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Text rendering flicker while scrolling

So I've not been in LCD land for a while, but decided to indulge in a Sensation as my N1 was just becoming too old for my taste.
I miss the deep blacks and extreme viewing angles. But this screen isn't so bad.
One question though. I notice that while scrolling the text seems to kind off flicker. Like its struggling to keep up with the pixel refresh.
Is this normal?
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Hmm happens with just about any moving element on the screen.
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Figured out what it was. Different screens.
PANEL_ID_PYD_AUO_NT
That screen has the grain and the text motion blur/fuzz issue.
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Same problem here, I'm not sure what to do. I would like to not have the flicker, but besides that issue, my phone is perfect. And, I've heard the Sharp display is definitely not without its issues.

xSDMx said:
Same problem here, I'm not sure what to do. I would like to not have the flicker, but besides that issue, my phone is perfect. And, I've heard the Sharp display is definitely not without its issues.
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I'm planning to exchange mine. Held the two side by side and I like the sharp one better. Doesn't bother the eyes as much. What other problems have you heard about the sharp display?
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I've just heard about it having really poor contrast. Which is a big issue to me, because the SLCD already has poor contrast. Besides the flicker, the AUO looks excellent to me. I guess I'll see how annoying it gets. Stupid HTC. How can it take them this long to release an unlocking OTA? Jeez.

I believe this visual effect is more obvious on sensation because of higher resolution. Both screens have it, sharp and aou. Also, other screens on previous devices had it, but since resoluyion was lower and letters appeared bigger you didn't notice it. Just my 2c.

tinky1 said:
I believe this visual effect is more obvious on sensation because of higher resolution. Both screens have it, sharp and aou. Also, other screens on previous devices had it, but since resoluyion was lower and letters appeared bigger you didn't notice it. Just my 2c.
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The last LCD phone I used was the G1... and yah you're right, it was there too, just had nothing better to compare it with to notice it at the time.
But since I'm coming from an N1, its kinda like.... whoaaaa whatdafuchhhhh?
Shellshock.

Running Sloth said:
But since I'm coming from an N1, its kinda like.... whoaaaa whatdafuchhhhh?
Shellshock.
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My initial reaction coming from Desire SLCD was exactly the same.

Running Sloth said:
So I've not been in LCD land for a while, but decided to indulge in a Sensation as my N1 was just becoming too old for my taste.
I miss the deep blacks and extreme viewing angles. But this screen isn't so bad.
One question though. I notice that while scrolling the text seems to kind off flicker. Like its struggling to keep up with the pixel refresh.
Is this normal?
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This is not normal, several User's have found that they have different LCD types
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131592
And having one might affect the text when scrolling. Although not confirmed, this could also be a simple software issue. When we gain root access, trying a new ROM could help because HTC Sense is still not polished and there are bugs that can affect these types of problems.

Knucklessg1 said:
This is not normal, several User's have found that they have different LCD types
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131592
And having one might affect the text when scrolling. Although not confirmed, this could also be a simple software issue. When we gain root access, trying a new ROM could help because HTC Sense is still not polished and there are bugs that can affect these types of problems.
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True, was reading up on that thread after I wrote on this one. I tried both panels side by side at a TMO store and found that it is the screen that causes the issue.
Its not as pronounced on the Sharp Panel, lot better, vs the one I have.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYH4Y4zo4cM
Here is a video of the flicker. For the record.

Screen bleed and washed out colors...exchange?

I just noticed the screen bleed at the bottom.
The colors are very washed out. I have my g2x and sensation side by side and the colors and contrast are very washed out on the sensation.
The blacks on the sensation are very washed ... Looks horrible next to the g2x.
Thinking if I should go exchange the sensation for another device...
Any sensation owners out there that also own a g2x verify the noticeable difference?

which screen panel do u have?
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anything like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14996557#post14996557

I do remember seeing a post on how to check...would you know off hand what the link is?
Thanks in advance.
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which screen panel do u have?
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Here, read the first post where it says how to do it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131592

I have two Sensations and a G2X. One of the Sensations has a Sharp panel and the other has a Acer panel.
The Acer panel is brighter, better contrast and more vibrant the the G2X but the Sharp panel has bad contrast, dull colors and gets extremely washed out at slight angles. The Sharp however does have the sharpest text of them all and I think it's color reproduction is more accurate than the others, it just isn't anything special. It wouldn't catch the normal persons eye when siting in a store like the Acer panel would due to it's vibrant colors and rich blacks.
Neither one of my Sensations has bleeding but my G2X has some in the two upper corners.

