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[Q] Honeycomb for nook color, why not for us?

Why are we not getting honeycomb to play with?

You really need to read some threads before posting a question that has already been answered many times.
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And the honeycomb you are referencing has no practical use in the real world. Its a hacked together UI that does nothing but run the preview sdk

if it was worth it we would have it. our devs kick ass

Moved to general

I hate to sound like a jerk but what is it with all the people whining about honeycomb. The only version out so far is a hacked version built off the prelim sdk and in no way will work for the g tablet. Anyone who has been Modding for anytime knows the cardinal rule for android...
DON'T ASK FOR ETA'S.
When honeycomb is officially released by Google I'm sure it'll be like every other release and in a short time we'll have our own version. Until then have some patience please and do some research.

or if you want honeycomb straight away then get a xoom and pay the big bucks

What i dont get is why do people ask and ask...........
Doesnt your gtab do everything you need It to?
honeycomb... Hero cookie....danish....pop tart...soda cracker........flap jack or royal with cheese
Just names I dont see anything i cant wait for.
Now when they say the next android version will give my gtab the ability for it to make me samwiches and give me oral pleasure on demand that is when i will be all over the devs to build that $hit....

Instead of anwers that are coherent and useful we get alot of mouthy folks that serve no purpose. What a bunch of AH's!

Really?
BilliamB said:
Instead of anwers that are coherent and useful we get alot of mouthy folks that serve no purpose. What a bunch of AH's!
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Let me get this straight. You post in the wrong section, you ask for an ETA, and you obviously did not search, which also means you did not read any of the forum rules or stickies. Yet, somehow we are all assholes. You know if you just follow a few simple rules your experience with XDA will be much better. The rules here are no different than any other forum. I am going to assume you are new to this, so I will help you a bit. Search for what an SDK port is and you will quickly realize why you do not want this.

BilliamB said:
Instead of anwers that are coherent and useful we get alot of mouthy folks that serve no purpose. What a bunch of AH's!
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I think you should flash the Nook Color ROM BilliamB, you obviously know what you're doing, I'm sure you can get it to work. I mean come on, the G Tablet has a Tegra 2 processor, it should totally work right? Although you may want to read a few threads.... oh wait, you obviously don't do that. Come on dude, the only one here being an AH (as you put it) is you.
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Seriously.... You will not see Honeycomb on the G Tablet until another unit is released with Honeycomb and has the Tegra 2 chip. The issue is the instruction sets are different enough that its not a one for one port. The Nook, Dell Streak 5, Tegra 2, etc. are all based on the ARMv7 instruction set but there are difference in their implementation enough that make them incompatible. In addition the biggest differences lay in the I/O subsystem which makes these platforms completely different. With these major differences it makes porting from the emulator (which is how they are getting Honeycomb to work) a daunting tasking and nearly impossible on a Tegra 2 based device.
I am very confident after the first Honeycomb system image is posted it will be running on our tablets... It will be a race as to who gets props on Engadget for being the first to port to the G Tablet..
You would get less hostility if you read, learned and asked accordingly. Its a give and take community. Unfortunately the way you asked makes it seem your less inclined to contribute and just take...
BilliamB said:
Instead of anwers that are coherent and useful we get alot of mouthy folks that serve no purpose. What a bunch of AH's!
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Honeycomb is coming to the g-tablet in March, till then.
RERRRAAXXXX

BilliamB said:
Instead of anwers that are coherent and useful we get alot of mouthy folks that serve no purpose. What a bunch of AH's!
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Seriously dude....This is about the 10th thread with this same topic started since the nook got the honeycomb sdk running. You ask questions without searching and then cause you dont get the answer you want you call us names. Don't worry, most of us won't answer your questions anymore.....ever.

BilliamB said:
Instead of anwers that are coherent and useful we get alot of mouthy folks that serve no purpose. What a bunch of AH's!
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Whoa!!! Bad move man, bad move. You need realize that you can't call people who are willing to spend rediculous amounts of thier personal time to provide the community with amazing firmware AH's! Quite the contrary - They are saints (and, actually, you serve no purpose).
Swyped from my VEGAn-TAB-v1.0.0B5.1

deep_powder2012 said:
Whoa!!! Bad move man, bad move. You need realize that you can't call people who are willing to spend rediculous amounts of thier personal time to provide the community with amazing firmware AH's! Quite the contrary - They are saints (and, actually, you serve no purpose).
Swyped from my VEGAn-TAB-v1.0.0B5.1
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Totally agreed. XD.

