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I don't know if it's the right place, I just hope DG can see this.
Anyway, every time DG updates Cognition Rom, we can see him switching from Touchwiz to Stock Launcher, or switching back, for different reasons. The same thing happens to the lock screen.
For example, this time DG removed Touchwiz for its laggy, but someone like me really don't care that little lag, I just think the transparent background of the app drawer is much cooler than the stock one...yeah, maybe I'm a weirdo...
Since nothing can make everyone happy, why not just make two of them at each edition, one is more Sammy and the other is more Stock?
Or take some time to learn how it works and you can put it back in yourself. That's the beauty, imho, of the android. You can make it fit yourself. DG is doin' what rox his sox, he's just offerin' it up to us unwashed masses.
I've gotten to where I can make the phone look any way I want and this is my first android phone. Patience and diligence. You can do it too.
ive pretty much learned how to put everything i like in place. launcher, keyboards, etc. the only thing im trying to learn is how to get my preferred lockscreen into any given rom. Is there anyone who can teach me or point me to some references so i can start learning how to do this.
The search feature can amaze you with its knowledge I have seen several threads and posts on the main cognition thread about changing the lock screen
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The search feature can amaze you with its knowledge I have seen several threads and posts on the main cognition thread about changing the lock screen
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You are my hero .
thx for the info .
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ive pretty much learned how to put everything i like in place. launcher, keyboards, etc. the only thing im trying to learn is how to get my preferred lockscreen into any given rom. Is there anyone who can teach me or point me to some references so i can start learning how to do this.
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Not to belabor the point, but Search is a powerful tool
But this one is on the house:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9296761&postcount=9835
and if you really need the original Samsung screen: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9310172&postcount=10045
Cognition blows! Its buggy, no live wallpaper, exchange mail doesn't work, Gmail doesn't push, random force stops... avoid cognition
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His feature flip-flopping always ground my gears when I was using Cognition as my daily driver.
Cognition has live wallpaper.
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One of the versions didn't.
MikeyMike01 said:
One of the versions didn't.
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Correct and now it's missing the android keyboard.
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Correct and now it's missing the android keyboard.
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My point exactly.
what's the point of an android if gmail doesnt push???
danalo1979 said:
Cognition blows! Its buggy, no live wallpaper, exchange mail doesn't work, Gmail doesn't push, random force stops... avoid cognition
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Wow, don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel.
To each his own, no need to rom bash.
Cog rom
Running Cognition 2.3b6, gmail pushes, live wallpaper works, etc. I agree the flip flop isn't great, but hey, he is doing this, and he doesn't have to. Until CM 6.1 comes out, I will keep using his ROMS.
Never had those kind of crazy issues with a Cog ROM. I know he has added/removed apps with each rev.
BUT... with that said he has justified each time he has taken a step back.
Plus - it clearly says BETA - meaning NOT A COMPLETED PRODUCT AND SUBJECT TO CHANGE
Sheesh.
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Wow, don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel.
To each his own, no need to rom bash.
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This. Devs like DG work hard for the community, don't bash their work.
now that development seems to be moving along lets use this thread to discuss our GB development even though its in the general section
First off can anyone begin with telling us what is needed to get GB started on this phone?
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now that development seems to be moving along lets use this thread to discuss our GB development even though its in the general section
First off can anyone begin with telling us what is needed to get GB started on this phone?
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I thought we had to wait for Samsung on GB? Dont get me wrong I would love to see it and if anyone can get it done that would be great. I also see where your coming from, with all these minds we can maybe get a port from another source.
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I thought we had to wait for Samsung on GB? Dont get me wrong I would love to see it and if anyone can get it done that would be great. I also see where your coming from, with all these minds we can maybe get a port from another source.
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well according to some foreigners GB was released for the galaxy family about 2 to 3 weeks ago
but that was a foreign release not an american release, im not sure if that matters
your rite dX but i think the issue is with drivers... like i'm sure u could get gb running... but would be like having an ipad1 lol... if that makes sense....
Yeah I think only the S2 has gingerbread and that's the only one we can port it from. The issues are usually drivers and most of the time we'll lose battery life.
Nah the original galaxy S has gingerbread. We have a kernel and an ext4 fs now so it shouldnt be as bad as trying to port it over like before.
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Nah the original galaxy S has gingerbread. We have a kernel and an ext4 fs now so it shouldnt be as bad as trying to port it over like before.
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If it would be possible that would be great cause I think it could really be done with the right minds in on it.