You have a faulty Sensation it would seem. Screen bleed is common on the G2x, not the Sensation. You should exchange.
I had bad bleeding on my G2x....went with HTC....now I'm happy.

StefanB86 said:
Here, read the first post where it says how to do it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131592
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Thanks...
Going to exchange ... Hope to get an acer screen

Question about the screen S4G

Good day fellas,
I'm seeing a lot of video and comments on screen comparisons between Htc sensation 4G and Gs 2 and on.
My question is, I'm currently on SG 1 looking to upgrade to either sensation 4G or GS2, I'm concerned about the screen quality, I'm debating wether I should order the phone or not. I can get it at a very low price (employee pricing).
The phone has a higher res. Screen, I'm trying to convince myself that the difference in screen quality is not that big, but I would like you guys to tell me what you think from your experiences, is the GS2 worth the extra $, is the screen really that much better than the S4G, anything else from your point of view that should be considered???
Thanks in advance,
Rodi
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I bought a sensation, and quite frankly, it is the best phone I have ever had. It is pretty well built, and feels awesome to hold.
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The_Green_Android_Robot said:
I bought a sensation, and quite frankly, it is the best phone I have ever had. It is pretty well built, and feels awesome to hold.
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+1
No screen washout for me, as well.

Also something to add, in almost all the videos comparisons, when looking at the phones side by side the sensation looks practically white in comparison to the gs2. My only concern with the phone is the screen.
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I personally got a Sensation while my GF has a GS2, you can clearly see that both screens aren't the same: one is SLCD & the other is AMOLED.
The GS2 has saturated, neon-ish colors which at some times seem a bit too much, it is particularly notable in the android market: the green is VERY saturated. When put side by side it can make the Sensation seem very washed out.
I have also read on wikipedia that AMOLED displays have a shorter life compared to SLCD because of the organic components in it. The varied lifespan of the organic dyes can cause a discrepancy between red, green, and blue intensity. This leads to image persistence, also known as burn-in.
After a few weeks of use I've got used to my phone and am truly happy about my display, even though it isn't as saturated as the GS2 it still is a great LCD display with rich colors, clear whites & deep blacks and my movies look crystal sharp on it. Also the extra resolution is very much appreciated and is quite notable when I compare it to my GF's GS2, specially in the menus, mails & internet browser - the pixels aren't noticeable.
What I can tell you is that I was faced with the same choice as you: HTC Sensation or SGS2 and the display was also the most important thing for me since it's the way you interact with your phone. And i'm glad I chose the Sensation

Cool thanks for the info, I just ordered it from my work
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Screen does not perfectly fit the unibody

Who got the same problem? I already swapped 3 times for a new HTC Desire S in the store. Today I got the 4th one. But still the same annoying problem. I can see that the screen doesn't perfectly fit on the unibody. I can also see the backlight shine through the border of the screen (at 3 spots) - so called light leak. The seller said that it's because of the unibody and the screen is pasted above the body (he suggested another phone because all the unibodies will have the same problem, but I like to stick with the Desire S).
I think I have to live with it, because all the 4 phones got the same fault.
Maybe you all should check the screen closely (the whole border).
If someone knows a solution, please let me know. I will wait a little bit, maybe I will put a bit of kit in the gaps...
Greetings,
Faraaz
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Its weird, cause i dont have that issue.. what color is your phone? gray or black

my screen fits perfectly,i dont have this issue
mine is black

superkid said:
Its weird, cause i dont have that issue.. what color is your phone? gray or black
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I got the grey version. Maybe a bad shipment to the Netherlands. I have read on a german forum, that people have the same problem...
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I have the black version, had the grey one and there had the issue with the screen... i think the grey ones are made bad

Yeah could be. I also wanted the black version, but it wasn't available in the shops I went. I will ask if they can order a black one. I have 30 days return policy.
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I have the black version and it has a small gap on the top of the screen...
So it has nothing to do with the color lol.
Nothing too obvious though....

my gray DS is okay, only little problem is with back cover...

xD well, so there are some good and some bad no matter color

I have sent an e-mail to HTC with the so called light leaked problem. I'm curious what the respond will be.
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I've a black one and it has minimal gaps, such that I can see a tiny orange LED light leakage from the top of the screen edge and at the bottom right hand side I can see slight light leakage from the hard button backlights.
But these are only visible in a dark room after careful angling and rotating of the device...So ultimately, doesn't effect the operation of the phone, so doesn't bother me.

