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[solved] Xoom screen question

I just ditched my Notion ink Adam for the mighty Xoom. I'm glad to say I'm impressed. Now for the reason behind my post. Is it normal to see a diamond like pattern(what I suspect to be the digitizer) behind the glass.... I first noticed it while playing with the youtube app. The deep black colors gave way to what I thought was just noise from the video, but after looking at it on an angle with the screen off you can definitely see the pattern.
Is this normal? Last I remember seeing a digitizer was on my Mogul.
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A small moire type pattern or a large contrast difference pattern. I have seen the large pattern occasionally. It doesn't seem to interfere with actual usage.

it the screen capacitive touch sensors (dunno the technical term). i can see it on just about every touch screen except the ipad - go figure.
the 101 is a crosshatch, the nook color are dots, this xoom is a crosshatch with some kind of checker pattern.

I figured it was normal, just didn't expect it to be so profound. It has no hindering effect on user experience. I hope people don't take this and blow it out of proportion as a flaw...lol
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JSZESZE said:
I figured it was normal, just didn't expect it to be so profound. It has no hindering effect on user experience. I hope people don't take this and blow it out of proportion as a flaw...lol
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They probably will.. lol I've seen people make issues of of something trivial like a button squeaking when you press it.. I can already picture people saying "my xoom screen is messed up"
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yeah the only time you notice it will be on dark scenes/backgrounds with ambient light and holding it at a certain angle. the 101 is more predominant but it's really not a bother.

Bad LCD panel?
Hi everyone. I just bought my wifi-only model from Staples today (Sunday). I noticed a little "problem" with the LCD panel when I turned it on, but disregarded it.
While watching a movie, I noticed the issue in full force. When a movie file is playing and there is a black background, I can see "mini-panels" and it's very distracting. I don't see this on a solid black background without media playing so I'm guessing it's something with the backlight. I'm attaching a photo (glad I was able to capture it this way!).
Anyone else seeing this? I didn't look close enough at the store's display.

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Hi everyone. I just bought my wifi-only model from Staples today (Sunday). I noticed a little "problem" with the LCD panel when I turned it on, but disregarded it.
While watching a movie, I noticed the issue in full force. When a movie file is playing and there is a black background, I can see "mini-panels" and it's very distracting. I don't see this on a solid black background without media playing so I'm guessing it's something with the backlight. I'm attaching a photo (glad I was able to capture it this way!).
Anyone else seeing this? I didn't look close enough at the store's display.
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that's the capacitive sensors. i wonder how apple hides theirs.

Ive got them too, didnt notice it on any other devices ive used but its just the capacitor mesh that moto decided to use. My glass almost seems wavy as well (like not 100% flat) so not sure what my feelings are on that yet...

my guess on the waves is that it helps curb reflections.

Yeah what you guys are seeing is definitely the digitizer. On most touch screen devices you can see the digitizer at the right angle and with bright enough light (ie sunlight seems to bring it out the most). My guess is if you test this is a lower light setting you wont see any of the digitizer.
I have also noticed the digitizer on the xoom screen relatively easily.

well, ive just noticed the waves. i usually see small waves on screens but these are warps. good thing i'm trying to pay attention to the image on screen instead of the reflection, lol.

I have seen little warps on the bottom of the screen like 1/3 or the way to the middle and 2/3 to the right side (like a couple inches off center on each side). They are also in the same relative position on the top. My guess is this is how the screen is attached? It would be great if someone could take a good look at theirs, it may take looking at the reflection of light in those spots to actually see the warp, but I would really like to know if it is just mine or it is on all of them. And BTW I see the digitizer too, but it is worse on my HTC inspire 4g.

Will I like the G2x?

Currently have a Nexus S and I just ordered a G2X, if someone has compared them both. What do you think? Is the G2X a upgrade to the Nexus S? I'm in a good place because I can always hand down whatever device I don't want to keep or return the G2X for the Sensation. What are your opinions on the G2X hardware wise? The G2X will probably be stock for like 5 min. as I plan on putting whatever rom is hot atm. Please help I'm torn between the two lol.
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There are lots of NS owners and they say the screen is brighter and more detailed.... and much much faster.
Coming from the Nexus line, it flashes and everything the same way. No using special software to flash or anything. Just root, download Rom Manager, and flash.
The Sensation has an encrypted locked bootloader so chances of it having custom roms is slim-to-none.
Plus Tegra 2 dual-core is faster. HDMI out is fun. You'll like it.

