now that development seems to be moving along lets use this thread to discuss our GB development even though its in the general section
First off can anyone begin with telling us what is needed to get GB started on this phone?
dsexton702 said:
now that development seems to be moving along lets use this thread to discuss our GB development even though its in the general section
First off can anyone begin with telling us what is needed to get GB started on this phone?
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I thought we had to wait for Samsung on GB? Dont get me wrong I would love to see it and if anyone can get it done that would be great. I also see where your coming from, with all these minds we can maybe get a port from another source.
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I thought we had to wait for Samsung on GB? Dont get me wrong I would love to see it and if anyone can get it done that would be great. I also see where your coming from, with all these minds we can maybe get a port from another source.
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well according to some foreigners GB was released for the galaxy family about 2 to 3 weeks ago
but that was a foreign release not an american release, im not sure if that matters
your rite dX but i think the issue is with drivers... like i'm sure u could get gb running... but would be like having an ipad1 lol... if that makes sense....
Yeah I think only the S2 has gingerbread and that's the only one we can port it from. The issues are usually drivers and most of the time we'll lose battery life.
Nah the original galaxy S has gingerbread. We have a kernel and an ext4 fs now so it shouldnt be as bad as trying to port it over like before.
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Nah the original galaxy S has gingerbread. We have a kernel and an ext4 fs now so it shouldnt be as bad as trying to port it over like before.
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If it would be possible that would be great cause I think it could really be done with the right minds in on it.
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I'm getting my linux set back up in the next couple of days. I plan on attacking this as soon as I can. I have successfully compiled GB for a device that shouldn't have seen anything past eclair, so I will do all I can for this one. I have a sh*t ton of homework to do though. This is my first ever Samsung, so there is a BIG learning curve for me.
I came from an Evo 4g so this is DEFINITELY a learning curve for me too! Everything on my evo was easier but this gives me more of a sense of pride. My phone is a beast thanks to the developers!
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I'm getting my linux set back up in the next couple of days. I plan on attacking this as soon as I can. I have successfully compiled GB for a device that shouldn't have seen anything past eclair, so I will do all I can for this one. I have a sh*t ton of homework to do though. This is my first ever Samsung, so there is a BIG learning curve for me.
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You know were here to test when when you get something going.(as long as its not past odining if we screw up.lol ). But seriously I'm sure the whole community here would support you, I know I do.
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You know were here to test when when you get something going.(as long as its not past odining if we screw up.lol ). But seriously I'm sure the whole community here would support you, I know I do.
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Well, here is where I'm coming from:
While up to this point everything we have, as far as roms, are ports (we don't really have a choice because samsung is stingy with their source codes). While this is great for most of what we use, some parts that are really deep in the code (java, framework, device specific hardware, etc....) will HAVE to be compiled in one way or another. You cant just grab the GB file system and try to slam it into our device...never happen. Far too many parts and pieces rely on each other. So once I can get my stuff straight, I will start a clean repo of the GB source (I already have the samsung kd1 source stuff) and try to merge them the best I can. Then the sh*t hits the fan. Will it compile? Probably not.......Now we have to resort to past experience, help from others that have compiled, and google your ass off!
As an example: Shared libs are a freakin nightmare!! Did you know that things like camera, video, and even some audio stuff use the same exact libs? I didn't either until I started compiling. So if one of these is broken....none of it will work. Probably won't even compile, let alone boot.
I'll support anyone who wants to do something productive with our phone.
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Well, here is where I'm coming from:
While up to this point everything we have, as far as roms, are ports (we don't really have a choice because samsung is stingy with their source codes). While this is great for most of what we use, some parts that are really deep in the code (java, framework, device specific hardware, etc....) will HAVE to be compiled in one way or another. You cant just grab the GB file system and try to slam it into our device...never happen. Far too many parts and pieces rely on each other. So once I can get my stuff straight, I will start a clean repo of the GB source (I already have the samsung kd1 source stuff) and try to merge them the best I can. Then the sh*t hits the fan. Will it compile? Probably not.......Now we have to resort to past experience, help from others that have compiled, and google your ass off!
