I just read a little bit ago that the motorola cliq 2 just got Gingerbread after a year and four months of no updates at all. Do you think this means we have a chance for GB or just a tease that one old phone gets special support and not the others? And if we got true ginger would it help with the ROM/Mod nation or would it just be putting sparkles on the corpse of our phone?
Probably not. That news inst super recent, and motorola supports their phones a little bit better then samsung. If we get gingerbread it will be through the community more than likely.
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Darn, got my hopes up for nothing :/ Oh and sorry for not noticing the ginger thread you just posted.
Nah its all good bro its all a hypathetical thread really anyways.
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Motorola is different from Samsung pushing update wise.
This phone has passed a year so Samsung no longer supports it.
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Don't give yourself false hope, it's already been said support has been dropped in favor for a new Sidekick that will be coming out..
You're only hope here is if Reactive stops acting like a prick to you guys, but you all let me know how that goes.
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I smell Jin ;-)
He's not acting like a prick you are now be gone pls.
Okay, off of the argument is there any chance of a custom made Ginger or is it hypothetical or? I've seen a few people tweaking kernels and such in their threads but Is there a real answer or is it just maybe?
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Okay, off of the argument is there any chance of a custom made Ginger or is it hypothetical or? I've seen a few people tweaking kernels and such in their threads but Is there a real answer or is it just maybe?
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Gingerbread on Sidekick is currently only hypothetical. My take is that it might still be possible, but very difficult.
Sduvick managed to boot an AOSP 2.2 kernel up to a certain point, but IIRC, it was still far from usable. No graphics. His work is available in github.
Winxixi got CM7 booting and into the GUI, but with incomplete driver support. I think he got frustrated and left. His work is also available in github.
I don't know if winxixi would consider continuing development, or if he has moved on to a different device. If he would continue development, and the rest of us helped with troubleshooting, research, etc., perhaps we can get a fullly operational Gingerbread.
It's really just a big project, very difficult for an individual to tackle to completion. Dividing the labor might improve the outlook.
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Well, like others have said, maybe not GB, but there's CM6 which can be ported (we're just lacking the knowledge of how to do it)
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actually cm6 is being ported as we speak, piece by piece.
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actually cm6 is being ported as we speak, piece by piece.
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Yes, it's being ported using the machete toolchain.
What's the Machete Toolchain? And is CM going to help us get a little farther up the Droid food chain? I mean I don't expect Jelly Bean on my phone but Ginger, or a ginger mock up would be cool, I would like some kind of exploit for the ICS exclusive apps and such to make it a bit smooth (I know It's a basically unattainable dream don't worry
It's a bit of a joke. Machete like this: http://images.google.com/search?q=machete+blade&btnG=Search&tbm=isch&hl=en&biw=&bih=&gbv=1
I.e. he's hacking off pieces Touchwiz as though with a knife.
I think CM6 will if not help, atleast give hope towards CM7 coming to this device.
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I think CM6 will if not help, atleast give hope towards CM7 coming to this device.
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Honestly I'd be thrilled if we gained a vanilla, built-from-source CM6 ROM, especially if the sources/patches were made fully available.
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It's a bit of a joke. Machete like this: http://images.google.com/search?q=machete+blade&btnG=Search&tbm=isch&hl=en&biw=&bih=&gbv=1
I.e. he's hacking off pieces Touchwiz as though with a knife.
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Its a little more involved then that. Lots of AOSP/CM6 patches to replace the Touchwiz components. Piece by piece im riding the stock rom of Touchwiz. I had to compile and mingle code to get AOSP messaging working correctly.
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Its a little more involved then that. Lots of AOSP/CM6 patches to replace the Touchwiz components. Piece by piece im riding the stock rom of Touchwiz. I had to compile and mingle code to get AOSP messaging working correctly.
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I know, but the machete image fits better with my feelings toward Touchwiz.
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I know, but the machete image fits better with my feelings toward Touchwiz.
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ditto.
ReActiveDisorder said:
Its a little more involved then that. Lots of AOSP/CM6 patches to replace the Touchwiz components. Piece by piece im riding the stock rom of Touchwiz. I had to compile and mingle code to get AOSP messaging working correctly.
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is it working with our LED's now?
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is it working with our LED's now?
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This device is super unique when it comes to the LED lighting. NO other device has this kind of LED setup. So I have no device that is all AOSP to compile it from.
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This device is super unique when it comes to the LED lighting. NO other device has this kind of LED setup. So I have no device that is all AOSP to compile it from.
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thats what i figure. aosp tries to send a green LED signal out, and we have no green
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I know that the Wildfire has a different resolution than our phones, but, seeing as they are discussing porting it from the Legend, and that phone is similar to ours, can it be done?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793719
Possible but ALOT of porting. A whole different framework.
And next time post in the right section please. THERE is a Q&A section
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I know that the Wildfire has a different resolution than our phones, but, seeing as they are discussing porting it from the Legend, and that phone is similar to ours, can it be done?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793719
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Would be a ton of work for a dev... too much work right now
Just curious but would porting the new desire be easier? It seems closer to the Hero and it has 2.2 with Sense
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Just curious but would porting the new desire be easier? It seems closer to the Hero and it has 2.2 with Sense
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Desire is different framework I believe... I think it would actually be more difficult.
