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[Q] ROM Manager bricking phones...?

Could ROM Manager fake Flash Clockworkmod recovery be responsible for bricking phones on LG update? Let me explain what I mean - Lots of people, like myself, installed ROM Manager and its CWM because we did not know it's not real Flash. Then We switched to "real" CWM. Now the question is when we do normal stock recovery in order to get official GB update, does this CWM of ROM manager still remains in the phone? If so, could it be that it contributed to the troubles updating through LG tool? How can I make sure I removed it from the phone?
Thanks!

Yes. Many people have confirmed that not having the stock recovery on the device is a road to Bricksville. Even though you are fake flashed there is code inserted somewhere to redirect to the fake flash, and the recovery images for flash (normally installed every boot) have been deleted or renamed. You should flash stock recovery with NVFlasher to make sure you are back at a clean stock recovery before using the LG Update tool.

Thanks but what I mean is that AFTER I realized it's fake flash I installed "real" CWM. So when I do stock on this "real", does CWM rom manager still remains in the phone and how can I remove it?

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so I am a little confused I used CWM to make a backup before I did anything to my phone. And I was already on the 2.3.3 lg update. So if I restore that I should be back to stock and CWM should still be there right? But lets say LG comes out with another update (Doubtful) and I want to use it I should use the NVflash to reture the phone to stock? if I use NVflash will that put me back on froyo 2.2.2 or GB 2.3.3?
Also I used rom manager to make a backup of the rom I was on which was the stock rooted so is that fake or what the hell is fake? is it the first option in rom manager the CWM recovery? is it the same if I use CWM stock recovery? in cwn itself? Oh I am so confused someone help me

ROM Manager cannot flash directly to the phone so it "fake flashes" CWM recovery. It only installs a few files to the system so that when you run recovery the stock recovery runs an "upate" and that launches CWM recovery from your SD card. Just return the phone to GB 2.3.3 stock and be happy with it. If you restore using CWM it will remain there, so you should use NVFlash to restore stock recovery also.

jboxer said:
ROM Manager cannot flash directly to the phone so it "fake flashes" CWM recovery. It only installs a few files to the system so that when you run recovery the stock recovery runs an "upate" and that launches CWM recovery from your SD card. Just return the phone to GB 2.3.3 stock and be happy with it. If you restore using CWM it will remain there, so you should use NVFlash to restore stock recovery also.
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I have BOTH - CWM AND CWM through the ROM Manager. So if use NV Flash to go to stock, is the CWM from ROM manager still in the phone and how can I remove it?
Thanks!

so what I am getting out of this is rom manager is crap and dont use it. If you just use CWM to do your flashing and backups and recoverys you should be ok.
Charlie

mojorisin7178 said:
so what I am getting out of this is rom manager is crap and dont use it. If you just use CWM to do your flashing and backups and recoverys you should be ok.
Charlie
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Thanks but my questions are:
1. If I go to stock using NV Flasher, is ROM Manager's CWM still going to be in the phone, since I have BOTH?
2. Can it BRICK my phone if I do the LG update then?
3. How can I make sure I removed BOTH - NV Flash CWM AND ROM Manager CWM?

CWM problem on Stock ROM + other problems

I have a question about CWM. I installed it on my stock rom and now it says unable to mount /system. will i be able to flash other custom roms? and if i can how to make a backup of current rom?
p.s. i made a backup of all my apps via Titanium Backup Pro, and if i install it on new rom will it be able to restore those apps there? and does flashing a kernel and rom changes my baseband version?

choose the backup option from cwm menu.

lomash said:
choose the backup option from cwm menu.
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And do you know an answer for other questions?

no you need to re-install all apps from the android market.
after re-installation, you can restore your saved data like high scores/achievements and all.
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The cwm doesnt work for stock roms because tj style has clearly mentioned that the recovery wont work custom or stock rom using rfs file systems.....you cant do backup using cwm..you can only backup boot and recovery image...to backup apps use appmonster pro......the apps will be backed up in your sd then after flashing your new rom you can install them from sd....you can flash custom roms...
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ajay8055 said:
The cwm doesnt work for stock roms because tj style has clearly mentioned that the recovery wont work custom or stock rom using rfs file systems.....you cant do backup using cwm..you can only backup boot and recovery image...to backup apps use appmonster pro......the apps will be backed up in your sd then after flashing your new rom you can install them from sd....you can flash custom roms...
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thanks! and i pressed thanks button!