Hey Alpha06...
I'm just curious if that is a confirmed news or word of mouth that the G-tablet would have Honeycomb around the March?

I wouldn't guarantee that Honeycomb for the G-tab would be available for sure in March, however I wouldn't be surprised to see Alpha-versions of Honeycomb ROMs shortly after the first Tegra2 devices are released and rooted. Like everyone has been saying around here, don't ask for an ETA, because the people around here that do develop do it on their personal time. They have lives, work, and possibly kids, wives, or whatever that also wants their time as well.
Remember, porting a ROM is a lot easier if there is solid reference material to build from. As you may notice, TNT-Lite comes from his building on and improving the existing TNT version of Android that came with the G-Tablet. Vegan is a modification and improvement of the Vega OS. I don't believe that the developers of either package (and correct me if I am wrong) went to Google's GIT repository for Android and compiled their own versions of the OS specifically for the device - along with writing their own custom device drivers for all of the internal hardware. They built off of, and improved what was available.
IIRC, the Nook port of Honeycomb is only partially functional. The just released port for the Dell Streak (http://www.mytabletlife.com/2011/02/08/dell-streak-honeycomb-port/) is as well. Why, because they are essentially starting from scratch.
Which brings everything back to my original point. As soon as reference devices are out in the wild, I'm sure that will be the point where we will see Honeycomb ports start to pop up here as well.
BigJohn

march can not get here soon enough... heh.

Xoom unlockable and relockable bootloader

So does this mean that the devs will be able to strip honeycomb out of the xoom easily for us g-tabers?
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/02/2...ckablerelockable-bootloader-for-development/#

That would be my assumption. Great news!
Edit:

I just saw that announcement as well. Seems like good news. I'm a little shocked honestly.
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I'm sure its only a matter of time before someone yells at us for talking about honeycomb in a forum, but I too am curious about that. I know that Roebeet was answering some questions on another honeycomb thread, which I really appreciate. Seems to me, now that honeycomb is right around the corner, that some discussion about what must be done to get honeycomb on our g tabs would be useful.
Is anyone who checks this forum getting a Xoom? It would be great if a developer could let us know what might be needed from a xoom to begin work on a gtab honeycomb rom (if it is even possible). Im much more hopeful now after learning about the unlockable bootloader. I'm not asking for honeycomb tomorrow by any means, but am very curious about what steps would need to be taken to get honeycomb on the gtab. Thanks for any help!

Guys, our dev community here is one of the best. Roebeet and Rothnic are already active on the Xoom forum and inquiring/waiting/stalking for a system rom dump. ..gotta luv 'em.
See here for the Xoom forum on xda
When you start seeing threads about roms and the like on those forums, Honeycomb for the Gtab won't be far behind.

Thanks for the update!

atakapa said:
Guys, our dev community here is one of the best. Roebeet and Rothnic are already active on the Xoom forum and inquiring/waiting/stalking for a system rom dump. ..gotta luv 'em.
See here for the Xoom forum on xda
When you start seeing threads about roms and the like on those forums, Honeycomb for the Gtab won't be far behind.
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Thanks for the info. Maybe a mod should post a sticky like your post to cut down on honeycomb threads.
Thanks again \oo/
Sent from my Froyo Leak...thanks Kaos \00/

neo4uo said:
Thanks for the info. Maybe a mod should post a sticky like your post to cut down on honeycomb threads.
Thanks again \oo/
Sent from my Froyo Leak...thanks Kaos \00/
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Exactly what I was thinking. If anyone in the know could explain whats the approximate timeline for Google's releases of AOSP in relation to the release of flagship device with the corresponding update.

cjackxiii said:
Exactly what I was thinking. If anyone in the know could explain whats the approximate time line for Google's releases of AOSP in relation to the release of flagship device with the corresponding update.
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Read in another post here that Google has 30 days from the release of the first device running an OS before they have to release it to AOSP. again this is from a post I read and can't locate at the moment (too many Where's honeycomb threads to deal with looking through) so take it for what its worth.

