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{ROM}Honeycomb for D1

Last week Vaizard420 got my attention by booting my Honeycomb on the D1. I promised to get a real port going for you guys, and here it is.
http://t3hh4xx0r.com/projects-2/dev-ports/honeycomb/d1
Working
Data (i think)
Touchscreen
Text Messages
Notification and softkey lights
Not Working
Wifi
Gps
Calls (Honeycomb doesn't come with a phone app)
Hardware acceleration
Simple auto rotation
Camera
Downloads
OMHC_sholes.zip
Donate to help me get a D1, I can get one for $50.

Crazy wild stuff.

haha omg cant believe you making this one as well
Pretty pumped your creating this, knowing how well ur doing on the other port for TB

The sense 3.0 stuff? Haven't touched it recently.
I have my hands in everything xD
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is that zip file the one in the video?

Pithism said:
is that zip file the one in the video?
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yes it is.
not sure, just use the top link to get the one in the video

Ya. I haven't watched the video but thats the one the tester sent me.
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Can't wait for wifi and gps to be finished!!!! Simply amazing work guys!

So what all would be required to get calls working on this? Is it just a matter of getting a phone app on there or is it a more complex problem? Id love to see this get to be a full fledged, stable rom.

It won't ever have working phone stuff.
This is honeycomb, not meant for phones
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You could have a duel boot setup to have both in one device, easier than switching backups. I'm gonna give this a run, any kernels work best for this?

Loaded this up, slow I expected. No on board keyboard that I got to work. The physical keyboard did not have functional numbers that I got to work. I could not get the power button to work either.Nice work though, looks good.
So, sent from my mobile. What's new?

sorry to bother, but i've a question.. i've got a samsung i9003 that has chipset mostly identical to droid, the rest of the hardware is different, i know, phone,gps,wifi,etc. it is possible to recompile kernel from milestone to samsung, knowing the differences,and adding the kernel modules to make it work? gingerbread for this phone is arriving next month,but no rom have been spotted, but i hopo... sorry to invade your section, but i wanted to ask to some developers and i hope a good reply... sorry for my english.

True, the original software isnt meant for phones BUT, he just managed to boot it on a phone, opening up the possibilty phone use. I want to know whats required to get it working.

I loaded up the rom and it works but there are missing elements, without them it is pretty much useless. I had no wifi or data so I could not load anything on it. Neat to play with though, needs a 1000 MHz kernel just to tinker with.

kind make me happy i made the choice of buying this phone in july last summer.

How about root access? Flashed another overclock kernel pushed setcpu but no root access

Very impressive although for phone use doesn't do much there. Plus I can't use the power switch to shut device on and off

did this project die? hopefully not just seems no development has happened in a while

Really, its not going to get any better than this. Only reason I ported it to my phone was because I wanted to see what it would look like. Then people started requesting ports. This was never and will never be anything close to a DD. Its just something fun to flash and play with for a minute, then go back to your ctual rom.
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New Entry Level Dev

What's up XDA. I have officially decided to start developing since the Sidekick 4G doesn't have alot of developers. I was about to start before but I changed my mind because I didn't feel like learning java (which i'm learning now). I already know VB, Python, Lisp, and a little C and I already use Linux Distros all the time. I am working on a Red Gingerbread Themed ROM called FreshBlood. It will probally be released in about 2 weeks. I'm in the 11th grade and don't get out of school until 4:10. I get home about 5:00 and go out straight outside to play basketball, football, or hit a J. On weekends, it's Rockband and CoD modding. Therefore, my projects will take weeks, even months, to complete.
I just need to know a few things:
1. What's the best Linux Distro to setup my workstation
2. I'm using a tutorial I found on google. Where can I find good a tutorial for Java
3. What other tools will I need. I think I have them all

1. although I personally use and prefer archlinux, the guides for compiling refer to dependencies for Ubuntu 9.04,9.10, and 10.04, so those would be the easiest to use if you don't want to have to hunt endlessly for packages.
2. unless you're making an app, you won't be using Java. I would suggest searching around the forum for the mod that you're looking for, and most people will post the source of their mod, or at least explain how they did it. for this you'll need to look at baksmali and smali.
3. you'll need baksmali, smali, adb (android sdk), patience.

