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[Q] Sense 3.0 on Infuse?

This is probably a noob question, but I guess i'm just not sure how these things work. Why isn't it possible to fully extract HTC sense 3.0 from an HTC phone, and replace whatever is on a Samsung. I'm assuming that hardware and software are somewhat linked so that maybe one of the answers. But it would be nice to see HTC sense on the beautiful SuperAmoled Plus 4.5" Sammy Screen. I guess my question is why do I have to resort to a theme to make my Infuse look like sense instead actually having it.
ps. I know some of you will tell me to just get an HTC, but I prefer Samsung for many reasons, and i just like a few of the 3D Animations that Sense offers, including the weather.
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sshukrun said:
This is probably a noob question, but I guess i'm just not sure how these things work. Why isn't it possible to fully extract HTC sense 3.0 from an HTC phone, and replace whatever is on a Samsung. I'm assuming that hardware and software are somewhat linked so that maybe one of the answers. But it would be nice to see HTC sense on the beautiful SuperAmoled Plus 4.5" Sammy Screen. I guess my question is why do I have to resort to a theme to make my Infuse look like sense instead actually having it.
ps. I know some of you will tell me to just get an HTC, but I prefer Samsung for many reasons, and i just like a few of the 3D Animations that Sense offers, including the weather.
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HTC hacked up too much stuff in the low-level frameworks to make this even remotely easy. Even if it were possible it would be buggy as hell.

Entropy512 said:
HTC hacked up too much stuff in the low-level frameworks to make this even remotely easy. Even if it were possible it would be buggy as hell.
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So what would happen if I tried to flash a Rom made for an HTC, or try to flash an HTC Kernel. Would it just not work, or would it brick my Infuse?

sshukrun said:
So what would happen if I tried to flash a Rom made for an HTC, or try to flash an HTC Kernel. Would it just not work, or would it brick my Infuse?
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You wouldn't exactly brick it since you can use the Ultimate Unbrick to restore it to stock but the ROMs wouldn't work and most likely the kernels prolly wouldn't either

it just wouldnt boot up at all. lol.
heres what you CAN do if you want some of that HTC Sense. FAKE the whole thing.
get a launcher that allows you to chnage the dock bar. i believe that "he launcher" has several options to choose from.
then you can go over to the UOT kitchen and load up your framework-res.apks and choose the HTC Sense icons they have there. they look pretty legit. then just flash the, to your phone. then for the widgets, just download some from the market.
the you go. your Faux-Sense is made.
thank you. im rolling out. peace.

Lp sense actually works really nicely and theres agile lock, for the sense 3.0 lock screen but its a bit inconsistent.
any who thanks for answering my questions!
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sshukrun said:
So what would happen if I tried to flash a Rom made for an HTC, or try to flash an HTC Kernel. Would it just not work, or would it brick my Infuse?
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It would "softbrick" - hardbricking is nearly impossible on our phones.

Hard Bricking is impossible with the unbrickable Mod

GoSooners345 said:
Hard Bricking is impossible with the unbrickable Mod
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Why! This is so old..
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Custom looks of the phones?

I'm very curious on how to make my phone look completely like its not an android phone. I see all these screen shots and they look nothing like the roms I see.
I think most of them say it miui bit there lock screen are all so crazy looking and just overall the way they setup the phone looks awsome.
Can anyone give me tips or point me In a direction where I can read more about it thanks.
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codyperez86 said:
I'm very curious on how to make my phone look completely like its not an android phone. I see all these screen shots and they look nothing like the roms I see.
I think most of them say it miui bit there lock screen are all so crazy looking and just overall the way they setup the phone looks awsome.
Can anyone give me tips or point me In a direction where I can read more about it thanks.
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when i am not working on my personal builds i run the following setup:
(i am so going to get some major flack for this, but i dont care, its functional and i like it. )
MIUI + Launcher7 + MIUI WP7 Lockscreen
i like the simplicity of WP7, ease of use, but i heart android in every other way.....

