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Who are the Dev for D720?

So who are the developers that are going to be developing for the Samsung Nexus S 4G (D720)? I figured this is a question everyone has been wondering. Im very excited to get started with my Nexus S 4G! (Previously came from the HTC Evo and there were alot of dedicated dev., Hope to see the same here)
P.S I didnt put this in the Q&A Because this is a direct question to the developers in this section about the current ROM's Available. Please don't be upset : )

I hope netarchy puts up a rom with his liquid smooth touches. His evo rom + kernel was ILL.
The thing is, the nexus s and ns4g are dev phones, bare bone AOSP, so a custom rom is just gunna be "themed" a bit and/or the real "improvements" are in the Kernel or any additional apps the dev has created.
I would love to see a bunch of ports make their way over. I would imagine that a dev phone would be one of the easiest to port/build for (easy for a dev, not the average human )

in a way, we all are.. who is to say that someone has to be a "dev" to make something, or find out what may fix something? on the heroc we had hundreds of users sitting in an irc room helping each other trying to figure out why things didnt work and what would happen if we pressed this button 7 times instead of 4..
so in short grab some code and lets start working my repo is synced and already compiled im working with the rest of the ACS team to see if we cant bring some lovins on over from the epic/evo
trying to come up with a good name for the rom >.>

Well, its very time consuming. I did alot of theming in the past, then wrote a few apps for WebOS, but just don't seem to have the time anymore with fulltime work, college, etc.
You are right tho, anyone can learn and the nexus line are a great place to start, simple and not complicated. Come on young high-school minds with oodles of time! Make ur name known! Lol
Really tho, I wish I could contribute more
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You know I have some time since school is over and now I'm just looking for work to pass me by til its starts again. NO BS if somebody could point me to the right way help me along the way. I would make a rom for the ns4g. Always wanted to just for self pride not for glory or money. So I'm here and ready!

I know alot of you guys don't know him. But ask any Droid owner about Peter Alfonso (BuglessPete). You couldn't ask for a better dev to work on stuff for your phone. * no pressure Pete
Seriously though shabbypenguin hit the nail on the head. We are in this together ...
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mikeyinid said:
I know alot of you guys don't know him. But ask any Droid owner about Peter Alfonso (BuglessPete). You couldn't ask for a better dev to work on stuff for your phone. * no pressure Pete
Seriously though shabbypenguin hit the nail on the head. We are in this together ...
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lol thanks Ill see what I can throw together

You had one of my favorite EVO ROMS easily.
In b4 this is in q&a
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ok, whats everyone think of ChillyWIlly rom?

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ok, whats everyone think of ChillyWIlly rom?
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Makes me think of Will Smith
J/K, I like...

Im on a campaign going to evo threads and saying how great this phone is. Maybe they will switch. Putting nexus in high demand
Uncle Jimmy says hello

903tex said:
You know I have some time since school is over and now I'm just looking for work to pass me by til its starts again. NO BS if somebody could point me to the right way help me along the way. I would make a rom for the ns4g. Always wanted to just for self pride not for glory or money. So I'm here and ready!
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This number one thing to do is get ur pc ready with the right software and drivers (there are a couple applications for compiling/decompiling and signing, not just what u use for root)
There's a thread around here about theming for the epic. It has a nice intro to the basic setup ull need, just be sure to replace anything epic with sns, u can then move on to ROMs once u understand what composes a ROM. When I'm back at my PC I could probably hook u up w a good place to start, but right now I'm out and about after this heathen Bulls game! Woot woot!
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lol thanks Ill see what I can throw together
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If I may suggest, Epic 4G is just about the same as the NS4G. From what I hear they got our stock to work on Epic just after I posted this.
I know they have the CM7 half way ported on Epic as well as the obvious stock with the TouchWiz interface for whoever likes that stuff I figured this would be the easiest place to start.

stop spamming this, its not going to work, for the same reasons why i explained in your thread about it

It probably will work as much as flashing a Droid ROM onto a Milestone...same hardware...epic fail.

more so then that all they currently have is a .32 cm7 kernel a semi working .35 cm7 kernel and their stock .32 touchwiz kernel.. we only have .35 stock kernel, even if you could get past the bootloops good luck trying to make a phone call or get crap to stop force closing

Spamming? Chill out man. I'm just trying to help.
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How to build a custom rom

I think I'm ready .I've been making modded patches and programs from scratch for Xbox 360 (I know, I know, its nothing compared to this) Just have no clue where to start. And I don't want to built it from a kitchen I want a full ground up. Just a few pointers would be nice.
EDIT : should I just start with a kitchen?
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best advice I can give you is, learn anything and everything you can about linux, and check out the android chef forum.