It's dangerous to go alone!
Take this http://s.android.com/tech/dalvik/dalvik-bytecode.html

I wish someone would have given me that link before! That would have made things so much easier

Ok, thanks I will be one my computer all weekend, but I won't have my usb with all my Linux Distros.

chaostic_2k1 said:
It's dangerous to go alone!
Take this
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Wow, this is all overwhelming but I'm pushing to understand it all.

Do research and make about 10 test roms before you even think about releasing a official one .

Basically, the results of desmali'ing a file, is the mnemonics/syntax field of that document. ANything that is not there, should be regular language (method, void, etc, regular java). If you know java, that file + what you know, is desmali files.

You still working on this? Not trying to rush at all. Just curious.
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Just what i needed!
just got this phone a few weeks ago and have been messing around with it!
and im really wanting to start developing on this phone! i love this phone!
but being a beginner this is really helping out! thanks!!

What are the necsccary things you need to develop a rom?
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dw9906 said:
You still working on this? Not trying to rush at all. Just curious.
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Yeah, I'm still working on my first ROM. I'm taking some things I've seen in a Samsung Galaxy S ROM

Fresh Jr13 said:
Yeah, I'm still working on my first ROM. I'm taking some things I've seen in a Samsung Galaxy S ROM
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Hopefully it's great. I went back to stock until a rom that is more stable is released. I've tried them all. Eventually the touchscreen stops working off and on. And a lot of other issues. Sucks that stock is the best thing for this phone right now. Good luck. I'll give it a try when your done.
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LostInNorth805 said:
What are the necsccary things you need to develop a rom?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192493
You can find the tools here, good luck!

Man, I just broke my laptop charger so once my battery dies, all development will stop. I won't have the money to buy another one til' next week. But I am going to try to move everything to my phone and see if I can continue some of my work on there. Do anyone know what I can do my phone, if so, how?

Random post. Just need 10 for dev section
*****I'm a beginner ROM Developer, so don't forget to thank and donate*****
Phone: Sidekick 4G
ROM: FreshBlood ROM - Beta
Kernel: Bali 2.2 /w Voodoo

Best rom??

Just wondering what is the best rom for performance....but packed with features and also completely off topic....but does anyone know if the sensation xe is 4g??
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speedyjay said:
Just wondering what is the best rom for performance....but packed with features and also completely off topic....but does anyone know if the sensation xe is 4g??
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Hi,
In the time you've been waiting for an answer,you could have made a nandroid backup,visited THIS FORUM,and picked,say,the most popular ROM.
You could then install it and see for yourself what it is like.
Each ROM thread has a brief description of what it is like,and the whole process would take 20 minutes.
If you don't like that one,choose another.
Why wait for someone else's OPINION,when you can make an informed decision for yourself.
Just saying.

speedyjay said:
Just wondering what is the best rom for performance....but packed with features and also completely off topic....but does anyone know if the sensation xe is 4g??
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Try them all, it's your phone at the end of the day.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G

The rom I recommend is the Android Revolution HD, specially version 4.1.x is great and has the latest version of HTC sense, try it..

Pyramid 3D is the best for me so far. Maybe LeeDroid when it gets updated with custom kernel.
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DIGITALIZED is very smooth and has no faults and has the sense version 2.3.5 and 3.5 sense
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Insertc0in

The best ROM by far is CM7. Don't listen to these noobs.

