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So I've not been in LCD land for a while, but decided to indulge in a Sensation as my N1 was just becoming too old for my taste.
I miss the deep blacks and extreme viewing angles. But this screen isn't so bad.
One question though. I notice that while scrolling the text seems to kind off flicker. Like its struggling to keep up with the pixel refresh.
Is this normal?
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Hmm happens with just about any moving element on the screen.
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Figured out what it was. Different screens.
PANEL_ID_PYD_AUO_NT
That screen has the grain and the text motion blur/fuzz issue.
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Same problem here, I'm not sure what to do. I would like to not have the flicker, but besides that issue, my phone is perfect. And, I've heard the Sharp display is definitely not without its issues.
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Same problem here, I'm not sure what to do. I would like to not have the flicker, but besides that issue, my phone is perfect. And, I've heard the Sharp display is definitely not without its issues.
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I'm planning to exchange mine. Held the two side by side and I like the sharp one better. Doesn't bother the eyes as much. What other problems have you heard about the sharp display?
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I've just heard about it having really poor contrast. Which is a big issue to me, because the SLCD already has poor contrast. Besides the flicker, the AUO looks excellent to me. I guess I'll see how annoying it gets. Stupid HTC. How can it take them this long to release an unlocking OTA? Jeez.
I believe this visual effect is more obvious on sensation because of higher resolution. Both screens have it, sharp and aou. Also, other screens on previous devices had it, but since resoluyion was lower and letters appeared bigger you didn't notice it. Just my 2c.
tinky1 said:
I believe this visual effect is more obvious on sensation because of higher resolution. Both screens have it, sharp and aou. Also, other screens on previous devices had it, but since resoluyion was lower and letters appeared bigger you didn't notice it. Just my 2c.
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The last LCD phone I used was the G1... and yah you're right, it was there too, just had nothing better to compare it with to notice it at the time.
But since I'm coming from an N1, its kinda like.... whoaaaa whatdafuchhhhh?
Shellshock.
Running Sloth said:
But since I'm coming from an N1, its kinda like.... whoaaaa whatdafuchhhhh?
Shellshock.
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My initial reaction coming from Desire SLCD was exactly the same.
Running Sloth said:
So I've not been in LCD land for a while, but decided to indulge in a Sensation as my N1 was just becoming too old for my taste.
I miss the deep blacks and extreme viewing angles. But this screen isn't so bad.
One question though. I notice that while scrolling the text seems to kind off flicker. Like its struggling to keep up with the pixel refresh.
Is this normal?
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This is not normal, several User's have found that they have different LCD types
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131592
And having one might affect the text when scrolling. Although not confirmed, this could also be a simple software issue. When we gain root access, trying a new ROM could help because HTC Sense is still not polished and there are bugs that can affect these types of problems.
Knucklessg1 said:
This is not normal, several User's have found that they have different LCD types
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131592
And having one might affect the text when scrolling. Although not confirmed, this could also be a simple software issue. When we gain root access, trying a new ROM could help because HTC Sense is still not polished and there are bugs that can affect these types of problems.
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True, was reading up on that thread after I wrote on this one. I tried both panels side by side at a TMO store and found that it is the screen that causes the issue.
Its not as pronounced on the Sharp Panel, lot better, vs the one I have.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYH4Y4zo4cM
Here is a video of the flicker. For the record.
Good day fellas,
I'm seeing a lot of video and comments on screen comparisons between Htc sensation 4G and Gs 2 and on.
My question is, I'm currently on SG 1 looking to upgrade to either sensation 4G or GS2, I'm concerned about the screen quality, I'm debating wether I should order the phone or not. I can get it at a very low price (employee pricing).
The phone has a higher res. Screen, I'm trying to convince myself that the difference in screen quality is not that big, but I would like you guys to tell me what you think from your experiences, is the GS2 worth the extra $, is the screen really that much better than the S4G, anything else from your point of view that should be considered???
Thanks in advance,
Rodi
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I bought a sensation, and quite frankly, it is the best phone I have ever had. It is pretty well built, and feels awesome to hold.
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The_Green_Android_Robot said:
I bought a sensation, and quite frankly, it is the best phone I have ever had. It is pretty well built, and feels awesome to hold.