As an example: Shared libs are a freakin nightmare!! Did you know that things like camera, video, and even some audio stuff use the same exact libs? I didn't either until I started compiling. So if one of these is broken....none of it will work. Probably won't even compile, let alone boot.
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Damn bro that sounds like a super challenge. I'm sure the people in this forum could help. Lets just hope others want this like we do. That's wild about those lib files. So if 1 is broke you have to find it and fix it to compile? That's rough.
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Damn bro that sounds like a super challenge. I'm sure the people in this forum could help. Lets just hope others want this like we do. That's wild about those lib files. So if 1 is broke you have to find it and fix it to compile? That's rough.
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Sh*t dude.....I had some lib issues that have snagged me up for days. It's tough, but it is possible. The reason I want GB so bad is I have seen what it does for other devices. The main advantage....SPEED!!!! Lots of new badass options too
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Sh*t dude.....I had some lib issues that have snagged me up for days. It's tough, but it is possible. The reason I want GB so bad is I have seen what it does for other devices. The main advantage....SPEED!!!! Lots of new badass options too
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I heard it does wonders for the battery also. Do you know this to be true? This is my first android device and I'm all about learning new things. Ever since I got this phone I've been wanting a laptop so I can learn to dev more.
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I heard it does wonders for the battery also. Do you know this to be true? This is my first android device and I'm all about learning new things. Ever since I got this phone I've been wanting a laptop so I can learn to dev more.
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Oh absolutely. The key is how the file system reads itself in GB. The cpu just plain 'ol doesn't have to work as hard. Better battery life, faster and smoother overall performance, graphics, etc...... Plus like I said, it has features that froyo just doesn't have. Absolutely no need for task killers anymore. It's all integrated into the system.
And to answer your question, yes. If one part of that lib doesn't jive......compiling just stops, end of story. Now you have to search through all of your source files and TRY to find out what's wrong. Then google google google for any sign of a solution. This is virgin ground when compiling aosp from source. Not easy at all.
That doesn't touch the tip of the iceberg either. Try modifying code (which has to be done sometimes). C, C++, Java, etc.....sh*t can get hairy.
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Oh absolutely. The key is how the file system reads itself in GB. The cpu just plain 'ol doesn't have to work as hard. Better battery life, faster and smoother overall performance, graphics, etc...... Plus like I said, it has features that froyo just doesn't have. Absolutely no need for task killers anymore. It's all integrated into the system.
And to answer your question, yes. If one part of that lib doesn't jive......compiling just stops, end of story. Now you have to search through all of your source files and TRY to find out what's wrong. Then google google google for any sign of a solution. This is virgin ground when compiling aosp from source. Not easy at all.
That doesn't touch the tip of the iceberg either. Try modifying code (which has to be done sometimes). C, C++, Java, etc.....sh*t can get hairy.
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im hopping on the UBUNTU bandwagon today,
its time to start learning some code so we can get GB on this damn thing
and yes i saw that the galaxy s has gb as well not just the gs2
looks like we got hell to go through mad_fitter and anyone else who will join our suicidal mission
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im hopping on the UBUNTU bandwagon today,
its time to start learning some code so we can get GB on this damn thing
and yes i saw that the galaxy s has gb as well not just the gs2
looks like we got hell to go through mad_fitter and anyone else who will join our suicidal mission
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Installing ubuntu 9.10 on a throwaround laptop. I'm down to go at this with u guys!
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Installing ubuntu 9.10 on a throwaround laptop. I'm down to go at this with u guys!
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yayyyyy!! i was waiting for that reply robbbbit hahaha!!
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Oh absolutely. The key is how the file system reads itself in GB. The cpu just plain 'ol doesn't have to work as hard. Better battery life, faster and smoother overall performance, graphics, etc...... Plus like I said, it has features that froyo just doesn't have. Absolutely no need for task killers anymore. It's all integrated into the system.