My favorite lockscreen is the CM7 Lockscreen Gestures with "Disable unlock slider" selected. All it displays is the simple time and battery stats, the rest of the space is blank for gestures, I have one that mutes the phone, one that turns on the flashlight, and on that unlocks it. It's fast and easy to unlock and no one could ever figure out how to do it.

Yeah android is the way to go all the way. Preferably HTC. Thanks ya.
IPhone to the inspire. Rock solid.
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Just bought a Sensation

So here's the deal. I just bought one, and I'm looking forward to developing for it.
A few questions first:
1. What kinds of roms do you like? and Why. I want to please my user base, as well as pick it.
2. What features are you missing from Sense, MIUI, AOSP, or whatever else the kids are using these days? (this includes things you see on other devices and wish you had on sensation, or things you think of yourselves)
3. What kinds of roms do you think have ABSOLUTELY no point; For example, I think a re-post of CM with a new kernel and a theme built-in is ridiculous... What do you think?
4. What do you prefer about a rom you flash on sensation? if you had to choose between battery and performance, which? if you had to choose between pretty theme/heavy apps or bare-bones cleanliness, which? This kind of relates to q1...
Before I start repeating myself, I'd just like to say that sensation has a bunch of amazing devs going for it, and has a unique look and a terrific user base, and I'm thrilled to be a part of it.
Please leave intelligent responses, to help make your device better!
Jcarrz1

Ok I will be the first hear. I have only had my Sensation since September 1st so I have not yet flashed a custom ROM to it. I am kind of giving the stock ROM a good trial run first.
I think since so many people, including me, are reporting touch screen issues, especially with pulling the ring up to unlock the device. You should really consider implumenting something that gives you a choice if you want to use the lock screen or not. Maybe a widget or a added choice in the settings to disable the lock screen. Or maybe even a G-Sensor operated lock screen, you know shake the device to unlock it.
I personally like the dialer UI of HTC Sense 3.0 and the text messaging in sense. I do not like the fact that you can not do what I call free scroll through your apps in the app tray. You have to scroll inn predefined blocks of 20 apps at a time. I personally like a bear bones ROM with a lot of downloadable add ons that you can install if you want. That way you can truly customize your device to suit you and you needs and likes.
I also think you should add a percentage meter that can be put in the status bar at the top cause the stock ROM does not have that option. I really like being able to see my battery percentage not just a battery with a green bar.
Also I miss the CyanogenMod settings in settings that I used in the Hyperdroid-CM7-v2.1.0 -HeadyHoneybadger ROM on my HD2.
I really am not to fond of the bottom launcher bar in the stock ROM either. I like the small launcher like the one in the above mentioned ROM so anything like that would be great.
A better music player than the default Android music player would be a plus also.
Last thing I can think of is something that will turn your WiFi off when you leave the WiFi area, say your home WiFi. And maybe even turns it on when you get back in range of your home WiFi network.
If I think of anything else I will post it here in this thread. Hope you get some more responses.
Edit: I forgot to mention, I prefer performance over battery. But not to the point that the battery will not last at least 8 hours

I'd choose a ROM that keeps Sense 3.0, intelligently overclocks the CPU to maximise performance when the phone is awake and being used, and underclocks it when the phone is asleep to maximise battery life. Another biggie for me would be a camera apk that reduces the compression and noise reduction that the stock Sense camera apk uses which cause Sensation photos and videos to lose sharpness. And I'd like Beats from the Sensation SE included too.
Over to you...
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Jedi2011 said:
I'd choose a ROM that keeps Sense 3.0, intelligently overclocks the CPU to maximise performance when the phone is awake and being used, and underclocks it when the phone is asleep to maximise battery life. Another biggie for me would be a camera apk that reduces the compression and noise reduction that the stock Sense camera apk uses which cause Sensation photos and videos to lose sharpness. And I'd like Beats from the Sensation SE included too.
Over to you...
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All of the above is already available.
To OP. Welcome to Pyramid forums.
It's very tough competition here mate, so good luck to you (no sarcasm).
To make ROM successful you'd have to make it unique or a lot better than others ( very, very hard to achieve) or both together.