Even so, would you like a rom that is a port of another device or a rom built from source using the same version of android?
I say our very own honeycomb will do!

brutusbucknuts said:
I'm sure its only a matter of time before someone yells at us for talking about honeycomb in a forum, but I too am curious about that. I know that Roebeet was answering some questions on another honeycomb thread, which I really appreciate. Seems to me, now that honeycomb is right around the corner, that some discussion about what must be done to get honeycomb on our g tabs would be useful.
Is anyone who checks this forum getting a Xoom? It would be great if a developer could let us know what might be needed from a xoom to begin work on a gtab honeycomb rom (if it is even possible). Im much more hopeful now after learning about the unlockable bootloader. I'm not asking for honeycomb tomorrow by any means, but am very curious about what steps would need to be taken to get honeycomb on the gtab. Thanks for any help!
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I'm getting a xoom tomorrow and i'm pretty adventurous so if there's anything I can do to help just let me know.

Legacy2385 said:
I'm getting a xoom tomorrow and i'm pretty adventurous so if there's anything I can do to help just let me know.
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I am also getting a Xoom tomorrow but definitely not throwing out the gtablet as it is one of the best learning development tools I have owned. I will probably be a bit more cautious with the xoom out of the gate just because of the cost, but guaranteed I will be testing Honeycomb ROMS on the gtablet as soon as they are available.

Here is the Xoom build.prop thanks to thefredelement

Guys,
Have at it ! Here is the Xoom build.prop thanks to thefredelement... Give him a HUGE thanks for sharing this
Just download it; then extract the zip file and there you go!!!
Thanks again thefredelement !!!

Does this mean we will have honeycomb soon or do we still need the drivers from nvidia?

You still need a boot.img. Just so you know people have had access to the xoom for more than a week already and have been working on this.

Thanks, but based on the early indications this fingerprint will actually cause the market to shrink rather than expand. It is interesting to read though as it specifically states nosdcard, and does include the telephony stuff, if nothing else there is potential that once we have a honeycomb port 3G usb modem drivers may become available.

I just posted this so we could take a look at what was in it... it is a good read if nothing else ;-)

thebadfrog said:
You still need a boot.img. Just so you know people have had access to the xoom for more than a week already and have been working on this.
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I would have thanked you but I've exceeded my max per didn't know there was a maximum. You learn something new everyday.
Anyways, it's also my understanding that to get the boot.img, the Xoom will need to be rooted. Is that correct? So, is that what we should be really looking for? Xoom has been rooted threads?

Look for "Rom based on Honeycomb". And yes it needs root. It will happen people. Posting endless honeycomb threads is not gonna make it any faster.

Ok I'm kind of a noob, please don't slam me 'frog. Since the whole purpose of Android and the whole Open Source thing is to make source available, don't either Motorola, nVidia or Google NEED to release this Honeycomb-Tegra 2 code at some point. I do realize that there may be proprietary pieces but I thought once you used open source code, you were obliged to release your resulting code to the community. Am I missing something here or is all this chatter just an attempt to get it faster?
I hate seeing all of the teaser threads as well, but I also try to keep an open mind and view it more as humorous than obnoxious. I'm sure the real dev's are quite adept at skipping and ignoring the stupid comments by people like me.
I'm just saying ...

thebadfrog said:
Look for "Rom based on Honeycomb". And yes it needs root. It will happen people. Posting endless honeycomb threads is not gonna make it any faster.
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Lol. I shouldn't have posted the last two sentences. It's not like I was saying that I was being impatient. Just wanted to learn that's all.
I'm assuming we'll see a lot of the bits and pieces of the XOOM system posted in here and just wanted to know what's relevant or not.
Thanks again.