Black one here and never noticed anything wrong with the screen fit/build.
Is it just an aesthetic problem or does this cause issues with the phone operation?

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Black one here and never noticed anything wrong with the screen fit/build.
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purely a looks issue, just a shane that such a nice device can be flawed like this
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Looking at it, I kinda see what you mean, but it doesn't bother me all that much. A thin black edge around the actual display on all sides, and if you tilt the phone you can sometimes see the light escaping from the soft buttons' backlights.
Doesn't bother me at all thankfully.
My girlfriend's wildfire S's screen mismatch however... that winds me up just being in the same ROOM as the damn thing.

faraaz said:
I have sent an e-mail to HTC with the so called light leaked problem. I'm curious what the respond will be.
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Got a reply today. It is in dutch, but in short:
"HTC is not familiar with the issue. You got to send the phone for repair and then we will look at it".
I also put links of xda forum, android hilfe and google (search: light leak htc) in my message. But HTC pretends that they know nothing. It's ashame. No more HTC for me. The 4th HTC Desire S with problems is not right. It's not a low budget phone...
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hi,
i have the same problem here.
it's my third htc desire s, all of them with thsoe gaps..even srrounding the capacitive keys
I hate it
i dont know if im going to change again for a desire s or to change brand

Mine is black, my wife's is blue... both of them have perfectly fitted screens! Sounds like the store you're buying from is trying to shift dodgy stock!

LaKraven said:
Mine is black, my wife's is blue... both of them have perfectly fitted screens! Sounds like the store you're buying from is trying to shift dodgy stock!
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This unfortunately is a common problem but not that severe, it effects devices sold in many countries, although after your experience with that one shop I'd follow advice given and would try an alternative shop or try to possibly buy online.

faraaz said:
"HTC is not familiar with the issue. You got to send the phone for repair and then we will look at it".
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I did this, got it back after 10 days. They hadn't done squat, it still leaks exactly the same as before.
And for the record, it's a black one.

I've had 3 Desire S's, all black. One of them was fine, the other has a slight leak. My current one is a little worse. Also noticed that the screen isn't aligned properly. Sending it back to the seller for a replacement soon. I think it's just a hit or miss thing.

[Q] Difference between brightness of HTC One S 1.5 vs 1.7

Hello Brothers.
I have both Htc One S 1.5 and 1.7.
what I am facing a real problem that there is a difference in brightness in the both phones,
1.7 is bright and white and 1.5,s screen is bit yellowish. Is any one got this difference or its a difference between the software's diffrence as the 1.5 have jelly bean and 1.7 is older version yet not updated.
Any one observe the same ? help or solution..

attique.wains said:
Hello Brothers.
I have both Htc One S 1.5 and 1.7.
what I am facing a real problem that there is a difference in brightness in the both phones,
1.7 is bright and white and 1.5,s screen is bit yellowish. Is any one got this difference or its a difference between the software's diffrence as the 1.5 have jelly bean and 1.7 is older version yet not updated.
Any one observe the same ? help or solution..
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What is 1.5 and 1.7?
And as far as yellowish screen is concerned, I also have this issue with my phone (S3). I read some other users also reported it.
When viewing the screen, it looks a bit yellowish, however if i tilt it a bit forward or backward, the yellowish color goes away and white looks bright and pure white.
My phone also has JB. I got this phone already upgraded to JB, so not sure whether the same thing was on ICS or not.
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omer7 said:
What is 1.5 and 1.7?
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1.5Ghz Snapdragon S4, 1.7Ghz Snapdragon S3.
I have the S4 and I have no problems with the colours from the display, white is definitely white, just the bloody RGBG display that HTC fitted is my only complaint with the screen.

