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[Q] Has it been long enough?

With all the haters of either TMO or G2X I wanted to start another kind of thread to ask the question of. Has it been long enough to for TMO to refresh their G2X's so I can walk into a store or amazon and get my G2X back. I loved the crap out of that phone and the only issue had was the bleed screen. How can one tell when was the manufacturing date?

I doubt it.
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jsauce75 said:
i doubt it.
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blast it all!!!

Manufacture date is on the sticker on the box.
also no, I dont think so if screen bleed is your issue. I just got one yesterday, it has a little bleed (screen bleed was never a issue for me, I dont care). It has a 4/24 date on the sticker... So Id say wait a while longer...
as far as reboots. Ive never had one. I personally think its a app the cpu dont like or something. And look at almost any other phone forum. Theres always complaints about reboots. so meh..

smashpunks said:
Manufacture date is on the sticker on the box.
also no, I dont think so if screen bleed is your issue. I just got one yesterday, it has a little bleed (screen bleed was never a issue for me, I dont care). It has a 4/24 date on the sticker... So Id say wait a while longer...
as far as reboots. Ive never had one. I personally think its a app the cpu dont like or something. And look at almost any other phone forum. Theres always complaints about reboots. so meh..
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Is the sticker on the outside of the box so if I were to call TMO up and say whats the manufacturing date of your g2x's the rep could tell me?

wondercoolguy said:
Is the sticker on the outside of the box so if I were to call TMO up and say whats the manufacturing date of your g2x's the rep could tell me?
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yes its a big sticker on the back with the date right at the bottom of it..

smashpunks said:
yes its a big sticker on the back with the date right at the bottom of it..
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Thank you for the info!

smashpunks said:
as far as reboots. Ive never had one. I personally think its a app the cpu dont like or something. And look at almost any other phone forum. Theres always complaints about reboots. so meh..
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I can assure you that the reboot/lockup issue is real and not due to a specific app. I was getting these before I installed a single thing. In fact, the reboot issue has been confirmed by LG themselves, so I wouldn't dismiss it so quickly.
The screen bleed, on the other hand, I fully agree. My unit has screen bleed, but it's really not a big deal. I never see it during regular usage (and it's worse than many others I've seen on here).

I am having screen bleed in two corners, but honestly it doesn't bother me. nearly a week since I bought this phone, not even one reboot.this phone is rock solid and super fast.
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My 14 days are up tomorrow... and I'm keeping my G2x.
I have light bleed on the top two corners and a little along the right side. It is noticeable but what the heck, nothing is perfect. I think coming from a Nexus One with it's inky blacks spoiled me a little, though I must say I would not put up with this level of bleed (clouding as it's called) on a new TV.
The rest of my experience has been trouble free, no reboots or any other issues. Wifi calling works great, the phone is fast as hell and the feel in hand is rock solid. Give this phone a top tier screen and it's the best phone ever made fer sure.
Oh, and I've never had any problems with T-Mobile service, either in Denver on my WinMo Wing or in the Seattle area on a series of Android devices. I'm actually kind of a T-Mo fanboy.

I've got an RMA coming from Tmo customer service arriving either today or tomorrow for a screen bleeder.
I'm going to open it, pop in battery and sim and check out the bleed.
If it's only slightly or not better at all, I'm keeping my original.
Like others have said, I only see it in the dark with a black screen...not really a big deal in the whole scheme of things.
Other than that, the unit I currently have is working flawlessly...and battery life is superb for me.

Will I like the G2x?

Currently have a Nexus S and I just ordered a G2X, if someone has compared them both. What do you think? Is the G2X a upgrade to the Nexus S? I'm in a good place because I can always hand down whatever device I don't want to keep or return the G2X for the Sensation. What are your opinions on the G2X hardware wise? The G2X will probably be stock for like 5 min. as I plan on putting whatever rom is hot atm. Please help I'm torn between the two lol.
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There are lots of NS owners and they say the screen is brighter and more detailed.... and much much faster.
Coming from the Nexus line, it flashes and everything the same way. No using special software to flash or anything. Just root, download Rom Manager, and flash.
The Sensation has an encrypted locked bootloader so chances of it having custom roms is slim-to-none.
Plus Tegra 2 dual-core is faster. HDMI out is fun. You'll like it.

Yep.
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I come from the Galaxy S 4G and I really like this phone.
Nexus S and Galaxy S 4G were similar phones so my answer is no, you will not be dissapointed with the G2x.
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I was about to pick up a G2X recently. I talked to a person in the store returning their G2X which had horrid back light bleeding. I'm learning that this issue is inherent to this models screen to varying degrees depending on your luck. The screenshots I've seen being sent to LG support don't look good either. Whats the consensus here?