And to answer your question, yes. If one part of that lib doesn't jive......compiling just stops, end of story. Now you have to search through all of your source files and TRY to find out what's wrong. Then google google google for any sign of a solution. This is virgin ground when compiling aosp from source. Not easy at all.
That doesn't touch the tip of the iceberg either. Try modifying code (which has to be done sometimes). C, C++, Java, etc.....sh*t can get hairy.
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I tried my hand at c++ when I used to have a PSP and I messed around and wrote a few starter programs(hello world, a counter,mp3 player)to get me familiar with code. Yea that stuff makes my brain hurt when trying to fix an error, compiling the mp3 player was hard cause I kept getting errors, took me 2 Days to get it to compile into eboot.pbp for psp and it would still freeze when trying to exit so I never got to finish it.
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So who are the developers that are going to be developing for the Samsung Nexus S 4G (D720)? I figured this is a question everyone has been wondering. Im very excited to get started with my Nexus S 4G! (Previously came from the HTC Evo and there were alot of dedicated dev., Hope to see the same here)
P.S I didnt put this in the Q&A Because this is a direct question to the developers in this section about the current ROM's Available. Please don't be upset : )
I hope netarchy puts up a rom with his liquid smooth touches. His evo rom + kernel was ILL.
The thing is, the nexus s and ns4g are dev phones, bare bone AOSP, so a custom rom is just gunna be "themed" a bit and/or the real "improvements" are in the Kernel or any additional apps the dev has created.
I would love to see a bunch of ports make their way over. I would imagine that a dev phone would be one of the easiest to port/build for (easy for a dev, not the average human )
in a way, we all are.. who is to say that someone has to be a "dev" to make something, or find out what may fix something? on the heroc we had hundreds of users sitting in an irc room helping each other trying to figure out why things didnt work and what would happen if we pressed this button 7 times instead of 4..
so in short grab some code and lets start working my repo is synced and already compiled im working with the rest of the ACS team to see if we cant bring some lovins on over from the epic/evo
trying to come up with a good name for the rom >.>
Well, its very time consuming. I did alot of theming in the past, then wrote a few apps for WebOS, but just don't seem to have the time anymore with fulltime work, college, etc.
You are right tho, anyone can learn and the nexus line are a great place to start, simple and not complicated. Come on young high-school minds with oodles of time! Make ur name known! Lol
Really tho, I wish I could contribute more
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You know I have some time since school is over and now I'm just looking for work to pass me by til its starts again. NO BS if somebody could point me to the right way help me along the way. I would make a rom for the ns4g. Always wanted to just for self pride not for glory or money. So I'm here and ready!
I know alot of you guys don't know him. But ask any Droid owner about Peter Alfonso (BuglessPete). You couldn't ask for a better dev to work on stuff for your phone. * no pressure Pete
Seriously though shabbypenguin hit the nail on the head. We are in this together ...
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I know alot of you guys don't know him. But ask any Droid owner about Peter Alfonso (BuglessPete). You couldn't ask for a better dev to work on stuff for your phone. * no pressure Pete
Seriously though shabbypenguin hit the nail on the head. We are in this together ...
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lol thanks Ill see what I can throw together
You had one of my favorite EVO ROMS easily.
In b4 this is in q&a
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ok, whats everyone think of ChillyWIlly rom?
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ok, whats everyone think of ChillyWIlly rom?
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Makes me think of Will Smith
J/K, I like...
Im on a campaign going to evo threads and saying how great this phone is. Maybe they will switch. Putting nexus in high demand
Uncle Jimmy says hello
903tex said:
You know I have some time since school is over and now I'm just looking for work to pass me by til its starts again. NO BS if somebody could point me to the right way help me along the way. I would make a rom for the ns4g. Always wanted to just for self pride not for glory or money. So I'm here and ready!
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This number one thing to do is get ur pc ready with the right software and drivers (there are a couple applications for compiling/decompiling and signing, not just what u use for root)
There's a thread around here about theming for the epic. It has a nice intro to the basic setup ull need, just be sure to replace anything epic with sns, u can then move on to ROMs once u understand what composes a ROM. When I'm back at my PC I could probably hook u up w a good place to start, but right now I'm out and about after this heathen Bulls game! Woot woot!