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Desire is different framework I believe... I think it would actually be more difficult.
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Ahh, I wasnt sure. I just knew it was advertised a while back as "The Hero 2" or whatever and thought it was similar.
ok here is where we are at with a wildfire port. long way if I and beezy420 decide to keep moving forward with this. Special thanks to darchs kernel from cyan mod.
I will update later about all the none funtioning and will probably post the rom for other to just play with.
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ok here is where we are at with a wildfire port. long way if I and beezy420 decide to keep moving forward with this. Special thanks to darchs kernel from cyan mod.
I will update later about all the none funtioning and will probably post the rom for other to just play with.
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Damn you lol.
I just got it to boot cleanly about an hour ago.
nfinitefx45 if you guys manage to pull this off I'll personally drive to your house and take you out to dinner.
Actually, I was being facetious, but I was using it to illustrate how thankful I'd be.
I will also be a total guinea pig for this...I'm not a mod of dev in any sense of the word but I'd love to help out finding bugs.
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nfinitefx45 if you guys manage to pull this off I'll personally drive to your house and take you out to dinner.
Actually, I was being facetious, but I was using it to illustrate how thankful I'd be.
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I am a professional chef.. ill MAKE him dinner lol
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Decad3nce said:
Damn you lol.
I just got it to boot cleanly about an hour ago.
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Well brother keep on going I will try to catch up with you after work and see where your at with it maybe compare notes, I was just playing with it last night to see where we would stand with something like this. Still think the legend will be the one to port though. as the graphic work required for this alone would be a monster job.
Glad to see someone else interested in bring froyo to the hero.
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I am a professional chef.. ill MAKE him dinner lol
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Alright, how about we just go to your restaurant and we all have a grand ol' time talking (loudly, of course) about how great our Sprint Heros are? Everyone in the restaurant with an iPhone is gonna be so jealous...
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Alright, how about we just go to your restaurant and we all have a grand ol' time talking (loudly, of course) about how great our Sprint Heros are? Everyone in the restaurant with an iPhone is gonna be so jealous...
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No Iphones allowed in my restaurant
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No Iphones allowed in my restaurant
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Sounds like my kind of place.
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No Iphones allowed in my restaurant
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"It has come to our attention that Iphone owners are leaving scanty tips because they can't get out of the Apple/AT&T money vacuum. We have have decided to no longer serve Iphone owners at our discretion. If you own an Iphone, please kindly vacate the premise to avoid DNA being accidentally put into your food. Thank you for your cooperation concerning this matter."
Classic lol!!!!!!
Shouldn't adjusting the pixel density make the items show up correctly on screen?
It would effectively cut the resolution on our Heroes, though.
And of course, the Legend would be the easiest port, but the since it's not out yet, we have the option of making do with the Wildfire or standing pat. (Not that I'd accuse any devs of that, seeing as this port looks hard as hell).
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Shouldn't adjusting the pixel density make the items show up correctly on screen?
It would effectively cut the resolution on our Heroes, though.
And of course, the Legend would be the easiest port, but the since it's not out yet, we have the option of making do with the Wildfire or standing pat. (Not that I'd accuse any devs of that, seeing as this port looks hard as hell).
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well I tried different resolutions but havent found one that looks much better. The legend should be soon as it was due for release at the same time as the legend.
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ok here is where we are at with a wildfire port. long way if I and beezy420 decide to keep moving forward with this. Special thanks to darchs kernel from cyan mod.
I will update later about all the none funtioning and will probably post the rom for other to just play with.
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Wow, this is actually really awesome man! Keep it up, would love a sense 2.2 rom!!!!
HOLY ****... if you guys pull this off ill even donate something.
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HOLY ****... if you guys pull this off ill even donate something.
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I know right!
Ok seriously...noobnl was our only dev on the cyan team. Is anyone planning on taking it up?
Noobnl can you plz just cme back for a litle get it booting and working ill help!
I had the evo, and noobl your the only reason I switched to the epic. You need to be on the team.
Ok I'm off my soapbox promise
About cyan...could we just replace the anroid.com.phone from the one on the epic? Its the fc u get when u boot up. Id imagine some libs would have to be screwed around with. I'm not that good but am a quick learner so please get at me if you know how to compile and can lead me in the right direction.
Cyan ftw!
I will be compiling a new cyanogenmod buildtonightwith the new init and kernel in dk17 I made a ton of changes in at last minutes
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Pretty sure noobnl makes the source available. You don't have to be "on the team" to work on it.
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I will be compiling a new cyanogenmod build tonight with the new init and kernel in dk17 I made a ton of changes in at last minutes
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now that's exciting
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I will be compiling a new cyanogenmod buildtonightwith the new init and kernel in dk17 I made a ton of changes in at last minutes
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I must say Noob, You will be missed. Your andromeda ROM was the first one I tried out on my epic, and I have been eagerly awaiting CM on my phone, but I understand that work/school comes first. I go to college and am an assistant manager at Best Buy Mobile myself >.< the drains on ones time are extensive. But for all the work you've done, thank you!!! Here's hoping you'll leave with Cyanogen Mod Bang!
