Otterbox Defender: front plastic film - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727

I'm considering ordering an Otterbox defender, however I'm a bit worried about the plastic film that looks to be over the screen. How does it affect the feel of the screen? I've already got a very nice screen protector from ghost armor with a lifetime warranty, and don't know that I'd benefit from the additional later of plastic.
For those of you that actually have the defender, did you look to see how the plastic film is attached? Would removing it be as simple as holding a hairdryer or hear gun to the glue to melt and then peel it of, or would removal be more invasive?
I know that I'd basically be turning the defender into the commuter by removing the plastic, but I also want to use a belt clip, which the commuter doesn't have.
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Have had my share of Os and all you gotta do is punch/poke through from one side for it [the screen protector] to come off the frame.

doesn't look too hard to remove.
Just a thin adheaive .
The defender is awesome. Makes the phone look like a mini tablet though lol
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im using it on top of my other screen protecter with no problems

yea just rip it off, most of the otterboxes at best buy pretty much have the screen's off because of how ****ty they're put on.

Thanks for the replies, everyone.
I received my Otterbox Defender earlier this week, and tried it with the plastic cover for a couple of days. It did something very strange though - it started to bond to the Ghost Armor screen protector. Around the edges where there was pressure from the frame of the case, the plastic began to stick to the screen protector underneath. It was really obvious; imagine a screen protector that had partially peeled up and then been laid flat again. Where the Otterbox screen cover had bonded to the ghost armor, it was clear and the screen below appeared crisp and sharp. Where the two were just sitting on top of each other, there was a slight rainbow-speckle pattern, which had been there from the moment I placed the Otterbox cover on the phone. I suspect that what I was seeing was two different types of diffraction, one being glass-> ghost armor-> Otterbox, and the other being glass-> ghost armor-> air-> Otterbox. I guess this is one of those situations where a picture is worth a thousand words, eh?
Anyway, it looked disgusting, so I popped the top off, and held a hair drier to the Otterbox plastic for about a minute. This softened the glue that held it to the frame, and made pulling it off easy.
I'm now very happy with the setup.
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Can you post a pic please. Thinking of purchasing this as well.

blazablaz said:
Can you post a pic please. Thinking of purchasing this as well.
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Hi there, do you still need the pics for the Otterbox Defender? I've been using it for all the phones I had before.

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[Q] OK with no screen protector or case?

