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There is a semi working port of honeycomb for the g-tablet available from the below link. I looked through the threads and could find no mention of this.
http://rom-honeycomb-for-gtab-12.com/
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There is a semi working port of honeycomb for the g-tablet available from the below link. I looked through the threads and could find no mention of this.
http://rom-honeycomb-for-gtab.com/
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Most of the threads regarding this are in the G tablet General forum...
brainyjd said:
There is a semi working port of honeycomb for the g-tablet available from the below link. I looked through the threads and could find no mention of this.
http://rom-honeycomb-for-gtab-12.com/
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You need to look harder.
The thing is, because its not being developed/released on xda its not mentioned in the Development section.
sorry - It makes sense that this is not in the dev thread
It makes sense that this is not in the dev thread but it is big news and I skim for new post every day in the dev section and did not see any. Sorry I wish I could delete this post.
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There is a semi working port of honeycomb for the g-tablet available from the below link. I looked through the threads and could find no mention of this.
http://rom-honeycomb-for-gtab.com/
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It's actually still in ALPHA not Beta
Not development. Moved to general.
It's here, and looks great but some features dont work.. still great
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065220
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I'm curious about this since the project obviously IS development, but is being moved to General every time a thread references it.
Is this happening because Roebeet is now, for some reason no one has shared, persona non grata around here?
I mean, I guess it makes sense if he is no longer part of the XDA "family" but it still seems kind of silly.
I believe it is because the DEVELOPMENT is happening elsewhere.
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nunjabusiness said:
I'm curious about this since the project obviously IS development, but is being moved to General every time a thread references it.
Is this happening because Roebeet is now, for some reason no one has shared, persona non grata around here?
I mean, I guess it makes sense if he is no longer part of the XDA "family" but it still seems kind of silly.
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It's not that at all..
Development is for the actual development of something and by the developer of that something, not the discussion of things being developed elsewhere regardless of who is developing it.
A good example.....CM7, the primary source tree for all Gingerbread built ROMs on the Gtablet is discussed in General as well because CyanogenMod is not posting their development and issues....it's others just talking about it.
The easiest way to think of it is that the development forum section is for a developer to post on their work and get feedback.
If it's not your work and you aren't doing the "developing" on it.....post it in General.
This really makes me want to punch whoever that drove roebeet away. Seriously, the guy is as dedicated as you can expect any dev who's doing this out of pure hobbyist enthusiasm.
The guy actually spent his valuable time to give us honeycream. Whoever that accused roebeet of any ill intention and effectively drove him away, shame on you. You should go and buy an ipad and leave us gtabbers alone.
When you think about it viewsonic made this all possible by releasing the 1.2 bl. In the end they have given us honey creams...
The honey comb port is from another device that uses a compatible or similar bl.
Roebeet is simply ironing out the gtab specific bugs. But therew are numerous bugs, so his work is much appreciated.
I definitely hate following the development on an outside site from xda. Because I love this community. But it is what it is.
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This really makes me want to punch whoever that drove roebeet away. Seriously, the guy is as dedicated as you can expect any dev who's doing this out of pure hobbyist enthusiasm.
The guy actually spent his valuable time to give us honeycream. Whoever that accused roebeet of any ill intention and effectively drove him away, shame on you. You should go and buy an ipad and leave us gtabbers alone.
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Well said goodintentions !!
I don't agree with some of your posts,
but this one I can't agree more.
goodintentions said:
This really makes me want to punch whoever that drove roebeet away. Seriously, the guy is as dedicated as you can expect any dev who's doing this out of pure hobbyist enthusiasm.
The guy actually spent his valuable time to give us honeycream. Whoever that accused roebeet of any ill intention and effectively drove him away, shame on you. You should go and buy an ipad and leave us gtabbers alone.
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You can find him on slate droid and he is working on honeycomb.
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Really Jerdog?
I think you take this too far. Just being a jerk now.
I guess you will be removing all links to CM7 huh? Isn't that another tablet/phone/forum site? Those DEV's don't post/host their projects here.
I've never really taken sides in this little spat, but I think this is childish.
It's not like this is just one of many CM7 derivatives. It's the only bootable HC image I know of for the G-tab at this moment. Whatever flaws, issues, malfunctions it may have, many in these forums would like to play around.
This is an amazing rom for an alpha!
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Zaphod-Beeblebrox said:
It's not like this is just one of many CM7 derivatives. It's the only bootable HC image I know of for the G-tab at this moment. Whatever flaws, issues, malfunctions it may have, many in these forums would like to play around.
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Don't worry its all over the General section right now
XDA is merely reaping what some of its members/mods have planted (see: roebeet vs. XDA regarding 1.2 bl), and the more they continue to make a big issue about it the more the members will be trafficking and directing others traffic outside XDA.