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lol thanks Ill see what I can throw together
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If I may suggest, Epic 4G is just about the same as the NS4G. From what I hear they got our stock to work on Epic just after I posted this.
I know they have the CM7 half way ported on Epic as well as the obvious stock with the TouchWiz interface for whoever likes that stuff I figured this would be the easiest place to start.
stop spamming this, its not going to work, for the same reasons why i explained in your thread about it
It probably will work as much as flashing a Droid ROM onto a Milestone...same hardware...epic fail.
more so then that all they currently have is a .32 cm7 kernel a semi working .35 cm7 kernel and their stock .32 touchwiz kernel.. we only have .35 stock kernel, even if you could get past the bootloops good luck trying to make a phone call or get crap to stop force closing
Spamming? Chill out man. I'm just trying to help.
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Guys what are the odds of stock android rom hacked on to the Sammy Charge???
Wondering what others are thinking?
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The odds are better than the odds that you took time to read the Development board where there are 2 ROMs available
and most likely a 3rd one soon by the dev that did the Liberty ROM the Tesla ROM.....
But if all you care about is this CM ROM; go get something else.
I'm sure there will be one eventually, but if you want it within the next month, I'd look elsewhere, as there are no guarantees as to when it will come or how functional it will be.
Lol @ Shotgunsams great response.
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@shotgunsam...... Ummmm roms available. There all spruced up TouchWiz tweaks.
I am meaning a true Rom not built ontop of touchwiz.
Either i was looking for hope of one. Since the fascinate never got one.
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Uh, did you read the descriptions of the ROMs? DroidXCon gives you LauncherPro, other launchers soon to come, and imnuts has a streamlined ROM with the default AOSP launcher. Both completely remove TW launcher, according to the descriptions.
I too would love to see CM7 for this device. But the fact is, there are a few great ROM's available already, which is incredible considering the phone has only been out for two weeks! I really appreciate the hard work of the devs, and can't wait to see what's available in the coming weeks.
I got the DI when it first came out. First it was when will it get root. Root was a ***** becasue it was so random it worked with some sd cards and some it did not. There were methods of clicking your sd card in and out which actually worked for me. Not a day latter everyone was *****ing about roms. When will we get this or that rom. Look at almost 1 year later and there are crazy amount of roms. It takes time be patient and look forward to what is coming. Crap I am typing this and I don't even get my charge till tuesday. I hate touchwiz I will root,rom,replace launcher with one of my choosing. If I hate something will just get another phone 6 8 months down the road but really not concerned about it at this point. I think in time it will be like every other phone tons of awesome roms from great developers. Liberty was one of if not the best roms for the droidx which I own. Just knowing they same people that worked on that rom is doing stuff for charge has me stoked.
Guys im not knockin the devs. But everything is built off TOUCHWIZ just cause you get rid of the launcher its still touchwiz under the hood.
The fascinate never had a locked bootloader either and noone ever got a stock android rom working. So i was just asking if it would be possible here. Anyways no biggie....
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Guys im not knockin the devs. But everything is built off TOUCHWIZ just cause you get rid of the launcher its still touchwiz under the hood.
The fascinate never had a locked bootloader either and noone ever got a stock android rom working. So i was just asking if it would be possible here. Anyways no biggie....
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No way of saying will it get cwm7 or not. I will say the Droid x has a locked boot loader but Liberty rom was amazing. They put a ton of details and tweeks so that you could change things they way you want. As much as you could anyways with a locked boot loader. The developers of that rom did a great job with what they had to work with. Now if they are dev for this phone and it is fully unlocked. Wow no dobut will they put out a awesome rom for it. Now I have every intention to installing the best roms out for this phone when I get it tuesday. Developers deserve not only our thanks but donations as well. Thank you guys that put in all the hard work making our phones run crazy cool.
Unlike other skins tw is small and really is easy to remove. I've deleted alot and it still is functioning. Sense roms=200MB touchwiz=100MB and idk about blur
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Guys im not knockin the devs. But everything is built off TOUCHWIZ just cause you get rid of the launcher its still touchwiz under the hood.