Good stuff!
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Noobnl = Cyanogenmod!!!
WOW, didn't except this at all. Very very very sad to see you go Noobnl. Thank you for all your work! We all owe you tons for your work in the community. Hoping to see you back soon
There's a few other people working on this, too. Noobnl did most of the work and effort, but that doesn't mean that because he won't develop anymore this will be dead.
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I will be compiling a new cyanogenmod buildtonightwith the new init and kernel in dk17 I made a ton of changes in at last minutes
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This is great news!!!
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This is great news!!!
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still without working radio however i presume? you shall be missed noob
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I will be compiling a new cyanogenmod buildtonightwith the new init and kernel in dk17 I made a ton of changes in at last minutes
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You kno your MY hero, right? Out of everyone who supports you...u n krim. Y'all the bomb digity.
I'm learning to compile, learning fast. I will pimp cyan out...you can take a break ;-)
Whats the big deal about CM6?I found Syndicate barebone to be almost just as light and fast as CM6,with few more tweaks Syndicate can be next CM6,but CM6 is nice and Noobnl will definitely be missed.
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Whats the big deal about CM6?I found Syndicate barebone to be almost just as light and fast as CM6,with few more tweaks Syndicate can be next CM6,but CM6 is nice and Noobl will definitely be missed
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well I guess the main differences between the ACS and the CM Team are that the CyanogenMod team is just better!
I jest I jest. I have used both CM6 on other phones and Syndicate on my Epic and I appreciate the work any dev does. Especially considering how barebones the Epic forums will soon be if things keep going the way they have.
However, the main differences with CM6 and Syndicate have less to do with tweaks and more to do with source. CM is built from the ground up off of pure old android. Off of the original sdk from Google. Syndicate is more or less based off of the latest and greatest Samsung firmware. CM6 isn't just customized to be light (although its always been a huge plus) it also comes with things that just aren't possible through any other ROMs. Touch to focus inside the camcorder for one, or swiping away notifications ala webOS style. Also building in a modified version of the way Sammy did the power widgets in the notification shade from SCRATCH. The menus are much more functional in CM than anywhere else.
The only way to really see why people get so excited here whenever the words "CM6" and "Epic4G" are mentioned in the same sentence is to try it out on a supported device yourself. Than you will see that CM6 is established. They have long been around. They don't just modify ROM's, they create. They make the product that I would love to see come stock from Google. CM6 = One of the best experiences you will ever have running android on your phone. Period.
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I will be compiling a new cyanogenmod buildtonightwith the new init and kernel in dk17 I made a ton of changes in at last minutes
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Exciting! Can't wait to test it out.
If it's anything like the current alpha, it's sure to be a winner.
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well I guess the main differences between the ACS and the CM Team are that the CyanogenMod team is just better!
I jest I jest. I have used both CM6 on other phones and Syndicate on my Epic and I appreciate the work any dev does. Especially considering how barebones the Epic forums will soon be if things keep going the way they have.
However, the main differences with CM6 and Syndicate have less to do with tweaks and more to do with source. CM is built from the ground up off of pure old android. Off of the original sdk from Google. Syndicate is more or less based off of the latest and greatest Samsung firmware. CM6 isn't just customized to be light (although its always been a huge plus) it also comes with things that just aren't possible through any other ROMs. Touch to focus inside the camcorder for one, or swiping away notifications ala webOS style. Also building in a modified version of the way Sammy did the power widgets in the notification shade from SCRATCH. The menus are much more functional in CM than anywhere else.
The only way to really see why people get so excited here whenever the words "CM6" and "Epic4G" are mentioned in the same sentence is to try it out on a supported device yourself. Than you will see that CM6 is established. They have long been around. They don't just modify ROM's, they create. They make the product that I would love to see come stock from Google. CM6 = One of the best experiences you will ever have running android on your phone. Period.
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I had CM6 on MTS3g for about 2 months and loved it,CM6 is pure android and is probably the best rom I used but what im sayin is tha Syndicate is pretty damn close to CM6 in terms of responsiveness and speed,but CM6 got extra settings.So if its compiled from scratch what benefits it has over say Syndicate rom besides having more samsung and sprint sht removed?
Gene_Bailey said:
well I guess the main differences between the ACS and the CM Team are that the CyanogenMod team is just better!
I jest I jest. I have used both CM6 on other phones and Syndicate on my Epic and I appreciate the work any dev does. Especially considering how barebones the Epic forums will soon be if things keep going the way they have.
However, the main differences with CM6 and Syndicate have less to do with tweaks and more to do with source. CM is built from the ground up off of pure old android. Off of the original sdk from Google. Syndicate is more or less based off of the latest and greatest Samsung firmware. CM6 isn't just customized to be light (although its always been a huge plus) it also comes with things that just aren't possible through any other ROMs. Touch to focus inside the camcorder for one, or swiping away notifications ala webOS style. Also building in a modified version of the way Sammy did the power widgets in the notification shade from SCRATCH. The menus are much more functional in CM than anywhere else.
