Ive installed the manual ASUS update and this has now given me the MyCloud stuff.
I have 2 PCs i want to be able to access. I have downloaded the client App from www.splashtopremote.com and installed it.
One PC is now found but it shows on a horrible resolution and i can only see about a quarter of the screen. The other desktop it cant even find ???
Should I have installed specific ASUS client software ? i couldnt find any ....
oh... for info the one it cant find is Win 7 64 bit if that makes a difference ?
If both pc's are on the same network open up the Splashtop remote streamer on your pc and check under Network and make sure they are set to different port numbers from eachother.
There is a resolution setting in the Splashtop client. By default I beliefve it was 1024x768 you can change it to 1280x800. Also at default it's slightly zoomed out so that's why it looks blurry.
I'm pretty sure that's just how it works and while seeing my 1920x1200 monitor shrink down to 1200x800 made me a little sad, it's really supposed to be about what's on the transformer screen, not your monitor.
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If both pc's are on the same network open up the Splashtop remote streamer on your pc and check under Network and make sure they are set to different port numbers from eachother.
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You shouldn't need different port numbers on physically different machines.
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You shouldn't need different port numbers on physically different machines.
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If he plans to setup port forwarding later for wan access it's easier since not all routers support port translation. But you're right he should be able to manually add the second machine even with the same port.
i tried changing the ports on one.
i tried manually setting up the connection in the setup.
still saying 'could not reach'
....and the resolution is awful. not even close. showing the top left quarter of the expected screen only. i cant find anywhere to change the resolution ???
where should i have got the desktop client from ?
.....plus my 'touch' is way off .... eg in drop downs i have to press about 5 items higher than the one i need.
Ive done something very wrong obviously
Am on a mac, it works but only lets me use the 1024x768 setting and not the native 1280x800
any ideas?
i cant even find anywhere to change the resolution as im accessing it through the ASUS mycloud app
scratch that ... found the settings behing the keyboard
In MyCloud settings hit the pencil to the right of your computer and change the setting to 1200x800. Then connect and your monitor should switch to 1200x800 which is meh looking, but the way it looks on your transformer is all that really mattered to the developers of Splashtop IMO. Kinda makes sense
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OK so i now have more of my desktop showing but i still cant see the windows bar (at the bottom) and my finger press i a long way away from where i want to press.
The PC im trying to control is outputting via HDMI to an HD TV if that would make any difference ??
....and it still wont fing the other PC
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OK so i now have more of my desktop showing but i still cant see the windows bar (at the bottom) and my finger press i a long way away from where i want to press.
The PC im trying to control is outputting via HDMI to an HD TV if that would make any difference ??
....and it still wont fing the other PC
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Not related to splashtop but are you able to use computer one and use remote desktop to connect to computer two?
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Make sure the other machine's firewall isn't blocking Splashtop from being seen on the network. That's quite likely to be your issue.
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i cant even find anywhere to change the resolution as im accessing it through the ASUS mycloud app
scratch that ... found the settings behing the keyboard
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are those setting on the tablet or on the computer desktop?
Never mind. Found it Thanks
Please help
Just got my Transformer but can't find MyCloud and there is no update ...
so i went to the asus support website and try to install the update manually....
but nothing comes out and still don't know what to do......
i guess i installed the wrong update?? did you install it from their support website? i don't really know how to do that actually
if you could help me that would be really appreciated.
Thanks.
Anybody know if there's a way to update the bundled apps? For example, Splashtop Remote is quite a long way out of date -- the included version from Asus is v1.0.0.5 r5324, but v1.1.5.2 came out on April 12th, 11 days before the build date of the latest Transformer release, and there was another release in between, so the version we've got is around two months out of date.
Of course, since we didn't install ourselves through Market, there's no way to update there. I can't find a way to update in the app itself. I've not checked the other bundled apps, but it seems likely they're not all on the current versions either.