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It's the only bootable HC image I know of for the G-tab at this moment. Whatever flaws, issues, malfunctions it may have, many in these forums would like to play around.
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Thats not the issue here (IMHO), the thing is , everyone who wants to try this ROM needs to load 1.2bl, this just proves that 1.2bl was the way to go (as suggested a month or two ago). The 1.1 <-> 1.2 switch just to try honeycomb will drive many users (at one point or another) to keep using the semi-backed, still alpha, HC release to avoid the overhead of the switch (especially given the rate of advances made in the HC port and bricking risk involved in jumping back and forth). Now all the current ROM developers (in clear contradiction to what XDA advocated) will need to either release 1.2 compatible ROMs or risk loss of interest.
Now all the current ROM developers (in clear contradiction to what XDA advocated) will need to either release 1.2 compatible ROMs or risk loss of interest.
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I originally thought that they didn't want to do this becuase they will then have wasted all that time on the 1.1 Roms that are still in development...but then something dawned on me. Roebeet was able to port 3 existing Roms, all that he worked on, to 1.2. One based on TNT lite, one based on Gadam, and one (and probably best Rom I've ever used) based on Vegan. Keep in mind, he had all 3 of these up and running in about 2 days. He's actually been working on all of those, the HC port, and general 1.2 tools all at the same time. He's created direct and simple processes to flash to 1.2, a revised CWM for it, has Pershoot and Clemsyn on board with kernels.
Call me a fanboi, etc...but the man has really put in some major time on the 1.2 projects.
aasoror said:
Don't worry its all over the General section right now
XDA is merely reaping what some of its members/mods have planted (see: roebeet vs. XDA regarding 1.2 bl), and the more they continue to make a big issue about it the more the members will be trafficking and directing others traffic outside XDA.
Thats not the issue here (IMHO), the thing is , everyone who wants to try this ROM needs to load 1.2bl, this just proves that 1.2bl was the way to go (as suggested a month or two ago). The 1.1 <-> 1.2 switch just to try honeycomb will drive many users (at one point or another) to keep using the semi-backed, still alpha, HC release to avoid the overhead of the switch (especially given the rate of advances made in the HC port and bricking risk involved in jumping back and forth). Now all the current ROM developers (in clear contradiction to what XDA advocated) will need to either release 1.2 compatible ROMs or risk loss of interest.
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I originally thought that they didn't want to do this becuase they will then have wasted all that time on the 1.1 Roms that are still in development...but then something dawned on me. Roebeet was able to port 3 existing Roms, all that he worked on, to 1.2. One based on TNT lite, one based on Gadam, and one (and probably best Rom I've ever used) based on Vegan. Keep in mind, he had all 3 of these up and running in about 2 days. He's actually been working on all of those, the HC port, and general 1.2 tools all at the same time. He's created direct and simple processes to flash to 1.2, a revised CWM for it, has Pershoot and Clemsyn on board with kernels.
Call me a fanboi, etc...but the man has really put in some major time on the 1.2 projects.
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The whole 1.1/1.2 bootloader thing is stupid and melodramatic. There is little difference, and no real reason to use one vs the other. As builds from Malata get released, this will likely be a non-issue. sooner or later a 'standard' will emerge. Time takes care of this.
As for this 'overhead' between switching, its a fairly simple process to nvFlash. I think we forget that this is an enthusiasts and developers site. There are plenty of threads/articles explaining how to do it. This ain't Viewsonic Tech support. If you can't read these threads and learn how to do this, you really shouldn't be toying with the firmware to start with.
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The whole 1.1/1.2 bootloader thing is stupid and melodramatic. There is little difference, and no real reason to use one vs the other. As builds from Malata get released, this will likely be a non-issue. sooner or later a 'standard' will emerge. Time takes care of this.
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At the moment there is a few good reasons to use 1.2. The main one is HoneyComb . But it has been found that the 1.2 for the Adam is interchangeable with our 1.2. The adam developers have said they are working on a gingerbread release which means that 1.2 will be the way to get acceleration on a gingerbread rom.
Sure at the moment, if you don't feel like playing around with Honeycomb which is only partially working (I can't believe how much progress has been made in the last 2 days), there is no real reason to switch today. But, it looks like the best of what will come out in the near future is on 1.2 which can only be found on a different web site currently.
is there any possibility that ICS rom is ported to INFUSE 4G?
Fail...you know what, I'm not going to flame you. How about you go to the other bajillion threads on noobs asking for ICS and consider the flaming there "yours."
And you'd think after being a member since 09, you would read first...
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Fail...you know what, I'm not going to flame you. How about you go to the other bajillion threads on noobs asking for ICS and consider the flaming there "yours."
And you'd think after being a member since 09, you would read first...
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Will Samsung release an ICS update For us
No
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What about a "leak"
No...lol
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What about a "leak"
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You can't have ice cream until you're done eating yogurt. When you're full, you can have gingerbread. After gingerbread, you can trade it in for a Captivate and put ice cream on it.