Baby steps. I think it would be a good decision to start with a kitchen. Just to get more familiar with things. Then gradually get deeper into it.
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Well, maybe you could start from already-made ROMS? if permitted...
Unless you wanna start from scratch...
I dont know haha, Ive only been planning to make skins soo XD

hyun18 said:
Well, maybe you could start from already-made ROMS? if permitted...
Unless you wanna start from scratch...
I dont know haha, Ive only been planning to make skins soo XD
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That's one thing I didn't want to do. If I was going to start from a rom, it would be rotted stock most likely
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I'd say that with the android kitchen (somewhere on xda) to get your feet wet. You'll see some new terms you may haven't seen before and some of the basics of rom making.Eventually your gonna have to decompile apk's to be able to to xml edits and have to recompile them (so much fun ) and kernel compiling. If your stuck on doing something and a already released rom has that feature i say take a look inside the rom and see where you could start (not copying and pasting) to get that feature working in your rom.
I'm sure there's differnet approaches to learning rom making, i did it this way on my LG Ally which is how i have an understanding of how rom making works. Plan on doing this with my Inspire and sense based roms. I should also note i do this for personal knowdledge gain so anything i cook up is never released.
I'd also take a dab into learning some linux as well. Espically if you ever have to use adb shell, having a understanding of linux commands will be a plus

Anyone interested in gb

now that development seems to be moving along lets use this thread to discuss our GB development even though its in the general section
First off can anyone begin with telling us what is needed to get GB started on this phone?

dsexton702 said:
now that development seems to be moving along lets use this thread to discuss our GB development even though its in the general section
First off can anyone begin with telling us what is needed to get GB started on this phone?
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I thought we had to wait for Samsung on GB? Dont get me wrong I would love to see it and if anyone can get it done that would be great. I also see where your coming from, with all these minds we can maybe get a port from another source.
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GDofWR420 said:
I thought we had to wait for Samsung on GB? Dont get me wrong I would love to see it and if anyone can get it done that would be great. I also see where your coming from, with all these minds we can maybe get a port from another source.
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well according to some foreigners GB was released for the galaxy family about 2 to 3 weeks ago
but that was a foreign release not an american release, im not sure if that matters

your rite dX but i think the issue is with drivers... like i'm sure u could get gb running... but would be like having an ipad1 lol... if that makes sense....

Yeah I think only the S2 has gingerbread and that's the only one we can port it from. The issues are usually drivers and most of the time we'll lose battery life.

Nah the original galaxy S has gingerbread. We have a kernel and an ext4 fs now so it shouldnt be as bad as trying to port it over like before.

Eric-1987 said:
Nah the original galaxy S has gingerbread. We have a kernel and an ext4 fs now so it shouldnt be as bad as trying to port it over like before.
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If it would be possible that would be great cause I think it could really be done with the right minds in on it.
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I'm getting my linux set back up in the next couple of days. I plan on attacking this as soon as I can. I have successfully compiled GB for a device that shouldn't have seen anything past eclair, so I will do all I can for this one. I have a sh*t ton of homework to do though. This is my first ever Samsung, so there is a BIG learning curve for me.

I came from an Evo 4g so this is DEFINITELY a learning curve for me too! Everything on my evo was easier but this gives me more of a sense of pride. My phone is a beast thanks to the developers!

mad_fitter said:
I'm getting my linux set back up in the next couple of days. I plan on attacking this as soon as I can. I have successfully compiled GB for a device that shouldn't have seen anything past eclair, so I will do all I can for this one. I have a sh*t ton of homework to do though. This is my first ever Samsung, so there is a BIG learning curve for me.
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You know were here to test when when you get something going.(as long as its not past odining if we screw up.lol ). But seriously I'm sure the whole community here would support you, I know I do.
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GDofWR420 said:
You know were here to test when when you get something going.(as long as its not past odining if we screw up.lol ). But seriously I'm sure the whole community here would support you, I know I do.
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Well, here is where I'm coming from:
While up to this point everything we have, as far as roms, are ports (we don't really have a choice because samsung is stingy with their source codes). While this is great for most of what we use, some parts that are really deep in the code (java, framework, device specific hardware, etc....) will HAVE to be compiled in one way or another. You cant just grab the GB file system and try to slam it into our device...never happen. Far too many parts and pieces rely on each other. So once I can get my stuff straight, I will start a clean repo of the GB source (I already have the samsung kd1 source stuff) and try to merge them the best I can. Then the sh*t hits the fan. Will it compile? Probably not.......Now we have to resort to past experience, help from others that have compiled, and google your ass off!
As an example: Shared libs are a freakin nightmare!! Did you know that things like camera, video, and even some audio stuff use the same exact libs? I didn't either until I started compiling. So if one of these is broken....none of it will work. Probably won't even compile, let alone boot.