Castle5665 said:
I was about to pick up a G2X recently. I talked to a person in the store returning their G2X which had horrid back light bleeding. I'm learning that this issue is inherent to this models screen to varying degrees depending on your luck. The screenshots I've seen being sent to LG support don't look good either. Whats the consensus here?
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A bunch of nit picken cry babies. It is never noticeable. I watch movies in the dark. Still not bad.
But whatever.
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mr.orange303 said:
A bunch of nit picken cry babies. It is never noticeable. I watch movies in the dark. Still not bad.
But whatever.
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this is more how i feel as well...
while it is an issue, some phones are worse than others for sure... My phone has what I would consider average bleeding for an LCD screen, i have a bit of bleed in the upper left corner and a smaller bit on the lower left... at 100% brightness on total black they are both noticeable but not like rays of sun protruding out the sides... on 50% you can see them if you are looking for them and lowest brightness they are totally unnoticeable...
now, i watch movies at night all the time and i keep my brightness settings on automatic so when i watch my movies that have dark edges and such the brightness is typically very low thus the bleeding goes unnoticed... never have i needed to watch a movie with max brightness in the dark, the only time i would noticeably see the bleeding... if i do max brightness during the day while watching something then i still dont notice the bleeding cuz the natural daylight blends it out...
point being, there are very few scenarios where you will even come in contact with the bleeding if its not so bad that your whole screen is turning yellow, which i have seen lol
its all a matter of what you can tolerate in the end...

Yes. It's a great phone, even with the old software, and when the tasty gingerbread update drops it will be better.
mr.orange303 said:
A bunch of nit picken cry babies. It is never noticeable. I watch movies in the dark. Still not bad.
But whatever.
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Agreed, though I am on my 2nd G2x. No issues at all. Minimal bleed in the top left and right corners, but not really noticeable except on the splash screen, boot animation, and power-off animation. I had an EVO for almost a year, and it had the same issue. Never noticed it with normal usage, even rockin' a gingerbread rom w/ the black status bar.
My first looked like the screens in this thread: http://www.lgforum.com/forum/boards/carriers/t-mobile/topics/g2x-screen-separating-from-body
Clearly defective, so I sent it back and got a new one. Very satisfied now.

Thanks for the opinions of the backlight bleed guys. I'm just worried coming from a SAMOLED screen on the Vibrant, that I would be very disappointed. I'll give it more consideration.

Castle5665 said:
Thanks for the opinions of the backlight bleed guys. I'm just worried coming from a SAMOLED screen on the Vibrant, that I would be very disappointed. I'll give it more consideration.
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I came from an AMOLED on a Nexus 1 and while it was not a SAMOLED i still think i prefer the LCD over LED given the current tech... the pentile matrix of LED drove me nuts, everything looked grainy to me regardless of the vibrant colors and deep blacks... LCD looks sharper and more natural... I have great eyesight so I am nitpicky about quality and clarity on my screen

I came from the vibrant also and I wonder what everyone was on about. While I like the colors of the vibrant, the g2x still looks bea-utiful! Lcd screen bleed isnt so bad. specially with the lights on.
Unlike a ugly chick you dont have to turn out the lights to use it!

Light bleed

So my first Transformer had minor light bleed along one edge of the screen. If I were to gently twist the tablet the bleed would fluctuate. I returned it and found that I had the only Transformer in my area so I could not get a replacement. I ended up ordering online last night.
My question is: Do all it these things have minor light bleed? If not, what are the chances my next one will have it? Or better yet the chances of me finding a remedy?
Can a few of you comment on your experiences with your own tablets please? The way I checked for it was to cover the camera sensor and take a picture. Turn the brightness all the way up and go into a dark room to look at that all black picture I just took in fullscreen mode.
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My first two have had more-than-minor light bleed. I should have my third on Monday. If that one has light bleed I'll start to consider giving up on the TF.

All of them have more or less light bleed I think. Mine also have some. You can see it at the bootscreen with the asus logo.

light bleed on ips screens are very common..

I have gone through 3 of them and they all had some light bleed. I don't believe anyone that says they don't have any. They just haven't maxed out brightness, put on a black wallpaper, and gone to a completely dark room.

i have a very minor light bleed- not enough to even worry.
You can check by using the nook book app and seting a book to night read mode.
Did not want to worry about sending it out to take a chance on getting another with minor light bleed or even worse light bleed. as well i had not other probs with it so why chance it.
That doesn't mean anyone else's bleed is not worse...so it is a case by case. choice.
good luck.

I guarantee you your next TF will have some light bleed. Whether it is better or worse, is a different story.

Thank you for all of the replies. I may consider the galaxy 10.1
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magicpork said:
light bleed on ips screens are very common..
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It is not the fact that it is an IPS screen, but the fact that it is Edge-lit to keep it thin/cheap.

eallan said:
It is not the fact that it is an IPS screen, but the fact that it is Edge-lit to keep it thin/cheap.
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Do ipad2's experience light bleed?
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Yes! As did iPad 1s and the Nook Color.