Yep.
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I come from the Galaxy S 4G and I really like this phone.
Nexus S and Galaxy S 4G were similar phones so my answer is no, you will not be dissapointed with the G2x.
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I was about to pick up a G2X recently. I talked to a person in the store returning their G2X which had horrid back light bleeding. I'm learning that this issue is inherent to this models screen to varying degrees depending on your luck. The screenshots I've seen being sent to LG support don't look good either. Whats the consensus here?

Castle5665 said:
I was about to pick up a G2X recently. I talked to a person in the store returning their G2X which had horrid back light bleeding. I'm learning that this issue is inherent to this models screen to varying degrees depending on your luck. The screenshots I've seen being sent to LG support don't look good either. Whats the consensus here?
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A bunch of nit picken cry babies. It is never noticeable. I watch movies in the dark. Still not bad.
But whatever.
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mr.orange303 said:
A bunch of nit picken cry babies. It is never noticeable. I watch movies in the dark. Still not bad.
But whatever.
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this is more how i feel as well...
while it is an issue, some phones are worse than others for sure... My phone has what I would consider average bleeding for an LCD screen, i have a bit of bleed in the upper left corner and a smaller bit on the lower left... at 100% brightness on total black they are both noticeable but not like rays of sun protruding out the sides... on 50% you can see them if you are looking for them and lowest brightness they are totally unnoticeable...
now, i watch movies at night all the time and i keep my brightness settings on automatic so when i watch my movies that have dark edges and such the brightness is typically very low thus the bleeding goes unnoticed... never have i needed to watch a movie with max brightness in the dark, the only time i would noticeably see the bleeding... if i do max brightness during the day while watching something then i still dont notice the bleeding cuz the natural daylight blends it out...
point being, there are very few scenarios where you will even come in contact with the bleeding if its not so bad that your whole screen is turning yellow, which i have seen lol
its all a matter of what you can tolerate in the end...

Yes. It's a great phone, even with the old software, and when the tasty gingerbread update drops it will be better.
mr.orange303 said:
A bunch of nit picken cry babies. It is never noticeable. I watch movies in the dark. Still not bad.
But whatever.
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Agreed, though I am on my 2nd G2x. No issues at all. Minimal bleed in the top left and right corners, but not really noticeable except on the splash screen, boot animation, and power-off animation. I had an EVO for almost a year, and it had the same issue. Never noticed it with normal usage, even rockin' a gingerbread rom w/ the black status bar.
My first looked like the screens in this thread: http://www.lgforum.com/forum/boards/carriers/t-mobile/topics/g2x-screen-separating-from-body
Clearly defective, so I sent it back and got a new one. Very satisfied now.

Thanks for the opinions of the backlight bleed guys. I'm just worried coming from a SAMOLED screen on the Vibrant, that I would be very disappointed. I'll give it more consideration.

Castle5665 said:
Thanks for the opinions of the backlight bleed guys. I'm just worried coming from a SAMOLED screen on the Vibrant, that I would be very disappointed. I'll give it more consideration.
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I came from an AMOLED on a Nexus 1 and while it was not a SAMOLED i still think i prefer the LCD over LED given the current tech... the pentile matrix of LED drove me nuts, everything looked grainy to me regardless of the vibrant colors and deep blacks... LCD looks sharper and more natural... I have great eyesight so I am nitpicky about quality and clarity on my screen

I came from the vibrant also and I wonder what everyone was on about. While I like the colors of the vibrant, the g2x still looks bea-utiful! Lcd screen bleed isnt so bad. specially with the lights on.
Unlike a ugly chick you dont have to turn out the lights to use it!

[Q] Screen Quality

I just got a G2X yesterday and it has backlight arterial flow. It's not obvious looking head on but it doesn't take much of an angle to see light peeking around the edges. I've heard this is a "known issue" but would anyone else return their phone for a replacement? How likely is it that I'll have the same problem with the next one? I've had the vibrant since release and I've gotten used to the contrast and color of the amoled screen but I don't think I'm just being spoiled. For $500 I feel light bleed should not be an issue. Black uniformity? Ehhhh not quite as much but still... Anyone care to comment?