The only way to really see why people get so excited here whenever the words "CM6" and "Epic4G" are mentioned in the same sentence is to try it out on a supported device yourself. Than you will see that CM6 is established. They have long been around. They don't just modify ROM's, they create. They make the product that I would love to see come stock from Google. CM6 = One of the best experiences you will ever have running android on your phone. Period.
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Thanks for that info.
This Epic is my first Android phone, however coming from WebOS and palm for many years, the mention of swiping and true mods to behavior is exciting!
So, count me in as looking forward to trying out CM6 with DK17. And thanks to noobnl for finishing up whatever he was working on with it.
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Thanks for that info.
This Epic is my first Android phone, however coming from WebOS and palm for many years, the mention of swiping and true mods to behavior is exciting!
So, count me in as looking forward to trying out CM6 with DK17. And thanks to noobnl for finishing up whatever he was working on with it.
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This is exactly what I'm talking about. I've had about 12 different phones in the last three years or so including the epic. And I have to say one of the most exciting in terms of modding core behaviors was the palm pre. webOS was an OS that almost anyone could gain dev access to and tinker with. Android is (in my opinion) more powerful, and because of that it takes more know-how to mod it, which is why devs like BTThomas22x and all of the ACS and Noobnl and many many others on here deserve a lot more respect than they are given.
But, again, personally, I have yet to really see anyone take android and mold it the way the CyanogenMod Team has. I bought the epic on day one, mainly for the screen and the hummingbird.. but I almost chose the EVO at the last minute because it already had Cyanogen on it. The wait is long.. but the results will be worth it!
I wish those dumb mf's that make webos would just make large screen phone,webos is really atractive but small screen keeps people from buying it,how those corporate people keep their jobs is beyond me.
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I wish those dumb mf's that make webos would just make large screen phone,webos is really atractive but small screen keeps people from buying it,how those corporate people keep their jobs is beyond me.
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LMAOOO I totally agree! Then again, thats part of why palm sunk and was bought up by HP. The hardware didn't attract enough customers, so dev's didn't really support it, so app's not enough apps got made, so even more people stayed away from it. pretty soon a lot of devs left it too. Its a sad thing when an OS launches with only 14 apps. and its even sadder when 3 months later nothing has changed.
And all of this is totally skipping over the fact that Palm chose to launch on a carrier that didn't have the service it needed and didnt get the advertising to survive.
Ah, well. We're getting off topic tho lol Android for the win!
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I wish those dumb mf's that make webos would just make large screen phone,webos is really atractive but small screen keeps people from buying it,how those corporate people keep their jobs is beyond me.
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Lol. I agree. People always laugh when I tell them the Pre was on of my favorite phones. All it needs is better hardware, then more people would buy then the developers would develop.
Noobnl.... U still aiming for a release tonite?
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Guys what are the odds of stock android rom hacked on to the Sammy Charge???
Wondering what others are thinking?
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The odds are better than the odds that you took time to read the Development board where there are 2 ROMs available
and most likely a 3rd one soon by the dev that did the Liberty ROM the Tesla ROM.....
But if all you care about is this CM ROM; go get something else.
I'm sure there will be one eventually, but if you want it within the next month, I'd look elsewhere, as there are no guarantees as to when it will come or how functional it will be.
Lol @ Shotgunsams great response.
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@shotgunsam...... Ummmm roms available. There all spruced up TouchWiz tweaks.
I am meaning a true Rom not built ontop of touchwiz.
Either i was looking for hope of one. Since the fascinate never got one.
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Uh, did you read the descriptions of the ROMs? DroidXCon gives you LauncherPro, other launchers soon to come, and imnuts has a streamlined ROM with the default AOSP launcher. Both completely remove TW launcher, according to the descriptions.
I too would love to see CM7 for this device. But the fact is, there are a few great ROM's available already, which is incredible considering the phone has only been out for two weeks! I really appreciate the hard work of the devs, and can't wait to see what's available in the coming weeks.
I got the DI when it first came out. First it was when will it get root. Root was a ***** becasue it was so random it worked with some sd cards and some it did not. There were methods of clicking your sd card in and out which actually worked for me. Not a day latter everyone was *****ing about roms. When will we get this or that rom. Look at almost 1 year later and there are crazy amount of roms. It takes time be patient and look forward to what is coming. Crap I am typing this and I don't even get my charge till tuesday. I hate touchwiz I will root,rom,replace launcher with one of my choosing. If I hate something will just get another phone 6 8 months down the road but really not concerned about it at this point. I think in time it will be like every other phone tons of awesome roms from great developers. Liberty was one of if not the best roms for the droidx which I own. Just knowing they same people that worked on that rom is doing stuff for charge has me stoked.
Guys im not knockin the devs. But everything is built off TOUCHWIZ just cause you get rid of the launcher its still touchwiz under the hood.