To me, this is a big issue (and an argument against bundling software in the first place, unless we can upgrade ourselves). For example the latest Splashtop release is said to fix bugs, and the 1.1.4.1 release in between times had an even longer list of changes (although some seem to be in our 1.0.0.5 build, curiously.)
Edit: I've gone ahead and asked the question of Splashtop directly, too.
Knox,
We probably are only licensed for whatever version Asus gives us. Plus the market version doesnt' let you go above 1024x768 where the one on the Transformer does 1280x800
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Knox,
We probably are only licensed for whatever version Asus gives us. Plus the market version doesnt' let you go above 1024x768 where the one on the Transformer does 1280x800
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I'm hoping that's not the answer, because if it is, it's a strong argument against pre-installing third party apps in the first place. I don't want buggy software on my tablet, and have concerns about potential security risks in not being able to control software myself, as well. If this *is* the answer, it'd be nice if Asus would consider releasing another version of the rom image with all the third-party stuff removed, and let users switch back and forth between the two rom types as they want.
Interesting catch that the Asus version supports resolutions that the retail one doesn't. I see a bunch of people asking for that in Splashtop's forums, wonder why on earth they haven't publicly released it if it was possible in software as long ago as 1.0.0.5? (And it's also possible in iOS versions).
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I'm hoping that's not the answer, because if it is, it's a strong argument against pre-installing third party apps in the first place. I don't want buggy software on my tablet, and have concerns about potential security risks in not being able to control software myself, as well. If this *is* the answer, it'd be nice if Asus would consider releasing another version of the rom image with all the third-party stuff removed, and let users switch back and forth between the two rom types as they want.
Interesting catch that the Asus version supports resolutions that the retail one doesn't. I see a bunch of people asking for that in Splashtop's forums, wonder why on earth they haven't publicly released it if it was possible in software as long ago as 1.0.0.5? (And it's also possible in iOS versions).
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You know you can install splashtop remote and it doesn't interfere with the pre installed one.
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You know you can install splashtop remote and it doesn't interfere with the pre installed one.
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Hadn't tried it, as I was scared I'd pay for it and then find out it conflicted. It was going to be my next question if they said there's no way to update. ;-)
this has happened before on my hd7 and i would hard reset it, and now its happened to my titan, my at&t wireless account app has disappeared after i updated it from the marketplace, it does not show up in my hub list, yet when I go to the market to reinstall it all it does is say "share" meaning that i already have it installed but it isnt visible for me to access.
does anyone know how to bring back this ghost application to my hub list?
I have a similar problem on my Mozart too, I installed a .XAP game (please don't stake me), but it didn't appear anywhere on my phone. Now it's taking up space and the marketplace says I already have it installed on my device. I also tried redeploying the .xap. It installs and everything's fine, but I still can't find it anywhere.
Oh em gee I found my app, it was renamed myAT&T , no longer under the As but under the Ms durrrr!
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I'm still having the problem, can't find them anywhere.
You know, I'd be way more inclined to help you if you'd just bothered to actually pay for the game. Piracy is pretty much a forbidden subject here on XDA, and you're not going to get much respect if you come here asking for help with it.
I'd bother paying for the games if I actually could you know, but since there's no Zune Marketplace in my country I can't. Piracy isn't the reason I'm coming here for help. It's just a .xap problem that could be from an application from any source.
I thought you said you were able to check the marketplace, and it said it was already installed? I know there used to be countries where WP7 was available but Marketplace wasn't, but I thought that got fixed with Mango.
Argh.. I'll give you the benefit of a doubt and hope you're more legit than you sound ("don't stake me"? Really?). Check the Xbox Live app, otherwise known as the Games hub. I keep mine pinned to my Start screen for easy access.