Or just buy a phone that is actually supported by samy... Us Infusers are just going to be perpetually left out of the freezer... No sammiches for us
problem around here is the developers never wanted to work with what we have. froyo alone has a ton of potential left in it but with Sammy dangling gb in our faces the devs that made the infuse what it is just got to a point that it was a waiting game and they got tired of waiting. I think the best plan is to work with what we have and make the most out of it. stop jerking around wanting what's not there and just make the most of what is there. froyo on the galaxy s was miles beyond the infuse to the point I was uneasy about upgrading to gb on my cappy.
infuse owners have to realize the infuse has an expiration date. next time get an international flasgship or something closely related to it, that or a nexus where you will have updates for several years coming.
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problem around here is the developers never wanted to work with what we have. froyo alone has a ton of potential left in it but with Sammy dangling gb in our faces the devs that made the infuse what it is just got to a point that it was a waiting game and they got tired of waiting. I think the best plan is to work with what we have and make the most out of it. stop jerking around wanting what's not there and just make the most of what is there. froyo on the galaxy s was miles beyond the infuse to the point I was uneasy about upgrading to gb on my cappy.
infuse owners have to realize the infuse has an expiration date. next time get an international flasgship or something closely related to it, that or a nexus where you will have updates for several years coming.
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Hey, everyone, I just thought I'd help translate some jargon for the n00bz ... It'd look amateur without it, like a map without a color key, you know?
around here: xda-developers.com, one website and, really, only a little section of it.
froyo: three versions ago in the operating system of topic
jerking around wanting what's not there: asking for current software (...the nerve!!)
sammy: Samsung Electronics Co., or its $220bn parent company Samsung Group (total 2010 revenue)
dangling gb: Samsung's apparent plans to produce, release, and support Android v.2.3, Gingerbread ("gb")
cappy: Samsung Captivate, released July 2010 in U.S.
"froyo ... miles beyond the infuse" : Unintelligible
Okay, I hope I did a good job. Now, if the n00bz keep asking questions, we can do them the service of making our language transparent! Why they won't just get it is astounding... I mean, who would ask questions about new software, anyway?? Just blows my mind... and who could make the mistake of thinking there might be a straight answer about something promising, that is, the new practical features of Ice Cream Sandwich (Android v.4) on a forum dweller's tongue is just plain offensive! Enduring such ignorance is hard, but I suppose it's a must. Live & let live... keep up the tolerance, fellow Infusers.
point taken I guess. what is annoying is the xda moderators have 2 search engines. on is xda wide Google assisted and the other is forum/thread based, not only that but when you create a new thread it suggests threads on similar topics you should read before posting the thread right in your face. yet this will not be the last ics request or "is it available" thread... but I wasn't gonna go there.
as far as ics. it needs a really talented dev to find ways to interface the proprietary stuff from gb to ics. even if we got a bootable version it would possibly be months before it was usable as more than a music player. the galaxy s is very lucky to have a number of talented devs and a closer relationship to the nexus s. even though the rom end could be taken from the galaxy s the kernel would be a big undertaking due to different GPS, Bluetooth, radio, screen, and other componants.
Hm .. lots to think about, there .
Holding these abandoned devices in your hand makes you pine daily for updates on developers' progress toward what would appear to be inevitable. If it isn't, it is a commercial atrocity
By "interface," there, do you mean device emulation or rewritten device drivers? i'm attempting to assess the nature of the challenge, less so its magnitude. i do appreciate both this and the frustration with lazy users.
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Hm .. lots to think about, there .
Holding these abandoned devices in your hand makes you pine daily for updates on developers' progress toward what would appear to be inevitable. If it isn't, it is a commercial atrocity
By "interface," there, do you mean device emulation or rewritten device drivers? i'm attempting to assess the nature of the challenge, less so its magnitude. i do appreciate both this and the frustration with lazy users.
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it could be emulation or I guess some kind of wrapper. like how Linux can use windows wifi drivers on a PC. driver rewrites need source code and/or documentation I would think.
I don't know the technical details but I know entropy has brought up things that have changed that may be hard to port. maybe if the cm9 team actually had an infuse. they have some real talent but the problem is getting it in the hands of an interested member of the team.
we lucked out with Linux bozo but I don't think its typical for a device to get a cm port without the cm team having involvement if the kernel is unique. on many older HTC phones kernels are somewhat cross compatible so those phones are a little more able to share development.
who releases kernels
! Who is responsible for developing/releasing kernels ???
For ics, no one
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For ifs, no one
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If someone could come to us, then it would be great. I was thinking maybe we could get DA_G to come over, except idk if he would want to deal with such hard hardware. And to people saying cm9, we do not necissarily need that. Any kind of aosp would be nice.