The fascinate never had a locked bootloader either and noone ever got a stock android rom working. So i was just asking if it would be possible here. Anyways no biggie....
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Do you know why the fascinate still doesn't have a fully functional cm7? Samsung code. And lack of true full source... This too is a samsung device...
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Do you know why the fascinate still doesn't have a fully functional cm7? Samsung code. And lack of true full source... This too is a samsung device...
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Well Samsung released the kernel source pretty much immediately didn't they? Also didn't Samsung say they were going to be better about releasing that kind of stuff, and also keeping bootloaders more open? So this could be a real possibility. Although if you know what your removing, I would assume like HTC Sense, you can pretty much take a TW based rom and completely remove TW and have it work fine.
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Do you know why the fascinate still doesn't have a fully functional cm7? Samsung code. And lack of true full source... This too is a samsung device...
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587MB of source code goodness for the Charge can be found here:
https://opensource.samsung.com/
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Alcoholic Dali said:
587MB of source code goodness for the Charge can be found here:
https://opensource.samsung.com/
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We need ril source, the old cdma ril is bad, and now with lte thrown in...
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Well Samsung released the kernel source pretty much immediately didn't they? Also didn't Samsung say they were going to be better about releasing that kind of stuff, and also keeping bootloaders more open? So this could be a real possibility. Although if you know what your removing, I would assume like HTC Sense, you can pretty much take a TW based rom and completely remove TW and have it work fine.
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Kernel source isn't full source. Im not saying we won't get cm6/7, it's just going to take time.
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Guys im not knockin the devs. But everything is built off TOUCHWIZ just cause you get rid of the launcher its still touchwiz under the hood.
The fascinate never had a locked bootloader either and noone ever got a stock android rom working. So i was just asking if it would be possible here. Anyways no biggie....
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You do know that the Fascinate is knocking on the door to get full CM7 support don't you? Honestly, if you didn't like the Fascinate, you won't like the Charge, and based on your posts here, I don't think you ever like any android phone as they all seem to have one problem or another.
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The reason the download is so big is that Samsung didn't clean out the kernel source tree after building, and tar'd up the source files as well as the built binaries (and all the other generated files). After you download, do "make distclean" and you'll save yourself some space and get rid of the useless files.
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Guys what are the odds of stock android rom hacked on to the Sammy Charge???
Wondering what others are thinking?
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Apparently a lot of people are having trouble understanding the question. lol
I been wondering the same thing though. I have a good feeling about CM getting on bored eventually, it's what I'm looking foreward to the most with this phone. I miss having my notification bar on the bottom of my phone like I did with my D'Inc... lol
The only reason I say I "think" that it has a good chance getting CM support is because it seems, besides the Fascinate, they have been doing a great job cracking down on Samsung phones lately in the past few months. Besides the more phone supported by them, the better and the more recongnition they get. Until then ADW Ex is working fine for me.
Shout out to CM for all the awesome hard work.
@mozes316 cool. Nice of you to give a thought without going haywire on me like some others. Lol
Im a big android purest fan.
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Apparently a lot of people are having trouble understanding the question. lol
I been wondering the same thing though. I have a good feeling about CM getting on bored eventually, it's what I'm looking foreward to the most with this phone. I miss having my notification bar on the bottom of my phone like I did with my D'Inc... lol
The only reason I say I "think" that it has a good chance getting CM support is because it seems, besides the Fascinate, they have been doing a great job cracking down on Samsung phones lately in the past few months. Besides the more phone supported by them, the better and the more recongnition they get. Until then ADW Ex is working fine for me.
Shout out to CM for all the awesome hard work.
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You looked into the epic cm7 builds? Lots of issues.
Any cdma phone is having serious issues with the porting.
Not trying to flame anyone by any means. Just informing people of what I feel is overlooked...
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You looked into the epic cm7 builds? Lots of issues.
Any cdma phone is having serious issues with the porting.
Not trying to flame anyone by any means. Just informing people of what I feel is overlooked...