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I'm getting my linux set back up in the next couple of days. I plan on attacking this as soon as I can. I have successfully compiled GB for a device that shouldn't have seen anything past eclair, so I will do all I can for this one. I have a sh*t ton of homework to do though. This is my first ever Samsung, so there is a BIG learning curve for me.
I came from an Evo 4g so this is DEFINITELY a learning curve for me too! Everything on my evo was easier but this gives me more of a sense of pride. My phone is a beast thanks to the developers!
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I'm getting my linux set back up in the next couple of days. I plan on attacking this as soon as I can. I have successfully compiled GB for a device that shouldn't have seen anything past eclair, so I will do all I can for this one. I have a sh*t ton of homework to do though. This is my first ever Samsung, so there is a BIG learning curve for me.
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You know were here to test when when you get something going.(as long as its not past odining if we screw up.lol ). But seriously I'm sure the whole community here would support you, I know I do.
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You know were here to test when when you get something going.(as long as its not past odining if we screw up.lol ). But seriously I'm sure the whole community here would support you, I know I do.
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Well, here is where I'm coming from:
While up to this point everything we have, as far as roms, are ports (we don't really have a choice because samsung is stingy with their source codes). While this is great for most of what we use, some parts that are really deep in the code (java, framework, device specific hardware, etc....) will HAVE to be compiled in one way or another. You cant just grab the GB file system and try to slam it into our device...never happen. Far too many parts and pieces rely on each other. So once I can get my stuff straight, I will start a clean repo of the GB source (I already have the samsung kd1 source stuff) and try to merge them the best I can. Then the sh*t hits the fan. Will it compile? Probably not.......Now we have to resort to past experience, help from others that have compiled, and google your ass off!
As an example: Shared libs are a freakin nightmare!! Did you know that things like camera, video, and even some audio stuff use the same exact libs? I didn't either until I started compiling. So if one of these is broken....none of it will work. Probably won't even compile, let alone boot.
I'll support anyone who wants to do something productive with our phone.
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Well, here is where I'm coming from:
While up to this point everything we have, as far as roms, are ports (we don't really have a choice because samsung is stingy with their source codes). While this is great for most of what we use, some parts that are really deep in the code (java, framework, device specific hardware, etc....) will HAVE to be compiled in one way or another. You cant just grab the GB file system and try to slam it into our device...never happen. Far too many parts and pieces rely on each other. So once I can get my stuff straight, I will start a clean repo of the GB source (I already have the samsung kd1 source stuff) and try to merge them the best I can. Then the sh*t hits the fan. Will it compile? Probably not.......Now we have to resort to past experience, help from others that have compiled, and google your ass off!
As an example: Shared libs are a freakin nightmare!! Did you know that things like camera, video, and even some audio stuff use the same exact libs? I didn't either until I started compiling. So if one of these is broken....none of it will work. Probably won't even compile, let alone boot.
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Damn bro that sounds like a super challenge. I'm sure the people in this forum could help. Lets just hope others want this like we do. That's wild about those lib files. So if 1 is broke you have to find it and fix it to compile? That's rough.
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Damn bro that sounds like a super challenge. I'm sure the people in this forum could help. Lets just hope others want this like we do. That's wild about those lib files. So if 1 is broke you have to find it and fix it to compile? That's rough.
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Sh*t dude.....I had some lib issues that have snagged me up for days. It's tough, but it is possible. The reason I want GB so bad is I have seen what it does for other devices. The main advantage....SPEED!!!! Lots of new badass options too
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Sh*t dude.....I had some lib issues that have snagged me up for days. It's tough, but it is possible. The reason I want GB so bad is I have seen what it does for other devices. The main advantage....SPEED!!!! Lots of new badass options too
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I heard it does wonders for the battery also. Do you know this to be true? This is my first android device and I'm all about learning new things. Ever since I got this phone I've been wanting a laptop so I can learn to dev more.
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I heard it does wonders for the battery also. Do you know this to be true? This is my first android device and I'm all about learning new things. Ever since I got this phone I've been wanting a laptop so I can learn to dev more.
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Oh absolutely. The key is how the file system reads itself in GB. The cpu just plain 'ol doesn't have to work as hard. Better battery life, faster and smoother overall performance, graphics, etc...... Plus like I said, it has features that froyo just doesn't have. Absolutely no need for task killers anymore. It's all integrated into the system.
And to answer your question, yes. If one part of that lib doesn't jive......compiling just stops, end of story. Now you have to search through all of your source files and TRY to find out what's wrong. Then google google google for any sign of a solution. This is virgin ground when compiling aosp from source. Not easy at all.