Coming from the Mytouch 4g my favorite Roms were the Aosp Roms they are so light and quick with amazing battery. I would love one similar to fuax's aosp rom from the mytouch 4g. Also I'm a fan of better battery since I use my phone for music and internet all day!
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Oh - and...
1080p YouTube playback
MKV file playing
Visualiser for media player
If I think of more I'll be back, but you should have enough to keep you coding for a while
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ive had my phone for 3wks and just flashed HD Revolution but stripped it with a viperMod [hated the TMobile and HTC widgets] and loving it so far
the only problem for me is the yukky battery life but its far superior to my HD2, can do so much more with it
my advice is to flash Recovery and jump right in

Miui.
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tinky1 said:
All of the above is already available.
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Really? Awesome news! Which ROM has them all?
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Any ROM really, with add ons available. I.personally recommend InsertCoin 2.2.5 SSE
Jedi2011 said:
Really? Awesome news! Which ROM has them all?
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I would like to see a Sense 3.0 ROM, but super fast (if that's possible) by removing useless junk and optimizations and **** (I'm currently using InsertCoin and it is fast, but it would be awesome to see iOS or WP7 responsiveness)
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[Q] anyone know if there is a way to put sense 3 or 3.5 on the samsung roms?

i like everything about this phone but the ui

then you shouldn't have gotten the phone .. and this is a Q and should not be in the dev section

cjindustry said:
i like everything about this phone but the ui
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seeing as u have 98 posts u should know by know where to post... smh

cjindustry said:
i like everything about this phone but the ui
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Then you should've gone HTC... Normally we're not like this. Post things in the right section and we're much nicer.

You did try the phone before you bought it, right?

1. Print this out.
2. Acquire scotch tape
3. Tape to phone
4. ?????
5. Profit!

cjindustry said:
i like everything about this phone but the ui
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well do you just want the launcher and widgets or the whole set of menus dialer and more?
you can use 3rd party apps like go contacts and launcher pro and go weather or beautiful widgets or fancy widget and replace the lock screen with a market ap but to port the ui takes work both ui's have some kernel integration and the phones use completely different hardware so it takes a lot of work from experienced developers and none here have any interest in that. best i can tell you is to buy a sensation or it's canadia equivelant if you are not satisfied with market app.
though i do like mikeys suggestion.

I prefer Mikey's suggestion, agree with Dani's and suggest you look at how the proposed Sense port went for the original sgs and then come back......

I used Sense with Cookie's improvments. The GO Launcher and ALL of its addons are actually far superior - then add 2 quicklauncher - and this phone DESTROYS sense. Just a bit more work to get all assembled - but its all there and WAY MORE.

bsw11 said:
I used Sense with Cookie's improvments. The GO Launcher and ALL of its addons are actually far superior - then add 2 quicklauncher - and this phone DESTROYS sense. Just a bit more work to get all assembled - but its all there and WAY MORE.
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Thanks BSW11 for your feedback I'll try that

MikeyMike01 said:
1. Print this out.
2. Acquire scotch tape
3. Tape to phone
4. ?????
5. Profit!
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I LOL'D! HAHA
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Getting TRUE sense UI on samsung based rom is (impossible??). Porting them is a lot harder then anyone might think.

sense is very heavy. i remember even 2 years ago on windows mobile phones it consisted of thousands of files. and it seems to only have gotten more bloated. its definitely not impossible, but its so intertwined with the framework, it would take alot of work. htc is not going to make it easy.