I can use the marketplace, just when it comes to billing for my UK account it requires a UK credit card and I don't have a thing like that. Virtual credit cards and etc. don't work. Anyways. It's nowhere to be found in the games hub or the applications. If I try to download the trial it gets halfway and says 'Attention required' with error code 8103010d, which, according to Microsoft's forums hasn't been resolved yet. I don't want to have it as much as I want to delete it right now.
I just got an Eee pad tf101, and now do the entirety of my web browsing on the tablet where I used to use my laptop. I became very attached to google's chrome to phone app and extension, but now I use the tablet for all my browsing, is there anything that does the same thing from a tablet to a phone? Mostly I used it for linking pictures to my phone and copying text to my phone's clipboard. Thanks in advice.
Transformer tf101
Samsung Vibrant CM7.1 with FFC Mod
Doesn't chrome to phone work on tablets??
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You can download the app on the tablet, and if you want to transfer from your PC to your tablet, but I want to go from tablet to phone. I've not seen anything that offers the option to install the chrome to phone extension on the tablet.
I see what your saying, i normally just gmail it to myself, just a suggestion though. Or i use dropbox, to upload it then download it from anything.
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I've done both of those from time to time, I was just hoping there was a faster, better way to do it. I'm sure there will be before long, especially after the tablet craze this Christmas
Perhaps some of you have already noticed, as I have recently, that there is something called Asus Device Tracker, which enables you to use a kind of stock backdoor in your device in order to - for example - track it via GPS, read your data, take a picture, make a loud sound, wipe it or block it "in case it gets stolen". It's nice to have something like this... but not as an obligatory app. And if you can do it with your device remotely when it's connected to the network, so can somebody else in power (ASUS, some hacker, the police, etc.).
So the question is - how do we disable it?
Edit: Seems that CMClient (and possibly DMClient) is responsible (see discussion below). Removing /system/app/CMClient* helps, but it could disable some functionality, however some preliminary attempts below say maybe it won't after all, unless you remove DMClient.
Edit:: The TF300 users are affected by this as well.
Edit: unknown_owner shared his story in this post: I found this thread after searching for more info on the Device Tracker. To make a long story short, Asus has voided my Prime warranty saying my tablet has been rooted. After digging into them about how they got that information knowing I never sent my tablet to them, they said that they were able to get that from the devicetracker.asus.com website. Not only is it used to used to track the GPS of your tablet, but apparently they are able to get system information as well and something in there told them that my tablet was rooted. My tablet is not unlocked though. So be careful what you do. [highlighting - d14b0ll0s]; see also his follow-up
Edit: Some info from my other posts combined:
I went throught logcat and it seems CMClient can even turn GPS on when it's off and do pretty much any nasty stuff to your device, as it communicates with ASUS servers via https and has all permissions it needs. Interesting. Android devices are as far from open (or free, from that matter) source, as they can be, if we end up with things like this. Freezing CMClient only worked initially, as another process woke it up after another call.
I've just removed CMClient.apk and CMClient.odex from /system/app/ and it won't lock the device remotely anymore, but it still receives the requests to do so through other processes.
It seems the device is still able to look for the OTA updates, DMCommunicator reports sending IMEI number (so this is how the batches are handled?) to https://mdm.asus.com/DMServer/AsusDMServlet and it reports back no new updates. On the other hand, removing DMClient removes OTA functionality completely (you won't even see "check for updates" in your settings menu).
It is not clear where the data is stored. ASUS denies storing it on their servers, while they certainly have access to it. Their support said it was being stored on Google servers, while it's nowhere to be seen on one's Google account. There is no option to opt out from the Device Tracker, too. The company's final statement on this so far seems to be this.
A simple tutoral added - follow this link.
Update: OTA fails if there is no CMClient.apk present:
Code:
Verifying current system...
failed to stat "/system/app/CMClient.apk": No such file or directory
file "/system/app/CMClient.apk" doesn't have any of expected sha1 sums; checking cache
failed to stat "/cache/saved.file": No such file or directory
failed to load cache file
script aborted: assert failed: apply_patch_check("/system/app/CMClient.apk"
... so disconnect when you have the dlpkgfile, restore CMClient, update, restore root, remove CMClient, then reconnect to the WiFi.
