I just bought a g2x today. Didn't notice the screen bleed until I read about it. Just wondering what this does or the negative effect it has on my phone.
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Yeah. It makes people complain... Other than that I think it's just cosmetic...
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It just might be that my phone doesn't have screen bleeding as severe as other phones, but if I didn't read about it I probably wouldn't have noticed.
Yea that's what I'm thinking. I didn't hear about a single problem with the phone until I got it lol. Idk how bad mine is in relation to others but I don't want to exchange it and get one that's worse
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And is this something that can get progressively worse?
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Mine hasn't got any worse. I didn't notice til I read it on xda. I've had mine since release date and I love mine.
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No it does not affect usability at all. Some have posited that when Gingerbread gets released it will be more noticable on its dark notification bar. Some have also complained that their screen bleed has progressed to "bars" but I've only seen that a few times. I think virtually everyone will tell you it's a non issue.
That said, IMO, it is the lack of a real response that is indicative of the biggest issue of all.That being the lack of real support. People are getting them replaced, but that's it. I just want a phone that works. I have had a lot of issues. Getting a new one every two weeks is no fun. I'm in limbo now. I'm sick of re-entering everything....I really am. I just want a phone that works all the time with full functionality.Just get a new one is fine....but this is stupid.
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No it does not affect usability at all. Some have posited that when Gingerbread gets released it will be more noticable on its dark notification bar. Some have also complained that their screen bleed has progressed to "bars" but I've only seen that a few times. I think virtually everyone will tell you it's a non issue.
That said, IMO, it is the lack of a real response that is indicative of the biggest issue of all.That being the lack of real support. People are getting them replaced, but that's it. I just want a phone that works. I have had a lot of issues. Getting a new one every two weeks is no fun. I'm in limbo now. I'm sick of re-entering everything....I really am. I just want a phone that works all the time with full functionality.Just get a new one is fine....but this is stupid.
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So am I lol. Not with G2x but other phones. I am just looking for one that works. I need an international phone. I want one with a ffc to video chat to home. I want to future proof my device and I am doing that with a ffc, 4g, and a dual core processor. Its not an issue for me but I dont want it to become one.
not a thing, just crazy people having to have something to complain about. it really isn't serious at all.
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No it does not affect usability at all. Some have posited that when Gingerbread gets released it will be more noticable on its dark notification bar. Some have also complained that their screen bleed has progressed to "bars" but I've only seen that a few times. I think virtually everyone will tell you it's a non issue.
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Im using Cm7 right now and it has a black bar on top and I notice that the side with light bleed looks a little washed out compared to the rest of the bar. You notice it even if its not dark but probably not if the lights are really bright
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the colors on this thing look beautiful and I'm wondering if when gb comes with its black status bar will things start to look a little off.
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The effect is purely cosmetic and is a result of the sort of screen the G2x uses. Most phones use a LED screen, particularly AMOLED and Super AMOLED. The G2x uses an LCD screen, which is what most TVs use.
LCD screens are much, much brighter (my old AMOLED screen's optimum brightness in daylight was 100%, this one is 25%) and displays colors with much more vibrance, but it doesn't handle black very well. Turn on your television in a dark room to an empty channel (like DVD when the dvd player isn't on) and you'll see the same effect.
Personally, I don't mind. In fact, I prefer the LCD: the brightness and color is more than good enough to offset the bleed.
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I'm wondering if when gb comes with its black status bar will things start to look a little off.
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After using the leaked 2.3.3 update, I can tell you that it definitely does look odd, but only when you're in a pitch-black room.
That's what I was worried about. Are you going to keep it? I'm trying to debate if I will or not. I do not really want the sensation
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Currently have a Nexus S and I just ordered a G2X, if someone has compared them both. What do you think? Is the G2X a upgrade to the Nexus S? I'm in a good place because I can always hand down whatever device I don't want to keep or return the G2X for the Sensation. What are your opinions on the G2X hardware wise? The G2X will probably be stock for like 5 min. as I plan on putting whatever rom is hot atm. Please help I'm torn between the two lol.
