hardware. And to people saying cm9, we do not necissarily need that. Any kind of aosp would be nice.

Ryanscool said:
If someone could come to us, then it would be great. I was thinking maybe we could get DA_G to come over, except idk if he would want to deal with such hard hardware. And to people saying cm9, we do not necissarily need that. Any kind of aosp would be nice.
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I know but come on really, I mess around with what others build and I have also have a sky, I don't submit my stuff because frankly half the time it sucks, and I don't have the time to mess with bugs, I've been building rom since windows 5.1 and I can tell you that ics would suck on this phone, not enough ram, yes you can do it but, it would suck
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Zeus 6 with ics revamped theme, or are you looking for legit ics?
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I know but come on really, I mess around with what others build and I have also have a sky, I don't submit my stuff because frankly half the time it sucks, and I don't have the time to mess with bugs, I've been building rom since windows 5.1 and I can tell you that ics would suck on this phone, not enough ram, yes you can do it but, it would suck
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432100 proof it can be done... and it looks nice haha.

I know it can, but it seems pointless, but I guess we are here to test, so I was wrong in my comment
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