I've had my Infuse for 4-5 days and really love the design and all the cool stuff here on xda (as usual). Does Gorilla Glass mean that I don't need a screen protector? I've never been a fan of them. Also, I'm pretty gentle with my phones and would like to keep the stock look with no outer case. What do you guys think, am I flirting with disaster?
EDIT: bought a case-mate pop case in white/gray. Very happy with case and still no screen protector.
seano666 said:
I've had my Infuse for 4-5 days and really love the design and all the cool stuff here on xda (as usual). Does Gorilla Glass mean that I don't need a screen protector? I've never been a fan of them. Also, I'm pretty gentle with my phones and would like to keep the stock look with no outer case. What do you guys think, am I flirting with disaster?
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The glass is extremely hard. There are videos of people online taking razor blades to it. The plastic on the outside, however, will be more prone to scratches. It's really up to you, but I've had mine for a few weeks, and there are no visible signs of use. I don't baby my phones, but I also am not too tough on them.
There's my 2ยข. I hope it helps.
I like using my phone naked because I haven't found any screen protectors that I really like yet, and I like the device without a case. That being said, I bought the moshi screen protector and casemate pop case, mostly for when I am going to be somewhere or doing something that could put my phone in danger...like when I'm drinking and prone to dropping my phone haha. Gorilla glass is scratch resistant, not scratch proof, so it's a good idea to have a screen protector in some situations.
The moshi screen protector is a tad expensive, but I think it's totally worth it for high risk situations. You can take it off and reuse it as many times as you want, and it's really easy to do so. That allows me to put it on quick when I need it, and take it off when I know it's safe. I don't like using it day to day because I love the screen on this phone, and the matte finish on the moshi makes it a bit pixilated. However, it's a life saver in many situations, and I can stand it being on there for the peace of mind while I'm doing something that requires it.
And it's always a good idea to have a case on hand just for rugged situations, and I find the pop to be very nice. It provides a ton of protection in not so huge of a package. While it's not as rugged as an otterbox or ballistic case, my phone has taken quite a few spills from 4+ feet off the ground in my case, and it still fits in my pockets just fine. Another good case that I would recommend is the body glove mirage case. It's a rubbery tpu case that is very pocketable and also provides a lot of protection. All of the accessories I've mentioned can be found at At&t stores, but you can find them cheaper elsewhere, as they mark them up a bit.
Hope I helped!
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I'll take a look at those cases, thanks! I don't do anything that drops my phone from 4+ feet off the ground, I'd have a freaking heart attack!
What are you doing with your phone up that high?
my plastic is all in perfect shape, but my screen has a couple of scratches on it
i try to keep it nice, but it's not easy with this big of a screen..
I didn't think you could scratch the Gorilla Glass unless under extreme punishment, what did you do to scratch it?
seano666 said:
I'll take a look at those cases, thanks! I don't do anything that drops my phone from 4+ feet off the ground, I'd have a freaking heart attack!
What are you doing with your phone up that high?
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I'm 6'2", 4 feet off the ground is standard usage height for me while I'm standing. Haha. And gorilla glass can be scratched, I have a micro scratch on my screen from throwing my keys in my pocket.
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welchertc said:
I'm 6'2", 4 feet off the ground is standard usage height for me while I'm standing. Haha. And gorilla glass can be scratched, I have a micro scratch on my screen from throwing my keys in my pocket.
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Oh ok, that makes sense. I think I'm still going to go bare for now, I'm pretty anal about treating it right. Thanks for the advice!
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I didn't think you could scratch the Gorilla Glass unless under extreme punishment, what did you do to scratch it?
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it likely rubbed against the keys in my pocket, doesn't bother me though. just letting you know that gorilla glass is not invulnerable
docodine said:
it likely rubbed against the keys in my pocket, doesn't bother me though. just letting you know that gorilla glass is not invulnerable
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We must have different glass or something for our screens. I took a razorblade to my old nexus one which was sporting gorilla glass, and there was no visible sign that anything had even happened to it. There are also videos of people online going absolutely nuts on their screens with the same results.
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I didn't think you could scratch the Gorilla Glass unless under extreme punishment, what did you do to scratch it?
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just need something harder than gorilla glass to scratch it. a diamond or maybe some other jewels will easily scratch as well as concrete and maybe some hard steels. keys or gold aren't likely to scratch but some key rings are made from a hard spring steel and might scrach. there is also a coating of some type on the glass that may show scratches.
the plastic definately needs protection. it is break resistant but it is way soft and the lame shiny coating can scratch off.
Scratched my screen with something. Always in its own pocket. Get a screen protector.
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For myself I don't use a screen protector (had the phone since it came out). The Infuse's screen behaves just like my ole iphone4, if not better.
As others have said, the side chrome plastic will scratch easily so a case is warranted.
I actually have never dropped my phone or anything and I have two micro scratches. Samsung is willing to fix it for free the problem is you have to send them the phone and be without one for 7 days.
I work in construction, I use the Ballistics case and a screen protector on the phone, I dropped it from 10ft off a ladder onto concrete, no damage to phone or case. Best money I ever spent
No screen protector or case on my Infuse, and it's been that way since I bought it two months ago. I have one tiny, tiny scratch on the far left side of the front, but it's so far over that it isn't actually on the screen. I have no idea how it got there, I think there must have been a tiny rock or something in my pocket at one point the scratched it. Who knows. My phone has unfortunately been dropped maybe 5 times, and this never caused any damage. I think your phone will be just fine naked.
I decided to get the Case-Mate Pop case. It makes my phone look like a stormtrooper! Still no screen protector tho.
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I'm using a body glove, no screen protector.
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Hi guys im debating weather to put a screen protector on this baby or not, just got her yesterday. Has anyone experienced scratches? Also would someone recommend a good screen protector other than Zagg or invisishield. I'm done with those types. Also I got a casemate today but it kinda sucks, gonna return it tomorrow. Any recommendations on cases? Thanks.
I've heard from a few people on here that they've experienced scratches. I think if you are really careful you can get away with it. Some of the better cases have a lip which will protect it from falling flat on the screen.
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Cases that give you access to the sides of the screen?