Bandit_Kaine said:
Getting TRUE sense UI on samsung based rom is (impossible??). Porting them is a lot harder then anyone might think.
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yeah I didn't know.. I know they port all the time from htc to htc so didnt know how it was from htc to another model or another model to htc.. the sense 3.5 for my inspire was great but the phone button broke, so i got the samsung infuse until the next htc came out.. I do however like some of the feedback i got and with a few free apps from the market ive got it dialed in with the htc looks without the battery cpu and mem hog.. may just get the galaxy 2 and mod it the same way and see if i can hold off on the htc.. but i hear the htc holiday aka raider is going to be amazing

What is the best/lightest rom for the HOX

What is the best vanilla rom and what is the best modified sense rom?
I want it to be light (uses a low amount of ram) and more stable/fast than the stock rom that gets shipped with your AT&T HTC One X... with better battery life.
Thanks,
Wir3d

This post is not going to be received well, FYI, but before they lock you down : I'm really enjoying CleanRom Lite. It's definitely more responsive than stock. It's Sense-based. Very stable (based on my experience, more stable than stock even).
I don't think any of them right now are going to affect battery life in any appreciable way.

There is no "best" ROM. The best one, is the one that fit your wants and needs, and those are not the same from person to person.
Also, just browse the forum or do a search. There are already lots of other threads like this.

Wir3d said:
What is the best vanilla rom and what is the best modified sense rom?
I want it to be light (uses a low amount of ram) and more stable/fast than the stock rom that gets shipped with your AT&T HTC One X... with better battery life.
Thanks,
Wir3d
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Im not trying to sound like an ass or anything but cmon, the development thread is literally two clicks away...take a look for yourself man. Nandroid and flash all the ROMs you want so you can pick whats best for YOU

Wir3d said:
What is the best vanilla rom and what is the best modified sense rom?
I want it to be light (uses a low amount of ram) and more stable/fast than the stock rom that gets shipped with your AT&T HTC One X... with better battery life.
Thanks,
Wir3d
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There's no one answer because roms perform differently on different phones depending on usage and individual configurations. 500 people may love one rom to death, but you may find it doesn't work so hot on your phone. You have to test them out and see what's best for you.

Read the ROM threads, find one that you think looks good to you, flash it. Only way to find out.
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Wir3d said:
What is the best vanilla rom and what is the best modified sense rom?
I want it to be light (uses a low amount of ram) and more stable/fast than the stock rom that gets shipped with your AT&T HTC One X... with better battery life.
Thanks,
Wir3d
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This all comes down to personal preference so you'll have to go through and see what works for you, each ROM has pros/cons. I've tried 3 myself and I found that the Nocturnal SE 1.7 gives me a good speed boost and battery life, I'm getting about 22-28hrs total with ~3hrs screen time at 50% brightness.

Thanks guys, I know the rules of the forum very well.. the point of it was to see which one uses the least amount of ram and get some feedback at the same time. I was a HD2 owner for 2 years and was involved in the HD2 forums for as long as I have owned the phone.I just got the the HOX and wanted to get something on it quick..
I don't see a point of injecting every single rom into my phone just to find out which one uses the least amount of ram when I can start a thread and and find out that way and at the same time get some feedback..that is the whole point of a forum like this..to communicate with others that have similar devices and can help you out.. I've checked out the pages for almost every rom but I haven't seen one that clearly states how much ram it uses for example 341 MB/1000MB...

I use the Wcx illuminati series roms , they are screaming fast , stable , and they have a mod version and stock version .. and three kernels to choose from .
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robertmoore208 said:
I use the Wcx illuminati series roms , they are screaming fast , stable , and they have a mod version and stock version .. and three kernels to choose from .
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that's for the LTE version bro?
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InflatedTitan said:
that's for the LTE version bro?
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Yep, just won't find them on this forum. And he is right, they are very fast and very stable. Definitely my Sense ROM of choice.
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pside15 said:
Yep, just won't find them on this forum. And he is right, they are very fast and very stable. Definitely my Sense ROM of choice.
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Where can you find these Roms?