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There are lots of NS owners and they say the screen is brighter and more detailed.... and much much faster.
Coming from the Nexus line, it flashes and everything the same way. No using special software to flash or anything. Just root, download Rom Manager, and flash.
The Sensation has an encrypted locked bootloader so chances of it having custom roms is slim-to-none.
Plus Tegra 2 dual-core is faster. HDMI out is fun. You'll like it.
Yep.
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I come from the Galaxy S 4G and I really like this phone.
Nexus S and Galaxy S 4G were similar phones so my answer is no, you will not be dissapointed with the G2x.
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I was about to pick up a G2X recently. I talked to a person in the store returning their G2X which had horrid back light bleeding. I'm learning that this issue is inherent to this models screen to varying degrees depending on your luck. The screenshots I've seen being sent to LG support don't look good either. Whats the consensus here?
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I was about to pick up a G2X recently. I talked to a person in the store returning their G2X which had horrid back light bleeding. I'm learning that this issue is inherent to this models screen to varying degrees depending on your luck. The screenshots I've seen being sent to LG support don't look good either. Whats the consensus here?
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A bunch of nit picken cry babies. It is never noticeable. I watch movies in the dark. Still not bad.
But whatever.
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A bunch of nit picken cry babies. It is never noticeable. I watch movies in the dark. Still not bad.
But whatever.
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this is more how i feel as well...
while it is an issue, some phones are worse than others for sure... My phone has what I would consider average bleeding for an LCD screen, i have a bit of bleed in the upper left corner and a smaller bit on the lower left... at 100% brightness on total black they are both noticeable but not like rays of sun protruding out the sides... on 50% you can see them if you are looking for them and lowest brightness they are totally unnoticeable...
now, i watch movies at night all the time and i keep my brightness settings on automatic so when i watch my movies that have dark edges and such the brightness is typically very low thus the bleeding goes unnoticed... never have i needed to watch a movie with max brightness in the dark, the only time i would noticeably see the bleeding... if i do max brightness during the day while watching something then i still dont notice the bleeding cuz the natural daylight blends it out...
point being, there are very few scenarios where you will even come in contact with the bleeding if its not so bad that your whole screen is turning yellow, which i have seen lol
its all a matter of what you can tolerate in the end...
Yes. It's a great phone, even with the old software, and when the tasty gingerbread update drops it will be better.
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A bunch of nit picken cry babies. It is never noticeable. I watch movies in the dark. Still not bad.
But whatever.
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Agreed, though I am on my 2nd G2x. No issues at all. Minimal bleed in the top left and right corners, but not really noticeable except on the splash screen, boot animation, and power-off animation. I had an EVO for almost a year, and it had the same issue. Never noticed it with normal usage, even rockin' a gingerbread rom w/ the black status bar.
My first looked like the screens in this thread: http://www.lgforum.com/forum/boards/carriers/t-mobile/topics/g2x-screen-separating-from-body
Clearly defective, so I sent it back and got a new one. Very satisfied now.
Thanks for the opinions of the backlight bleed guys. I'm just worried coming from a SAMOLED screen on the Vibrant, that I would be very disappointed. I'll give it more consideration.
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Thanks for the opinions of the backlight bleed guys. I'm just worried coming from a SAMOLED screen on the Vibrant, that I would be very disappointed. I'll give it more consideration.
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I came from an AMOLED on a Nexus 1 and while it was not a SAMOLED i still think i prefer the LCD over LED given the current tech... the pentile matrix of LED drove me nuts, everything looked grainy to me regardless of the vibrant colors and deep blacks... LCD looks sharper and more natural... I have great eyesight so I am nitpicky about quality and clarity on my screen
I came from the vibrant also and I wonder what everyone was on about. While I like the colors of the vibrant, the g2x still looks bea-utiful! Lcd screen bleed isnt so bad. specially with the lights on.