Deal with it, then cm10.
Not really a solution, if you mean "get rid of all the bloatware", as I would like to use some of ASUS apps like "MyNet" or Splashtop that come with the Infinity. And I do mean to deal with it - but practically, not psychologically, hence the question about the process which checks for it.
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Not really a solution, if you mean "get rid of all the bloatware", as I would like to use some of ASUS apps like "MyNet" or Splashtop that come with the Infinity. And I do mean to deal with it - but practically, not psychologically, hence the question about the process which checks for it.
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I mean deal with it as in
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"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
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cm10 will be ready soon, just wait a little bit. Other than that, get rid of all the system APKs that look strange to you. If you don't want to mess anything up, comparing the installed apks with a stock rom with gapps (for a phone or whatever) is also a good idea.
I know what you meant I'd just prefer to deal with it like on the old western movies.
I'll have a look at the apps, but I suspect it might be bundled with one of the services or apps that I'm using.
wow I didn't know that. I logged into the device tracker site and watched the log as I started a remote ring. looks like it's a function of CMClient. I froze CMClient and I couldn't remotely ring the tablet anymore. It also looks like the site caches the location as well, though I haven't had a chance to move around to see if that's the case.
Thanks for this! Interesting solution. If I get it right, no CMClient (which cannot be completely turned off through Apps management, btw) means no OTA updates, basically?
Edit: OK, I went throught logcat too, it seems CMClient can even turn GPS on when it's off and do pretty much any nasty stuff to your device, as it communicates with ASUS servers via https and has all permissions it needs. Interesting. Android devices are as far from open (or free, from that matter) source, as they can be, if we end up with things like this. Freezing CMClient only worked initially, as another process woke it up after another call.
Edit: I've just removed CMClient.apk and CMClient.odex from /system/app/ and it won't lock the device remotely anymore, but it still receives the requests to do so through other processes.
It seems the device is still able to look for the OTA updates, DMCommunicator reports sending IMEI number (so this is how the batches are handled?) to https://mdm.asus.com/DMServer/AsusDMServlet and it reports back no new updates.
Man, you guys sure are paranoid around here! Don't use this browser or that browser, disable this or that so no one can "spy" on you, etc...
Do you guys *really* think that Asus is spying on you (or anyone else for that matter)?
The only reason that Asus does this is to provide a service (and a very nice service, in my opinion) - not so that they can "spy" on anyone!
To each their own, but c'mon... Relax and enjoy your tablet...
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Man, you guys sure are paranoid around here! Don't use this browser or that browser, disable this or that so no one can "spy" on you, etc...
Do you guys *really* think that Asus is spying on you (or anyone else for that matter)?
The only reason that Asus does this is to provide a service (and a very nice service, in my opinion) - not so that they can "spy" on anyone!
To each their own, but c'mon... Relax and enjoy your tablet...
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The issue is not really "is Asus spying on us" but actually "can we accept that such a dangerous software is in our tablet without even knowing it".
I have never accepted such an app and, afaik, my worst concern is security : what proves us that this system is well-built and would resist an attack ? "track it via GPS, read your data, take a picture, make a loud sound, wipe it or block it" would you really want to have a hacker reach these kind of informations ?
As for me, I'd prefer not to have this safety (loosing a tablet is not as easy loosing a phone) since it naturally contains flaws.
And btw, I don't know where you have been in the last five years but there has been a lot of cases of companies spying on clients through various backdoor systems. No, they will not spend their day watching you through the camera but could collect a whole pack of data to sell those informations. Accepting this is a serious threat to individual rights, whether you want it or not.
"Where ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise."
To the OP : thanks for the heads up, I must say I am really waiting for CM10 as well, and really hope to get rid of closed software as far as I am able to.