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+1
No screen washout for me, as well.
Also something to add, in almost all the videos comparisons, when looking at the phones side by side the sensation looks practically white in comparison to the gs2. My only concern with the phone is the screen.
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I personally got a Sensation while my GF has a GS2, you can clearly see that both screens aren't the same: one is SLCD & the other is AMOLED.
The GS2 has saturated, neon-ish colors which at some times seem a bit too much, it is particularly notable in the android market: the green is VERY saturated. When put side by side it can make the Sensation seem very washed out.
I have also read on wikipedia that AMOLED displays have a shorter life compared to SLCD because of the organic components in it. The varied lifespan of the organic dyes can cause a discrepancy between red, green, and blue intensity. This leads to image persistence, also known as burn-in.
After a few weeks of use I've got used to my phone and am truly happy about my display, even though it isn't as saturated as the GS2 it still is a great LCD display with rich colors, clear whites & deep blacks and my movies look crystal sharp on it. Also the extra resolution is very much appreciated and is quite notable when I compare it to my GF's GS2, specially in the menus, mails & internet browser - the pixels aren't noticeable.
What I can tell you is that I was faced with the same choice as you: HTC Sensation or SGS2 and the display was also the most important thing for me since it's the way you interact with your phone. And i'm glad I chose the Sensation
Cool thanks for the info, I just ordered it from my work
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Hi all, I moved form galaxy s to sensation and been wondering about screen ghosting. Is every sensation have this ghosting when circle through the screen and scrolling? This is not happen in galaxy s at all. Sensation is great (fast, stable, love sense 3.0) but this bug me a little.
I have this issue. Its really annoying, some users call it tearing..dont know proper word. It can be clearly seen when scrolling white text on black background. Black text on white background is not so bad but overall screen is low quality by my opinion. Terrible viewing angles also. My old desire has alslo slcd but its much better quality. Another issue can be seen when browsing xda forums trough browser..when scrolling whole screen is changing colors, blinking slightly..Will wait for new nexus and then I will sell it..
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Its called screen tearing yes, the pixel response time from a color change or screen movement causes this effect. The sensation has different screens but from my observation all have the ghosting effect, but its only noticeable with black pixel change, some colors can be harder to change rapidly against other colors and it seems to be the case with the sensation screen.
hmm ... I've been using my sensation for 3 months now, ... never had screen tearing. Maybe you can ask for a replacement?
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hmm ... I've been using my sensation for 3 months now, ... never had screen tearing. Maybe you can ask for a replacement?
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Seriously u don't have that problem? even when scrolling in setting like scroll slowly (the white text is blur)? confirm this pls and i'll go exchange it tomorrow.
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Seriously u don't have that problem? even when scrolling in setting like scroll slowly (the white text is blur)? confirm this pls and i'll go exchange it tomorrow.
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I certainly do not have this problem. Even when scrolling a white text on a black background (like in settings), the text is still very sharp and clear
AFAIK, Sensations' LCDs are manufactured by few different companies.
There are "good batch" and "poor batch" sensations, similar to any other htc's smartphones (eg: HD7)
I have read about few people having this problem in this forum. Try getting a replacement, Hopefully, that one wont be having this issue anymore
I have used 6 Sensations. Four of them had this problem and all four displays were the one made by Acer. It was very noticeable in the settings menu. The two Sharp panels my wife and I have do not do this.
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Is this definitely hardware issue? Not a smallest chance it can be fixed with some update? anyway htc sucks producing "good" and "bad" batches..
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pete777 said:
Is this definitely hardware issue? Not a smallest chance it can be fixed with some update? anyway htc sucks producing "good" and "bad" batches..
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It's hardware. not really an "Issue" .... just lower quality displays compared to other ones.
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It's hardware. not really an "Issue" .... just lower quality displays compared to other ones.
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Its sad that htc is using lower quality displays in theirs flagship..
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I have used 6 Sensations. Four of them had this problem and all four displays were the one made by Acer. It was very noticeable in the settings menu. The two Sharp panels my wife and I have do not do this.
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My Sharp panel has this problem. Just pointing this out so that people won't think getting a Sharp screen will automatically solve the issue.
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My Sharp panel has this problem. Just pointing this out so that people won't think getting a Sharp screen will automatically solve the issue.