I'll support anyone who wants to do something productive with our phone.

mad_fitter said:
Well, here is where I'm coming from:
While up to this point everything we have, as far as roms, are ports (we don't really have a choice because samsung is stingy with their source codes). While this is great for most of what we use, some parts that are really deep in the code (java, framework, device specific hardware, etc....) will HAVE to be compiled in one way or another. You cant just grab the GB file system and try to slam it into our device...never happen. Far too many parts and pieces rely on each other. So once I can get my stuff straight, I will start a clean repo of the GB source (I already have the samsung kd1 source stuff) and try to merge them the best I can. Then the sh*t hits the fan. Will it compile? Probably not.......Now we have to resort to past experience, help from others that have compiled, and google your ass off!
As an example: Shared libs are a freakin nightmare!! Did you know that things like camera, video, and even some audio stuff use the same exact libs? I didn't either until I started compiling. So if one of these is broken....none of it will work. Probably won't even compile, let alone boot.
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Damn bro that sounds like a super challenge. I'm sure the people in this forum could help. Lets just hope others want this like we do. That's wild about those lib files. So if 1 is broke you have to find it and fix it to compile? That's rough.
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GDofWR420 said:
Damn bro that sounds like a super challenge. I'm sure the people in this forum could help. Lets just hope others want this like we do. That's wild about those lib files. So if 1 is broke you have to find it and fix it to compile? That's rough.
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Sh*t dude.....I had some lib issues that have snagged me up for days. It's tough, but it is possible. The reason I want GB so bad is I have seen what it does for other devices. The main advantage....SPEED!!!! Lots of new badass options too

mad_fitter said:
Sh*t dude.....I had some lib issues that have snagged me up for days. It's tough, but it is possible. The reason I want GB so bad is I have seen what it does for other devices. The main advantage....SPEED!!!! Lots of new badass options too
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I heard it does wonders for the battery also. Do you know this to be true? This is my first android device and I'm all about learning new things. Ever since I got this phone I've been wanting a laptop so I can learn to dev more.
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GDofWR420 said:
I heard it does wonders for the battery also. Do you know this to be true? This is my first android device and I'm all about learning new things. Ever since I got this phone I've been wanting a laptop so I can learn to dev more.
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Oh absolutely. The key is how the file system reads itself in GB. The cpu just plain 'ol doesn't have to work as hard. Better battery life, faster and smoother overall performance, graphics, etc...... Plus like I said, it has features that froyo just doesn't have. Absolutely no need for task killers anymore. It's all integrated into the system.
And to answer your question, yes. If one part of that lib doesn't jive......compiling just stops, end of story. Now you have to search through all of your source files and TRY to find out what's wrong. Then google google google for any sign of a solution. This is virgin ground when compiling aosp from source. Not easy at all.
That doesn't touch the tip of the iceberg either. Try modifying code (which has to be done sometimes). C, C++, Java, etc.....sh*t can get hairy.

mad_fitter said:
Oh absolutely. The key is how the file system reads itself in GB. The cpu just plain 'ol doesn't have to work as hard. Better battery life, faster and smoother overall performance, graphics, etc...... Plus like I said, it has features that froyo just doesn't have. Absolutely no need for task killers anymore. It's all integrated into the system.
And to answer your question, yes. If one part of that lib doesn't jive......compiling just stops, end of story. Now you have to search through all of your source files and TRY to find out what's wrong. Then google google google for any sign of a solution. This is virgin ground when compiling aosp from source. Not easy at all.
That doesn't touch the tip of the iceberg either. Try modifying code (which has to be done sometimes). C, C++, Java, etc.....sh*t can get hairy.
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im hopping on the UBUNTU bandwagon today,
its time to start learning some code so we can get GB on this damn thing
and yes i saw that the galaxy s has gb as well not just the gs2
looks like we got hell to go through mad_fitter and anyone else who will join our suicidal mission

dsexton702 said:
im hopping on the UBUNTU bandwagon today,
its time to start learning some code so we can get GB on this damn thing
and yes i saw that the galaxy s has gb as well not just the gs2
looks like we got hell to go through mad_fitter and anyone else who will join our suicidal mission
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Installing ubuntu 9.10 on a throwaround laptop. I'm down to go at this with u guys!
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robbbbit said:
Installing ubuntu 9.10 on a throwaround laptop. I'm down to go at this with u guys!
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yayyyyy!! i was waiting for that reply robbbbit hahaha!!