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I just got a G2X yesterday and it has backlight arterial flow. It's not obvious looking head on but it doesn't take much of an angle to see light peeking around the edges. I've heard this is a "known issue" but would anyone else return their phone for a replacement? How likely is it that I'll have the same problem with the next one? I've had the vibrant since release and I've gotten used to the contrast and color of the amoled screen but I don't think I'm just being spoiled. For $500 I feel light bleed should not be an issue. Black uniformity? Ehhhh not quite as much but still... Anyone care to comment?
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It is very likely you would get another phone with same issue.
LG uses a screen texhnology that has that bleed.
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wu_wei_lion said:
I just got a G2X yesterday and it has backlight arterial flow. It's not obvious looking head on but it doesn't take much of an angle to see light peeking around the edges. I've heard this is a "known issue" but would anyone else return their phone for a replacement? How likely is it that I'll have the same problem with the next one? I've had the vibrant since release and I've gotten used to the contrast and color of the amoled screen but I don't think I'm just being spoiled. For $500 I feel light bleed should not be an issue. Black uniformity? Ehhhh not quite as much but still... Anyone care to comment?
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Youre new around these parts aren't ya? Lol
Its a very well know issue. Look around this forum and you'll find countless references to it. It comes down to what is acceptable for you? Some people have returned and exchanged multiple times to correct it. For me, its barely noticeable and only on a black screen in a dark room so it doesn't bother me.
Look around the forum and then judge for yourself if you can live with the problem.

I'll probably try a return and if it happens again, I'll just deal and think about an upgrade later on. Like I said I'm used to the samsung screens so this problem is all new to me. Overall the build of the phone feels sturdier than the vibrant. I also like that web browsing is much smoother.

I can deal with that. I don't want reboots and a over heating phone. The screen problems are minimal on my phone.
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KRAZYADROIDMASTER said:
I can deal with that. I don't want reboots and a over heating phone. The screen problems are minimal on my phone.
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Have you done a complete hard reset/restore of the phone? Factory data reset?
It significantly cooled down my phone after doing it. Never had a reboot on the phone afterwards, but prior to that I only had one reboot, so I don't think I had a problem
I had installed a bunch of task killer/ battery saver apps on the phone, and the combo screwed things up software wise.....have not touched any task killers since.

I try that when I get a my new memory card.
Thanks.
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If mininmal light bleed is your only problem just keep it. Most likely the replacement will also have it. Even with light bleed the screen looked better than the sensations...
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Light bleeding in my Nexus 5?

Hello everyone, i got my nexus 5 a few days ago. And i noticed some light bleeding, is this considered "acceptable" light bleeding for the N5? Im thinking that if i rma it, i might get one with worse light bleeding and maybe other issues too. Do all N5 have this issue? Or mine is not that noticeable to go for rma?

It would be very difficult to get a nexus 5 without lightbleed of varying degrees. Its a common trait of LCD technology
You can only ask yourself if it is acceptable. To me it is. You would find it almost impossible to get one without bleed. That said, you may get one with less but then by the same token, what does it really matter? If you wanted the screen to be dark in a dark room, LCD could never achieve that without an LED backlight system.
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I think it's fine and not worth the RMA unless you just have to have that perfect device.

Depends how noticeable it is to you under normal usage conditions. Generally we don't use our phones in the dark with max brightness, but if it's bothering you in day to day usage then it might be worth trying a new one.

Not horrible as my RMA's Nexus 5 lol

Comes with the territory. If you feel black should be real black on your phone, get one with an amoled display type. But that technology comes with its own disadvantages like burning in pixels.
You'll have to decide for yourself what's most important to you.
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We have our own "image persistence" issues with lcd too
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I had the screen bleed issue on my Gnex as well, even though it is AMOLED. Haven't noticed it really on the N5 though.

You cannot have backlight bleeding with an amoled display: they don't have a backlight.
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Petrovski80 said:
You cannot have backlight bleeding with an amoled display: they don't have a backlight.
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Well I don't know what to tell ya because it did have it. The whole screen when black would have a glow to it. I don't know if you could technically call it light bleed but it looked like one of the pictures in this thread.

I think if the bleed just slight in the minor region.. accept it and enjoy your phone unless it somewhat major defect..
Trying hard to find a tiny bit of defect on this Nexus 5 beat the purpose of buying the awesome phone or we called it the developer phone..

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Hello everyone, i got my nexus 5 a few days ago. And i noticed some light bleeding, is this considered "acceptable" light bleeding for the N5? Im thinking that if i rma it, i might get one with worse light bleeding and maybe other issues too. Do all N5 have this issue? Or mine is not that noticeable to go for rma?
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Personally I never have my screen on full brightness unless its super sunny out. So I don't ever really see the bleed. However. Whatbi see in your pictures is two corners bleeding. I only have one corner bleeding. Back when I repaired phones I got this a lot with the HTC amaze. There is a 4 corner rule. If you get bleed on all for corners. Send it in. And I mean bleed. Not fade.
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All the Nexus 5 seems to have a bleed in the top left usually
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All the Nexus 5 seems to have a bleed in the top left usually
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Yes, there and where the volume rocker is.