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Coming from the original Incredible (CDMA) Rooting and ROMing was a breeze and also received CM support pretty quickly. If anything, I would think that the 4G radio would be the hardest work around. You never know though.
What's up XDA. I have officially decided to start developing since the Sidekick 4G doesn't have alot of developers. I was about to start before but I changed my mind because I didn't feel like learning java (which i'm learning now). I already know VB, Python, Lisp, and a little C and I already use Linux Distros all the time. I am working on a Red Gingerbread Themed ROM called FreshBlood. It will probally be released in about 2 weeks. I'm in the 11th grade and don't get out of school until 4:10. I get home about 5:00 and go out straight outside to play basketball, football, or hit a J. On weekends, it's Rockband and CoD modding. Therefore, my projects will take weeks, even months, to complete.
I just need to know a few things:
1. What's the best Linux Distro to setup my workstation
2. I'm using a tutorial I found on google. Where can I find good a tutorial for Java
3. What other tools will I need. I think I have them all
1. although I personally use and prefer archlinux, the guides for compiling refer to dependencies for Ubuntu 9.04,9.10, and 10.04, so those would be the easiest to use if you don't want to have to hunt endlessly for packages.
2. unless you're making an app, you won't be using Java. I would suggest searching around the forum for the mod that you're looking for, and most people will post the source of their mod, or at least explain how they did it. for this you'll need to look at baksmali and smali.
3. you'll need baksmali, smali, adb (android sdk), patience.
It's dangerous to go alone!
Take this http://s.android.com/tech/dalvik/dalvik-bytecode.html
I wish someone would have given me that link before! That would have made things so much easier
Ok, thanks I will be one my computer all weekend, but I won't have my usb with all my Linux Distros.
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It's dangerous to go alone!
Take this
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Wow, this is all overwhelming but I'm pushing to understand it all.
Do research and make about 10 test roms before you even think about releasing a official one .
Basically, the results of desmali'ing a file, is the mnemonics/syntax field of that document. ANything that is not there, should be regular language (method, void, etc, regular java). If you know java, that file + what you know, is desmali files.
You still working on this? Not trying to rush at all. Just curious.
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Just what i needed!
just got this phone a few weeks ago and have been messing around with it!
and im really wanting to start developing on this phone! i love this phone!
but being a beginner this is really helping out! thanks!!
What are the necsccary things you need to develop a rom?
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You still working on this? Not trying to rush at all. Just curious.
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Yeah, I'm still working on my first ROM. I'm taking some things I've seen in a Samsung Galaxy S ROM
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Yeah, I'm still working on my first ROM. I'm taking some things I've seen in a Samsung Galaxy S ROM
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Hopefully it's great. I went back to stock until a rom that is more stable is released. I've tried them all. Eventually the touchscreen stops working off and on. And a lot of other issues. Sucks that stock is the best thing for this phone right now. Good luck. I'll give it a try when your done.
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What are the necsccary things you need to develop a rom?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192493
You can find the tools here, good luck!
Man, I just broke my laptop charger so once my battery dies, all development will stop. I won't have the money to buy another one til' next week. But I am going to try to move everything to my phone and see if I can continue some of my work on there. Do anyone know what I can do my phone, if so, how?
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Phone: Sidekick 4G
ROM: FreshBlood ROM - Beta
Kernel: Bali 2.2 /w Voodoo
Hey guys, I have a small request for any kernel dev on the infuse..
I have an ns4g, and have been working on a sense 2.1 port, thread is here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1489851
My friend let me borrow his old infuse 4g, as I was interested in developing for it a little..
The port itself shouldn't be too hard, as the infuse and ns4g are both based on the s5pc110 board, and are pretty much the same device along with all sgs haha..
What I'm asking is, are there any kernel devs out there that would be willing to help me? I need a sense bootclasspath over a cm7 kernel for this port, and thats all I am asking for. I suck with samsung zimages, and dont trust myself building it from source since I just picked up the device..