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If someone could come to us, then it would be great. I was thinking maybe we could get DA_G to come over, except idk if he would want to deal with such hard hardware. And to people saying cm9, we do not necissarily need that. Any kind of aosp would be nice.
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I know but come on really, I mess around with what others build and I have also have a sky, I don't submit my stuff because frankly half the time it sucks, and I don't have the time to mess with bugs, I've been building rom since windows 5.1 and I can tell you that ics would suck on this phone, not enough ram, yes you can do it but, it would suck
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Zeus 6 with ics revamped theme, or are you looking for legit ics?
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I know but come on really, I mess around with what others build and I have also have a sky, I don't submit my stuff because frankly half the time it sucks, and I don't have the time to mess with bugs, I've been building rom since windows 5.1 and I can tell you that ics would suck on this phone, not enough ram, yes you can do it but, it would suck
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432100 proof it can be done... and it looks nice haha.
I know it can, but it seems pointless, but I guess we are here to test, so I was wrong in my comment
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OK for all you haters. http://developer.nvidia.com/tegra-resources
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Score!!!! F you LG we don't need you anymore.
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You should do a search before posting. That is not source for our device.
That's a start, can't help but knock people down. Yeah, I know it's O2x dumb ass.
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No, it's not O2X either, so knock off the attitude.
That is the development page for the reference Tegra 250 kit, and it's been around for a long time.
The O2X/G2X use the Tegra 250 AP20H. Nvidia has already stated that it's up to LG to release code specific to our phones.
I was saying you should search because that link has been posted tons of times.
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That's a start, can't help but knock people down. Yeah, I know it's O2x dumb ass.
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please know what you're talking about before trying to insult people.
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I'll admit u got me.... these type of posts need to stop, get hopes up.
NVIDIA NEVER AGAIN!
This looks legit, it was posted a couple days ago, read this:
http://developer.nvidia.com/content/android-40-ics-os-images-tegra-android-available
It includes this:
"Tegra Android Ice Cream Sandwich (4.0) OS Image for Ventana"
The Tegra 2 "Ventana" development kit is targeted at developers creating software for Android 2.2 "Froyo" and above.
Hence, the "Tegra" it is talking about is Tegra 2
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This looks legit, it was posted a couple days ago, read this:
http://developer.nvidia.com/content/android-40-ics-os-images-tegra-android-available
It includes this:
"Tegra Android Ice Cream Sandwich (4.0) OS Image for Ventana"
The Tegra 2 "Ventana" development kit is targeted at developers creating software for Android 2.2 "Froyo" and above.
Hence, the "Tegra" it is talking about is Tegra 2
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No. Ventana is what's used primarily in Tablets. We have "Harmony."
I don't see why you guys are getting mad? It was a simple mistake. No need to bash on this guy for trying to help.
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I don't see why you guys are getting mad? It was a simple mistake. No need to bash on this guy for trying to help.
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I wasn't bashing him and neither was anyone else. He (the op)called a guy a dumb ass because he told him its not the right driver lol.
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Cmon devs!
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This thread is funny.....rookies never learn
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I'll admit u got me.... these type of posts need to stop, get hopes up.
NVIDIA NEVER AGAIN!
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I don't see why you guys are getting mad? It was a simple mistake. No need to bash on this guy for trying to help.
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I agree. I mean realistically I'm sure the devs will be the first to know when source or drivers get released, but but don't squash a guy for being enthusiastic and trying to be helpful.
First, I would like to apologize for lowering to a level I have tried to remove from these forums. I have been in this game quite awhile and I've learned one thing for sure, being polite and helpful get the best results. I come originally from the lowly Huawei ascend and I'll tell you, that phone has a great community and still sees support and it hit eol more than 6 months ago. We as a group decided our own fate when WE pushed our devs to lock our ICS thread. This is our device and our forums and we are responsible for building a sense of community. As it is now, I cringe to check my own threads because I know they will be bloodgened with haters and "you're wrong, I'm right ". We should all try to encourage one another and promote how awesome our device is, which brings me to this... Why use these forums to bash the g2x? All the complaining and whining is why t-Mobile bailed out. I am a collision tech for highline vehicles, do you have any idea how much service a Ferrari requires to keep it running? I seriously doubt Enzo Ferrari endured customers calling to tell him what a pos his cars are(I know he's dead) Lastly, I happen to be a successful writer for another website, I happen to be a weath of knowledge with a lot of connections. I have been been working my butt off to help a certain group of devs get a certain app working on our device, all I'll say is those of us that are flashing addicts will appreciate this app. I get things done through kindness and support. I would love to see that sense of community here, lets face it, we ALL use these forums. Thank you so much all devs that have stuck it out with us, our device would be worthless without you, sincerely, artifintel.
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He called him a.......dumb ass? Gulp! I swear its a bunch of children on here. I know most of us get called worse than that on a daily basis.