The fascinate never had a locked bootloader either and noone ever got a stock android rom working. So i was just asking if it would be possible here. Anyways no biggie....
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Guys im not knockin the devs. But everything is built off TOUCHWIZ just cause you get rid of the launcher its still touchwiz under the hood.
The fascinate never had a locked bootloader either and noone ever got a stock android rom working. So i was just asking if it would be possible here. Anyways no biggie....
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No way of saying will it get cwm7 or not. I will say the Droid x has a locked boot loader but Liberty rom was amazing. They put a ton of details and tweeks so that you could change things they way you want. As much as you could anyways with a locked boot loader. The developers of that rom did a great job with what they had to work with. Now if they are dev for this phone and it is fully unlocked. Wow no dobut will they put out a awesome rom for it. Now I have every intention to installing the best roms out for this phone when I get it tuesday. Developers deserve not only our thanks but donations as well. Thank you guys that put in all the hard work making our phones run crazy cool.
Unlike other skins tw is small and really is easy to remove. I've deleted alot and it still is functioning. Sense roms=200MB touchwiz=100MB and idk about blur
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Guys im not knockin the devs. But everything is built off TOUCHWIZ just cause you get rid of the launcher its still touchwiz under the hood.
The fascinate never had a locked bootloader either and noone ever got a stock android rom working. So i was just asking if it would be possible here. Anyways no biggie....
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Do you know why the fascinate still doesn't have a fully functional cm7? Samsung code. And lack of true full source... This too is a samsung device...
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Do you know why the fascinate still doesn't have a fully functional cm7? Samsung code. And lack of true full source... This too is a samsung device...
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Well Samsung released the kernel source pretty much immediately didn't they? Also didn't Samsung say they were going to be better about releasing that kind of stuff, and also keeping bootloaders more open? So this could be a real possibility. Although if you know what your removing, I would assume like HTC Sense, you can pretty much take a TW based rom and completely remove TW and have it work fine.
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Do you know why the fascinate still doesn't have a fully functional cm7? Samsung code. And lack of true full source... This too is a samsung device...
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587MB of source code goodness for the Charge can be found here:
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587MB of source code goodness for the Charge can be found here:
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We need ril source, the old cdma ril is bad, and now with lte thrown in...
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Well Samsung released the kernel source pretty much immediately didn't they? Also didn't Samsung say they were going to be better about releasing that kind of stuff, and also keeping bootloaders more open? So this could be a real possibility. Although if you know what your removing, I would assume like HTC Sense, you can pretty much take a TW based rom and completely remove TW and have it work fine.
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Kernel source isn't full source. Im not saying we won't get cm6/7, it's just going to take time.
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Guys im not knockin the devs. But everything is built off TOUCHWIZ just cause you get rid of the launcher its still touchwiz under the hood.
The fascinate never had a locked bootloader either and noone ever got a stock android rom working. So i was just asking if it would be possible here. Anyways no biggie....
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You do know that the Fascinate is knocking on the door to get full CM7 support don't you? Honestly, if you didn't like the Fascinate, you won't like the Charge, and based on your posts here, I don't think you ever like any android phone as they all seem to have one problem or another.
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587MB of source code goodness for the Charge can be found here:
https://opensource.samsung.com/
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The reason the download is so big is that Samsung didn't clean out the kernel source tree after building, and tar'd up the source files as well as the built binaries (and all the other generated files). After you download, do "make distclean" and you'll save yourself some space and get rid of the useless files.
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Guys what are the odds of stock android rom hacked on to the Sammy Charge???
Wondering what others are thinking?
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Apparently a lot of people are having trouble understanding the question. lol
I been wondering the same thing though. I have a good feeling about CM getting on bored eventually, it's what I'm looking foreward to the most with this phone. I miss having my notification bar on the bottom of my phone like I did with my D'Inc... lol
The only reason I say I "think" that it has a good chance getting CM support is because it seems, besides the Fascinate, they have been doing a great job cracking down on Samsung phones lately in the past few months. Besides the more phone supported by them, the better and the more recongnition they get. Until then ADW Ex is working fine for me.
Shout out to CM for all the awesome hard work.
@mozes316 cool. Nice of you to give a thought without going haywire on me like some others. Lol
Im a big android purest fan.
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Apparently a lot of people are having trouble understanding the question. lol
I been wondering the same thing though. I have a good feeling about CM getting on bored eventually, it's what I'm looking foreward to the most with this phone. I miss having my notification bar on the bottom of my phone like I did with my D'Inc... lol
The only reason I say I "think" that it has a good chance getting CM support is because it seems, besides the Fascinate, they have been doing a great job cracking down on Samsung phones lately in the past few months. Besides the more phone supported by them, the better and the more recongnition they get. Until then ADW Ex is working fine for me.
Shout out to CM for all the awesome hard work.
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You looked into the epic cm7 builds? Lots of issues.
Any cdma phone is having serious issues with the porting.
Not trying to flame anyone by any means. Just informing people of what I feel is overlooked...