I would say Android Revolution HD, but you should try different roms with different kernels to find one that suits your need.
I think there are 2 separations, Sense or non-sense, decide which side then try some roms =]

Are any of the ROMS fully customizable? I want to be able to turn off the foolish ring lock and remove all the themes wallpaper and live backgrounds from this phone. plus i would like to remove all the pre installed apps. I only want phone and messaging and vpn on my phone . i also want to brows the files on my pc and access them with some sort of file manager. i would like to change the hard set buttons on the main sreen to diffrent ones that i use . i would like to lock the screen from carouseling to just a single screen that dosent move. is there such a rom?
Not all of us are gossip queens or attracted to shiny objects.... we need a real phones that do real work... becides social masturbation!

sergeybrin said:
The best ROM by far is CM7. Don't listen to these noobs.
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You mean the most unfinished ROM? Or the most likely not to be finished ROM?
Don't take it personal noob.

gunsforeveryone said:
Are any of the ROMS fully customizable? I want to be able to turn off the foolish ring lock and remove all the themes wallpaper and live backgrounds from this phone. plus i would like to remove all the pre installed apps. I only want phone and messaging and vpn on my phone . i also want to brows the files on my pc and access them with some sort of file manager. i would like to change the hard set buttons on the main sreen to diffrent ones that i use . i would like to lock the screen from carouseling to just a single screen that dosent move. is there such a rom?
Not all of us are gossip queens or attracted to shiny objects.... we need a real phones that do real work... becides social masturbation!
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So why the hell did you buy a smartphone?

PygoShlee said:
So why the hell did you buy a smartphone?
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lol +1
and to the guy who posted that -
Android is by far the most customizable OS out there.
Wait for a weekend or some other free time, read for about an hour and do it yourself. You can add or remove anything you want anywhere if you know how. If you cant be bothered reading or cant understand the explanations on how-to do whatever youre trying to accomplish, dont root your phone. Until then you're better off selling your phone, buying a nokia, reading up on android from basics and buying another android phone when youre done being helpless.
You claim youre a 40 year old biker. Unless you've been biking for a living, you'd have some basic computer skills. Thats all you need.

gunsforeveryone said:
Are any of the ROMS fully customizable? I want to be able to turn off the foolish ring lock and remove all the themes wallpaper and live backgrounds from this phone. plus i would like to remove all the pre installed apps. I only want phone and messaging and vpn on my phone . i also want to brows the files on my pc and access them with some sort of file manager. i would like to change the hard set buttons on the main sreen to diffrent ones that i use . i would like to lock the screen from carouseling to just a single screen that dosent move. is there such a rom?
Not all of us are gossip queens or attracted to shiny objects.... we need a real phones that do real work... becides social masturbation!
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Spoken like a true troll! Get u'r self an iphonie because XDA is way over u'r head!!

Take a look at coredroid.all comes down to personal choice. But at least take the time to check it out.
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First impression of Ubuntu touch

Yes yes yes there is a version for Verizon gs3 available in case you have not seen.
I would have brought along some screen shots....but I don't think Ubuntu would let me :/
Anyways
I know my opinion is irrelevant because you guys do not care and the build is currently the definition of " Not a daily driver"
However,
One can still understand the flow and mechanics of the layout.
I use my phone for everything. Quickly moving from one app to another.
In this sense, Ubuntu flows like a river in how to navigate through the apps and home pages. Everything was smooth and no lag any where.
I did find a draw back to the easy access though.
Because of all the swipes in different locations at different times and the multiple spots to pull down different sections of the notification bar, you find your self
Being as clumsy as a new born giraffe while navigating.
Also, because hard ware keys are broken. I found my self somewhere but lost. It would take me a minute to get where I needed to go only because I just didn't know how to get there haha
Coming from touch wiz and an AOSP ROM here and there... Ubuntu almost seems childish?
The layout makes me feel like an old man picking up a smart phone for the first time.
The colors and theme remind me of a day care.
Haha I know all of this is purely theme as not everyone will be happy with it.
But the idea and creativity into this is purely AMAZING.
One of the most refreshing (ROM?) I have used.
I will be coming back when it is daily qualified and might even think that day would be donation worthy
Side notes:
If you are thinking about flashing. DO it.
It was fun until I realized there is no WiFi or network.
Most Apps open but don't work
No settings?
Can't turn screen off?
Lock screen was only a picture I believe?
Did not seem to be interactive yet.
random contacts and media in there. I believe it was for the demo purposes only.
But get
Hey, after one day of release. Phantom already had it out.
Seriously put a smile on my face.
Let me know what you guys think.
Try not to be a **** on this forum.
If after reading this and you just absolutely hate me, PM me about it instead.
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Is it available for Verizon GS3. Can you please provide the link.
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rajkumard said:
Is it available for Verizon GS3. Can you please provide the link.
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I'd love to provide the link. But I am sure it is against the rules somewhere to share links to other peoples work whom do not have it posted on xda.
It is available at roots wiki for the Verizon galaxy s3.
Sorry guys :/
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Isn't it based on CM? Thought I read that on Twitter. Pretty cool for them.
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bobAbooE said:
Isn't it based on CM? Thought I read that on Twitter. Pretty cool for them.
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I believe so. The file clearly has cm in the name Haha so it would make sense
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It's not based on CM, from what I understand it requires that to be installed first to get this booting on our phones. The CM file is only about 50mb.