Lilshaun said:
Where can you find these Roms?
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Google Wcx roms... you won't be disappointed
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robertmoore208 said:
Google Wcx roms... you won't be disappointed
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I just registered over there to check it out... I don't know man... it doesn't seem like he really cares if anyone flashes his ROM or not. Gotta have 10 posts to even download it, there's no actual changelog, no list of mods, no screenies.... how am I supposed to know if I even want to flash it?

_MetalHead_ said:
I just registered over there to check it out... I don't know man... it doesn't seem like he really cares if anyone flashes his ROM or not. Gotta have 10 posts to even download it, there's no actual changelog, no list of mods, no screenies.... how am I supposed to know if I even want to flash it?
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First off... Howdy
Doesn't care? Lol, that's harsh ... I know wild child personally and he's the only guy I know that is awake all hours , every day of the week making updates, tweaks, and roms. And never puts a Rom out that doesn't impress, the 10 post rule was put into place to get rid of those who just didn't want to contribute , 10 posts is a very small price to pay for the time and effort put into the work. You can get 10 just hitting the different forums and helping out , and post #2 usually has the change log. They are there I just checked.
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robertmoore208 said:
First off... Howdy
Doesn't care? Lol, that's harsh ... I know wild child personally and he's the only guy I know that is awake all hours , every day of the week making updates, tweaks, and roms. And never puts a Rom out that doesn't impress, the 10 post rule was put into place to get rid of those who just didn't want to contribute , 10 posts is a very small price to pay for the time and effort put into the work. You can get 10 just hitting the different forums and helping out , and post #2 usually has the change log. They are there I just checked.
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Couldn't agree more.

robertmoore208 said:
First off... Howdy
Doesn't care? Lol, that's harsh ... I know wild child personally and he's the only guy I know that is awake all hours , every day of the week making updates, tweaks, and roms. And never puts a Rom out that doesn't impress, the 10 post rule was put into place to get rid of those who just didn't want to contribute , 10 posts is a very small price to pay for the time and effort put into the work. You can get 10 just hitting the different forums and helping out , and post #2 usually has the change log. They are there I just checked.
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I didn't really mean it like that, not trying to detract from the hard work that Wildchild puts in. I'm sure it's an awesome ROM and I'm sure he works very hard on it. I just can't find any information on it, even on his own site. After a fair amount of searching, I have no clue what features it has, what kind of tweaks have been made, if it's been themed at all, or just how it differs from the stock ROM. I have seen lots of people mention his ROMs and how awesome they are, so I'm quite curious and would love to check it out but no way am I flashing a ROM that I know quite literally nothing about.

Aokp by rohan32 is best vanilla rom out right now...not even close. That is if you don't mind having a non working video camera. It's extremely light (about 140 megs) and very fast when joined with nova launcher. It has mods out the ying Yang too.
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robertmoore208 said:
Google Wcx roms... you won't be disappointed
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Can you post a link to the forum. Can't seem to find the specific forum.

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I didn't really mean it like that, not trying to detract from the hard work that Wildchild puts in. I'm sure it's an awesome ROM and I'm sure he works very hard on it. I just can't find any information on it, even on his own site. After a fair amount of searching, I have no clue what features it has, what kind of tweaks have been made, if it's been themed at all, or just how it differs from the stock ROM. I have seen lots of people mention his ROMs and how awesome they are, so I'm quite curious and would love to check it out but no way am I flashing a ROM that I know quite literally nothing about.
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Basically his regular ROM is a tweaked stock ROM and retains all of the stock look with a nice increase in speed. The modded ROMs he releases are more themed and stuff. And it will have a tweaks app built for his ROM that will allow all kinds of customizations. Kind of similar to what's in the xi40 ROM. I used his modded ROM on my Vivid and it was rock solid. I would definitely give it a try, they are very solid ROMs. I saw you posting over there earlier.