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First, I would like to apologize for lowering to a level I have tried to remove from these forums. I have been in this game quite awhile and I've learned one thing for sure, being polite and helpful get the best results. I come originally from the lowly Huawei ascend and I'll tell you, that phone has a great community and still sees support and it hit eol more than 6 months ago. We as a group decided our own fate when WE pushed our devs to lock our ICS thread. This is our device and our forums and we are responsible for building a sense of community. As it is now, I cringe to check my own threads because I know they will be bloodgened with haters and "you're wrong, I'm right ". We should all try to encourage one another and promote how awesome our device is, which brings me to this... Why use these forums to bash the g2x? All the complaining and whining is why t-Mobile bailed out. I am a collision tech for highline vehicles, do you have any idea how much service a Ferrari requires to keep it running? I seriously doubt Enzo Ferrari endured customers calling to tell him what a pos his cars are(I know he's dead) Lastly, I happen to be a successful writer for another website, I happen to be a weath of knowledge with a lot of connections. I have been been working my butt off to help a certain group of devs get a certain app working on our device, all I'll say is those of us that are flashing addicts will appreciate this app. I get things done through kindness and support. I would love to see that sense of community here, lets face it, we ALL use these forums. Thank you so much all devs that have stuck it out with us, our device would be worthless without you, sincerely, artifintel.
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qft. The saddest part is that some people will never learn.
BTW: Good luck
Thanks! I'm scheduled to do an article on the app, hopefully they will have it working soon.
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First, I would like to apologize for lowering to a level I have tried to remove from these forums. I have been in this game quite awhile and I've learned one thing for sure, being polite and helpful get the best results. I come originally from the lowly Huawei ascend and I'll tell you, that phone has a great community and still sees support and it hit eol more than 6 months ago. We as a group decided our own fate when WE pushed our devs to lock our ICS thread. This is our device and our forums and we are responsible for building a sense of community. As it is now, I cringe to check my own threads because I know they will be bloodgened with haters and "you're wrong, I'm right ". We should all try to encourage on
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Very well said. Although I don't think the "you're wrong I'm right" has a lot to do with the problem. I think the problem goes a little deeper then that.
I feel the problem lies more upon the greed of many users who for some reason think devs/themers owe them something. Developers and themers do this because we like to in our own freetime. We like seeing the page views, downloads, thanks, and constructive criticism that push us to go a step further.
I will give an example of how many of us that make releases look at things. And use my personal releases as reference.
My precision theme for all devices I own and some I don't own has about 6k downloads. Precision for cm7 has about 900. Icecreamcomb has a little over 3k. Weapon new clip has about 400. And a few thousand for all my wallpapers, boot animations, and other images I have created. So apparently a lot of people use my work which is what I hope for upon releasing, seeing as I want people to enjoy it as much as I do.
Look at my thanks meter. I have 210 thanks. So that tells me that out of the 10k+ people using my work only 210 (2%?) where grateful enough to take the liberty to click a button and show appreciation for my hours and hours of hard work. But hey that's fine at least some people do appreciate it and many more use it.
However there are always those that do nothing but troll and complain that drives everyone away. It is sad when it gets to the point that people stop developing for a device because of users. I find it quite astounding the nerve of some people.
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I don't care what kind of flaming I get from this blah blah blah, yada yada yada
Ummmm.......team eos is Roach2010 (plus some others)
Strange person
Is the droid in your avatar breakdancing or did he trip up and land on his head??
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Ummmm.......team eos is Roach2010 (plus some others)
Strange person
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I'm not strange, I am sick and tired of wiping and installing some wanna be rom and have my tf101 reboot every single time the Wireless tries to startup. Testing is key when releasing something you hope others will use...and that is just not being done.
TeamEOS is not Roach2010...he only just starting developing with them. Until I seem a full on, tested, release from them with his Stamp of Approval. I won't believe it.
All the others are amateurs, noobs, and don't bother testing on every model or documenting the fact that they only tested on model a, model b, or model c.
I tried all of the AOSP roms yesterday and none of them had any issues with wifi. They all had excellent stability. But my TF is B70 sbk 1.
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All the others are amateurs, noobs, and don't bother testing on every model or documenting the fact that they only tested on model a, model b, or model c.
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Develop your own then, or quit complaining. You flash these at your own risk, even a thoroughly tested ROM can brick your particular device..also, how do you think the devs TEST these on every device type? They release it here so WE can HELP by reporting bugs back to them and then they FIX them. ICS has been out for barely a month, and the STOCK ICS is full of bugs as it is, why do you expect devs who do it on their own time to be any better than Asus is when they are a corporation?? Wow that was a disrespectful post...
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I tried all of the AOSP roms yesterday and none of them had any issues with wifi. They all had excellent stability. But my TF is B70 sbk 1.