zakth said:
It's not based on CM, from what I understand it requires that to be installed first to get this booting on our phones. The CM file is only about 50mb.
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Yeah well it is a two part flash kind of lay out. And I believe that xda wrote an article about this.
Check the portal and read what they had to say.
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It's definitely different and original, which I like. Hard to get a real feel for it since it's basically a non-working demo at this point. Lots of swiping all over the place to do everything. But it looks pretty clean and has some cool features like the favorite apps bar and easy app switching/multitasking.

for people asking about the link, it is on rootzwiki forum.

Saw an article on this and knew it would be posted about here. Not ready to try it out myself just yet. But I do like the idea and will be watching. Unfortunate that they put out a semi-functional build with flaws such as these but it's understandable.

I am definitely excited to see this up and running.
Make it so number one!

Tazer2death said:
Saw an article on this and knew it would be posted about here. Not ready to try it out myself just yet. But I do like the idea and will be watching. Unfortunate that they put out a semi-functional build with flaws such as these but it's understandable.
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Builds for the GS3 variants is just a developer preview, I'm guessing we won't see a solid functional build for any device until the source code drops which will probably be around the same time the Ubuntu phone is announced/released. Truly unique experience, lots of swiping and great for multi tasking which I do a lot of. Wasn't too thrilled with the dock system but I suppose it's worth getting use to. The ability to dual boot ubuntu touch/android will be the selling point for most ppl.

Shibby87 said:
Builds for the GS3 variants is just a developer preview, I'm guessing we won't see a solid functional build for any device until the source code drops which will probably be around the same time the Ubuntu phone is announced/released. Truly unique experience, lots of swiping and great for multi tasking which I do a lot of. Wasn't too thrilled with the dock system but I suppose it's worth getting use to. The ability to dual boot ubuntu touch/android will be the selling point for most ppl.
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Do you have any idea when the Ubuntu phone is going to be ?
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barrackOBAMA said:
Yes yes yes there is a version for Verizon gs3 available in case you have not seen.
I would have brought along some screen shots....but I don't think Ubuntu would let me :/
Anyways
I know my opinion is irrelevant because you guys do not care and the build is currently the definition of " Not a daily driver"
However,
One can still understand the flow and mechanics of the layout.
I use my phone for everything. Quickly moving from one app to another.
In this sense, Ubuntu flows like a river in how to navigate through the apps and home pages. Everything was smooth and no lag any where.
I did find a draw back to the easy access though.
Because of all the swipes in different locations at different times and the multiple spots to pull down different sections of the notification bar, you find your self
Being as clumsy as a new born giraffe while navigating.
Also, because hard ware keys are broken. I found my self somewhere but lost. It would take me a minute to get where I needed to go only because I just didn't know how to get there haha
Coming from touch wiz and an AOSP ROM here and there... Ubuntu almost seems childish?
The layout makes me feel like an old man picking up a smart phone for the first time.
The colors and theme remind me of a day care.
Haha I know all of this is purely theme as not everyone will be happy with it.
But the idea and creativity into this is purely AMAZING.
One of the most refreshing (ROM?) I have used.
I will be coming back when it is daily qualified and might even think that day would be donation worthy
Side notes:
If you are thinking about flashing. DO it.
It was fun until I realized there is no WiFi or network.
Most Apps open but don't work
No settings?
Can't turn screen off?
Lock screen was only a picture I believe?
Did not seem to be interactive yet.
random contacts and media in there. I believe it was for the demo purposes only.
But get
Hey, after one day of release. Phantom already had it out.
Seriously put a smile on my face.
Let me know what you guys think.
Try not to be a **** on this forum.
If after reading this and you just absolutely hate me, PM me about it instead.
Sent from my SCH-I535 using xda app-developers app
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I would love to test once they work out some more bugs.