Its all good. I understand people wanna learn.
Yes they have to release anything that is open source but if you use linux you can use the nvidea and ati example. They don't release their proprietary libs for their cards and as a result its quite likely when you upgrade your kernel you break your video drivers. Its not so bad now but a couple years ago I couldnt keep an ati card working.
All the endless threads that are repeats make it nearly impossible for noobs to find good information and it makes it harder for me to link the correct posts for noobs to follow. Everyone was new at one time but you will never learn anything if you keep asking and not looking. This is a developer forum....xda DEVELOPERS.... not a customer service forum. Most devs here go out of their way to answer questions as do a few of us power users. My tirades are not directed at people like the 2 previous posts. Its the ones that dont want help. They want someone to hold there hand and type out each and every command for them and supply them a fix for every problem. And they want it now

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Ok I'm kind of a noob, please don't slam me 'frog. Since the whole purpose of Android and the whole Open Source thing is to make source available, don't either Motorola, nVidia or Google NEED to release this Honeycomb-Tegra 2 code at some point. I do realize that there may be proprietary pieces but I thought once you used open source code, you were obliged to release your resulting code to the community. Am I missing something here or is all this chatter just an attempt to get it faster?
I hate seeing all of the teaser threads as well, but I also try to keep an open mind and view it more as humorous than obnoxious. I'm sure the real dev's are quite adept at skipping and ignoring the stupid comments by people like me.
I'm just saying ...
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Typically one week is the lead time afforded the trail blazing device for each generation of Android, and then the plain vanilla source AOSP is posted at source.android.com (read about git first, where the kernel is posted). However none of the proprietary information in specific devices needs to be made available right away.

Will th devs that made the honeynook sdk preview be able to update that if they get a Xoom, amd in turn would that help the g tab devs?

I'm just curious about how much of a problem the fact that the XOOM has a Gig of system ram rather than 512 megs will be. I could see an easy way to protect some exclusivity under the guise of "ensuring compatibility" where one of the first boot steps is to check for enough available ram...

Good thing my Zpad has 1 gig ram then eh

boot img and tegra 2 aosp source here
http://android.modaco.com/content/advent-vega-vega-modaco-com/333138/xoom-rootboot-img/#entry1614605
I think.

Alpha06 said:
boot img and tegra 2 aosp source here
http://android.modaco.com/content/advent-vega-vega-modaco-com/333138/xoom-rootboot-img/#entry1614605
I think.
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It's a Xoom boot.img, and the (tegra 2) kernel source for honeycomb (2.6.36).

Ok, per Engadget Xoom has been rooted... Next?

Here are the init files as well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11615922&postcount=9
You can get a rooted boot image here: http://www.koushikdutta.com/2011/02/motorola-xoom-rooted.html

Love it when things start moving at nearly the speed of light,... uh oh, getting dizzy... frog, will you hold my hand?

MikeTheSith200 said:
Will th devs that made the honeynook sdk preview be able to update that if they get a Xoom, amd in turn would that help the g tab devs?
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The Nook is so heavily supported because it's so god damn cheap for a tablet. (it's really an "e-reader")
there was no touch interface released with the version of honeycomb from the preview sdk.
With a real Honeycomb product (and full SDK) full development is possible.
If you wait, They will build it, we will come. =]

Beta honeycomb port for Gtablet available.

There is a semi working port of honeycomb for the g-tablet available from the below link. I looked through the threads and could find no mention of this.
http://rom-honeycomb-for-gtab-12.com/

brainyjd said:
There is a semi working port of honeycomb for the g-tablet available from the below link. I looked through the threads and could find no mention of this.
http://rom-honeycomb-for-gtab.com/
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Most of the threads regarding this are in the G tablet General forum...

brainyjd said:
There is a semi working port of honeycomb for the g-tablet available from the below link. I looked through the threads and could find no mention of this.
http://rom-honeycomb-for-gtab-12.com/
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You need to look harder.
The thing is, because its not being developed/released on xda its not mentioned in the Development section.

sorry - It makes sense that this is not in the dev thread
It makes sense that this is not in the dev thread but it is big news and I skim for new post every day in the dev section and did not see any. Sorry I wish I could delete this post.

brainyjd said:
There is a semi working port of honeycomb for the g-tablet available from the below link. I looked through the threads and could find no mention of this.
http://rom-honeycomb-for-gtab.com/
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It's actually still in ALPHA not Beta

Not development. Moved to general.

It's here, and looks great but some features dont work.. still great
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065220

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Not development. Moved to general.
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I'm curious about this since the project obviously IS development, but is being moved to General every time a thread references it.
Is this happening because Roebeet is now, for some reason no one has shared, persona non grata around here?
I mean, I guess it makes sense if he is no longer part of the XDA "family" but it still seems kind of silly.