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Thats super great and I am very happy for you. That doesn't help me. I have a B60, and none of them work on it. My main complaint is that none of the devs bother to report which models their rom is tested on.
They are such noobs that they just compile and release and claim the blanket "oh we are not responsible for .... " crap. When they are responsible when they don't document which models they have tested on. They are responsible when they don't give all possible information to people so they can make educated decisions.
This I am not responsible crap is just a way of saying I may or may not be a ****ty developer, and if you find out I suck...its not my problem.
Its no wonder so many people flock to XDA and other site and beg for donations...because they could never make it in the real world as a developer where making quality software was how they eat and pay bills.
I think XDA should vet any developer before just letting them on the forums to release whatever. Sorry, but with all the phone/tablets out there...the room for crappy devs is just growing. Now is the time to start qualifying people.
Anyway...who cares right. "Oh mine works" sorry yours doesn't!
So you expect all of the devs to have every available hardware versions of TF101? That's ridiculous. Maybe send them your TF if you want them to test their ROMs on it?
They do this for FREE. If the ROMs don't work for you, too bad. Not sure how you can complain about something that is completely free. No one is forcing you to use the ROMs.
Think this thread is just to create drama.........
If the op had a sensible case to argue then it would be interesting.
Like its been said before - i have a b40 and ive tried them all with no issues - so theres a 40 & 70 tried and tested........maybe porking the micro sd slot isnt doing your tf any favours.
Going to test out the ignore feature again bet it works as well.
Thread needs binned.......its even in the wrong sub section
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So you expect all of the devs to have every available hardware versions of TF101? That's ridiculous. Maybe send them your TF if you want them to test their ROMs on it?
They do this for FREE. If the ROMs don't work for you, too bad. Not sure how you can complain about something that is completely free. No one is forcing you to use the ROMs.
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Exactly. It's just a hobby for most developers, and none force you to use them. Get another tablet if you're seriously going to complain about the developers work you choose to use.
I've tried AOKP, CM9, Revolver, and Android Revolution, and other than flashing non-stock overclock kernels (which don't work with wifi, apparently) I've had no more problems than stock ICS (Sleep of Death, etc etc)
Also, where is OP's magic ROM that works on every version of the TF101, TF101G, and SL101??? I'd love to give it a shot!
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This I am not responsible crap is just a way of saying I may or may not be a ****ty developer.
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I say again, if it's so easy, why are you even flashing ROMs other people made..make your own and shut up.
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I think XDA should vet any developer before just letting them on the forums to release whatever. Sorry, but with all the phone/tablets out there...the room for crappy devs is just growing.
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First point, they are called 'recognized developers'. Don't download anything that isn't from a recognized developer..sounds like a failure on your part there..
Second point..crappy devs = every dev when they start. It's called a learning curve. This is where we learn. You want polished software, stick with a stock ROM. They have the money to put into PAYING developers to FIX EVERY SINGLE BUG before they release it, oh, and they also EMPLOY BUG TESTERS..
Get off your soapbox. And close this thread already..you are wrong, and being rude. XDA isn't for you, that's obvious. Stick with stock ROMs and you will be happy (LMAO).
So if youre so much better than all the current rom devs, why dont you cook up a completely bugfree rom, tested on all TF models, in your free time, without getting paid?
If asus themselves, who have the resources and hired coders, cant sort out the random reboot issue, why the hell do you expect a group of enthusiast, who code in their spare time mostly for fun, to magically sort it out?
Get down to earth and get a grip on how coding works before flaming.
i normally wouldn't bother giving such post a thought. but its ridiculous to be complaining about something you are getting for free. these devs put in TIME and EFFORT to make something. SO what if there are bugs here and there. almost every piece of software out there has bugs. even the paid ones. And its certainly not an easy task to test every combination of a software.
Yes it can be frustrating having a ROM give you so many issues. But unless you are going to hire them as your personal programmer dont complain. or maybe give up some of your own time to read through their source code and help find the bugs.
XDA is a forum where people HELP one another. We know what it means to have an OPEN environment. We should be appreciative that there are devs willing to make ROMs for our devices and SHARING it with everyone.
off course your solution is to sell your TF and get an iCrap
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I don't care what kind of flaming I get from this, but I am just sick and tired of taking a chance on the current list of developers for the TF101 only to find that my pad ends up in a continuous boot loop with constant Wireless module issues.
I think that if you haven't tested your rom on every possible model of transformer that you should note that, and make it very clear that anyone with a model not tested should take caution.
Yes..I am talking to you sportstart89, ricardopvz, teameos, timbit123, and whoever else thinks that by just compiling a rom, adding Superuser is all it takes to make it in this scene.
I have tried all of them on my B60 transformer...and every last one of them has a crashing Wireless with constant reboot loop.
THE ONLY ROM THAT IS STABLE ON MY PAD IS STOCK WITH VIPERMOD ROOT.