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You looked into the epic cm7 builds? Lots of issues.
Any cdma phone is having serious issues with the porting.
Not trying to flame anyone by any means. Just informing people of what I feel is overlooked...
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Coming from the original Incredible (CDMA) Rooting and ROMing was a breeze and also received CM support pretty quickly. If anything, I would think that the 4G radio would be the hardest work around. You never know though.
now that development seems to be moving along lets use this thread to discuss our GB development even though its in the general section
First off can anyone begin with telling us what is needed to get GB started on this phone?
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now that development seems to be moving along lets use this thread to discuss our GB development even though its in the general section
First off can anyone begin with telling us what is needed to get GB started on this phone?
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I thought we had to wait for Samsung on GB? Dont get me wrong I would love to see it and if anyone can get it done that would be great. I also see where your coming from, with all these minds we can maybe get a port from another source.
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I thought we had to wait for Samsung on GB? Dont get me wrong I would love to see it and if anyone can get it done that would be great. I also see where your coming from, with all these minds we can maybe get a port from another source.
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well according to some foreigners GB was released for the galaxy family about 2 to 3 weeks ago
but that was a foreign release not an american release, im not sure if that matters
your rite dX but i think the issue is with drivers... like i'm sure u could get gb running... but would be like having an ipad1 lol... if that makes sense....
Yeah I think only the S2 has gingerbread and that's the only one we can port it from. The issues are usually drivers and most of the time we'll lose battery life.
Nah the original galaxy S has gingerbread. We have a kernel and an ext4 fs now so it shouldnt be as bad as trying to port it over like before.
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Nah the original galaxy S has gingerbread. We have a kernel and an ext4 fs now so it shouldnt be as bad as trying to port it over like before.
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If it would be possible that would be great cause I think it could really be done with the right minds in on it.
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I'm getting my linux set back up in the next couple of days. I plan on attacking this as soon as I can. I have successfully compiled GB for a device that shouldn't have seen anything past eclair, so I will do all I can for this one. I have a sh*t ton of homework to do though. This is my first ever Samsung, so there is a BIG learning curve for me.
I came from an Evo 4g so this is DEFINITELY a learning curve for me too! Everything on my evo was easier but this gives me more of a sense of pride. My phone is a beast thanks to the developers!
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I'm getting my linux set back up in the next couple of days. I plan on attacking this as soon as I can. I have successfully compiled GB for a device that shouldn't have seen anything past eclair, so I will do all I can for this one. I have a sh*t ton of homework to do though. This is my first ever Samsung, so there is a BIG learning curve for me.
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You know were here to test when when you get something going.(as long as its not past odining if we screw up.lol ). But seriously I'm sure the whole community here would support you, I know I do.
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You know were here to test when when you get something going.(as long as its not past odining if we screw up.lol ). But seriously I'm sure the whole community here would support you, I know I do.
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Well, here is where I'm coming from:
While up to this point everything we have, as far as roms, are ports (we don't really have a choice because samsung is stingy with their source codes). While this is great for most of what we use, some parts that are really deep in the code (java, framework, device specific hardware, etc....) will HAVE to be compiled in one way or another. You cant just grab the GB file system and try to slam it into our device...never happen. Far too many parts and pieces rely on each other. So once I can get my stuff straight, I will start a clean repo of the GB source (I already have the samsung kd1 source stuff) and try to merge them the best I can. Then the sh*t hits the fan. Will it compile? Probably not.......Now we have to resort to past experience, help from others that have compiled, and google your ass off!
As an example: Shared libs are a freakin nightmare!! Did you know that things like camera, video, and even some audio stuff use the same exact libs? I didn't either until I started compiling. So if one of these is broken....none of it will work. Probably won't even compile, let alone boot.
I'll support anyone who wants to do something productive with our phone.
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Well, here is where I'm coming from:
While up to this point everything we have, as far as roms, are ports (we don't really have a choice because samsung is stingy with their source codes). While this is great for most of what we use, some parts that are really deep in the code (java, framework, device specific hardware, etc....) will HAVE to be compiled in one way or another. You cant just grab the GB file system and try to slam it into our device...never happen. Far too many parts and pieces rely on each other. So once I can get my stuff straight, I will start a clean repo of the GB source (I already have the samsung kd1 source stuff) and try to merge them the best I can. Then the sh*t hits the fan. Will it compile? Probably not.......Now we have to resort to past experience, help from others that have compiled, and google your ass off!
As an example: Shared libs are a freakin nightmare!! Did you know that things like camera, video, and even some audio stuff use the same exact libs? I didn't either until I started compiling. So if one of these is broken....none of it will work. Probably won't even compile, let alone boot.
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Damn bro that sounds like a super challenge. I'm sure the people in this forum could help. Lets just hope others want this like we do. That's wild about those lib files. So if 1 is broke you have to find it and fix it to compile? That's rough.
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Damn bro that sounds like a super challenge. I'm sure the people in this forum could help. Lets just hope others want this like we do. That's wild about those lib files. So if 1 is broke you have to find it and fix it to compile? That's rough.
