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What exactly does screen bleeding effect

I just bought a g2x today. Didn't notice the screen bleed until I read about it. Just wondering what this does or the negative effect it has on my phone.
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Yeah. It makes people complain... Other than that I think it's just cosmetic...
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It just might be that my phone doesn't have screen bleeding as severe as other phones, but if I didn't read about it I probably wouldn't have noticed.

Yea that's what I'm thinking. I didn't hear about a single problem with the phone until I got it lol. Idk how bad mine is in relation to others but I don't want to exchange it and get one that's worse
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And is this something that can get progressively worse?
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Mine hasn't got any worse. I didn't notice til I read it on xda. I've had mine since release date and I love mine.
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No it does not affect usability at all. Some have posited that when Gingerbread gets released it will be more noticable on its dark notification bar. Some have also complained that their screen bleed has progressed to "bars" but I've only seen that a few times. I think virtually everyone will tell you it's a non issue.
That said, IMO, it is the lack of a real response that is indicative of the biggest issue of all.That being the lack of real support. People are getting them replaced, but that's it. I just want a phone that works. I have had a lot of issues. Getting a new one every two weeks is no fun. I'm in limbo now. I'm sick of re-entering everything....I really am. I just want a phone that works all the time with full functionality.Just get a new one is fine....but this is stupid.

ickster said:
No it does not affect usability at all. Some have posited that when Gingerbread gets released it will be more noticable on its dark notification bar. Some have also complained that their screen bleed has progressed to "bars" but I've only seen that a few times. I think virtually everyone will tell you it's a non issue.
That said, IMO, it is the lack of a real response that is indicative of the biggest issue of all.That being the lack of real support. People are getting them replaced, but that's it. I just want a phone that works. I have had a lot of issues. Getting a new one every two weeks is no fun. I'm in limbo now. I'm sick of re-entering everything....I really am. I just want a phone that works all the time with full functionality.Just get a new one is fine....but this is stupid.
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So am I lol. Not with G2x but other phones. I am just looking for one that works. I need an international phone. I want one with a ffc to video chat to home. I want to future proof my device and I am doing that with a ffc, 4g, and a dual core processor. Its not an issue for me but I dont want it to become one.

not a thing, just crazy people having to have something to complain about. it really isn't serious at all.

ickster said:
No it does not affect usability at all. Some have posited that when Gingerbread gets released it will be more noticable on its dark notification bar. Some have also complained that their screen bleed has progressed to "bars" but I've only seen that a few times. I think virtually everyone will tell you it's a non issue.
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Im using Cm7 right now and it has a black bar on top and I notice that the side with light bleed looks a little washed out compared to the rest of the bar. You notice it even if its not dark but probably not if the lights are really bright
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the colors on this thing look beautiful and I'm wondering if when gb comes with its black status bar will things start to look a little off.
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The effect is purely cosmetic and is a result of the sort of screen the G2x uses. Most phones use a LED screen, particularly AMOLED and Super AMOLED. The G2x uses an LCD screen, which is what most TVs use.
LCD screens are much, much brighter (my old AMOLED screen's optimum brightness in daylight was 100%, this one is 25%) and displays colors with much more vibrance, but it doesn't handle black very well. Turn on your television in a dark room to an empty channel (like DVD when the dvd player isn't on) and you'll see the same effect.
Personally, I don't mind. In fact, I prefer the LCD: the brightness and color is more than good enough to offset the bleed.
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I'm wondering if when gb comes with its black status bar will things start to look a little off.
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After using the leaked 2.3.3 update, I can tell you that it definitely does look odd, but only when you're in a pitch-black room.

That's what I was worried about. Are you going to keep it? I'm trying to debate if I will or not. I do not really want the sensation
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Question about the screen S4G

Good day fellas,
I'm seeing a lot of video and comments on screen comparisons between Htc sensation 4G and Gs 2 and on.
My question is, I'm currently on SG 1 looking to upgrade to either sensation 4G or GS2, I'm concerned about the screen quality, I'm debating wether I should order the phone or not. I can get it at a very low price (employee pricing).
The phone has a higher res. Screen, I'm trying to convince myself that the difference in screen quality is not that big, but I would like you guys to tell me what you think from your experiences, is the GS2 worth the extra $, is the screen really that much better than the S4G, anything else from your point of view that should be considered???
Thanks in advance,
Rodi
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I bought a sensation, and quite frankly, it is the best phone I have ever had. It is pretty well built, and feels awesome to hold.
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The_Green_Android_Robot said:
I bought a sensation, and quite frankly, it is the best phone I have ever had. It is pretty well built, and feels awesome to hold.
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No screen washout for me, as well.