I'm done with all you amateurs.
I want my Roach2010 back!!
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Yeah, and we all know how stable YOUR ROM is, huh? Oh wait, you haven't released a ROM, have you??
Hmm, there is a thought- create the 'perfect' ROM yourself if it's so easy!
Unbelievable.... I cannot believe how un-appreciative and immature some of the people are around here!
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I don't care what kind of flaming I get from this, but I am just sick and tired of taking a chance on the current list of developers for the TF101 only to find that my pad ends up in a continuous boot loop with constant Wireless module issues.
I think that if you haven't tested your rom on every possible model of transformer that you should note that, and make it very clear that anyone with a model not tested should take caution.
Yes..I am talking to you sportstart89, ricardopvz, teameos, timbit123, and whoever else thinks that by just compiling a rom, adding Superuser is all it takes to make it in this scene.
I have tried all of them on my B60 transformer...and every last one of them has a crashing Wireless with constant reboot loop.
THE ONLY ROM THAT IS STABLE ON MY PAD IS STOCK WITH VIPERMOD ROOT.
I'm done with all you amateurs.
I want my Roach2010 back!!
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Hi there I own a B60 and have 3 different roms that will work on it and 1 that has no reboots at all also found an oc kernel that is playing nicely for now.
You can't put issues down to what model you have if the same car is manufactured 5 years in a row not to much is gonna change and base parts can usually be swapped.
I mean I have the same model as you but I may just be able to tweak a rom to work on mine where on yours it has issues or visa versa.
You seem to forget that icys is new and that even completely stock TF101 icys has issues at the moment. I think if anything the devs here are trying to find solutions and actively working quicker than the Asus company themselves also they dont have to go through all the stuff Asus has to to get an update out. Most of the devs here have done great work and have continued to support and develop from honeycomb they could of just left when icys arrived. I mean some are new but a few are not and are well respected.
1st You have a B60 tried a clean NVflash ?
2nd With your wireless are you using the right kernel on the right Rom? Are you doing things correctly?
3rd If its just compile and done do you think cm9 would be making progress?? Do you think modified stock would be as quick or have etc?
4th Kernels are not exactly an easy thing to build or improve on so you cant expect rock solid with everything at the moment its to early!!!!!!
5th Most of these guys have day jobs or university the fact they even do this is huge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think maybe you should calm down have a rethink and suss it out or ask for help or maybe move away from custom and rethink what hardware/software you want to use
Sorry for the long post guys but had to answer such an insulting set of comments
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Hah everyone and their mom taking a shot at the OP because he made it just too easy and irresistible. This could be a very subtle troll.
This is just rude and obnoxious!
This is basically a devoper site. They make it, you test it.
And get your facts straight! There's an issue in the kernel that not everyone experiences. The source is out and people are trying to pin down the reboot issues.
If ya don't like to test and contribute to finding the issue, then go to some other site and whine there. Make your own damn kernel from the source and find the issue yourself!
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IT IS OVER/UNDER time.
I say this thread will be closed by 2:00pm (14:00)pm US Eastern time.
NOW Go!!!!!
Woodrube said:
I say this thread will be closed by 2:00pm (14:00)pm US Eastern time.
NOW Go!!!!!
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You lose. It's closed now.
gVibeR said:
I don't care what kind of flaming I get from this, but I am just sick and tired of taking a chance on the current list of developers for the TF101 only to find that my pad ends up in a continuous boot loop with constant Wireless module issues.
I think that if you haven't tested your rom on every possible model of transformer that you should note that, and make it very clear that anyone with a model not tested should take caution.
Yes..I am talking to you sportstart89, ricardopvz, teameos, timbit123, and whoever else thinks that by just compiling a rom, adding Superuser is all it takes to make it in this scene.
I have tried all of them on my B60 transformer...and every last one of them has a crashing Wireless with constant reboot loop.
THE ONLY ROM THAT IS STABLE ON MY PAD IS STOCK WITH VIPERMOD ROOT.
I'm done with all you amateurs.
I want my Roach2010 back!!
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Blasting people who do what you are seemingly unable to do is wrong, and does not belong at XDA. We exist for the developers, and if you don't want to provide a decent amount of respect, you can leave.
I know our Xoom is getting a bit long in the tooth, but it still is one of the finest equipped pieces of hardware out there. I've been using the Omnirom 4.4.4 iteration for many months now, and love it.
How many tablets can you name that have external sdcard,HDMI, and USB capability besides the normative features most tablets have.
I think the Xoom might just might have a very good future with the next iteration of Android, Lollipop. I'd love to be able to
work on this, but if I did it, I'd have to find someone who would loan me a Xoom they have laying around unused for an extended period of time.
I don't know, but the more I think of it the more excited I become.