That doesn't touch the tip of the iceberg either. Try modifying code (which has to be done sometimes). C, C++, Java, etc.....sh*t can get hairy.
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Oh absolutely. The key is how the file system reads itself in GB. The cpu just plain 'ol doesn't have to work as hard. Better battery life, faster and smoother overall performance, graphics, etc...... Plus like I said, it has features that froyo just doesn't have. Absolutely no need for task killers anymore. It's all integrated into the system.
And to answer your question, yes. If one part of that lib doesn't jive......compiling just stops, end of story. Now you have to search through all of your source files and TRY to find out what's wrong. Then google google google for any sign of a solution. This is virgin ground when compiling aosp from source. Not easy at all.
That doesn't touch the tip of the iceberg either. Try modifying code (which has to be done sometimes). C, C++, Java, etc.....sh*t can get hairy.
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im hopping on the UBUNTU bandwagon today,
its time to start learning some code so we can get GB on this damn thing
and yes i saw that the galaxy s has gb as well not just the gs2
looks like we got hell to go through mad_fitter and anyone else who will join our suicidal mission
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im hopping on the UBUNTU bandwagon today,
its time to start learning some code so we can get GB on this damn thing
and yes i saw that the galaxy s has gb as well not just the gs2
looks like we got hell to go through mad_fitter and anyone else who will join our suicidal mission
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Installing ubuntu 9.10 on a throwaround laptop. I'm down to go at this with u guys!
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Installing ubuntu 9.10 on a throwaround laptop. I'm down to go at this with u guys!
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yayyyyy!! i was waiting for that reply robbbbit hahaha!!
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Oh absolutely. The key is how the file system reads itself in GB. The cpu just plain 'ol doesn't have to work as hard. Better battery life, faster and smoother overall performance, graphics, etc...... Plus like I said, it has features that froyo just doesn't have. Absolutely no need for task killers anymore. It's all integrated into the system.
And to answer your question, yes. If one part of that lib doesn't jive......compiling just stops, end of story. Now you have to search through all of your source files and TRY to find out what's wrong. Then google google google for any sign of a solution. This is virgin ground when compiling aosp from source. Not easy at all.
That doesn't touch the tip of the iceberg either. Try modifying code (which has to be done sometimes). C, C++, Java, etc.....sh*t can get hairy.
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I tried my hand at c++ when I used to have a PSP and I messed around and wrote a few starter programs(hello world, a counter,mp3 player)to get me familiar with code. Yea that stuff makes my brain hurt when trying to fix an error, compiling the mp3 player was hard cause I kept getting errors, took me 2 Days to get it to compile into eboot.pbp for psp and it would still freeze when trying to exit so I never got to finish it.
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new forum scent is still here
Finally
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Glad to see a forum, I bought this device for my mom and hope to see devs get behind it. With an unlockable bootloader, anything can be done with the device
Since there are no mods here yet, can I be the first troll? *starts grafting the walls*
lol jk
why is it taking soooo long to restore 8600 text messages??? Actually, why does it not limit people to 300 like I checked. Would knock off a couple thousand easy. i have limits set in gosms and stock to no avail.
And it feels weird having a phone that doesn't say Samsung on it. It's been about four years. Would've been longer if Sammy would've made the i550.
Will say, the Q charges a lot quicker than the Epic ever did with or without a charge only cable. Keys have a bit more travel than the Epic's. Doesn't feel like a good thing at the moment, but I'm sure it's more of just what I'm used to. Same goes for the tab key, weird punctuation placement and the annoying on screen keys. What's the point of having onscreen buttons if there is so much bezel space at the bottom. Phone feels light and plasticy, but not in a bad way. At least there's no chromed plastic. Slider seems solid. Screen is definitely bright. Colors aren't oversaturated, and I still see a touch of pixelization that probably would be non existent if it were HD and not qHD.
Hopefully there will be some worthwhile development for this thing. Cheers all.
Damn!!!! hurry Advocate phone I am rocking an S2 and S3 right now so dont know how this is gonna top them but eh they are giving me one so I am going to learn it and use it to the best of my abilitys! had good experience on the original mopho expect them same here.
Shabby you in on this device ....... then all is well
wheres the love guys? there was more forum activity before you guys got rooted.
Hectic weekend, and my slider is loose. Going to call and get it switched out. Will root and nandroid once I know I can get a new phone so I can do an easy restore.
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wheres the love guys? there was more forum activity before you guys got rooted.