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Sh*t dude.....I had some lib issues that have snagged me up for days. It's tough, but it is possible. The reason I want GB so bad is I have seen what it does for other devices. The main advantage....SPEED!!!! Lots of new badass options too
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Sh*t dude.....I had some lib issues that have snagged me up for days. It's tough, but it is possible. The reason I want GB so bad is I have seen what it does for other devices. The main advantage....SPEED!!!! Lots of new badass options too
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I heard it does wonders for the battery also. Do you know this to be true? This is my first android device and I'm all about learning new things. Ever since I got this phone I've been wanting a laptop so I can learn to dev more.
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I heard it does wonders for the battery also. Do you know this to be true? This is my first android device and I'm all about learning new things. Ever since I got this phone I've been wanting a laptop so I can learn to dev more.
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Oh absolutely. The key is how the file system reads itself in GB. The cpu just plain 'ol doesn't have to work as hard. Better battery life, faster and smoother overall performance, graphics, etc...... Plus like I said, it has features that froyo just doesn't have. Absolutely no need for task killers anymore. It's all integrated into the system.
And to answer your question, yes. If one part of that lib doesn't jive......compiling just stops, end of story. Now you have to search through all of your source files and TRY to find out what's wrong. Then google google google for any sign of a solution. This is virgin ground when compiling aosp from source. Not easy at all.
That doesn't touch the tip of the iceberg either. Try modifying code (which has to be done sometimes). C, C++, Java, etc.....sh*t can get hairy.
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Oh absolutely. The key is how the file system reads itself in GB. The cpu just plain 'ol doesn't have to work as hard. Better battery life, faster and smoother overall performance, graphics, etc...... Plus like I said, it has features that froyo just doesn't have. Absolutely no need for task killers anymore. It's all integrated into the system.
And to answer your question, yes. If one part of that lib doesn't jive......compiling just stops, end of story. Now you have to search through all of your source files and TRY to find out what's wrong. Then google google google for any sign of a solution. This is virgin ground when compiling aosp from source. Not easy at all.
That doesn't touch the tip of the iceberg either. Try modifying code (which has to be done sometimes). C, C++, Java, etc.....sh*t can get hairy.
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im hopping on the UBUNTU bandwagon today,
its time to start learning some code so we can get GB on this damn thing
and yes i saw that the galaxy s has gb as well not just the gs2
looks like we got hell to go through mad_fitter and anyone else who will join our suicidal mission
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im hopping on the UBUNTU bandwagon today,
its time to start learning some code so we can get GB on this damn thing
and yes i saw that the galaxy s has gb as well not just the gs2
looks like we got hell to go through mad_fitter and anyone else who will join our suicidal mission
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Installing ubuntu 9.10 on a throwaround laptop. I'm down to go at this with u guys!
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Installing ubuntu 9.10 on a throwaround laptop. I'm down to go at this with u guys!
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yayyyyy!! i was waiting for that reply robbbbit hahaha!!
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Oh absolutely. The key is how the file system reads itself in GB. The cpu just plain 'ol doesn't have to work as hard. Better battery life, faster and smoother overall performance, graphics, etc...... Plus like I said, it has features that froyo just doesn't have. Absolutely no need for task killers anymore. It's all integrated into the system.
And to answer your question, yes. If one part of that lib doesn't jive......compiling just stops, end of story. Now you have to search through all of your source files and TRY to find out what's wrong. Then google google google for any sign of a solution. This is virgin ground when compiling aosp from source. Not easy at all.
That doesn't touch the tip of the iceberg either. Try modifying code (which has to be done sometimes). C, C++, Java, etc.....sh*t can get hairy.
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I tried my hand at c++ when I used to have a PSP and I messed around and wrote a few starter programs(hello world, a counter,mp3 player)to get me familiar with code. Yea that stuff makes my brain hurt when trying to fix an error, compiling the mp3 player was hard cause I kept getting errors, took me 2 Days to get it to compile into eboot.pbp for psp and it would still freeze when trying to exit so I never got to finish it.
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new forum scent is still here
Finally
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Glad to see a forum, I bought this device for my mom and hope to see devs get behind it. With an unlockable bootloader, anything can be done with the device
Since there are no mods here yet, can I be the first troll? *starts grafting the walls*
lol jk
why is it taking soooo long to restore 8600 text messages??? Actually, why does it not limit people to 300 like I checked. Would knock off a couple thousand easy. i have limits set in gosms and stock to no avail.
And it feels weird having a phone that doesn't say Samsung on it. It's been about four years. Would've been longer if Sammy would've made the i550.
Will say, the Q charges a lot quicker than the Epic ever did with or without a charge only cable. Keys have a bit more travel than the Epic's. Doesn't feel like a good thing at the moment, but I'm sure it's more of just what I'm used to. Same goes for the tab key, weird punctuation placement and the annoying on screen keys. What's the point of having onscreen buttons if there is so much bezel space at the bottom. Phone feels light and plasticy, but not in a bad way. At least there's no chromed plastic. Slider seems solid. Screen is definitely bright. Colors aren't oversaturated, and I still see a touch of pixelization that probably would be non existent if it were HD and not qHD.