I believe it is because the DEVELOPMENT is happening elsewhere.
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nunjabusiness said:
I'm curious about this since the project obviously IS development, but is being moved to General every time a thread references it.
Is this happening because Roebeet is now, for some reason no one has shared, persona non grata around here?
I mean, I guess it makes sense if he is no longer part of the XDA "family" but it still seems kind of silly.
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It's not that at all..
Development is for the actual development of something and by the developer of that something, not the discussion of things being developed elsewhere regardless of who is developing it.
A good example.....CM7, the primary source tree for all Gingerbread built ROMs on the Gtablet is discussed in General as well because CyanogenMod is not posting their development and issues....it's others just talking about it.
The easiest way to think of it is that the development forum section is for a developer to post on their work and get feedback.
If it's not your work and you aren't doing the "developing" on it.....post it in General.

This really makes me want to punch whoever that drove roebeet away. Seriously, the guy is as dedicated as you can expect any dev who's doing this out of pure hobbyist enthusiasm.
The guy actually spent his valuable time to give us honeycream. Whoever that accused roebeet of any ill intention and effectively drove him away, shame on you. You should go and buy an ipad and leave us gtabbers alone.

When you think about it viewsonic made this all possible by releasing the 1.2 bl. In the end they have given us honey creams...
The honey comb port is from another device that uses a compatible or similar bl.
Roebeet is simply ironing out the gtab specific bugs. But therew are numerous bugs, so his work is much appreciated.
I definitely hate following the development on an outside site from xda. Because I love this community. But it is what it is.
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goodintentions said:
This really makes me want to punch whoever that drove roebeet away. Seriously, the guy is as dedicated as you can expect any dev who's doing this out of pure hobbyist enthusiasm.
The guy actually spent his valuable time to give us honeycream. Whoever that accused roebeet of any ill intention and effectively drove him away, shame on you. You should go and buy an ipad and leave us gtabbers alone.
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Well said goodintentions !!
I don't agree with some of your posts,
but this one I can't agree more.

goodintentions said:
This really makes me want to punch whoever that drove roebeet away. Seriously, the guy is as dedicated as you can expect any dev who's doing this out of pure hobbyist enthusiasm.
The guy actually spent his valuable time to give us honeycream. Whoever that accused roebeet of any ill intention and effectively drove him away, shame on you. You should go and buy an ipad and leave us gtabbers alone.
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You can find him on slate droid and he is working on honeycomb.

Last edited by jerdog; Today at 02:00 PM. Reason: Against XDA rules to direct traffic to another tablet/forum site
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Really Jerdog?
I think you take this too far. Just being a jerk now.
I guess you will be removing all links to CM7 huh? Isn't that another tablet/phone/forum site? Those DEV's don't post/host their projects here.
I've never really taken sides in this little spat, but I think this is childish.
It's not like this is just one of many CM7 derivatives. It's the only bootable HC image I know of for the G-tab at this moment. Whatever flaws, issues, malfunctions it may have, many in these forums would like to play around.

This is an amazing rom for an alpha!
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Zaphod-Beeblebrox said:
It's not like this is just one of many CM7 derivatives. It's the only bootable HC image I know of for the G-tab at this moment. Whatever flaws, issues, malfunctions it may have, many in these forums would like to play around.
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Don't worry its all over the General section right now
XDA is merely reaping what some of its members/mods have planted (see: roebeet vs. XDA regarding 1.2 bl), and the more they continue to make a big issue about it the more the members will be trafficking and directing others traffic outside XDA.
Zaphod-Beeblebrox said:
It's the only bootable HC image I know of for the G-tab at this moment. Whatever flaws, issues, malfunctions it may have, many in these forums would like to play around.
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Thats not the issue here (IMHO), the thing is , everyone who wants to try this ROM needs to load 1.2bl, this just proves that 1.2bl was the way to go (as suggested a month or two ago). The 1.1 <-> 1.2 switch just to try honeycomb will drive many users (at one point or another) to keep using the semi-backed, still alpha, HC release to avoid the overhead of the switch (especially given the rate of advances made in the HC port and bricking risk involved in jumping back and forth). Now all the current ROM developers (in clear contradiction to what XDA advocated) will need to either release 1.2 compatible ROMs or risk loss of interest.