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Man, you guys sure are paranoid around here! Don't use this browser or that browser, disable this or that so no one can "spy" on you, etc...
Do you guys *really* think that Asus is spying on you (or anyone else for that matter)?
The only reason that Asus does this is to provide a service (and a very nice service, in my opinion) - not so that they can "spy" on anyone!
To each their own, but c'mon... Relax and enjoy your tablet...
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I kind of agree there. I'm still loving my Boat Browser!
On another note, I think it takes away from appreciation of a product when everyone recommends a rom as a solution. Not everyone wants to get CM10. I'm not including myself in that, but I really feel for people who genuinely have an issue with their tablet and aren't even rooted and people say "Oh well CM10 is coming."
I agree with the OP, I'd want to know what can be done as is.
Fully agree about the "wait for CM10" line - that is *not* a solution! Personally, any time I load a third-party ROM that isn't based of Asus' ROM, there always seems to be things that don't work or don't work properly (cameras, bluetooth, keyboard dock keys, etc).
What we *really* want is for Asus to fix it! By simply switching to a custom ROM, we're letting Asus off the hook way too easy, which is part of the reason why these issues don't get fixed (instead of everyone telling Asus about the issue, they just use a different ROM - so Asus doesn't fully understand how widespread the issue is).
Regarding the privacy/security stuff - sure, I realize the threat is out there - but I've never personally had any issues with my "privacy". As long as you use common sense about what you do and how you do those things, you'll be fine, without worrying about everyone "spying" on you.
But alas, to each their own.... Personally, I'll continue to use the awesome Boat Browser and not worry about it!
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I believe Ralganaziel covered what it's really about well.
jtrosky, I'm not saying ASUS is spying, I'm saying there is a possibility to do so - are you going to check the logs to be sure or trust nobody will ever gain access to it? I'd rather disable it. The question is: would you accept such a backdoor on your newly bought PC running Windows or Linux?
Anyway, I meant to inform, not convert people with this thread.
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I kind of agree there. I'm still loving my Boat Browser!
On another note, I think it takes away from appreciation of a product when everyone recommends a rom as a solution. Not everyone wants to get CM10. I'm not including myself in that, but I really feel for people who genuinely have an issue with their tablet and aren't even rooted and people say "Oh well CM10 is coming."
I agree with the OP, I'd want to know what can be done as is.
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Asus gets first price for functional bloatware. I appreciate the notice on this, but i am far more concerned with apps tracking my use such as browsers and such like that. Your devices are your biggest security vulnerability which is why whole device encryption is important. The amount of danger I could suffer if my phone were to be compromised is staggering. My schedule, contacts, finances, email, stored credit cards, so on and so forth. So this tool that allows me to remote wipe is actually a huge plus to me as I see it as a winner in the risk/reward comparison. Plus apparently it will let me see notifications on my tablet from my work PC. Need to play with it more. I have my phone set up on my companies OWA so that I can wipe it. I just had to scramble to stop it from getting my text messages, which would be BAAAD to have sitting on the company server.
I love this tracker option! I tend to forget where I put my tablet at times so whenever that happens I just use this! It works like a charm. On serious note....
I was abducted recently while I was in India for a summit meeting. Fortunately I had my Asus tablet. They sent in a Socom team to infiltrate this compound were I was being held hostage. In short, If it weren't for Asus's device tracker I would be dead right now!!!
Edit: I guess for me and a lot of others I assume... "Out of sight out of mind" mentality.
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I love this tracker option! I tend to forget where I put my tablet at times so whenever that happens I just use this! It works like a charm. On serious note....
I was abducted recently while I was in India for a summit meeting. Fortunately I had my Asus tablet. They sent in a Socom team to infiltrate this compound were I was being held hostage. In short, If it weren't for Asus's device tracker I would be dead right now!!!
Edit: I guess for me and a lot of others I assume... "Out of sight out of mind" mentality.