Who cares about a locked bootloader any ways.

Yes I love Cyanogen and it would be nice to have a recovery but what about all the great things from TouchWiz.
If Dan does have an unlock and does release it then yes I probably will unlock but I don't think I can part from TouchWiz. Yet...
Since I bought my wife an S4 also we use S-Beam for sharing pictures of the kids a LOT! That brings me to my next point, the camera is ridiculously good. I don't need to mention how handy the multi-window is...
Will probably run modified stock Roms. Comments?
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So far the mods to TW have been quite impressive, Nottach's Framework for example and P-ROM. Still would very much like a true pure Android experience that I can play with and mod myself. Can't do that without the bootloader unlock though but I can definitely live with what we got for quite a while if I had too

ZPaul2Fresh8 said:
Yes I love Cyanogen and it would be nice to have a recovery but what about all the great things from TouchWiz.
If Dan does have an unlock and does release it then yes I probably will unlock but I don't think I can part from TouchWiz. Yet...
Will probably run modified stock Roms. Comments?
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This is a perfect example of not reading the threads. Do you even know what to do with the fix when you see it? will you know how to apply it? Not bashing you, but sir, I think before you even see a fix, you need to read way more, what is Cyanogen? is it some kind of recovery method? answer to your question is yes, it allows to run other modified TW roms also. This ain't no damn iPhone.

TheAxman said:
This is a perfect example of not reading the threads. Do you even know what to do with the fix when you see it? will you know how to apply it? Not bashing you, but sir, I think before you even see a fix, you need to read way more, what is Cyanogen? is it some kind of recovery method? answer to your question is yes, it allows to run other modified TW roms also. This ain't no damn iPhone.
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Uh, I'd listen to your own advice there, chief.
He didn't even have a question, and from the way it sounds he is plenty aware of the difference between a custom ROM and a recovery. What are you talking about?
And OP, I think I'm having the same dilemma...the mods that have come out for TW have been amazing - and honestly I don't know of any specific features on AOSP ROMs that I DON'T have right now.
And let's be real, I enjoy it when people were are like, "ooh, is that an S4?" And I respond by turning off a random TV in the area, or by scrolling through my gallery just by waving my hand. I'd miss that I think
So yeah I'll definitely unlock once available, but I'll most likely stick with stock-based ROMs too.

CPA Poke said:
Uh, I'd listen to your own advice there, chief.
He didn't even have a question, and from the way it sounds he is plenty aware of the difference between a custom ROM and a recovery.
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Your right, I was actually commenting on his TW opinion, it is a comment. And I prefer TW roms also. more stable.