That's not how it works...... You are a user not a developer.... I will see what can be done when sources come out but no this is a scam! Why get a Xoom if you already have one? From a account with no rom threads started
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That's not how it works...... You are a user not a developer.... I will see what can be done when sources come out but no this is a scam! Why get a Xoom if you already have one? From a account with no rom threads started
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Wasn't a scam Cameron. I have 1 Xoom that is my primary computing device with anything having to do with mobile devices. I will not have it's useability compromised.
By the way, long ago I wrote code for the Atari ST, STacy and Falcon. In the last few hours I have been able to get a second Xoom from a friend locally (he's not using it, and thought it was bricked-It wasn't, just needed help-I've got working) once I get my friend's Xoom up to speed and brush up on my coding skills I should be able to help.
Honestly, I'm 74 years old and just tired and busy enough that I'd rather not take away from my limited time to become a developer again. At this time I'd like to just be a user and return my friend's fully working Xoom to him
Cameron, It seemed like most of the developers had just gone into hiding and I was hoping to generate interest from the community..
You don't know me, or really know much about me. If you did, you'd know that I wasn't attempting to scam anyone. In fact, saying that my goal was to scam is almost criminal and libelous, but I'm not one to easily take take offense.
Just please don't do a rush to judgement again. Once you make such statements they aren't easily retracted.
I look forward to hearing from you soon. Your friend,
Rob
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Wasn't a scam Cameron. I have 1 Xoom that is my primary computing device with anything having to do with mobile devices. I will not have it's useability compromised.
By the way, long ago I wrote code for the Atari ST, STacy and Falcon. In the last few hours I have been able to get a second Xoom from a friend locally (he's not using it, and thought it was bricked-It wasn't, just needed help-I've got working) once I get my friend's Xoom up to speed and brush up on my coding skills I should be able to help.
Honestly, I'm 74 years old and just tired and busy enough that I'd rather not take away from my limited time to become a developer again. At this time I'd like to just be a user and return my friend's fully working Xoom to him
Cameron, It seemed like most of the developers had just gone into hiding and I was hoping to generate interest from the community..
You don't know me, or really know much about me. If you did, you'd know that I wasn't attempting to scam anyone. In fact, saying that my goal was to scam is almost criminal and libelous, but I'm not one to easily take take offense.
Just please don't do a rush to judgement again. Once you make such statements they aren't easily retracted.
I look forward to hearing from you soon. Your friend,
Rob
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I am simply a "user" also but I can attest to the fact that I have seen numerous posts from Kingsman1 in other Xoom forums and he is always there to help others with questions or problems they are having with their tablet.
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I am simply a "user" also but I can attest to the fact that I have seen numerous posts from Kingsman1 in other Xoom forums and he is always there to help others with questions or problems they are having with their tablet.
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Thanks for the vote of confidence my friend. The Lollipop Software Development Kit (SDK) is out there. I think that I'm going to hide and watch(though I am available at any time) as far as development is concerned. There are many of us who need help, including me from time to time. I'll go back to helping when I can.
Blessings to all,
Rob
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Thanks for the vote of confidence my friend. The Lollipop Software Development Kit (SDK) is out there. I think that I'm going to hide and watch(though I am available at any time) as far as development is concerned. There are many of us who need help, including me from time to time. I'll go back to helping when I can.
Blessings to all,
Rob
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And add another vote from me - I have seen and read many a helpful Kingsman post in these forums - I wish I had some sort of useful skills other than flashing other peoples hard work or I would help - hope this generates the desired response from some other motivated developers - best of luck Sir Rob -
me also
have been running CM11 nighties for some time now but also think it would be cool to see some lollipop love for our xoom.
Yes please !
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have been running CM11 nighties for some time now but also think it would be cool to see some lollipop love for our xoom.
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4.4.4 is da best !
Until 5 comes out
Inspirational !
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I know our Xoom is getting a bit long in the tooth, but it still is one of the finest equipped pieces of hardware out there. I've been using the Omnirom 4.4.4 iteration for many months now, and love it.
How many tablets can you name that have external sdcard,HDMI, and USB capability besides the normative features most tablets have.
I think the Xoom might just might have a very good future with the next iteration of Android, Lollipop. I'd love to be able to
work on this, but if I did it, I'd have to find someone who would loan me a Xoom they have laying around unused for an extended period of time.
I don't know, but the more I think of it the more excited I become.
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Since being on IOS since 2011 I haven't used this account ; I got on here to say thank you; you are an inspiration for the ages. As our knowledge and experience becomes "mature" it's good to see that young or wise by years; we can all work together.
By the way,
I do have a second Xoom of my own not, and am running Omnirom 5.1.1 Alpha on it. At the moment, I'm looking to see what it can, and can't do. I hope to be able to help Schischu develop this into a stable, and very complete Rom now. Even so, this alpha is very polished, fast, and smooth.
I think we're gonna love it.
Blessings,
Rob