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Bought this device for my mom, will be rooting it this weekend and starting the debloat. Hope to see the community around this grow, maybe even get a CM maintainer. This has the specs to make it through a few Android OS releases
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Bought this device for my mom, will be rooting it this weekend and starting the debloat. Hope to see the community around this grow, maybe even get a CM maintainer. This has the specs to make it through a few Android OS releases
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as it stands the cm i keep trying to compile is failing in webcore granted that is just purly grabbing cm and adding in my device tree. havent applied any of the moto stuff yet
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as it stands the cm i keep trying to compile is failing in webcore granted that is just purly grabbing cm and adding in my device tree. havent applied any of the moto stuff yet
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you are awesome
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as it stands the cm i keep trying to compile is failing in webcore granted that is just purly grabbing cm and adding in my device tree. havent applied any of the moto stuff yet
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Do you have a tree up? I saw there's kernel source from Moto...
I was looking at buying this device, and I want to put TWRP 2.0 and AOKP on it. I'd love to help ya .
i handed the device tree off to dees_troy since he did the photon twrp himself before i imagine he will prolly do this one as well twrp currently doesnt boot
as for device trees i got sick of so many cwm ports back in teh froyo days not having source up so i do everything in my power to ensure people can get it https://github.com/Shabbypenguin/android_device_moto_asanti
as for aokp/cm and the like i tried to compile CM9 and it threw a bit fit. thats about where im gunna stop
You've been thanked, this should at least get me somewheres. Would like to see some good ROM's for this beast
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You've been thanked, this should at least get me somewheres. Would like to see some good ROM's for this beast
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give me some time and ill have us some goodies, buying this phone real soon, and will port over what I've done for the photon to the q (not saying I'm going to port from photon)... in case you don't know of me....I've taken on miui, aokp, aokpcb, cm9, cna,.paranoid android, and themed/tweaked stock ....I've had alot of great friends helping me through them, so in no way can I take full credit for them but I'm certain I should be able to do the same for the q.....
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Hell yeah I've heard of you and enjoyed your work. I can't wait to see what you put together for the Q.
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Alright! I am getting CM9 and will work with some other peoples to get Shabby's device tree fleshed out. Hopefully we can get that up and running pretty quickly so we can move onto CM10/AOKP
Also, I ordered the phone today - hope to have it here soon!
My wifey wants this phone but she said she wants to wait till ROMs come out for it. Was shocked when she said that I think I got her spoiled on ROMs from her epic 4g lol.
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why is it taking soooo long to restore 8600 text messages??? Actually, why does it not limit people to 300 like I checked. Would knock off a couple thousand easy. i have limits set in gosms and stock to no avail.
And it feels weird having a phone that doesn't say Samsung on it. It's been about four years. Would've been longer if Sammy would've made the i550.
Will say, the Q charges a lot quicker than the Epic ever did with or without a charge only cable. Keys have a bit more travel than the Epic's. Doesn't feel like a good thing at the moment, but I'm sure it's more of just what I'm used to. Same goes for the tab key, weird punctuation placement and the annoying on screen keys. What's the point of having onscreen buttons if there is so much bezel space at the bottom. Phone feels light and plasticy, but not in a bad way. At least there's no chromed plastic. Slider seems solid. Screen is definitely bright. Colors aren't oversaturated, and I still see a touch of pixelization that probably would be non existent if it were HD and not qHD.
Hopefully there will be some worthwhile development for this thing. Cheers all.
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AGREE was so upset there was no hd screen,jokersax,shabby,spleef,th3bill made my MoPho (og photon) so awesome.tegra rox!! now new photon ,no hd, yucky keyboard,and no quad tegra. LEFT and went to gnex!!!! done with MOTO.soooooo loved and still love og photon
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give me some time and ill have us some goodies, buying this phone real soon, and will port over what I've done for the photon to the q (not saying I'm going to port from photon)... in case you don't know of me....I've taken on miui, aokp, aokpcb, cm9, cna,.paranoid android, and themed/tweaked stock ....I've had alot of great friends helping me through them, so in no way can I take full credit for them but I'm certain I should be able to do the same for the q.....
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I second this comment,ya all made my photon fun bro. your top notch spleef. too bad moto went backwords with q,accept 1.5 gig but no tegra and tegra rox.memories of shadowrom
Wow
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Is it possible to get my notification draw onto my lock screen??
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For real? Not trying to be a ****, but just pull down from the top of the screen!??!
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For real? Not trying to be a ****, but just pull down from the top of the screen!??!
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He must be on ICS. It only works on jb I think. But I still loled at your response haha
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He must be on ICS. It only works on jb I think. But I still loled at your response haha
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I could do it on ics... You can't do it when you have a pass code or patter lock you can only do it when there's no security
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Lol. Don't you think I've tried pulling down on the screen, dumbass. Lol.