Choice is always a good thing, just because you have a unlocked bootloader doesn't mean you have to get rid of tw.
For me I always like to just fix what ever I feel is wrong or missing or locked out from a stock rom.
At the end of the day people have to use what makes then happy.
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TheAxman said:
This is a perfect example of not reading the threads. Do you even know what to do with the fix when you see it? will you know how to apply it? Not bashing you, but sir, I think before you even see a fix, you need to read way more, what is Cyanogen? is it some kind of recovery method? answer to your question is yes, it allows to run other modified TW roms also. This ain't no damn iPhone.
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I think you're on crack. LMAO. It hurts to ponder what you THOUGHT you read.
And I did forget to mention the IR blaster. But they're is finally an alternative to SmartON. Try SmartRemote made specifically for the S4 but it is $9.99. It does allow you to make custom remotes so you can place buttons from any device all onto just 1 remote. Also allows custom commands through Pronto HEX codes.
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ZPaul2Fresh8 said:
I think you're on crack. LMAO. It hurts to ponder what you THOUGHT you read.
And I did forget to mention the IR blaster. But they're is finally an alternative to SmartON. Try SmartRemote made specifically for the S4 but it is $9.99. It does allow you to make custom remotes so you can place buttons from any device all onto just 1 remote. Also allows custom commands through Pronto HEX codes.
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Actually, I should not have added bourbon to my coffee.

TheAxman said:
Actually, I should not have added bourbon to my coffee.
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It's all good. I've woken up a few times still half asleep having that same problem.
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ZPaul2Fresh8 said:
Yes I love Cyanogen and it would be nice to have a recovery but what about all the great things from TouchWiz.
If Dan does have an unlock and does release it then yes I probably will unlock but I don't think I can part from TouchWiz. Yet...
Since I bought my wife an S4 also we use S-Beam for sharing pictures of the kids a LOT! That brings me to my next point, the camera is ridiculously good. I don't need to mention how handy the multi-window is...
Will probably run modified stock Roms. Comments?
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I am surprised to find I am starting to feel the same way. I've modified, configured and optimized the stock ROM quite a bit now and it is running very nicely. Looking forward to flashing a custom recovery so I can backup and restore and experiment with what's out there, but it's going to be a tough decision to run modified stock versus CM. I have also found battery life to be excellent with the Stock ROM.

Been trying out the new Samsung features for a while. To me they're nothing more than gimmicks. They're great for making a cool looking commercial, but mostly useless in real life. Air gestures? Please....I'm an adult, how often are my fingers too filthy to touch my phone? The eye tracking features worked sporadically, at best. And not at all in a dimly lit room. Can't wait to unlock this bootloader, flash a ROM, and get rid the mountain of Samsung bloat apps...not to mention AT&T's contribution to that mountain...
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ZPaul2Fresh8 said:
Yes I love Cyanogen and it would be nice to have a recovery but what about all the great things from TouchWiz.
If Dan does have an unlock and does release it then yes I probably will unlock but I don't think I can part from TouchWiz. Yet...
Since I bought my wife an S4 also we use S-Beam for sharing pictures of the kids a LOT! That brings me to my next point, the camera is ridiculously good. I don't need to mention how handy the multi-window is...
Will probably run modified stock Roms. Comments?
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BlastTyrantKM said:
Been trying out the new Samsung features for a while. To me they're nothing more than gimmicks. They're great for making a cool looking commercial, but mostly useless in real life. Air gestures? Please....I'm an adult, how often are my fingers too filthy to touch my phone? The eye tracking features worked sporadically, at best. And not at all in a dimly lit room. Can't wait to unlock this bootloader, flash a ROM, and get rid the mountain of Samsung bloat apps...not to mention AT&T's contribution to that mountain...
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I jump back and forth between these two ends of the opinion spectrum in regards to TW and Samsung's (AT&T's) stock ROM. This is probably the first android phone that I could honestly be okay with never flashing a custom rom on. I will still unlock the bootloader when it becomes available. I will still flash a custom recovery (nandroid backups are a really nice thing to have, and I'm disappointed that carriers don't include this) when it becomes available as well. I *might* flash a custom rom based on the stock rom, but I think I'd rather stick to stock as much as possible, at least for some time.
As for the gimmicky features it comes with, I sort of agree, yet it's fun to show off to friends. I normally keep the gestures and eye scrolling turned off, and I keep the NFC turned off when not in use. I did buy the $9.99 remote app, and I'm surprisingly content with it. I need to offer some feedback about being able to actually drag/drop to change the order of the buttons on the other screen, but otherwise it's so much better than the WatchOn stuff that I have recently frozen using TiBu.
And on to speaking of freezing apps. With root, I'm pretty content. I can use TiBu Pro (to anyone reading this, go buy the Pro version - it's completely worth it!!) to freeze all the bloatware that I don't like. Every few days since I got my phone, I re-evaluate the list in TiBu and check into any blaotware I haven't frozen yet. "Do I need this? Have I used this? Nope! Frozen." I've done this for nearly all of the "Samsung ____" apps, including the Samsung store and all the associated apps (Samsung account, etc.). Did the same for every "AT&T ___" app that it came with - they're all garbage to me. Next on my list to evaluate and possibly freeze is all the printing services - do I really need to print from my phone? Maybe if it were my work phone...
I suppose one good reason I would want to flash a customized stock-based rom would be to free up some space. Having a 16gb version is no different than my S2 was... but I definitely had a few more GB's of room to store all the cool photos. And with larger picture files, and a faster camera, the storage is suddenly a bit more important to me.
And finally, the camera, and its associated apps/modes. I see a lot of people freezing some of the apps that allow some of the cool modes this camera can use. I'm not a professional photographer, but I love taking awesome pictures with this phone. It rival's my wife's Nikon 9300 point-and-shoot, with the exception of the Nikon's zoom lens. But as far as features and quality are concerned, it's possibly better.
This thing has been pretty smooth since day negative-one for me. Even better when we got root and the bloatware was frozen. Even snappier and better on battery once that first OTA dropped. I'm pretty impressed, and it certainly is a huge step up from my S2 running CM10.1.
TL;DR: I really like the stock rom and all the cool things it offers. The performance is great. I do like some of the gimmicky things, even if I rarely use them. With the root ability to freeze things I don't use, I could definitely see keeping this thing "stock" for this device's lifetime.
PS: It's also nice to see the "Official" status, as though I haven't violated the phone too badly...