Hopefully there will be some worthwhile development for this thing. Cheers all.
Damn!!!! hurry Advocate phone I am rocking an S2 and S3 right now so dont know how this is gonna top them but eh they are giving me one so I am going to learn it and use it to the best of my abilitys! had good experience on the original mopho expect them same here.
Shabby you in on this device ....... then all is well
wheres the love guys? there was more forum activity before you guys got rooted.
Hectic weekend, and my slider is loose. Going to call and get it switched out. Will root and nandroid once I know I can get a new phone so I can do an easy restore.
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wheres the love guys? there was more forum activity before you guys got rooted.
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Bought this device for my mom, will be rooting it this weekend and starting the debloat. Hope to see the community around this grow, maybe even get a CM maintainer. This has the specs to make it through a few Android OS releases
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Bought this device for my mom, will be rooting it this weekend and starting the debloat. Hope to see the community around this grow, maybe even get a CM maintainer. This has the specs to make it through a few Android OS releases
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as it stands the cm i keep trying to compile is failing in webcore granted that is just purly grabbing cm and adding in my device tree. havent applied any of the moto stuff yet
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as it stands the cm i keep trying to compile is failing in webcore granted that is just purly grabbing cm and adding in my device tree. havent applied any of the moto stuff yet
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you are awesome
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as it stands the cm i keep trying to compile is failing in webcore granted that is just purly grabbing cm and adding in my device tree. havent applied any of the moto stuff yet
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Do you have a tree up? I saw there's kernel source from Moto...
I was looking at buying this device, and I want to put TWRP 2.0 and AOKP on it. I'd love to help ya .
i handed the device tree off to dees_troy since he did the photon twrp himself before i imagine he will prolly do this one as well twrp currently doesnt boot
as for device trees i got sick of so many cwm ports back in teh froyo days not having source up so i do everything in my power to ensure people can get it https://github.com/Shabbypenguin/android_device_moto_asanti
as for aokp/cm and the like i tried to compile CM9 and it threw a bit fit. thats about where im gunna stop
You've been thanked, this should at least get me somewheres. Would like to see some good ROM's for this beast
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You've been thanked, this should at least get me somewheres. Would like to see some good ROM's for this beast
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give me some time and ill have us some goodies, buying this phone real soon, and will port over what I've done for the photon to the q (not saying I'm going to port from photon)... in case you don't know of me....I've taken on miui, aokp, aokpcb, cm9, cna,.paranoid android, and themed/tweaked stock ....I've had alot of great friends helping me through them, so in no way can I take full credit for them but I'm certain I should be able to do the same for the q.....
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Hell yeah I've heard of you and enjoyed your work. I can't wait to see what you put together for the Q.
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Alright! I am getting CM9 and will work with some other peoples to get Shabby's device tree fleshed out. Hopefully we can get that up and running pretty quickly so we can move onto CM10/AOKP
Also, I ordered the phone today - hope to have it here soon!
My wifey wants this phone but she said she wants to wait till ROMs come out for it. Was shocked when she said that I think I got her spoiled on ROMs from her epic 4g lol.
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dbpaddler said:
why is it taking soooo long to restore 8600 text messages??? Actually, why does it not limit people to 300 like I checked. Would knock off a couple thousand easy. i have limits set in gosms and stock to no avail.
And it feels weird having a phone that doesn't say Samsung on it. It's been about four years. Would've been longer if Sammy would've made the i550.
Will say, the Q charges a lot quicker than the Epic ever did with or without a charge only cable. Keys have a bit more travel than the Epic's. Doesn't feel like a good thing at the moment, but I'm sure it's more of just what I'm used to. Same goes for the tab key, weird punctuation placement and the annoying on screen keys. What's the point of having onscreen buttons if there is so much bezel space at the bottom. Phone feels light and plasticy, but not in a bad way. At least there's no chromed plastic. Slider seems solid. Screen is definitely bright. Colors aren't oversaturated, and I still see a touch of pixelization that probably would be non existent if it were HD and not qHD.
Hopefully there will be some worthwhile development for this thing. Cheers all.
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AGREE was so upset there was no hd screen,jokersax,shabby,spleef,th3bill made my MoPho (og photon) so awesome.tegra rox!! now new photon ,no hd, yucky keyboard,and no quad tegra. LEFT and went to gnex!!!! done with MOTO.soooooo loved and still love og photon
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give me some time and ill have us some goodies, buying this phone real soon, and will port over what I've done for the photon to the q (not saying I'm going to port from photon)... in case you don't know of me....I've taken on miui, aokp, aokpcb, cm9, cna,.paranoid android, and themed/tweaked stock ....I've had alot of great friends helping me through them, so in no way can I take full credit for them but I'm certain I should be able to do the same for the q.....
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I second this comment,ya all made my photon fun bro. your top notch spleef. too bad moto went backwords with q,accept 1.5 gig but no tegra and tegra rox.memories of shadowrom
Wow
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