Is there a way to get it to show up on JB with a security code?
This is why I shouldve just stuck with a jailbreak on a iPhone. Haha. Easier to tweak it.
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If you have a passcode you can't pull it down. And that is for obvious reasons, because if you have passcode on your phone you obviously don't want random people getting into it or seeing stuff, so that's why the notification bar can't be pulled down.
As for your iphone comment, if you really wanna use a **** phone, with **** tweaks then go ahead and get it. But the reasoning for it not being pulled down while having a passcode is obvious.
Oh and it works PERFECT on my S3 running AOSP Jellybean incase you were wondering
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Lol. Don't you think I've tried pulling down on the screen, dumbass. Lol.
Is there a way to get it to show up on JB with a security code?
This is why I shouldve just stuck with a jailbreak on a iPhone. Haha. Easier to tweak it.
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Well for future reference if you give more details then this isn't working. You might get an answer that helps. Your op said nothing about security lock codes or even what ROM you are on. So the answer of just pull down was reasonable.
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New to android. didnt think it matter on either rom nor secruity. it didnt on iphone lol.
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New to android. didnt think it matter on either rom nor secruity. it didnt on iphone lol.
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Its okay, it's just helpful for us when you post more information, it helps us help you better
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New to android. didnt think it matter on either rom nor secruity. it didnt on iphone lol.
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Well then, first welcome. Next though the more details you can give the better. You'll find that the community here wants to help, but can only do that if they understand the problem.
Also, I can promise android is easier to tweak and easier to save if you screw up. It us just a learning curve, but one you get it you'll love it m just remember make sure you read what you are doing, search for answers and if you still don't understand ask.
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Well for future reference if you give more details then this isn't working. You might get an answer that helps. Your op said nothing about security lock codes or even what ROM you are on. So the answer of just pull down was reasonable.
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you must have never used a iphone with a jailbreak. easier to mod. 1000s of more tweaks that you can select through a simple app store. Not ones that come with a ROM.
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you must have never used a iphone with a jailbreak. easier to mod. 1000s of more tweaks that you can select through a simple app store. Not ones that come with a ROM.
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You're right. The must I ever did was jail break and unlock to increase resale, but it was a pain. However, that was probably my learning curve. Either way I prefer to tweak by swapping out ROMs radios, etc.
Hey you might want to check out the pimp ROM app. It lets you select a bunch of tweaks from a simple to use app. Kind of like cydia.
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Thanks. Eh. Every tweak seems to be on Google play. Not all work for this phone. And not very many. They ones that come with a ROM are okay. But I got them all on the iPhone too. Even with toogles on a widget.
Let's say if I wanted my lock screen to show up one when I'm not on my home WiFi. I could. Or password anything. Photo albums. Folders. Apps. I mean you can do that on here somewhat. But toggles for it would be nice. I phones are a lot easier to tweak. All tweaks are categorized in a appstore. Cydia is nice. Sorry die hard jailbreak fan.. lol
Hate how the keyboard on here takes the whole screen in landscape mode. Hate that the most. Lol. Its annoying. Also the notifications for apps and such on here are horrible! No badge numbers. Nothing! Lol. Sucks. Android is okay for the average user I guess. But someone who wants to tweak there phone to their liking with themes,boot logos, security, overclocking(think that's what its called in android world) lol, choose iPhone 4s or above.
Just was sitting here bored. Sorry to go off topic. Haha
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Check out miui
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Check out miui
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MIUI ROM downloader? Doesn't support galaxy SIII only one and two..
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nvm i see it in ROM manager. ill check it out...
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Thanks. Eh. Every tweak seems to be on Google play. Not all work for this phone. And not very many. They ones that come with a ROM are okay. But I got them all on the iPhone too. Even with toogles on a widget.
Let's say if I wanted my lock screen to show up one when I'm not on my home WiFi. I could. Or password anything. Photo albums. Folders. Apps. I mean you can do that on here somewhat. But toggles for it would be nice. I phones are a lot easier to tweak. All tweaks are categorized in a appstore. Cydia is nice. Sorry die hard jailbreak fan.. lol
Hate how the keyboard on here takes the whole screen in landscape mode. Hate that the most. Lol. Its annoying. Also the notifications for apps and such on here are horrible! No badge numbers. Nothing! Lol. Sucks. Android is okay for the average user I guess. But someone who wants to tweak there phone to their liking with themes,boot logos, security, overclocking(think that's what its called in android world) lol, choose iPhone 4s or above.