Thanks in advance for anyone willing to help
swamp goblin said:
Hey guys, I have a small request for any kernel dev on the infuse..
I have an ns4g, and have been working on a sense 2.1 port, thread is here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1489851
My friend let me borrow his old infuse 4g, as I was interested in developing for it a little..
The port itself shouldn't be too hard, as the infuse and ns4g are both based on the s5pc110 board, and are pretty much the same device along with all sgs haha..
What I'm asking is, are there any kernel devs out there that would be willing to help me? I need a sense bootclasspath over a cm7 kernel for this port, and thats all I am asking for. I suck with samsung zimages, and dont trust myself building it from source since I just picked up the device..
Thanks in advance for anyone willing to help
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LinuxBozo, Entropy and bedwa were the kernel devs we had. (sorry if I forgot any)
They still pop in once in a while. Haven't seen any lately
IRC room. ;D
Any luck? I'd love to see this on our phones.
It will be harder then you think, but most of this community is cheering you on ha. Contact the people in the first list if possible, best bet would be entropy though.
Yeah I know it will be hard, but the infuse community looks like it needs some love I tried to get in touch with entropy, no reply.
try it yourself. id test it. these phones are super easy to flash remotely so bad kernels arent too much of a concern.
swamp goblin said:
Yeah I know it will be hard, but the infuse community looks like it needs some love I tried to get in touch with entropy, no reply.
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Linux, bedwa?
Yes, we do need some love... Lol
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This would be awesome... hopefully you can get in touch
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swamp goblin said:
Yeah I know it will be hard, but the infuse community looks like it needs some love I tried to get in touch with entropy, no reply.
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Well he's got a new test kernel. And Samsung now has posted new source. If you brick this thing, I will applaud you. It's REALLY hard to. Especially if you have a jig. I'd try this thing if you did it.. even though I've heard what Sam Catsplat thinks about Sense...
There's nothing I could do here - I don't even know what the hell you're asking for. Bootclasspath is userland (maybe initramfs), not kernel.
If you're doing something as aggressive as trying to shoehorn Sense onto a Samsung device, you'd better have the ability to rebuild your own kernel.
As I don't have a device, I am not doing anything but small patches. I also don't recall you ever trying to get in touch with me, but maybe I missed the PM.
Either way - you are best off doing this yourself. If you can't rebuild a kernel you have no hope of achieving a major mod such as a Sense port.
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Entropy512 said:
There's nothing I could do here - I don't even know what the hell you're asking for. Bootclasspath is userland (maybe initramfs), not kernel.
If you're doing something as aggressive as trying to shoehorn Sense onto a Samsung device, you'd better have the ability to rebuild your own kernel.
As I don't have a device, I am not doing anything but small patches. I also don't recall you ever trying to get in touch with me, but maybe I missed the PM.
Either way - you are best off doing this yourself. If you can't rebuild a kernel you have no hope of achieving a major mod such as a Sense port.
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Alright yeah I was a little confusing. To clarify, I needed the initramfs edited to conatin the sense bootclasspath. I will try to rebuild my own, I was just thinking that since this isn't even my device, and I have never done anything rom wise with it, I would try to ask the community for help.
I sent you a pm awhile ago, a few days after I posted here. I'm not very good with samsung kernels or zimages or whatever you wanna call them, which is why I asked you for help.
This was just a little project I wanted to try out, and since its not my device I didn't want to go at it alone. Sorry for asking for help.
I just read a little bit ago that the motorola cliq 2 just got Gingerbread after a year and four months of no updates at all. Do you think this means we have a chance for GB or just a tease that one old phone gets special support and not the others? And if we got true ginger would it help with the ROM/Mod nation or would it just be putting sparkles on the corpse of our phone?
Probably not. That news inst super recent, and motorola supports their phones a little bit better then samsung. If we get gingerbread it will be through the community more than likely.
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Darn, got my hopes up for nothing :/ Oh and sorry for not noticing the ginger thread you just posted.
Nah its all good bro its all a hypathetical thread really anyways.
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Motorola is different from Samsung pushing update wise.
This phone has passed a year so Samsung no longer supports it.