Also something to add, in almost all the videos comparisons, when looking at the phones side by side the sensation looks practically white in comparison to the gs2. My only concern with the phone is the screen.
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I personally got a Sensation while my GF has a GS2, you can clearly see that both screens aren't the same: one is SLCD & the other is AMOLED.
The GS2 has saturated, neon-ish colors which at some times seem a bit too much, it is particularly notable in the android market: the green is VERY saturated. When put side by side it can make the Sensation seem very washed out.
I have also read on wikipedia that AMOLED displays have a shorter life compared to SLCD because of the organic components in it. The varied lifespan of the organic dyes can cause a discrepancy between red, green, and blue intensity. This leads to image persistence, also known as burn-in.
After a few weeks of use I've got used to my phone and am truly happy about my display, even though it isn't as saturated as the GS2 it still is a great LCD display with rich colors, clear whites & deep blacks and my movies look crystal sharp on it. Also the extra resolution is very much appreciated and is quite notable when I compare it to my GF's GS2, specially in the menus, mails & internet browser - the pixels aren't noticeable.
What I can tell you is that I was faced with the same choice as you: HTC Sensation or SGS2 and the display was also the most important thing for me since it's the way you interact with your phone. And i'm glad I chose the Sensation

Cool thanks for the info, I just ordered it from my work
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[Q] LCD Ghosting?

Hi all, I moved form galaxy s to sensation and been wondering about screen ghosting. Is every sensation have this ghosting when circle through the screen and scrolling? This is not happen in galaxy s at all. Sensation is great (fast, stable, love sense 3.0) but this bug me a little.

I have this issue. Its really annoying, some users call it tearing..dont know proper word. It can be clearly seen when scrolling white text on black background. Black text on white background is not so bad but overall screen is low quality by my opinion. Terrible viewing angles also. My old desire has alslo slcd but its much better quality. Another issue can be seen when browsing xda forums trough browser..when scrolling whole screen is changing colors, blinking slightly..Will wait for new nexus and then I will sell it..
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Its called screen tearing yes, the pixel response time from a color change or screen movement causes this effect. The sensation has different screens but from my observation all have the ghosting effect, but its only noticeable with black pixel change, some colors can be harder to change rapidly against other colors and it seems to be the case with the sensation screen.

hmm ... I've been using my sensation for 3 months now, ... never had screen tearing. Maybe you can ask for a replacement?

Shu. said:
hmm ... I've been using my sensation for 3 months now, ... never had screen tearing. Maybe you can ask for a replacement?
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Seriously u don't have that problem? even when scrolling in setting like scroll slowly (the white text is blur)? confirm this pls and i'll go exchange it tomorrow.

ingnarn said:
Seriously u don't have that problem? even when scrolling in setting like scroll slowly (the white text is blur)? confirm this pls and i'll go exchange it tomorrow.
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I certainly do not have this problem. Even when scrolling a white text on a black background (like in settings), the text is still very sharp and clear
AFAIK, Sensations' LCDs are manufactured by few different companies.
There are "good batch" and "poor batch" sensations, similar to any other htc's smartphones (eg: HD7)
I have read about few people having this problem in this forum. Try getting a replacement, Hopefully, that one wont be having this issue anymore

I have used 6 Sensations. Four of them had this problem and all four displays were the one made by Acer. It was very noticeable in the settings menu. The two Sharp panels my wife and I have do not do this.
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Is this definitely hardware issue? Not a smallest chance it can be fixed with some update? anyway htc sucks producing "good" and "bad" batches..
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pete777 said:
Is this definitely hardware issue? Not a smallest chance it can be fixed with some update? anyway htc sucks producing "good" and "bad" batches..
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It's hardware. not really an "Issue" .... just lower quality displays compared to other ones.