I'm just wondering because I enjoy using the Quick ICS Browser if there is a case that lets you easily touch the edges of the screen? Currently using an otterbox and it protrudes up enough that it makes it impossible without greatly increasing the distance from the side resulting in it popping up more than necessary.
I've seen threads on feather cases and a few others but I couldn't tell from the pictures how up they came on the sides.
Bestbuy platinum case goes 2mm from the edge of the visible portion of the screen. Sometimes you run into trouble spots.
Just throwing that out there.
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I use the Diztronic TPU case almost exclusively and I have no issues at all bringing up the quick rings in ICS Browser. As much as I don't like TPU cases, it's actually really nice. Real slim and fits like a glove.
http://www.amazon.com/Diztronic-Tra...36&sr=8-2-fkmr1&keywords=diztronic+htc+one+xl
I love the diztronic cases. I have a black one and a matte one. The matte gets dirty easily is my only real complaint.
Question? All of the cases that show the screen risk the glass getting cracked from a drop correct? I had the att stripe shell on mine and was getting out of the car and forgot it was in my lap and it landed flat on the glass. It was crackaroo. I never drop my phone but woops that one time. Now I am paranoid. I think I am getting a defender today and it is a real shame because I love the design of the phone anybody know of a case that will be good protection and show off any of the phone?
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Question? All of the cases that show the screen risk the glass getting cracked from a drop correct? I had the att stripe shell on mine and was getting out of the car and forgot it was in my lap and it landed flat on the glass. It was crackaroo. I never drop my phone but woops that one time. Now I am paranoid. I think I am getting a defender today and it is a real shame because I love the design of the phone anybody know of a case that will be good protection and show off any of the phone?
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I did the same when I was on vacation I dropped mine right on the top left corner of the screen face down on concrete, and my phone was fine not a single scratch or crack on it in my diztronic tpu case.
Koizuma said:
I did the same when I was on vacation I dropped mine right on the top left corner of the screen face down on concrete, and my phone was fine not a single scratch or crack on it in my diztronic tpu case.
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Nice. I will prob downgrade to something like that sooner or later but for now the defender with the plastic screen popped out with the zagg hd is how I am rolling. Just a little paranoid.

Otterbox defender users question

Have you noticed the buttons are hard to press and when you do press your case makes crackling sounds? I can also push down or move my case around the sides etc. and it makes a lot of sound like it has movement and play and seems flimsy...
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I don't have any of those issues with my defender and my case is pretty much on there good. It's only a pain when I have to take it off.
I returned mine for that exact reason. One side, I think it was the power button side didn't completely close. All of the clips were secured and the case itself was brand new but the two halves of the case would not sit flush against each other along the seam around the power button area. It caused the case to creak and drove me nuts. Good thing the commuter is so solid and simple.
I bought one and later returned it.
Compared to otterbox ~2-3 years ago, their current line of cases feel cheap and plasticy.
What would you do?
I have the navy blue/grey case. seems great so far. just one thing...i already had a screen protector from the commuter installed. does the defenders built in screen protector stick to the screen and not pop up or feel like a button is being pressed when you touch the screen? should i leave the other screen protector on? or should i remove one or the other?
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I have the navy blue/grey case. seems great so far. just one thing...i already had a screen protector from the commuter installed. does the defenders built in screen protector stick to the screen and not pop up or feel like a button is being pressed when you touch the screen? should i leave the other screen protector on? or should i remove one or the other?
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As far as I've experienced, the screen protector on the S4 defender doesn't pop up or stick to the screen; it more like sits flush against the screen. I don't currently have another screen protector on this phone yet but I may end up popping out the built in screen protector if it doesn't fit well with the one I'm planning on buying (a spigen glas.t nano slim).
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1) If your defender case doesn't sit properly, it's probably defective and needs to be returned. I've owned several defender cases and none of them have had this "creaking sound" No shifting of the phone within the case.
2) Sand and dirt particles can get in between that screen protector and your screen, so you can get scratches / micro abrasions if you don't have a second screen protector. I suggest you have a cheap one installed. Shouldn't affect use.
3) I would not remove the screen protector if you are using a cheapo screen protector, if you are using some military non piercing one, then you can remove it.
Thanks for the input. Ill keep the commuter screen protector under the defenders. otterbox should have built a home button cover into the case that way no dust can get in where the home button is.
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Thanks for the input. Ill keep the commuter screen protector under the defenders. otterbox should have built a home button cover into the case that way no dust can get in where the home button is.
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Yeah, I think they have the tech to seal it better as they have the armor variant. The problem is that there is potential entry at button and at the top where the front camera and speaker sits also.
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Yeah, I think they have the tech to seal it better as they have the armor variant. The problem is that there is potential entry at button and at the top where the front camera and speaker sits also.
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True. But I think the top is sealed pretty tight and more flush with the phone than what the part of the screen protector around the home button is..
IMO, the Defender series for the S4 is garbage! Noisy, buttons hard to push. Returned it today and replaced it with a Commuter series and Ghost Armor screen protector.
I would agree about the defender being creaky with buttons hard to push
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seajm said:
IMO, the Defender series for the S4 is garbage! Noisy, buttons hard to push. Returned it today and replaced it with a Commuter series and Ghost Armor screen protector.
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One other thing about the defender.......Without the crappy plastic built in screen protector and the Ghost Armor applied, the phone responds so much better! Like night and day!
I ended up getting the uag. Much happier, but now I don't know what to do with my old otter box defender
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Phatdawg said:
1) If your defender case doesn't sit properly, it's probably defective and needs to be returned. I've owned several defender cases and none of them have had this "creaking sound" No shifting of the phone within the case.
2) Sand and dirt particles can get in between that screen protector and your screen, so you can get scratches / micro abrasions if you don't have a second screen protector. I suggest you have a cheap one installed. Shouldn't affect use.
3) I would not remove the screen protector if you are using a cheapo screen protector, if you are using some military non piercing one, then you can remove it.
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Ya I've had 3 defenders, 2 Glacier color, and now using the Gray/Green color and they all have a Creek in one corner. I've yet to have one that didn't have the creek. Still not a deal breaker for me. Even with all the dirt and dust I'm around in work, it's still flawless.
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I ended up getting the uag. Much happier, but now I don't know what to do with my old otter box defender
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You can send it to me for free
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Anyone here use a invisible sheild for their phone? im thinking of getting one when i return my case at best buy and throwing a commuter or some other case on it, but i dont think best buy sells the tempered glass ones. I'm not to worried about my phone shattering as it to getting scratches, i have warrenty for cracked screens, can't do anything about scratches unfortunately.