Didn't know that! Thank you
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Do ipad2's experience light bleed?
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Very much so. Guys...seriously stop whining about the light bleeding. It is not that important. 99% of them do this no matter what tablet you use. So just deal with it and use your new toy.

I don't have any light bleed on my tf. I'm in the UK. I must be lucky !

it really does depend on the amount of bleed though. The one I had was very severe on the bottom (in landscape). It didn't have to be dark at all to see it.

What exactly does screen bleeding effect

I just bought a g2x today. Didn't notice the screen bleed until I read about it. Just wondering what this does or the negative effect it has on my phone.
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Yeah. It makes people complain... Other than that I think it's just cosmetic...
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It just might be that my phone doesn't have screen bleeding as severe as other phones, but if I didn't read about it I probably wouldn't have noticed.

Yea that's what I'm thinking. I didn't hear about a single problem with the phone until I got it lol. Idk how bad mine is in relation to others but I don't want to exchange it and get one that's worse
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And is this something that can get progressively worse?
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Mine hasn't got any worse. I didn't notice til I read it on xda. I've had mine since release date and I love mine.
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No it does not affect usability at all. Some have posited that when Gingerbread gets released it will be more noticable on its dark notification bar. Some have also complained that their screen bleed has progressed to "bars" but I've only seen that a few times. I think virtually everyone will tell you it's a non issue.
That said, IMO, it is the lack of a real response that is indicative of the biggest issue of all.That being the lack of real support. People are getting them replaced, but that's it. I just want a phone that works. I have had a lot of issues. Getting a new one every two weeks is no fun. I'm in limbo now. I'm sick of re-entering everything....I really am. I just want a phone that works all the time with full functionality.Just get a new one is fine....but this is stupid.

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No it does not affect usability at all. Some have posited that when Gingerbread gets released it will be more noticable on its dark notification bar. Some have also complained that their screen bleed has progressed to "bars" but I've only seen that a few times. I think virtually everyone will tell you it's a non issue.
That said, IMO, it is the lack of a real response that is indicative of the biggest issue of all.That being the lack of real support. People are getting them replaced, but that's it. I just want a phone that works. I have had a lot of issues. Getting a new one every two weeks is no fun. I'm in limbo now. I'm sick of re-entering everything....I really am. I just want a phone that works all the time with full functionality.Just get a new one is fine....but this is stupid.
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So am I lol. Not with G2x but other phones. I am just looking for one that works. I need an international phone. I want one with a ffc to video chat to home. I want to future proof my device and I am doing that with a ffc, 4g, and a dual core processor. Its not an issue for me but I dont want it to become one.

not a thing, just crazy people having to have something to complain about. it really isn't serious at all.

ickster said:
No it does not affect usability at all. Some have posited that when Gingerbread gets released it will be more noticable on its dark notification bar. Some have also complained that their screen bleed has progressed to "bars" but I've only seen that a few times. I think virtually everyone will tell you it's a non issue.
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Im using Cm7 right now and it has a black bar on top and I notice that the side with light bleed looks a little washed out compared to the rest of the bar. You notice it even if its not dark but probably not if the lights are really bright
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the colors on this thing look beautiful and I'm wondering if when gb comes with its black status bar will things start to look a little off.
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The effect is purely cosmetic and is a result of the sort of screen the G2x uses. Most phones use a LED screen, particularly AMOLED and Super AMOLED. The G2x uses an LCD screen, which is what most TVs use.
LCD screens are much, much brighter (my old AMOLED screen's optimum brightness in daylight was 100%, this one is 25%) and displays colors with much more vibrance, but it doesn't handle black very well. Turn on your television in a dark room to an empty channel (like DVD when the dvd player isn't on) and you'll see the same effect.
Personally, I don't mind. In fact, I prefer the LCD: the brightness and color is more than good enough to offset the bleed.
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I'm wondering if when gb comes with its black status bar will things start to look a little off.
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After using the leaked 2.3.3 update, I can tell you that it definitely does look odd, but only when you're in a pitch-black room.

That's what I was worried about. Are you going to keep it? I'm trying to debate if I will or not. I do not really want the sensation
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[Q] Screen issue? Defective?