Unlike a ugly chick you dont have to turn out the lights to use it!
So I've not been in LCD land for a while, but decided to indulge in a Sensation as my N1 was just becoming too old for my taste.
I miss the deep blacks and extreme viewing angles. But this screen isn't so bad.
One question though. I notice that while scrolling the text seems to kind off flicker. Like its struggling to keep up with the pixel refresh.
Is this normal?
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Hmm happens with just about any moving element on the screen.
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Figured out what it was. Different screens.
PANEL_ID_PYD_AUO_NT
That screen has the grain and the text motion blur/fuzz issue.
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Same problem here, I'm not sure what to do. I would like to not have the flicker, but besides that issue, my phone is perfect. And, I've heard the Sharp display is definitely not without its issues.
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Same problem here, I'm not sure what to do. I would like to not have the flicker, but besides that issue, my phone is perfect. And, I've heard the Sharp display is definitely not without its issues.
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I'm planning to exchange mine. Held the two side by side and I like the sharp one better. Doesn't bother the eyes as much. What other problems have you heard about the sharp display?
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I've just heard about it having really poor contrast. Which is a big issue to me, because the SLCD already has poor contrast. Besides the flicker, the AUO looks excellent to me. I guess I'll see how annoying it gets. Stupid HTC. How can it take them this long to release an unlocking OTA? Jeez.
I believe this visual effect is more obvious on sensation because of higher resolution. Both screens have it, sharp and aou. Also, other screens on previous devices had it, but since resoluyion was lower and letters appeared bigger you didn't notice it. Just my 2c.
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I believe this visual effect is more obvious on sensation because of higher resolution. Both screens have it, sharp and aou. Also, other screens on previous devices had it, but since resoluyion was lower and letters appeared bigger you didn't notice it. Just my 2c.
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The last LCD phone I used was the G1... and yah you're right, it was there too, just had nothing better to compare it with to notice it at the time.
But since I'm coming from an N1, its kinda like.... whoaaaa whatdafuchhhhh?
Shellshock.
Running Sloth said:
But since I'm coming from an N1, its kinda like.... whoaaaa whatdafuchhhhh?
Shellshock.
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My initial reaction coming from Desire SLCD was exactly the same.
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So I've not been in LCD land for a while, but decided to indulge in a Sensation as my N1 was just becoming too old for my taste.
I miss the deep blacks and extreme viewing angles. But this screen isn't so bad.
One question though. I notice that while scrolling the text seems to kind off flicker. Like its struggling to keep up with the pixel refresh.
Is this normal?
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This is not normal, several User's have found that they have different LCD types
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131592
And having one might affect the text when scrolling. Although not confirmed, this could also be a simple software issue. When we gain root access, trying a new ROM could help because HTC Sense is still not polished and there are bugs that can affect these types of problems.
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This is not normal, several User's have found that they have different LCD types
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131592
And having one might affect the text when scrolling. Although not confirmed, this could also be a simple software issue. When we gain root access, trying a new ROM could help because HTC Sense is still not polished and there are bugs that can affect these types of problems.
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True, was reading up on that thread after I wrote on this one. I tried both panels side by side at a TMO store and found that it is the screen that causes the issue.
Its not as pronounced on the Sharp Panel, lot better, vs the one I have.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYH4Y4zo4cM
Here is a video of the flicker. For the record.
there is probably another thread about the same stuff but i just gotta say it i just got the LG G2x last friday all i can say is wow i love this phone super fast far more faster then my epic 4g and evo 4g im in love with my phone its awesome
Congrats! Welcome to the forums.
Welcome man, you'll love this phone specially if you are like me, lucky one with no reboots and screen bleed.
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Congrats! Welcome to the forums.