Now all the current ROM developers (in clear contradiction to what XDA advocated) will need to either release 1.2 compatible ROMs or risk loss of interest.
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I originally thought that they didn't want to do this becuase they will then have wasted all that time on the 1.1 Roms that are still in development...but then something dawned on me. Roebeet was able to port 3 existing Roms, all that he worked on, to 1.2. One based on TNT lite, one based on Gadam, and one (and probably best Rom I've ever used) based on Vegan. Keep in mind, he had all 3 of these up and running in about 2 days. He's actually been working on all of those, the HC port, and general 1.2 tools all at the same time. He's created direct and simple processes to flash to 1.2, a revised CWM for it, has Pershoot and Clemsyn on board with kernels.
Call me a fanboi, etc...but the man has really put in some major time on the 1.2 projects.

aasoror said:
Don't worry its all over the General section right now
XDA is merely reaping what some of its members/mods have planted (see: roebeet vs. XDA regarding 1.2 bl), and the more they continue to make a big issue about it the more the members will be trafficking and directing others traffic outside XDA.
Thats not the issue here (IMHO), the thing is , everyone who wants to try this ROM needs to load 1.2bl, this just proves that 1.2bl was the way to go (as suggested a month or two ago). The 1.1 <-> 1.2 switch just to try honeycomb will drive many users (at one point or another) to keep using the semi-backed, still alpha, HC release to avoid the overhead of the switch (especially given the rate of advances made in the HC port and bricking risk involved in jumping back and forth). Now all the current ROM developers (in clear contradiction to what XDA advocated) will need to either release 1.2 compatible ROMs or risk loss of interest.
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TJEvans said:
I originally thought that they didn't want to do this becuase they will then have wasted all that time on the 1.1 Roms that are still in development...but then something dawned on me. Roebeet was able to port 3 existing Roms, all that he worked on, to 1.2. One based on TNT lite, one based on Gadam, and one (and probably best Rom I've ever used) based on Vegan. Keep in mind, he had all 3 of these up and running in about 2 days. He's actually been working on all of those, the HC port, and general 1.2 tools all at the same time. He's created direct and simple processes to flash to 1.2, a revised CWM for it, has Pershoot and Clemsyn on board with kernels.
Call me a fanboi, etc...but the man has really put in some major time on the 1.2 projects.
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The whole 1.1/1.2 bootloader thing is stupid and melodramatic. There is little difference, and no real reason to use one vs the other. As builds from Malata get released, this will likely be a non-issue. sooner or later a 'standard' will emerge. Time takes care of this.
As for this 'overhead' between switching, its a fairly simple process to nvFlash. I think we forget that this is an enthusiasts and developers site. There are plenty of threads/articles explaining how to do it. This ain't Viewsonic Tech support. If you can't read these threads and learn how to do this, you really shouldn't be toying with the firmware to start with.

Zaphod-Beeblebrox said:
The whole 1.1/1.2 bootloader thing is stupid and melodramatic. There is little difference, and no real reason to use one vs the other. As builds from Malata get released, this will likely be a non-issue. sooner or later a 'standard' will emerge. Time takes care of this.
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At the moment there is a few good reasons to use 1.2. The main one is HoneyComb . But it has been found that the 1.2 for the Adam is interchangeable with our 1.2. The adam developers have said they are working on a gingerbread release which means that 1.2 will be the way to get acceleration on a gingerbread rom.
Sure at the moment, if you don't feel like playing around with Honeycomb which is only partially working (I can't believe how much progress has been made in the last 2 days), there is no real reason to switch today. But, it looks like the best of what will come out in the near future is on 1.2 which can only be found on a different web site currently.

[Q] Why is there no ICS development thread for XOOM

Is there any developmental ROM's being worked on for the XOOM wifi?? It seems this would have been the forst working port or AOSP development being the device is pure google.

Solarnz is working on it. He has a video on youtube showing it pseudo working. Radios aren't working but it boots lol. The thread is in the general section somewhere.
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First off, unfortunately, I don't see much development of any kind for the Xoom -let alone an ICS ROM. Secondly, the good news is -we are at the top of the queue for an official ICS release. This maybe why no one is bothering to step-up to the plate.