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Every screen does to certain extent even my iPad ips panel has some ghosting. The acer panel on the sensation definitely shows it more than the sharp though
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aim1126 said:
Every screen does to certain extent even my iPad ips panel has some ghosting. The acer panel on the sensation definitely shows it more than the sharp though
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never got that in sgs which is last year model. that's y i am a bit annoyed as i upgrade not downgrade.
my cousin's sensation has this ghosting its really bad, the screen response time is very low anything higher then 30FPS will revel bad ghosting
my desire Hd has very slight ghosting
my old classic desire SLCD/Amoled screen had non of this
sensation XL has an amazing IPS screen with very high response time
so i dont know, lets hope HTC learned how bad this is, ICS is 60fps GPU accelerated UI, low response screens are not welcome
hard to believe we are discussing LCD response times in this time and age, i wanted to buy my cousin's sensation but now i stopped
oh and by the way the HD2 4.3" have non of the ghosting or pattern issues what the hell?!
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It's hardware. not really an "Issue" .... just lower quality displays compared to other ones.
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This... just took apart a defective LCD I got from China. It's an Acer brand unit that looks fuzzy as if there's a film on the screen.
I had a Sensation when they first came out (Sharp screen) and knew I had a new faulty LCD the minute I turned this one on. Needless to say is going back and I'm in the hunt for a Sharp unit. Not worried about dust as I'm going seal it up real good when i finish the repair
Lol I've opened this phone up so many times in the last couple days i can swap screens perfectly in less than 20 mins from start to finish
Yes i can agree i have never had this problem either
So..
Today I got a letter, saying after the a mount of repairs you have had, you will know get a white samsung galaxy s2 in exchange for only 25 $ !!!!
So therefor I am saying goodbye to HTC sensation
Dang u get that from tmo
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TheStigx said:
So..
Today I got a letter, saying after the a mount of repairs you have had, you will know get a white samsung galaxy s2 in exchange for only 25 $ !!!!
So therefor I am saying goodbye to HTC sensation
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Yuck. Now all you need is the white Ipad to be complete.
Matt
Naah, it's a danish company Ipad isn't me, asus transformer prime sound more like it
I liked the part where you though it was a good deal...
I know I wouldn't like the GSII to replace my Sensation..
What is the point of this thread?
I have both of them, and i'm using my Sensation while my SGSII is on the shelf, ugly and plastic phone....
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I liked the part where you though it was a good deal...
I know I wouldn't like the GSII to replace my Sensation..
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+1 lol
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I have both of them, and i'm using my Sensation while my SGSII is on the shelf, ugly and plastic phone....
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I don't think it's ugly but I certainly agree the build quality is poor compared to the Sensation.
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I liked the part where you though it was a good deal...
I know I wouldn't like the GSII to replace my Sensation..
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I liked it too. the SG2 is better than sensation, it's a fact. Just horrible, that is the sensation.
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I liked it too. the SG2 is better than sensation, it's a fact. Just horrible, that is the sensation.
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What do you dislike about the Sensation?
Just curious to know since I had the choice between a SG2 and Sensation.
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What do you dislike about the Sensation?
Just curious to know since I had the choice between a SG2 and Sensation.
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First, i'ts the lack of support for the sensation. Power button issue, never really fixed? Battery problem is STILL there. Not as fast as a SG2. Also the build quality is nice, but doesn't hold long. The volume button is very loose, and some byers have experenced that it will fall off. Also there is that "crack" sound, when you push the buttom of the sensation. The sound of somthing not fitting. Also the audio problem, when recording.
Hope you like your galaxy. me, I like my sensation and wouldn't trade for a galaxy unless it came with a hot blonde or a helper monkey
When i saw the title of the thread i thought you were happy about something!!! /s
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First, i'ts the lack of support for the sensation. Power button issue, never really fixed? Battery problem is STILL there. Not as fast as a SG2. Also the build quality is nice, but doesn't hold long. The volume button is very loose, and some byers have experenced that it will fall off. Also there is that "crack" sound, when you push the buttom of the sensation. The sound of somthing not fitting. Also the audio problem, when recording.