otterbox defender question?

Hello
As I have already ruined 80 euros worth of glass screen protectors (I even used the shower method but dust kept coming underneath it and cleaning it with soapy water didn't really help.) I'm now looking for a case that also protects the screen. The otterbox defender caught my eye but I'm wondering if the screen protector will mess with the vibrancy of the colors.
Best method to apply an screen protector is :
Gather the stuff in your room before going to sleep at night , besides the screen protector kit include a transparent glass cleaner spray (not necessary but useful to be in spray) and a extra clean cloth and gloves (if you have hairy hands).
Then next morning as soon you wake up and before you open any door or windows, get your phone, clean carefully, place the screen protector at its ideal position then hold at its ideal position with tape (some kits include if not your case get tape before gather in your room) and then apply generous glass cleaner liquid enough to cover all the screen surface under the protector and the screen surface, but not too much as this could drain into your phone, then apply the screen protector on the wet surface, remove air bubbles and Woallah your screen protector it's perfect.
I used to be fan of Otterbox products but lately don't offer the best protection for that bulk if you are really concerned on protection other choices are better (and maybe cheaper too).
I use Speck candy shell on my note 2 and I have ordered (delayed at customs) an Spigen armor lite view for my new S4.
As screen protector I avoid glass based I prefer Buff brand (layered polycarbonate and soft polyethylene) are cheap (at least I find it cheap in my neighborhood) and offer and outstanding protection and I replace it every 3 months w/o complaint.
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AcostaJA said:
Best method to apply an screen protector is :
Gather the stuff in your room before going to sleep at night , besides the screen protector kit include a transparent glass cleaner spray (not necessary but useful to be in spray) and a extra clean cloth and gloves (if you have hairy hands).
Then next morning as soon you wake up and before you open any door or windows, get your phone, clean carefully, place the screen protector at its ideal position then hold at its ideal position with tape (some kits include if not your case get tape before gather in your room) and then apply generous glass cleaner liquid enough to cover all the screen surface under the protector and the screen surface, but not too much as this could drain into your phone, then apply the screen protector on the wet surface, remove air bubbles and Woallah your screen protector it's perfect.
I used to be fan of Otterbox products but lately don't offer the best protection for that bulk if you are really concerned on protection other choices are better (and maybe cheaper too).
I use Speck candy shell on my note 2 and I have ordered (delayed at customs) an Spigen armor lite view for my new S4.
As screen protector I avoid glass based I prefer Buff brand (layered polycarbonate and soft polyethylene) are cheap (at least I find it cheap in my neighborhood) and offer and outstanding protection and I replace it every 3 months w/o complaint.
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Thanks for the tips an all but I'd like to know if the screen protector from the otterbox holds back the colors of the screen.
Not really. At least not when they're new. If the screen protector gets scratched up then it may, but they're pretty transparent right out of the box.
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IMO it does take away from the screen. I used one for several months and when I took it off to clean it I noticed how much it dulls the screen color and sharpness. I ended up getting the otter box commuter and can now enjoy the great screen on the S4.. But if you are hard on your phone you can't beat the protection the defender gives you.
I have the otterbox defender and scratched the built in screen protector badly after only one week. I unpeeled the cases plastic lens (double sided stick tape) and just put an ordinary 1 time use screen protector on my phone. They fit very snug together and seem to work the best for touch response and all of the other no touch scroll stuff.
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I too have a defender. Unless their screen protector is damaged there isn't much of a difference in clarity. I managed to dent mine in two places which caused a slightly rainbow effect at those points but mire annoyingly two bumps that I constantly ran my finger over.
I purchased a few xtremeguard screen protectors for $1 each, popped out the defender plastic piece, and voila good as new. Plus if anything happens, I have extras.
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About Otterbox Defender case
I've brought the Defender case over the weekend so far it's really good how it hugs the phone and rubber not being flimsy or loose. The built in screen protector does take away from the screen clarity but it's not as bad as the some screen protectors that have a matte finish (anti glare). I've gotten used to it and does not affect the sensitivity of the touch screen. Only con so far is the home button cut out dust can get in there especially if you're always around a dusty environment it can be annoying having to take it apart to clean under it.
BeelzebubIV said:
Hello
As I have already ruined 80 euros worth of glass screen protectors (I even used the shower method but dust kept coming underneath it and cleaning it with soapy water didn't really help.) I'm now looking for a case that also protects the screen. The otterbox defender caught my eye but I'm wondering if the screen protector will mess with the vibrancy of the colors.
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I know youre asking about the otterbox but I thought id throw this out there. You might to check out the trident kraken ams. It has a built in screen protector and it doesnt dull the screen. The only complaints I have about it is it has the dot matrix built in and otterboxs belt clip is better as well. In my opinion the build quality is a ton better plus theyre a bit cheaper as well. Theyre customer service trumps otters as well. I cant stand taking the 4 pictures when dealing with warranty issues.
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Otterbox Defender (modified) + Tempered Glass screen protector = :)