Just was sitting here bored. Sorry to go off topic. Haha
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Android phones are for the average user? It's more like iPhones are for the average user. What I'm wondering is why in the world did you get an android phone if you're a die-hard jailbreak fan?
As for being bored, why not flash some roms, kernels, themes, etc.
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MIUI ROM downloader? Doesn't support galaxy SIII only one and two..
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No the official ROM. You'll get more of the iPhone feel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31453543
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Neverendingxsin said:
Android phones are for the average user? It's more like iPhones are for the average user. What I'm wondering is why in the world did you get an android phone if you're a die-hard jailbreak fan?
As for being bored, why not flash some roms, kernels, themes, etc.
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guess you right in that sense, that the iphone is for the average user. but once it is jailbroken. Probably like flashing all this stuff to your phone as you call it. All this is in, Cydia, the modified app store for all of this stuff you mention. You can add and remove tweaks to any iOS without having to "flash" anything. Of course it can get complex.
I have a friend who works for Verizon who convinced me into trying a Android. Plain and simple. iPhone will be my next upgrade. lol.
Maybe im not doing my searching right or my google history needs erased again. But all I want on my phone is apps installed directly to SD card. (read this wasn't possible). Its okay if it's not possible. notification badges. None seem to work on my ROM for some reason. (CM10 latest nightly). Well I take that back, SMS does. Their all enabled to in settings, gMail, phone, SMS.. Also now I have to go to my app drawer to click on a call to answer it. doesnt stay on my screen to accept. More themes. Seeing them on Google play. Their mostly ugly. maybe it's the lack of retina display. But nothing fancy either in the same line. I'll keep searching and asking i guess.
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guess you right in that sense, that the iphone is for the average user. but once it is jailbroken. Probably like flashing all this stuff to your phone as you call it. All this is in, Cydia, the modified app store for all of this stuff you mention. You can add and remove tweaks to any iOS without having to "flash" anything. Of course it can get complex.
I have a friend who works for Verizon who convinced me into trying a Android. Plain and simple. iPhone will be my next upgrade. lol.
Maybe im not doing my searching right or my google history needs erased again. But all I want on my phone is apps installed directly to SD card. (read this wasn't possible). Its okay if it's not possible. notification badges. None seem to work on my ROM for some reason. (CM10 latest nightly). Well I take that back, SMS does. Their all enabled to in settings, gMail, phone, SMS.. Also now I have to go to my app drawer to click on a call to answer it. doesnt stay on my screen to accept. More themes. Seeing them on Google play. Their mostly ugly. maybe it's the lack of retina display. But nothing fancy either in the same line. I'll keep searching and asking i guess.
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I'd recommend trying out different AOSP roms, such as Liquid Smooth, Paranoid Android, King Kong, AOKP, and get a sense of each one. You can also download Nova or Apex launcher and they'll both give you more options for notification badges. Stock AOSP android is pretty plain but that's the point of it though, The customization is up to you
I'll look into them. Im running CM10 ROM now. It's not bad. It'd probably be much greater if I could get my apps to store on external SDCard instead of internal. I'll keep looking them ROMs or whatever you mentioned to see if they have anything i'm looking for..
Yes I love Cyanogen and it would be nice to have a recovery but what about all the great things from TouchWiz.
If Dan does have an unlock and does release it then yes I probably will unlock but I don't think I can part from TouchWiz. Yet...
Since I bought my wife an S4 also we use S-Beam for sharing pictures of the kids a LOT! That brings me to my next point, the camera is ridiculously good. I don't need to mention how handy the multi-window is...
Will probably run modified stock Roms. Comments?
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So far the mods to TW have been quite impressive, Nottach's Framework for example and P-ROM. Still would very much like a true pure Android experience that I can play with and mod myself. Can't do that without the bootloader unlock though but I can definitely live with what we got for quite a while if I had too
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Yes I love Cyanogen and it would be nice to have a recovery but what about all the great things from TouchWiz.
If Dan does have an unlock and does release it then yes I probably will unlock but I don't think I can part from TouchWiz. Yet...
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This is a perfect example of not reading the threads. Do you even know what to do with the fix when you see it? will you know how to apply it? Not bashing you, but sir, I think before you even see a fix, you need to read way more, what is Cyanogen? is it some kind of recovery method? answer to your question is yes, it allows to run other modified TW roms also. This ain't no damn iPhone.
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This is a perfect example of not reading the threads. Do you even know what to do with the fix when you see it? will you know how to apply it? Not bashing you, but sir, I think before you even see a fix, you need to read way more, what is Cyanogen? is it some kind of recovery method? answer to your question is yes, it allows to run other modified TW roms also. This ain't no damn iPhone.