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Lack of support ! ? Lol, you will see the lack of support with SGSII.. Power button issue - solved (with kernel ofcourse). Battery problem - solved with firmware.. Not as fast as SGSII? Its faster with custom rom ofcourse. Volume button is loose ? Not on my sensation.. Crack sound ? Yes, but when u take off back cover and put it back for like 5 times, you dont get it anymore..
Whatsoever, there were alot of threads with this theme (Sensation vs SGSII or goodbye Sensation etc...), and it always turns into bad argue between 2 sides (often without arguments from each side)..
You dont like Sensation, i do .. You like SGSII, i dont..
And, one more thing, i dont undestand the point of this thread..
Cheers mate
cool story bro
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I have a sensation and just because of the freaking dust underneath my screen I'd wanna trade ir for the GSII in a heart beat, II think it's a BIIIIIG flaw otherwise the sensation is prettier and firm.
I love its aluminum.
GS2 looks horrible with its bigger screen and lower resolution.
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Sergio60052 said:
I have a sensation and just because of the freaking dust underneath my screen I'd wanna trade ir for the GSII in a heart beat, II think it's a BIIIIIG flaw otherwise the sensation is prettier and firm.
I love its aluminum.
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This.
Had my sensation for about 3-4 months with no issues and then one morning: POOF, dust under the screen. Still waiting for it from HTC, taking like 2 weeks now and I had to buy another phone to get me by until they send it back. The sensation has terrible build quality. The materials used aren't bad, but the way the phone is put together is stupid (battery cover design is horrible).
I just did the opposite because got two gs2 with bad headphone jack hope you have better luck love my sensation
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Ill be the guys who says congratulations.
I have both of these devices and to me at least the Sensation is an overrated brick.. and even though the screen res is lesser on a bigger screen when i look at the sensation next to the SGS 2 the sensation looks gross and washed out.. SAMOLED + is a good thing..
And i know alot of you seem to think because the Sensation is made of Aluminum it makes it a better build quality... But i think your very wrong.. Yes the SGS 2 is Plastic but thats not a bad thing. Its very strong and its incredibly light. The Sensation would pull your pants down if your belt came loose its so heavy.. and amazing how with that superior build quality how everyone who has one seems to get dust under the glass...
And I know that they have the same chipset, but honestly the Sensation compared to my SGS II in fluidity and smoothness during use the Sensation just is a big fat looser.. I tried to play ShadowGun on both and the Sensation was very choppy and for whatever reason just could do it as nice as the SGSG 2 which plays SG smooth as butter..
Funny because I just posted about how much problems my wife has had with the Sensation she wants her OG G2 back LMAO..
So to each his own but dont bust on the guy for getting what i believe is a superior device to what your using..
PHones are getting bigger and bigger... I dont want a new phone that's bigger than the sensation
My dream phone is a 4.3" with 720p display nonpentile. Metal body. Silver edges. 12mp camera like n8. S4 pro processor. 32 flash storage. A really nice audio board that supports surround. Course HDMI out. Android of course. And comes in variety of colors.
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Sony is the only one who made a flagship 4.3" device with 720p screen I believe
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PHones are getting bigger and bigger... I dont want a new phone that's bigger than the sensation
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Lol, the One S has the same screen size and is roughly the same size over all as the Sensation, though the One S is thinner. It also has a faster CPU clock (compared to original Sensation), more RAM, more internal SYSTEM memory, triple the data speeds (based on theoretical top speeds), a larger battery (though as we all know it's not removable), and drastically improved camera sensor. Sounds like a worthy successor to me!
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Sony is the only one who made a flagship 4.3" device with 720p screen I believe
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i can live with that
Big downside with the ONE series is that there is a sealed battery. Stopping me from buying it! That and I have no money at the minute
Yea, sealed battery? Who do they think they are? Apple? They act like they dont know why iPhones are such a success. "Ah hell, maybe its the sealed battery?"
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Yea, sealed battery? Who do they think they are? Apple? They act like they dont know why iPhones are such a success. "Ah hell, maybe its the sealed battery?"
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Lmao
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PHones are getting bigger and bigger... I dont want a new phone that's bigger than the sensation
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Well there has to be a cap. We are already heading towards tablet sized phones like.
sent from my android powered beast!