Hi all,
So I just got my Transformer this evening and am hoping and praying for no issues.
I am wondering about something when I turn on the unit however already... I cannot tell if this is normal or not.
On the lower part of the welcome screen about maybe a 1/4 way up from the bottom there seems to be a faint light bar/line that goes across from one side to the other in this area.
I cannot tell if this is part of the welcome screen or if this is a flaw. Everything as far as leaks goes and such looks great from all sides but this concerns me. If it's part of the welcome design screen then great! If not I think I obviously have a problem with the screen. I hope this is not the case.
I have attached the best image I could take with crap camera showing the line. I apologize for it not being the best quality.
If anyone can assist I'd truly appreciate it. I don't want to test it on other screens as I wanted to let my Transformer charge completely before getting into it as it states. What is a good amount of time to let it charge to get the most out of my battery?
Thanks again for all help offered.
-tweeker

You can't get a clear idea about light bleed with a background like that. Download a black image from the web and open it from the gallery app, that will give you an almost black screen. Light leak is most noticeable on a black screen with brightness set to max.

PhoenixFx said:
You can't get a clear idea about light bleed with a background like that. Download a black image from the web and open it from the gallery app, that will give you an almost black screen. Light leak is most noticeable on a black screen with brightness set to max.
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What about the streak of light that is going through the Android character is what I am referring to?
It's definitely not extremely blatant on this photo but you can certainly see it.

tweeker404 said:
What about the streak of light that is going through the Android character is what I am referring to?
It's definitely not extremely blatant on this photo but you can certainly see it.
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That's the background ... if there is a problem it will most likely be at the most extreme edges, it almost looks like there might be some on the bottom but that could be camera angle.
You already opened the box and took off the plastic, going past the welcome screen isn'tgoing to affect return policy or anything. Even if it did you can do a full wipe and be back to that screen in minutes.
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degeneration said:
That's the background ... if there is a problem it will most likely be at the most extreme edges, it almost looks like there might be some on the bottom but that could be camera angle.
You already opened the box and took off the plastic, going past the welcome screen isn'tgoing to affect return policy or anything. Even if it did you can do a full wipe and be back to that screen in minutes.
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Great thanks a lot! Yes you are right there is some at the bottom.
What you see is correct... Are there ones out there that do not have this bleeding at the bottom?
Thanks.

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Great thanks a lot! Yes you are right there is some at the bottom.
What you see is correct... Are there ones out there that do not have this bleeding at the bottom?
Thanks.
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Tough question. Probably? I think all have it to some degree, but like my new one I have to put a blanket over my head, turn the screen all black, and turn the brightness all the way up to notice it. If you don't notice it or it doesn't bother you it is just an aesthetic problem that shouldn't ever get worse (or better). If it does and you can exchange it I would recommend doing that instead of sending it to Asus. There are plenty of horror stories about people sending it for repair.
However I would wait until you only have a week left to send it back to see if you forget about it. Some people have gone through nearly a dozen returns looking for a perfect one. I mean we deserve to get one without flaws, but sadly these screens are so prone to bleed that it seems to make some people just give up on tablets...
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degeneration said:
Tough question. Probably? I think all have it to some degree, but like my new one I have to put a blanket over my head, turn the screen all black, and turn the brightness all the way up to notice it. If you don't notice it or it doesn't bother you it is just an aesthetic problem that shouldn't ever get worse (or better). If it does and you can exchange it I would recommend doing that instead of sending it to Asus. There are plenty of horror stories about people sending it for repair.
However I would wait until you only have a week left to send it back to see if you forget about it. Some people have gone through nearly a dozen returns looking for a perfect one. I mean we deserve to get one without flaws, but sadly these screens are so prone to bleed that it seems to make some people just give up on tablets...
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Yeah I can understand that. That is a great answer.
I noticed there is also noticable bleed on the left side as well near the bottom as well as the bleed noticed on the bottom all closer to the center and left.
Probably want to try out another one with there being more than just a little at the bottom. What do you think degen?
Thanks for your response.

tweeker404 said:
Yeah I can understand that. That is a great answer.
I noticed there is also noticable bleed on the left side as well near the bottom as well as the bleed noticed on the bottom all closer to the center and left.
Probably want to try out another one with there being more than just a little at the bottom. What do you think degen?
Thanks for your response.
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Like I mentioned I am on my second one, although I also had a blotch in the middle of my screen. If it bothers you now there's a good chance it always will. Sadly it's a roll of the dice. However having got mine from Amazon I figured I would rather return it then just regret it. Lightbleed SHOULDN'T exist but sadly you may have to settle with it to some degree but not a lot of it. If it bugs you while warching movies, playing games, or web browsing I would try exhanging it. Make sure to try it at night if you aren't sure. That's when it will be the most noticeable.
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degeneration said:
Like I mentioned I am on my second one, although I also had a blotch in the middle of my screen. If it bothers you now there's a good chance it always will. Sadly it's a roll of the dice. However having got mine from Amazon I figured I would rather return it then just regret it. Lightbleed SHOULDN'T exist but sadly you may have to settle with it to some degree but not a lot of it. If it bugs you while warching movies, playing games, or web browsing I would try exhanging it. Make sure to try it at night if you aren't sure. That's when it will be the most noticeable.
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Thanks a lot Degen. I appreciate your help.