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They need to make an app for your phone that triggers the alarm/wipe/and other features. That would be handy.
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They need to make an app for your phone that triggers the alarm/wipe/and other features. That would be handy.
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I realized this with the absolute must have app Tasker.
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Fully agree about the "wait for CM10" line - that is *not* a solution! Personally, any time I load a third-party ROM that isn't based of Asus' ROM, there always seems to be things that don't work or don't work properly (cameras, bluetooth, keyboard dock keys, etc).
What we *really* want is for Asus to fix it! By simply switching to a custom ROM, we're letting Asus off the hook way too easy, which is part of the reason why these issues don't get fixed (instead of everyone telling Asus about the issue, they just use a different ROM - so Asus doesn't fully understand how widespread the issue is).
Regarding the privacy/security stuff - sure, I realize the threat is out there - but I've never personally had any issues with my "privacy". As long as you use common sense about what you do and how you do those things, you'll be fine, without worrying about everyone "spying" on you.
But alas, to each their own.... Personally, I'll continue to use the awesome Boat Browser and not worry about it!
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I totally agree with your view on the ROMs, it is great to be able to replace their firmware with custom ones but they are usually missing something or don't have support for "X" feature or application. We can't let them off the hook- they need to provide official firmware that just works and has the spit and polish that we expect from the maker of the device. Don't let this one turn into a TF201!! Pressure them until they make things right!! I have had multiple 700s and can still say that I am seeing stuttering and hangs with every one I have seen.
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I believe Ralganaziel covered what it's really about well.
jtrosky, I'm not saying ASUS is spying, I'm saying there is a possibility to do so - are you going to check the logs to be sure or trust nobody will ever gain access to it? I'd rather disable it. The question is: would you accept such a backdoor on your newly bought PC running Windows or Linux?
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Your question should include Apple computers also... they allow you to do virtually the same exact thing that Asus is letting you do. Matter of fact, you made a statement about what could happen if a hacker compromised the system-- This is what can and does happen when hackers get into your account that can wipe devices and view data: http://www.emptyage.com/post/28679875595/yes-i-was-hacked-hard
As important as your privacy is, this is a service that is useful. I personally used it when the wife had misplaced the tablet and called to ask me where it was- imagine how nice it was to login and send a notification to it that she could hear and locate the tab.
That being said, disclosure is VERY IMPORTANT and I believe that they could have mitigated everyone's concern over this by providing a disclaimer and notification as well as allowing it to be disabled easily. It is not like this is new though... been around since the OG transformer.
^ Good point, jordanmw. I just want some clear rules here. I would even consider using this, if it wasn't smuggled like some hidden agenda beneath the cloak of updating services et al.
And I didn't include Apple just because there were many reports of Apple locking stolen devices per request OTA through some backdoor popping up out of nowhere, so I don't trust them at all and wouldn't like Android devices to follow such standards.
Edit: I've read the story from the link you posted, a very informative piece, especially Update Three, which shows how weak most of our security methods are because of the human factor. It shows that the only secure way is to make things harder sometimes, as just because we want easy solutions we can get into much trouble. The passwords stored locally and not transmitted anywhere are still the way to go. As is PGP better than trusting somebody will do the same for you.
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...And btw, I don't know where you have been in the last five years but there has been a lot of cases of companies spying on clients through various backdoor systems. No, they will not spend their day watching you through the camera...
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Oh, man, I would totally moon them, cheeks pulled wide. And I'd refrain from shaving all hair on my ass for at leats two months prior. LOL!
Hey, jdeoxys, come in here and make a butt joke!
He's Keion now, new personality means missed opportunities
I remember a story about a guy who was doing "tech support" on-line, telling thousands of women to install a certain program and then bring their laptops to the bathroom, so the device could regenerate / make the dust disappear or something and he was collecting countless pictures of them having a bath, lol It's after he was arrested the story got to the news, of course, after some months of nice work.