Couldn't agree more. As you all mentioned, the security of having a custom recovery + Nandroid really opens up a lot of ground for flashing new mods and having the comfort of that fallback instead of only being able to Odin back to stock if I jack something up (which has NEVER happened or anything...lol).

@Aou I too use a Titanium Backup Pro and freeze the bloat. But I kept the Samsung Apps because it had some that you can't find on Google like the Video Editor app.
Let me remind you that the Xposed framework adds new functionality without the need to flash roms. As you can see from the screen shot I was able to mod the screen without touching the framework. Easy and reversible.
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I don't unlock and root my devices to get rid of the stock interface (Touchwiz, Sense etc) i simply do it for a better rom with tweaks that makes it faster and battery life better..
and when i finally get sick of my stock interface ill flash a AOSP rom
i know some people disagree but i think the stock rom on this phone is laggy.. even after disabling S Voice and Smart stay/Air view

Wierd I couldn't add the image.

There we go lol
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ZPaul2Fresh8 said:
Yes I love Cyanogen and it would be nice to have a recovery but what about all the great things from TouchWiz.
If Dan does have an unlock and does release it then yes I probably will unlock but I don't think I can part from TouchWiz. Yet...
Since I bought my wife an S4 also we use S-Beam for sharing pictures of the kids a LOT! That brings me to my next point, the camera is ridiculously good. I don't need to mention how handy the multi-window is...
Will probably run modified stock Roms. Comments?
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dunno if anyone else pointed this out to you yet, but even without s beam, non touchwiz phones still all have Android Beam (you know.. the concept S Beam was based off of?)
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BlastTyrantKM said:
Air gestures? Please....I'm an adult, how often are my fingers too filthy to touch my phone?
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O you must be working in an extra clean environment. I know I don't. My hands get dirty often and these air gestures work for me.
Aside from that, what I am looking forward to is being able to have a pattern unlock And lock screen widgets at the same time. Unless Samsung releases an update for that.

Already a thread on this a few threads away