mad_fitter said:
Oh absolutely. The key is how the file system reads itself in GB. The cpu just plain 'ol doesn't have to work as hard. Better battery life, faster and smoother overall performance, graphics, etc...... Plus like I said, it has features that froyo just doesn't have. Absolutely no need for task killers anymore. It's all integrated into the system.
And to answer your question, yes. If one part of that lib doesn't jive......compiling just stops, end of story. Now you have to search through all of your source files and TRY to find out what's wrong. Then google google google for any sign of a solution. This is virgin ground when compiling aosp from source. Not easy at all.
That doesn't touch the tip of the iceberg either. Try modifying code (which has to be done sometimes). C, C++, Java, etc.....sh*t can get hairy.
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I tried my hand at c++ when I used to have a PSP and I messed around and wrote a few starter programs(hello world, a counter,mp3 player)to get me familiar with code. Yea that stuff makes my brain hurt when trying to fix an error, compiling the mp3 player was hard cause I kept getting errors, took me 2 Days to get it to compile into eboot.pbp for psp and it would still freeze when trying to exit so I never got to finish it.
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Android Dev Enviroment

Hi,
I have been hunting for days and trying different stuff without luck.
Im trying to find a decent guide on setting up an eviroment for compiling apps.
Nearly all guide relate to ROM building and not application building.
I managed to get Cygwin working, but it would give stupid errors on compiling SDL source, even though other parts of code that reference SDL compile fine.
I put this down to Cygwin, I had simular problems when compiling on PSP.
Going back to an earlier version seemed to solve that problem, but I dont fancy messing about. Already lost 2 days of my life, .
I then tried Linux and Eclispe, that didnt work out either as apparently there is a problem that causes eclipse to be missing Android from the prefs list.
Tried work arounds, but nothing worked.
As I said, spent 2 days trying to solve this. There are to many guides and contradicting info. Even the official Android site is confusing.
I wanted to play around with UAE4Droid. As I have just bought a tablet, that runs UAE4Droid full speed and Im very impressed. Never considered Android before, bought tablet on a Whim, best thing I have bought in ages.
Any help would be great.

You can try MIT Appinventor by Google, it's esay to use!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ADwPLSFeY8 (I don't know how to correctly post the video u.u)

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You can try MIT Appinventor by Google, it's esay to use!
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Thanks for the reply, thats not quite what Im after.

Did you install the ADT plugin in eclipse? This has all the necessary stuff for Android.
Also, a Linux partition is preferable over cgwin or a vm IMO...
Have you tried any of the utilities in the Chef Central section? Tommytommatoe has a great utility for AOL's does most anything you can think of. It also sets up your environment automagically by script. It will add everything to PATH and make sure everything is properly configured.
There are some other goodies in the Chef Central section too!
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imheroldman said:
Did you install the ADT plugin in eclipse? This has all the necessary stuff for Android.
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I did, I also tried the work arounds to.
imheroldman said:
Also, a Linux partition is preferable over cgwin or a vm IMO...
Have you tried any of the utilities in the Chef Central section? Tommytommatoe has a great utility for AOL's does most anything you can think of. It also sets up your environment automagically by script. It will add everything to PATH and make sure everything is properly configured.
There are some other goodies in the Chef Central section too!
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Will check it out, thanks.
EDIT:- cant find anything on there, will keep hunting.

Here is TT's Android utility:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5623817
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Here is TT's Android utility:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5623817
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Cutom back covers and stylus?

Self porting interest?

How much interest is there for people to learn how to port a ROM?
I know there are ton's of ROMs out there that are awesome. Some we have and some we don't have. For those of you who want to learn how to port a ROM to our device, would you be interested in a device specific porting tutorial? If so, I will make one.
I know there are TONS of porting guides out there but they aren't very informative on actually what to do. Except for Lens_Flare's and Proxuser's MIUI porting guides. Which are generally helpful enough and that's how I started to learn and then figured out how to do it for just about any ROM.
If there is a large enough interest in learning how to do it for yourself or for the Evita community in general, I will make a VERY detailed NOOB friendly guide.