I know what your thinking...ANOTHER THREAD DISCUSSING THIS!!??!!
Let me just say I didn't do this on purpose. I stumbled onto this combination by accident. And I'm just gonna say that it's almost like the old Reeses cup commercials. You got your chocolate in my peanut butter!!
Ok, I got these screen protectors this morning from China. They were the standard glass screen protectors. I received a Clear and a Black. I immediately installed the Clear. It looked good. I had an appointment to get to so...I put the Otterbox Defender case back on my phone with the glass screen protector to at least protect the phone while I was out. It was a tight fit!!
This combination was horrible. I had to press extra hard and i was fairly annoyed. FFW a couple hours. I get home, the phone has been in my pocket and I notice the plastic shield on the Defender, along the adges looked a little dirty, I had to take the glass off too, so I take the case apart and the plastic shield was coming off of the frame that it attaches to. UGH!!! I started to take a few pictures of the problem to send to Otterbox. I had also removed the clear glass screen protector. I started thinking.....BINGO!!
I removed the clear protector on the Otterbox (someone else in the threads mentioned they did this...thanks for the idea). I installed the black edged Glass screen protector and reassembled everything. I must say....this is is the best I've seen. It's an expensive combination....and an unintended surprise.
The company for these Glass Screen protectors is as follows:
Dongguan Strawberry Electronic CO, Ltd
Sara (she is really cool to deal with) WeChat contact ID ps216816
These guys can also be found via Alibaba.com
I don't have a cost...I paid for shipping and they provided me the samples. I didn't receive these protectors in a product box. Just 2 protectors in identical sleeves (pictured below)
Here's the installed Black Glass and Modified Otterbox defender case:
I'm not sure how long this will last...the Glass had glue all the way around the edges. The home button has glue all the way around it. The headset speaker has glue all the way around it. The cutouts for the cameras have no glue.
I'm not promoting anyone or anything. I'm only saying this is working for me at this exact moment in time.
I always remove the plastic screen protectors from OtterBox defenders... They do nothing but gather dust/dirt and create rub marks around the plastic edges over time.
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I'm not promoting anyone or anything. I'm only saying this is working for me at this exact moment in time.
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Enjoy it for the first one hour
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