Shu. said:
It's hardware. not really an "Issue" .... just lower quality displays compared to other ones.
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Its sad that htc is using lower quality displays in theirs flagship..
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jrwingate6 said:
I have used 6 Sensations. Four of them had this problem and all four displays were the one made by Acer. It was very noticeable in the settings menu. The two Sharp panels my wife and I have do not do this.
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My Sharp panel has this problem. Just pointing this out so that people won't think getting a Sharp screen will automatically solve the issue.

The Janitor Mop said:
My Sharp panel has this problem. Just pointing this out so that people won't think getting a Sharp screen will automatically solve the issue.
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Every screen does to certain extent even my iPad ips panel has some ghosting. The acer panel on the sensation definitely shows it more than the sharp though
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aim1126 said:
Every screen does to certain extent even my iPad ips panel has some ghosting. The acer panel on the sensation definitely shows it more than the sharp though
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never got that in sgs which is last year model. that's y i am a bit annoyed as i upgrade not downgrade.

my cousin's sensation has this ghosting its really bad, the screen response time is very low anything higher then 30FPS will revel bad ghosting
my desire Hd has very slight ghosting
my old classic desire SLCD/Amoled screen had non of this
sensation XL has an amazing IPS screen with very high response time
so i dont know, lets hope HTC learned how bad this is, ICS is 60fps GPU accelerated UI, low response screens are not welcome
hard to believe we are discussing LCD response times in this time and age, i wanted to buy my cousin's sensation but now i stopped
oh and by the way the HD2 4.3" have non of the ghosting or pattern issues what the hell?!

Shu. said:
It's hardware. not really an "Issue" .... just lower quality displays compared to other ones.
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This... just took apart a defective LCD I got from China. It's an Acer brand unit that looks fuzzy as if there's a film on the screen.
I had a Sensation when they first came out (Sharp screen) and knew I had a new faulty LCD the minute I turned this one on. Needless to say is going back and I'm in the hunt for a Sharp unit. Not worried about dust as I'm going seal it up real good when i finish the repair
Lol I've opened this phone up so many times in the last couple days i can swap screens perfectly in less than 20 mins from start to finish

Yes i can agree i have never had this problem either

New to the Sensation, question about display.

Hi guys,
I've recently picked up a Sensation, and I can't help but notice how "odd" the screen looks in comparison to my Incredible S. I've read in reviews that it is a bit disappointing in terms of viewing angles and such, and that's true. It also looks as if there are faint scan lines running across it (like a monitor that has an incorrect refresh rate) and the gamma is less intense.
Is this just how the Sensation's screen is or does mine have some issue? I may simply be really used to the Incredible S display.
I'm loving the phone otherwise.
Thanks!

My screen suffers from yellowing at more than 30° or so, but no scan lines like you mentioned. I know there was a lot of discussion about the screen when they first came out and 2 or 3 different screens were used for the displays. I have a sharp screen on mine for reference.
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I also have a " sharp" screen on mine. No lines at all. If it bothers much perhaps exchange it for one without lines. (i don't think they are supposed to be their anyway) as for contrast my daughter just got a s3 and our screen compared to the s3 screen is very poor in my opinion. Our colors seem washed out and light compared to her vivid bright screen . But I'm not really complaining I don't seem to notice unless I do a side by side comparison. If I were you I would take back the device for one without lines! Problem could worsen in the future and I know not every sensation has them. Mine doesn't . Best wishes to you .
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biomech91 said:
Hi guys,
I've recently picked up a Sensation, and I can't help but notice how "odd" the screen looks in comparison to my Incredible S. I've read in reviews that it is a bit disappointing in terms of viewing angles and such, and that's true. It also looks as if there are faint scan lines running across it (like a monitor that has an incorrect refresh rate) and the gamma is way too intense.
Is this just how the Sensation's screen is or does mine have some issue? I may simply be really used to the Incredible S display.
I'm loving the phone otherwise.
Thanks!
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I haven't used the Incredible S before, but a quick search reveals it has a 800x400 16M color S-LCD screen, the same tech in the Sensation's screen (except the higher resolution).
You're saying gamma is more intense than Incredible S, if this is the case then the Sensation may be calibrated with more vividly than the Incredible S. Does your Sensation screen have colours similar to AMOLED screens? How does the white balance look? I find my Sensation screen to be much more neutral than the typically over saturated AMOLED screens (which is how S-LCD should look like, factory default). White balance looks great too on my Sensation, pretty close to 6500K.
I've never seen scan lines on my Sensation, this is most likely the biggest clue you've given that your screen may have defects. Would be much more easier for everyone if you can post a picture of your actual Sensation screen on.