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Uh, I'd listen to your own advice there, chief.
He didn't even have a question, and from the way it sounds he is plenty aware of the difference between a custom ROM and a recovery. What are you talking about?
And OP, I think I'm having the same dilemma...the mods that have come out for TW have been amazing - and honestly I don't know of any specific features on AOSP ROMs that I DON'T have right now.
And let's be real, I enjoy it when people were are like, "ooh, is that an S4?" And I respond by turning off a random TV in the area, or by scrolling through my gallery just by waving my hand. I'd miss that I think
So yeah I'll definitely unlock once available, but I'll most likely stick with stock-based ROMs too.
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Uh, I'd listen to your own advice there, chief.
He didn't even have a question, and from the way it sounds he is plenty aware of the difference between a custom ROM and a recovery.
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Your right, I was actually commenting on his TW opinion, it is a comment. And I prefer TW roms also. more stable.
Choice is always a good thing, just because you have a unlocked bootloader doesn't mean you have to get rid of tw.
For me I always like to just fix what ever I feel is wrong or missing or locked out from a stock rom.
At the end of the day people have to use what makes then happy.
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This is a perfect example of not reading the threads. Do you even know what to do with the fix when you see it? will you know how to apply it? Not bashing you, but sir, I think before you even see a fix, you need to read way more, what is Cyanogen? is it some kind of recovery method? answer to your question is yes, it allows to run other modified TW roms also. This ain't no damn iPhone.
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I think you're on crack. LMAO. It hurts to ponder what you THOUGHT you read.
And I did forget to mention the IR blaster. But they're is finally an alternative to SmartON. Try SmartRemote made specifically for the S4 but it is $9.99. It does allow you to make custom remotes so you can place buttons from any device all onto just 1 remote. Also allows custom commands through Pronto HEX codes.
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I think you're on crack. LMAO. It hurts to ponder what you THOUGHT you read.
And I did forget to mention the IR blaster. But they're is finally an alternative to SmartON. Try SmartRemote made specifically for the S4 but it is $9.99. It does allow you to make custom remotes so you can place buttons from any device all onto just 1 remote. Also allows custom commands through Pronto HEX codes.
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Actually, I should not have added bourbon to my coffee.
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Actually, I should not have added bourbon to my coffee.
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It's all good. I've woken up a few times still half asleep having that same problem.
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Yes I love Cyanogen and it would be nice to have a recovery but what about all the great things from TouchWiz.
If Dan does have an unlock and does release it then yes I probably will unlock but I don't think I can part from TouchWiz. Yet...
Since I bought my wife an S4 also we use S-Beam for sharing pictures of the kids a LOT! That brings me to my next point, the camera is ridiculously good. I don't need to mention how handy the multi-window is...
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I am surprised to find I am starting to feel the same way. I've modified, configured and optimized the stock ROM quite a bit now and it is running very nicely. Looking forward to flashing a custom recovery so I can backup and restore and experiment with what's out there, but it's going to be a tough decision to run modified stock versus CM. I have also found battery life to be excellent with the Stock ROM.
Been trying out the new Samsung features for a while. To me they're nothing more than gimmicks. They're great for making a cool looking commercial, but mostly useless in real life. Air gestures? Please....I'm an adult, how often are my fingers too filthy to touch my phone? The eye tracking features worked sporadically, at best. And not at all in a dimly lit room. Can't wait to unlock this bootloader, flash a ROM, and get rid the mountain of Samsung bloat apps...not to mention AT&T's contribution to that mountain...
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Yes I love Cyanogen and it would be nice to have a recovery but what about all the great things from TouchWiz.
If Dan does have an unlock and does release it then yes I probably will unlock but I don't think I can part from TouchWiz. Yet...
Since I bought my wife an S4 also we use S-Beam for sharing pictures of the kids a LOT! That brings me to my next point, the camera is ridiculously good. I don't need to mention how handy the multi-window is...
Will probably run modified stock Roms. Comments?
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Been trying out the new Samsung features for a while. To me they're nothing more than gimmicks. They're great for making a cool looking commercial, but mostly useless in real life. Air gestures? Please....I'm an adult, how often are my fingers too filthy to touch my phone? The eye tracking features worked sporadically, at best. And not at all in a dimly lit room. Can't wait to unlock this bootloader, flash a ROM, and get rid the mountain of Samsung bloat apps...not to mention AT&T's contribution to that mountain...