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thx cant wait to see more roms
i wish i new how to port roms make etc etc.... lol
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Welcome man, you'll love this phone specially if you are like me, lucky one with no reboots and screen bleed.
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i dont get no reboots or screen bleeding whats so ever
Welcome dude glad you're liking it. Lemme know if you have any questions ill try and help as best I can.
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i dont get no reboots or screen bleeding whats so ever
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there are some people here claiming that tmobile should be receiving new units that supposedly has no screen bleed...hopefully they are right and i can go exchange my unit for one without screen bleed.
What is a screen bleed, and how do you know if your screen has it? I can't see any problem on mine. Does it only occur when you have certain wallpaper?
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What is a screen bleed, and how do you know if your screen has it? I can't see any problem on mine. Does it only occur when you have certain wallpaper?
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I would like to hear the answer to this too, what does screen bleed look like? I've tried pure black and pure white wallpaper looking for whatever you guys are talking about.
Sometimes I wonder if I'm the only person who has a near-perfect G2X that doesn't misbehave in all the ways people here talk about. The only way I can get my phone to spontaneously boot or any other signs of instability is to overclock to 1500 and run Mandrobench five times in a row, by which time it is red hot. If good G2X's are so hard to come by maybe I should auction mine off.
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I would like to hear the answer to this too, what does screen bleed look like? I've tried pure black and pure white wallpaper looking for whatever you guys are talking about.
Sometimes I wonder if I'm the only person who has a near-perfect G2X that doesn't misbehave in all the ways people here talk about. The only way I can get my phone to spontaneously boot or any other signs of instability is to overclock to 1500 and run Mandrobench five times in a row, by which time it is red hot. If good G2X's are so hard to come by maybe I should auction mine off.
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Go into a room with all the lights off. Start up a video or something in which the background is all black (and pause before it starts playing). The screen bleed will appear at the top left or right corners of the device. If your screen does bleed you will be able to see some light penetrate through lighting up the top corners. If you do have it you can't miss it as it quite pronounced.
When you have a all black wallpaper look into all the corners of your screen (usually top right and left corners) if you have back bleed you will notice where the light bleeds out onto the black wallpaper. It doesn't effect me to much because I don't use dark wallpapers I like to show off my colors and nice screen but hopefully your unit doesn't have this issue enjoy
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I just got a G2X yesterday and it has backlight arterial flow. It's not obvious looking head on but it doesn't take much of an angle to see light peeking around the edges. I've heard this is a "known issue" but would anyone else return their phone for a replacement? How likely is it that I'll have the same problem with the next one? I've had the vibrant since release and I've gotten used to the contrast and color of the amoled screen but I don't think I'm just being spoiled. For $500 I feel light bleed should not be an issue. Black uniformity? Ehhhh not quite as much but still... Anyone care to comment?
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I just got a G2X yesterday and it has backlight arterial flow. It's not obvious looking head on but it doesn't take much of an angle to see light peeking around the edges. I've heard this is a "known issue" but would anyone else return their phone for a replacement? How likely is it that I'll have the same problem with the next one? I've had the vibrant since release and I've gotten used to the contrast and color of the amoled screen but I don't think I'm just being spoiled. For $500 I feel light bleed should not be an issue. Black uniformity? Ehhhh not quite as much but still... Anyone care to comment?
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It is very likely you would get another phone with same issue.
LG uses a screen texhnology that has that bleed.
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I just got a G2X yesterday and it has backlight arterial flow. It's not obvious looking head on but it doesn't take much of an angle to see light peeking around the edges. I've heard this is a "known issue" but would anyone else return their phone for a replacement? How likely is it that I'll have the same problem with the next one? I've had the vibrant since release and I've gotten used to the contrast and color of the amoled screen but I don't think I'm just being spoiled. For $500 I feel light bleed should not be an issue. Black uniformity? Ehhhh not quite as much but still... Anyone care to comment?