I've got an AUO screen myself. Is it possible my eyes are adjusting to it? I'll give a week and see how it goes.
It's a shame about the washed out colours, but it could be worse.
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I haven't used the Incredible S before, but a quick search reveals it has a 800x400 16M color S-LCD screen, the same tech in the Sensation's screen (except the higher resolution).
You're saying gamma is more intense than Incredible S, if this is the case then the Sensation may be calibrated with more vividly than the Incredible S. Does your Sensation screen have colours similar to AMOLED screens? How does the white balance look? I find my Sensation screen to be much more neutral than the typically over saturated AMOLED screens (which is how S-LCD should look like, factory default). White balance looks great too on my Sensation, pretty close to 6500K.
I've never seen scan lines on my Sensation, this is most likely the biggest clue you've given that your screen may have defects. Would be much more easier for everyone if you can post a picture of your actual Sensation screen on.
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My mistake, I meant to say the gamma was less intense. It seems very washed out and less saturated than my Incredible S. The blacks and whites are better though.

My only problem with the screen is that the blacks aren't black enough. Well.. I suppose that's true to all colors.. as you guys said..they're a little bit washed out.
Beside that..no scan lines and the viewing angles never disappointed me.

The scan lines-not normal.
Being washed out, highly reflective, blacks that aren't black enough, maximum brightness that isn't very good for outdoor use, and the like-normal.

biomech91 said:
I've got an AUO screen myself. Is it possible my eyes are adjusting to it? I'll give a week and see how it goes.
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I had another Sensation with an AUO screen and found it sort of unpleasant to look at. I think it was something to do with the way the pixels were arranged, made the text look fuzzy. I also remember the screen having more of a pink/purple hue compared side by side with the Sharp screen, but I don't remember seeing any sort of scan lines.
If you just bought it from a retail outlet, I would see if you could get an exchange. If not, I guess its up to whether you want to deal with exchanging it with HTC (it should still be under their 2 year warranty), or deal with the screen as is.

Louer Adun said:
I had another Sensation with an AUO screen and found it sort of unpleasant to look at. I think it was something to do with the way the pixels were arranged, made the text look fuzzy. I also remember the screen having more of a pink/purple hue compared side by side with the Sharp screen, but I don't remember seeing any sort of scan lines.
If you just bought it from a retail outlet, I would see if you could get an exchange. If not, I guess its up to whether you want to deal with exchanging it with HTC (it should still be under their 2 year warranty), or deal with the screen as is.
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Is the warranty two years? The little slip inside the box says 12 months, which would mean this phone is out of warranty by now. (I got it from someone who upgraded their phone)

I've taken a picture of the scanlines here.
Ignoring the vertical lines that both phones have at this zoom, you can see the Sensation has faint horizontal lines running across it while the Incredible S doesn't. Not sure if that's just how the display quality is on the Sensation.
Make sure you zoom into the full size image to see.
EDIT: Sorry for double posting, I didn't realize.

Last time I spoke with HTC customer service was to get a replacement mainboard for my wife's HTC Vision/G2. When I was on the phone I inquired about my HTC Sensation warranty, as I was surprised that the G2 was even under warranty still (G2 had a 15 month warranty I believe). If I recall correctly the warranty period they told me was for two years. I was thrilled to hear it, as I was under the assumption pretty much all phone warranties were for 1 year. Give HTC a call and see what their terms are, you may be pleasantly surprised.
Also, I have some pics that I took a while back that have the Sharp screen side by side with the AUO screen, but I haven't yet located them. When/If I do, I will post them for your reference.
Edit: I am using the T-Mobile HTC Sensation 4G, not sure if this has an influence on the warranty terms, but it could (different SKU compared to European version).

Need new phone, One S ?