TruthBeTold said:
Don't give yourself false hope, it's already been said support has been dropped in favor for a new Sidekick that will be coming out..
You're only hope here is if Reactive stops acting like a prick to you guys, but you all let me know how that goes.
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I smell Jin ;-)
He's not acting like a prick you are now be gone pls.
Okay, off of the argument is there any chance of a custom made Ginger or is it hypothetical or? I've seen a few people tweaking kernels and such in their threads but Is there a real answer or is it just maybe?
Sakuryu said:
Okay, off of the argument is there any chance of a custom made Ginger or is it hypothetical or? I've seen a few people tweaking kernels and such in their threads but Is there a real answer or is it just maybe?
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Gingerbread on Sidekick is currently only hypothetical. My take is that it might still be possible, but very difficult.
Sduvick managed to boot an AOSP 2.2 kernel up to a certain point, but IIRC, it was still far from usable. No graphics. His work is available in github.
Winxixi got CM7 booting and into the GUI, but with incomplete driver support. I think he got frustrated and left. His work is also available in github.
I don't know if winxixi would consider continuing development, or if he has moved on to a different device. If he would continue development, and the rest of us helped with troubleshooting, research, etc., perhaps we can get a fullly operational Gingerbread.
It's really just a big project, very difficult for an individual to tackle to completion. Dividing the labor might improve the outlook.
TruthBeTold said:
Well, like others have said, maybe not GB, but there's CM6 which can be ported (we're just lacking the knowledge of how to do it)
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actually cm6 is being ported as we speak, piece by piece.
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actually cm6 is being ported as we speak, piece by piece.
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Yes, it's being ported using the machete toolchain.
What's the Machete Toolchain? And is CM going to help us get a little farther up the Droid food chain? I mean I don't expect Jelly Bean on my phone but Ginger, or a ginger mock up would be cool, I would like some kind of exploit for the ICS exclusive apps and such to make it a bit smooth (I know It's a basically unattainable dream don't worry
It's a bit of a joke. Machete like this: http://images.google.com/search?q=machete+blade&btnG=Search&tbm=isch&hl=en&biw=&bih=&gbv=1
I.e. he's hacking off pieces Touchwiz as though with a knife.
I think CM6 will if not help, atleast give hope towards CM7 coming to this device.
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I think CM6 will if not help, atleast give hope towards CM7 coming to this device.
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Honestly I'd be thrilled if we gained a vanilla, built-from-source CM6 ROM, especially if the sources/patches were made fully available.
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It's a bit of a joke. Machete like this: http://images.google.com/search?q=machete+blade&btnG=Search&tbm=isch&hl=en&biw=&bih=&gbv=1
I.e. he's hacking off pieces Touchwiz as though with a knife.
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Its a little more involved then that. Lots of AOSP/CM6 patches to replace the Touchwiz components. Piece by piece im riding the stock rom of Touchwiz. I had to compile and mingle code to get AOSP messaging working correctly.
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ReActiveDisorder said:
Its a little more involved then that. Lots of AOSP/CM6 patches to replace the Touchwiz components. Piece by piece im riding the stock rom of Touchwiz. I had to compile and mingle code to get AOSP messaging working correctly.
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I know, but the machete image fits better with my feelings toward Touchwiz.
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I know, but the machete image fits better with my feelings toward Touchwiz.
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ditto.
ReActiveDisorder said:
Its a little more involved then that. Lots of AOSP/CM6 patches to replace the Touchwiz components. Piece by piece im riding the stock rom of Touchwiz. I had to compile and mingle code to get AOSP messaging working correctly.
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is it working with our LED's now?
yoyowhatup22 said:
is it working with our LED's now?
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This device is super unique when it comes to the LED lighting. NO other device has this kind of LED setup. So I have no device that is all AOSP to compile it from.
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ReActiveDisorder said:
This device is super unique when it comes to the LED lighting. NO other device has this kind of LED setup. So I have no device that is all AOSP to compile it from.
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thats what i figure. aosp tries to send a green LED signal out, and we have no green