kylepont said:
1.5Ghz Snapdragon S4, 1.7Ghz Snapdragon S3.
I have the S4 and I have no problems with the colours from the display, white is definitely white, just the bloody RGBG display that HTC fitted is my only complaint with the screen.
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Oh okay, he was talking about the processors . I thought some software version he was talking about.
Anyway it seems that some units have this yellowish screen issue, I read somewhere one S4 user also had a same issue with his phone's display. I have S3 phone, and same issue.
And what is wrong with RGBG display? I mean what change does this type of display do?
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omer7 said:
Anyway it seems that some units have this yellowish screen issue, I read somewhere one S4 user also had a same issue with his phone's display. I have S3 phone, and same issue.
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I reckon it's just Samsung sending HTC some dodgy displays. Luck of the draw I suppose, the processor plays no part.
omer7 said:
And what is wrong with RGBG display? I mean what change does this type of display do?
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http://www.wikitech.hu/uploads/2012/01/rgb-stripe-vs-rgbg-vs-rgbw-pentile.png < This is a image of digital screen display matrix'. The top one is the conventional display that the large majority of all digital displays use. The bottom two are Samsung's new PenTile displays. The main purpose of them is to save battery (which is why most people were staggered by the battery life of the One S on stock ICS). Basically, you only got 2/3 of a pixel on each pixel, because either red or blue has been sacrificed. The HTC One S has the middle one, the bottom one is used on a couple of Motorolas, the point of that display is to give superior performance in bright light.

Yeah seems processor has nothing to do with yellowish display. Only some units have it and unfortunately my phone is one of them. I do not like the yellowish screen, white looks beautiful.
And thanks for the display info
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omer7 said:
Yeah seems processor has nothing to do with yellowish display. Only some units have it and unfortunately my phone is one of them. I do not like the yellowish screen, white looks beautiful.
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You could purchase a LCD screen made for the HTC Sensation/Sensation XE. Same screen size, same resolution, fits into the slot, and it is a proper RGB display, so you will notice the difference. Your battery life will decrease a little bit though, and obviously, the warranty is void if you open the phone up (although you have probably already made it void by unlocking the bootloader)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HTC-SENSA...K_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item2ebce9c4b1 £19.95 from eBay, although it is debatable whether you would trust something from eBay.

kylepont said:
You could purchase a LCD screen made for the HTC Sensation/Sensation XE. Same screen size, same resolution, fits into the slot, and it is a proper RGB display, so you will notice the difference. Your battery life will decrease a little bit though, and obviously, the warranty is void if you open the phone up (although you have probably already made it void by unlocking the bootloader)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HTC-SENSA...K_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item2ebce9c4b1 £19.95 from eBay, although it is debatable whether you would trust something from eBay.
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Well, instead of changing the display, i would rather prefer a new phone. I recently got this phone (in feb), quite satisfied with its overall performance except the display and some lags in games (esp subway surfer, most others run smoothly) in JB update. But that is okay now. Will use this phone for coming months then i might think of getting a new one. May be nexus 4 or some other phone.
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omer7 said:
Well, instead of changing the display, i would rather prefer a new phone. I recently got this phone (in feb), quite satisfied with its overall performance except the display and some lags in games (esp subway surfer, most others run smoothly) in JB update. But that is okay now. Will use this phone for coming months then i might think of getting a new one. May be nexus 4 or some other phone.
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I would definitely get the HTC One (M7 version). That will be a mighty beast of a phone. However, my Business Studies teacher has the Nexus 4, and he uses it for the projector, and that thing is lightning quick. For the price that it is available at direct from Google play, you definitely cannot go wrong.

kylepont said:
I would definitely get the HTC One (M7 version). That will be a mighty beast of a phone. However, my Business Studies teacher has the Nexus 4, and he uses it for the projector, and that thing is lightning quick. For the price that it is available at direct from Google play, you definitely cannot go wrong.
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Htc one would be expnsive for me. I prefer a mid ranged phone. If SGS III price drops a bit more, i would probably get it.
Nexus 4 isnt officially available in Pakistan, but local dealers have it. But right now it is a bit over priced here in Pakistan. Its price is dropping, and hopefuly will adjust in next few months. In fact one of the jnline shops (in Pakistan) also recommended to wait if u want to get it in good price.
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omer7 said:
Nexus 4 isnt officially available in Pakistan, but local dealers have it. But right now it is a bit over priced here in Pakistan. Its price is dropping, and hopefuly will adjust in next few months. In fact one of the jnline shops (in Pakistan) also recommended to wait if u want to get it in good price.
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If amazon or play.com do deliveries to Pakistan, then I would definitely check both of them if I were you. You won't find many legitimate offers cheaper than on them two websites.

kylepont said:
If amazon or play.com do deliveries to Pakistan, then I would definitely check both of them if I were you. You won't find many legitimate offers cheaper than on them two websites.
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Yeah sure i ll check these two sites. But i dont think amazon delivers to Pakistan, but will check it out.
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HTC one s is in two models and same body. Ones processor is s4 1.5 and others s3 1.7.
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