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Yea, sealed battery? Who do they think they are? Apple? They act like they dont know why iPhones are such a success. "Ah hell, maybe its the sealed battery?"
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Well, the unibody has one big advantage: the phone feels rock solid, the case won't make "squeaks" in time like the one on the Sensation does. But I can't stand the fact that I can't replace my damn battery.
Regarding screen size: for me 4.3" is big enough. 4.7" phones tend to be unconfortable in skinny jeans and hard to use single handed (ex: when you're behind the wheel).
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Well, the unibody has one big advantage: the phone feels rock solid, the case won't make "squeaks" in time like the one on the Sensation does. But I can't stand the fact that I can't replace my damn battery.
Regarding screen size: for me 4.3" is big enough. 4.7" phones tend to be unconfortable in skinny jeans and hard to use single handed (ex: when you're behind the wheel).
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Only an advantage if it bothers you. I build **** all the time, perfection is not easily attained. When it comes to a device with multiple radios, portable power, a screen, user interaction, etc etc, all in a 11ish mm frame, I'm grateful that it creaks and squeakes.
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My dream phone is a 4.3" with 720p display nonpentile. Metal body. Silver edges. 12mp camera like n8. S4 pro processor. 32 flash storage. A really nice audio board that supports surround. Course HDMI out. Android of course. And comes in variety of colors.
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Its close to xperia s specs
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22VIN said:
Well, the unibody has one big advantage: the phone feels rock solid, the case won't make "squeaks" in time like the one on the Sensation does. But I can't stand the fact that I can't replace my damn battery.
Regarding screen size: for me 4.3" is big enough. 4.7" phones tend to be unconfortable in skinny jeans and hard to use single handed (ex: when you're behind the wheel).
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Maybe it's a good thing if you can't use your phone behind the wheel. Most communications aren't that important that they can't wait until you're at your destination.
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Sony is the only one who made a flagship 4.3" device with 720p screen I believe
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HTC Rezound is 4.3" with 720p screen
I think we can put in another way.
For me is a nonsense to talk about display size, because it can be a 4.3" but with a big bezel. ONE S has a bigger bezel for example (just go and read the dimensions, you'll see more mm than sensation). So the important thing is the overall dimension.
I think that the perfect phone has a 720p rgb full display (4.3, or 4.5 with no bezel I don't care), with a removable long lasting battery and with dimensions smaller than 64*125.
Sealed it better. It means the battery can be bigger while the phone remains skinny. It's not like you can't use an external battery anyway.
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I think we can put in another way.
For me is a nonsense to talk about display size, because it can be a 4.3" but with a big bezel. ONE S has a bigger bezel for example (just go and read the dimensions, you'll see more mm than sensation). So the important thing is the overall dimension.
I think that the perfect phone has a 720p rgb full display (4.3, or 4.5 with no bezel I don't care), with a removable long lasting battery and with dimensions smaller than 64*125.
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Whit the bezel getting too thin, problems arise. You will, unintentionally touch the screen with the side of your palm and it will be more likely to break it.
For me, the sensation has the perfect size. This trend for bigger and bigger screens is just madness. If I want a big screen, I just grab my tablet and give that a go.
You're right, but first I think that they could develop some kind ok sensor technology able to distinguish when you're just holding it and when you mean to touch it, second if it's impossible to reduce the bezel, well okay just make the screen smaller to fit 64x125
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My dream phone is a 4.3" with 720p display nonpentile. Metal body. Silver edges. 12mp camera like n8. S4 pro processor. 32 flash storage. A really nice audio board that supports surround. Course HDMI out. Android of course. And comes in variety of colors.
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Sounds like a very nice phone lpl
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in terms of smaller housing on phone you guys need to remember that it needs to pass drop tests. that is the reason verizon didn't get the original razer. when moto brought it to verizon they took it at waist height and dropped it on the floor and the demo broke. it was rejected until it could pass their drop tests which were the strictest in the industry next to nextel. since then they have drastically reduced their drop test criteria. strength of the bezel is part of that test. they can create a super thin fast badass phone but it it breaks on a 1 foot drop then it will meet with *****ing and complaining from everyone. the one s seems to be a nice combination of small and strong.
The xperia s has the same CPU as the sensation
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