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Youre new around these parts aren't ya? Lol
Its a very well know issue. Look around this forum and you'll find countless references to it. It comes down to what is acceptable for you? Some people have returned and exchanged multiple times to correct it. For me, its barely noticeable and only on a black screen in a dark room so it doesn't bother me.
Look around the forum and then judge for yourself if you can live with the problem.
I'll probably try a return and if it happens again, I'll just deal and think about an upgrade later on. Like I said I'm used to the samsung screens so this problem is all new to me. Overall the build of the phone feels sturdier than the vibrant. I also like that web browsing is much smoother.
I can deal with that. I don't want reboots and a over heating phone. The screen problems are minimal on my phone.
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I can deal with that. I don't want reboots and a over heating phone. The screen problems are minimal on my phone.
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Have you done a complete hard reset/restore of the phone? Factory data reset?
It significantly cooled down my phone after doing it. Never had a reboot on the phone afterwards, but prior to that I only had one reboot, so I don't think I had a problem
I had installed a bunch of task killer/ battery saver apps on the phone, and the combo screwed things up software wise.....have not touched any task killers since.
I try that when I get a my new memory card.
Thanks.
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If mininmal light bleed is your only problem just keep it. Most likely the replacement will also have it. Even with light bleed the screen looked better than the sensations...
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I heard that oled screens deteriorate over time and the pixels becomes dull. Has anyone had this happen to their sgs4g?
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Mine's pretty bad. Not only do I have screen burn-in where the top notification bar is, but whenever I'm on certain games or applications that display a solid color, I see a bunch of burnt-in horizontal lines. Thankfully, these are the only times I notice it. My screen is fine 95% of the time otherwise.
Despite these long-term problems, I absolutely love OLED screens, and the benefits definitely outweigh the tradeoffs. Comparing my SGS4G to my Nexus 7's IPS screen, the quality of the SGS4G's screen is just so much better.
My screen is still good but I have noticed a slight difference in the crispness of the screen
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i'd have to agree with falcons2.
I have no damaged pixels or weird damage "yet", but it may have gotten a bit fuzzier. Actually since Gingerbread leaks KF1, it started going down a bit. Maybe there's an issue within GB kernel source. Well, we can ask bhundven, because I now he is bootable on an aries based AOSP kernel without Sammy-tmo code in it.
I have no proof but maybe download mode flashing reduces crispness. Also, colors are a bit less saturated. But compared to iphone 4s new screens, it is much much better.
also @op, did you read this from wikipedia?
We have super amoled not just oled.
Also, it says OLED consumes more battery then LCDs displaying colors other than black.
In fact it is the opposite. OLED save battery compared to LCD because displaying all colors is about the same power consumption.
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i'd have to agree with falcons2.
I have no damaged pixels or weird damage "yet", but it may have gotten a bit fuzzier. Actually since Gingerbread leaks KF1, it started going down a bit. Maybe there's an issue within GB kernel source. Well, we can ask bhundven, because I now he is bootable on an aries based AOSP kernel without Sammy-tmo code in it.
I have no proof but maybe download mode flashing reduces crispness. Also, colors are a bit less saturated. But compared to iphone 4s new screens, it is much much better.
also @op, did you read this from wikipedia?
We have super amoled not just oled.
Also, it says OLED consumes more battery then LCDs displaying colors other than black.
In fact it is the opposite. OLED save battery compared to LCD because displaying all colors is about the same power consumption.
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What's the difference between oled and super oled? And yeah, I love that the screen can produce true black unlike LCD its great for watching videos.
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My screen has looked the same since the first time I turned it on.
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i had a guy try stealing my sgs4g. I ran after him he dropped it in the street got ran over. I ordered new screen (so expensive) and fixed it. Then 2 weeks ago i dropped phone cracked screen. Another 160 bucks. But the screen i got this time says telus on the top instead of tmobile. Same screen dunno why its different with that tho. I think its great tho. No blurriness
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