I am definitely very interested. I started poking around the sense 5 port to see if I could fix bluetooth and quickly figured out that I was in over my head. Would love to see a guide to more than just theming.
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tlazarus said:
I am definitely very interested. I started poking around the sense 5 port to see if I could fix bluetooth and quickly figured out that I was in over my head. Would love to see a guide to more than just theming.
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I wouldn't go that deep just yet if you don't have any knowledge of smali code. That's what porting deals with, and I'm still learning the coding structure for smali. I have knowledge but I'm still learning it. lol
I'm currently working on the bluetooth issue for that specific ROM.
I will put together a guide over the next few days. I'm going to be making it VERY detailed so there will be as little confusion as possible.

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I wouldn't go that deep just yet if you don't have any knowledge of smali code. That's what porting deals with, and I'm still learning the coding structure for smali. I have knowledge but I'm still learning it. lol
I'm currently working on the bluetooth issue for that specific ROM.
I will put together a guide over the next few days. I'm going to be making it VERY detailed so there will be as little confusion as possible.
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I too would love this. If you have any good smali code reference links that you might be able to PM me, I'd love that too

Would love to see you put something together. The guide I follow doesn't cover everything I believe... The first few ROMs ported fine.. The others will hang at boot or fail in twrp etc. Very interested myrder
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Yea do it. I want the new paranoid android xD
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If you make it I'll have my next must read
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I wouldn't go that deep just yet if you don't have any knowledge of smali code.
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Yeah, I figured that out pretty quickly I actually have some experience reading and interpreting code, although mostly c#. My bigger issue is that unlike with windows, I don't understand what handles hardware and driver management or the boot process of Android. Thus, it is like trying to learn two things at once.
Definitely looking forward to your guide - it is greatly appreciated!
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I definitely could use a guide too. Sense 5 was kind of like dumped on me lol. Since then I been on a crash course to learn how to port read logcats etc... Grinder19,Myrder, chubbzlou,carl1961, and others have really helped me a lot. Is like to see a guide go into more detail on like setting up aroma and such.
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+1
I want to port Paranoid Android 3+

ImagioX1 said:
I definitely could use a guide too. Sense 5 was kind of like dumped on me lol. Since then I been on a crash course to learn how to port read logcats etc... Grinder19,Myrder, chubbzlou,carl1961, and others have really helped me a lot. Is like to see a guide go into more detail on like setting up aroma and such.
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I don't deal with AROMA.. That's something I need to learn my self on. Over the next few days I'll put a guide together. Since I have so many people who want to learn. makes me happy. lol

exad said:
I too would love this. If you have any good smali code reference links that you might be able to PM me, I'd love that too
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Google has many links to learning smali. I do believe codeaurora.com or what ever that website is has a decent reference to it.
InflatedTitan said:
Would love to see you put something together. The guide I follow doesn't cover everything I believe... The first few ROMs ported fine.. The others will hang at boot or fail in twrp etc. Very interested myrder
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If they hang at boot, logcats are helpful. Also going into the system_server itself through shell. As for TWRP fails, best to pull up a terminal and "adb pull /tmp/recovery.log" most of the time it's a certain character in the updater script. I once had a corrupted .zip that I compiled through the android kitchen. Took me awhile to figure out that it was corrupt, lol.
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Yeah, I figured that out pretty quickly I actually have some experience reading and interpreting code, although mostly c#. My bigger issue is that unlike with windows, I don't understand what handles hardware and driver management or the boot process of Android. Thus, it is like trying to learn two things at once.
Definitely looking forward to your guide - it is greatly appreciated!
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The best OS to port android ROMs on is a linux distro, right now I'm on Ubuntu 12.04LTS. Only because I'm having probelms with my TV as my desktop monitor so I'm using my dualboot on my laptop. I stay off when-doze as much as possible unless it's to download music or for school. Don't feel like using VMware for adobe or Word....

Thanks. I did search Google and found great stuff. I only asked in case you stumbled across a site you prefered over others.
I also use ubuntu 12.04 with windows 7 in virtualbox for when windows is needed. I chose 12.04 over 13.04 only because there's a bug with the included kernel that breaks the sound through hdmi for my ati card.
One could even install ubuntu on an external esata drive for decent speed, portability and so as not to mess up any internal storage configuration.
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