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I jump back and forth between these two ends of the opinion spectrum in regards to TW and Samsung's (AT&T's) stock ROM. This is probably the first android phone that I could honestly be okay with never flashing a custom rom on. I will still unlock the bootloader when it becomes available. I will still flash a custom recovery (nandroid backups are a really nice thing to have, and I'm disappointed that carriers don't include this) when it becomes available as well. I *might* flash a custom rom based on the stock rom, but I think I'd rather stick to stock as much as possible, at least for some time.
As for the gimmicky features it comes with, I sort of agree, yet it's fun to show off to friends. I normally keep the gestures and eye scrolling turned off, and I keep the NFC turned off when not in use. I did buy the $9.99 remote app, and I'm surprisingly content with it. I need to offer some feedback about being able to actually drag/drop to change the order of the buttons on the other screen, but otherwise it's so much better than the WatchOn stuff that I have recently frozen using TiBu.
And on to speaking of freezing apps. With root, I'm pretty content. I can use TiBu Pro (to anyone reading this, go buy the Pro version - it's completely worth it!!) to freeze all the bloatware that I don't like. Every few days since I got my phone, I re-evaluate the list in TiBu and check into any blaotware I haven't frozen yet. "Do I need this? Have I used this? Nope! Frozen." I've done this for nearly all of the "Samsung ____" apps, including the Samsung store and all the associated apps (Samsung account, etc.). Did the same for every "AT&T ___" app that it came with - they're all garbage to me. Next on my list to evaluate and possibly freeze is all the printing services - do I really need to print from my phone? Maybe if it were my work phone...
I suppose one good reason I would want to flash a customized stock-based rom would be to free up some space. Having a 16gb version is no different than my S2 was... but I definitely had a few more GB's of room to store all the cool photos. And with larger picture files, and a faster camera, the storage is suddenly a bit more important to me.
And finally, the camera, and its associated apps/modes. I see a lot of people freezing some of the apps that allow some of the cool modes this camera can use. I'm not a professional photographer, but I love taking awesome pictures with this phone. It rival's my wife's Nikon 9300 point-and-shoot, with the exception of the Nikon's zoom lens. But as far as features and quality are concerned, it's possibly better.
This thing has been pretty smooth since day negative-one for me. Even better when we got root and the bloatware was frozen. Even snappier and better on battery once that first OTA dropped. I'm pretty impressed, and it certainly is a huge step up from my S2 running CM10.1.
TL;DR: I really like the stock rom and all the cool things it offers. The performance is great. I do like some of the gimmicky things, even if I rarely use them. With the root ability to freeze things I don't use, I could definitely see keeping this thing "stock" for this device's lifetime.
PS: It's also nice to see the "Official" status, as though I haven't violated the phone too badly...
Couldn't agree more. As you all mentioned, the security of having a custom recovery + Nandroid really opens up a lot of ground for flashing new mods and having the comfort of that fallback instead of only being able to Odin back to stock if I jack something up (which has NEVER happened or anything...lol).
@Aou I too use a Titanium Backup Pro and freeze the bloat. But I kept the Samsung Apps because it had some that you can't find on Google like the Video Editor app.
Let me remind you that the Xposed framework adds new functionality without the need to flash roms. As you can see from the screen shot I was able to mod the screen without touching the framework. Easy and reversible.
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I don't unlock and root my devices to get rid of the stock interface (Touchwiz, Sense etc) i simply do it for a better rom with tweaks that makes it faster and battery life better..
and when i finally get sick of my stock interface ill flash a AOSP rom
i know some people disagree but i think the stock rom on this phone is laggy.. even after disabling S Voice and Smart stay/Air view
Wierd I couldn't add the image.
There we go lol
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ZPaul2Fresh8 said:
Yes I love Cyanogen and it would be nice to have a recovery but what about all the great things from TouchWiz.
If Dan does have an unlock and does release it then yes I probably will unlock but I don't think I can part from TouchWiz. Yet...
Since I bought my wife an S4 also we use S-Beam for sharing pictures of the kids a LOT! That brings me to my next point, the camera is ridiculously good. I don't need to mention how handy the multi-window is...
Will probably run modified stock Roms. Comments?
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dunno if anyone else pointed this out to you yet, but even without s beam, non touchwiz phones still all have Android Beam (you know.. the concept S Beam was based off of?)
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Air gestures? Please....I'm an adult, how often are my fingers too filthy to touch my phone?
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O you must be working in an extra clean environment. I know I don't. My hands get dirty often and these air gestures work for me.
Aside from that, what I am looking forward to is being able to have a pattern unlock And lock screen widgets at the same time. Unless Samsung releases an update for that.
Already a thread on this a few threads away