I kinda figured that..yeah it's ad we have probably one of the sweetest and most powerful tablets yet we get shunned like a KIRF from Engadget. Upsets me sometimes to see the editorials and things about us like we are not AOSP and dual core with 10inch screen,,Like were a Touch Sensitive, plastic screened hacked piece of crap...
Glad to know someone is working on a build finally. This by far should have been the easiest build out of them all as it was built on our tablets to begin with.

Well I don't think it was built for the tegra 2, so that is an issue that has to be ironed out. Plus, I am sure there are some driver issues that need to be worked out. I'd assume once an official ICS build comes out for us that will help with the drivers to get everything working. I wouldn't put it past the devs working it now to have done before the official build.
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Everyone at engadget is an ijob so I wouldn't worry about those hipsters. The verge is much better imo anyways. Still love engadget though it has biased writers. lol

double1 said:
Everyone at engadget is an ijob so I wouldn't worry about those hipsters. The verge is much better imo anyways. Still love engadget though it has biased writers. lol
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I loved the Josh Topolsky-era Engadget more. I met him at an NYC meetup. Cool dude. I was looking for that site he started up but forgot the name so thanks for that! Apparently, quite a few former Engadget writers followed Josh over to The Verge.
As for being iJobs, that condescending quiff Johnathan Geller, aka The BOY Genius, is a shameless Apple fanBOY. If you went to his site for a review about a product from one of Apple's competitors you could have gotten a more objective review from Steve Jobs himself (R.I.P Steve).
My apologies for the impromptu rant

jaekidd1012 said:
I loved the Josh Topolsky-era Engadget more. I met him at an NYC meetup. Cool dude. I was looking for that site he started up but forgot the name so thanks for that! Apparently, quite a few former Engadget writers followed Josh over to The Verge.
As for being iJobs, that condescending quiff Johnathan Geller, aka The BOY Genius, is a shameless Apple fanBOY. If you went to his site for a review about a product from one of Apple's competitors you could have gotten a more objective review from Steve Jobs himself (R.I.P Steve).
My apologies for the impromptu rant
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I enjoyed it.

double1 said:
Everyone at engadget is an ijob so I wouldn't worry about those hipsters. The verge is much better imo anyways. Still love engadget though it has biased writers. lol
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The hipsters and ijobs all left engadget for the verge, in my opinion. If anything they seem less biased now since the exodus...
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The AOSP 4.0 that's out there now isn't optimized for tegra and doesn't include any device support for any tegra devices, so the devs are stuck using Honeycomb binaries for some parts for now. That's left things in a semi-working state, which we are dilligently trying to hack around, but not much more progress is probably going to be made until google and nvidia release source that is truly compatible with the Xoom. It's Google/Nvidia more than Motorola here.
I'll add sources on request, but google specifically nvidia's november 30th statement about the xoom ICS source, and look at dev threads for other tegra tablets (on here and Tabletroms.com).

Ianas said:
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The hipsters and ijobs all left engadget for the verge, in my opinion. If anything they seem less biased now since the exodus...
On Topic:
The AOSP 4.0 that's out there now isn't optimized for tegra and doesn't include any device support for any tegra devices, so the devs are stuck using Honeycomb binaries for some parts for now. That's left things in a semi-working state, which we are dilligently trying to hack around, but not much more progress is probably going to be made until google and nvidia release source that is truly compatible with the Xoom. It's Google/Nvidia more than Motorola here.
I'll add sources on request, but google specifically nvidia's november 30th statement about the xoom ICS source, and look at dev threads for other tegra tablets (on here and Tabletroms.com).
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Thank you so much. Makes a lot more sense now. Google released a source that will work with the xoom now on the 16th.
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Now you can find ics development threads:
ICS Wifi
ICS 3G/4G

yiiisch said:
Now you can find ics development threads:
ICS Wifi
ICS 3G/4G
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Those aren't really end user ready via just a flashable file. So I'll wait. But yes it is exciting..
Guess we can close this thread now.
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That's not exactly true. I flashed it and it's really pretty good, even with some things still not working and no over locking, etc. I thought I would wait for the Team Tiamat version, but decided to just try it out and I'm glad I did. I feel even more excited to see what bigrushdog and solarnz come up with now.

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