Top left corner here as well, not going to RMA. It wouldn't most likely change anything; bleeds are more like a feature.

Light Bleed Issue

Are light bleed issues this noticeable normal for this phone? I've had multiple Androids and iPhones and have never noticed anything as obvious.

That is quite noticeable! Mine does not have that issue. I had bleeding issues with my former phones, but not that noticeable. If i were you, ill have it checked by the service center.

vince_junior said:
That is quite noticeable! Mine does not have that issue. I had bleeding issues with my former phones, but not that noticeable. If i were you, ill have it checked by the service center.
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Thanks for the input. I just wanted to know if it was a normal thing with Huawei screens.

Mine seems to have the same noticeable light leaks, but only if I crank it up to the highest brightness setting. The most apparent ones are also near the Sim / SD card slots and another near the volume rockers. It doesn't bother me though. Does anyone else get these?

chololazo said:
Mine seems to have the same noticeable light leaks, but only if I crank it up to the highest brightness setting. The most apparent ones are also near the Sim / SD card slots and another near the volume rockers. It doesn't bother me though. Does anyone else get these?
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Yup, that's the exact same spots as my phone. It's very annoying to me when I tried to put dark wallpapers and during movie watching, especially for really widescreen vids that have to be letterboxed. Pretty disappointed in this.

Buddy Revell said:
Yup, that's the exact same spots as my phone. It's very annoying to me when I tried to put dark wallpapers and during movie watching, especially for really widescreen vids that have to be letterboxed. Pretty disappointed in this.
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I do not know if it will work for you, but it works for me. Just press strongly with your finger the bezel in a way that minimize the light bleed. Little by little you should manage to have à more homogenous back light.

Well, the light bleed problem is also noticeable in the replacement AM7 I received. Not very good for watching movies with lots of black or for using black themes/wallpapers imo. Here are pics of them next to an iPhone, all with the same wallpaper.

^wow, the light bleed issue in your unit is really serious! And even the replacement has the same problem?
However, in my unit, no matter how I try to look at it, in dark and completely black wallpapers, I cant seem to find any lihht bleed.
I wonder if other users here also experience this issue?

This situation is very frustrating. I wonder how common of a problem this is with the AM7?

haven't got my phone yet but will check it out for this issue

Wow. While my phne was in recovery installing latest OTA update, against a very dark bacground, I noticed the light bleed on the right side, where the power and volume buttons are located.
So yes, I confirm the light bleed. And I think it is a build issue.

vince_junior said:
Wow. While my phne was in recovery installing latest OTA update, against a very dark bacground, I noticed the light bleed on the right side, where the power and volume buttons are located.
So yes, I confirm the light bleed. And I think it is a build issue.
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If/when you have time, can you post a pic or two so I can compare it to mine? Salamat, brotha!

No issue on my L09
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Can anyone have issues with screen brightness? Cause my friend mate 7 is brighter than mine..and colo of my screen is not so white ..it take pink shape..
I havent notized this..but now that i have both phones in my hand it's bothering me :/
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papaver said:
Can anyone have issues with screen brightness? Cause my friend mate 7 is brighter than mine..and colo of my screen is not so white ..it take pink shape..
I havent notized this..but now that i have both phones in my hand it's bothering me :/
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Did you make sure auto brightness was disabled after sliding the brightness slider to max? Moving it to max alone doesn't give you maximum brightness.
As for the tint, you can change the colour temperature of your screen by going Settings -> Display -> Colour Temperature. Adjust that till you're happy with the colour tint.

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Did you make sure auto brightness was disabled after sliding the brightness slider to max? Moving it to max alone doesn't give you maximum brightness.
As for the tint, you can change the colour temperature of your screen by going Settings -> Display -> Colour Temperature. Adjust that till you're happy with the colour tint.
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I tried all of this.. And my friend phone is still brighter and more lighter than mine :/
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Notize the difference? On both are same settings..and mine is lover..and has white spot on it :/
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I was in the store today..and the phone they have is even worse..the screen is looking white red..so it must be serial difderent from phone to phone
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your phone is the one on the left @papaver?
its pretty yellowish and warmer. i was thinking of display settings, too, but you said you tried all settings and your friend's phone is still brighter.
also, that white spot is pretty alarming. i guess you have to show it to the service center technician for diagnostics.

Yeah..but the gold huawei in store is even worse.. i wouldnt notized the difference between screen if there werent be two mate7 at home..
Maybe i will give it to services..i asked today and in the store said that they have to send it to official service in our country and than it would take month or more to have back my phone..so i will see
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