I currently got the HTC Desire HD and kinda love it. But it starts to get too slow, battery gets worse and so I thought about getting a new phone.
The HTC One S looks nice, perfect size, good performance, good camera and due to the AMOLED it looks like the battery last long enough as well.
But how does the AMOLED display quality look like compared to e.g. my Desire HD ? How abour reading from the display at sunny days?
Thanks

Get it you won't be sorry. Screen is a thing of beauty.
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I got it recently, chose it over OneX and S3 because of its size, and couldn't be happier with it. You won't be sorry if you get One S. Search similar threads for more info.

Make sure HTC sells the s4 version of the phone your country.
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Make sure HTC sells the s4 version of the phone your country.
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Ye I would get the S4. I am just curios about the AMOLED quality compared to other phones. Besides that it should be perfect for me

TBH I love my AMOLED. Colors are nice and sharp and its barely pixelated.

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TBH I love my AMOLED. Colors are nice and sharp and its barely pixelated.
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TBH to me it was straight out pixalated, I have an S3 & Amaze and no noticeable pixels anywhere. just my opinion
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The display is great and one thing, which definitely deserves more praise rather than just being slated by a number of people and review sites. Sure the screen isn't as good in terms of sharpness and screen real estate compared to the GS 3, one X, GN and SE phones due to the 720P res. but the colours of it are superb and IMO better than the GN (too dull), GS 2 (too over saturated), SE phones (personally not really keen on their displays when it comes to the colours) and also the GS 3 screen, but the best thing about the one S screen is just how good it performs when in sunlight (as in sun shining right on the screen), I can see stuff (even on black backgrounds) without even having to squint my eyes (and that isn't even with 100% brightness, only like 70% brightness selected) where as with the GS 2 etc. I always have to cover it slightly with my hand in order to make a text or website etc. out. And with my S, there is no yellow/blue tints at all, no matter what brightness I put the mobile to, whites are extremely bright white (better than my dell U2311H), this will vary from unit to unit though.
IMO the desire HD has one of the worst displays ever, colours are extremely washed out, viewing angles are non existent, and it isn't that sharp either.
I do notice the pentile matrix, however, I only notice it when I have my face right up to the screen or am really concentrating on trying to spot the effects of it. The most noticeable areas I notice it are on the notification icons and white/grey text on black backgrounds.
From one of the best sites when it comes to hardware stuff and so knows what they are talking about:
I’ve griped about PenTile RGBG before on this panel and other SAMOLED displays, but I find the One S to be completely enjoyable in spite of having it thanks to two things. First, how well HTC has controlled the panel (no awful hues, weird white points, or dramatic shifts as you change brightness) - this is basically the best I’ve seen this particular panel, and until SGS3, the best I’ve seen AMOLED in general. Second, because HTC doesn’t appear to be applying any processing that applies sharpening (like Samsung’s mDNIe) to text.
How you feel about PenTile really is the final factor: it’s there, but I’ve slowly become accustomed to it after staring at it for so long. If you go back to the Nexus S days, I was one of the most outspoken critics because of how large those subpixels were. With small enough subpixels (below visual acuity), PenTile starts to make sense. In other news, HTC moving back to Samsung AMOLED for phones is an interesting move after supply issues forced HTC to SLCD with some earlier phones, here on the HTC One S however, it looks great.
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/6
Although as always, you should check out for yourself first to see what you think.

Imo, I would get the OneS if I were you.
I also came from the DHD, an moved forward after the no update fiasco.
I am on pre-pay and did not want to sign a contract again, actually ever but that's another issue, so I shopped around for the OneS on sell in different places. I could not swing full retail so I looked for NIB phones that are turned over fast.
Well long story short is, I looked and looked for a slightly used phone and never scored one sadly, I would up grabbing a OneX NIB for under 400 and couldn't say no to that price.
However I still like an want a OneS, nice form factor coming from the DHD and really is a sharp looking phone.
Would I suggest one to my friends, in a heartbeat.
Get yourself a OneS an rock on.
WR
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rul3z said:
I got it recently, chose it over OneX and S3 because of its size, and couldn't be happier with it. You won't be sorry if you get One S. Search similar threads for more info.
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Same here. One X is so awesome big Take One S S4 - great phone. But remember using a case when you order the black version, cause after some time the color in the edges turns silver...