Is there any way to get a stock rom to dump on cwm? I mean like use the stock rom as a backup so i dont have to flash with odin :S

plz help
i rooted my galaxy fit via update_1. zip method .then i tried to install cwm recovery tj style via odin bt it dint installed n my phone is stuck..plz help

vikas1038 said:
i rooted my galaxy fit via update_1. zip method .then i tried to install cwm recovery tj style via odin bt it dint installed n my phone is stuck..plz help
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That happen to me..ill guide you to what i did.. i think you miss out on restartiong phone before flashing cwm..just flash your phone again with original stock.. let it boot and restar..then add the root zip and restar in recovery..update it and let it boot normally.. restar again and flash cwm with odin.. and let it boot..

Jose0726 said:
Is there any way to get a stock rom to dump on cwm? I mean like use the stock rom as a backup so i dont have to flash with odin :S
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no, because stock rom has rfs file system, so cwm cant make a backup of stock systems, but after you flash the custom rom you can create a backup of any custom rom that supports ext4 file system... and if you want to make a backup of your installed apps use titanium backup, it worked best for me, and you can use it on any rom...

whatever appmonster can do, titanium can do as well...
why have two apps, when one does the entire job (and even more)??
also, backups made by titanium (apk as well as data) are compressed...so you get a little more space on your card...

Rom upgrade help, quick question please!

I used revolutionary to S off my phone, my phone gave me the option to do and over the air update to 2.3.5 I think it was. This would not install, I guess because I S-off'd it. It now no longer give me this option.
Can anyone on give me a link to get the update from and how to use revolutionary to install it, with sense 2.3.5. I could so with it being rooted so I can use internet tethering over bluetooth.
Cheers

I would recommend rooting your phone. Use superoneclick to do it. This program is pretty easy to use. Download it on your PC, connect your phone and just follow the instructions
if you haven't already:
Use rom manager and install clockworkmod recovery OR
use 4ext recovery updater to install 4ext recovery. 4ext is usually the preferred option
Both these apps can be obtained from the market
Then choose any rom you want from the development section, download the zip and place it on your SD card. Boot into recovery and wipe all your data. Then flash the rom.
This thread should give you the links and any extra information you might want:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1146601
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium

that means nothing to me. I know how to use revoltionary I think, I just need to know which is the right sense 3.0 rom for my phone. Im in england

I'm not sure how much simpler I can put it!
if all of that means nothing try going on the link I put before and reading some of the guides in the general section
Some knowledge is needed to do all of this. But I assure you its pretty simple
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium

Using rom manager I cannot find a HTC shipped version of the ROM. I just want the rom version my over the air update failed to complete, I was hoping if I could install this 2.3.5 using revolutionary it would update properly. I just need to know the right file and where to get it from.
Also if I flash a rom using revolutionary will i loose all my phone setup and data, I know if you do the OTA update all data is preserved.
Thanks for you help.

Ok with rom manager have you chosen the very first option to flash a custom recovery? If not, do it. Secondly, I would recommend you root before doing anything. Use superoneclick on your computer to do so.
Now you have a custom recovery (or should have). What you need to do now:
Download this rom if you want stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1230029
Put it on your SD card. Then switch off your phone. Once its off hold volume down+power. You'll get into the bootloader. Choose recovery. You should then boot up into clockworkmod recovery. From here, I'd firstly strongly urge you to make a backup. Go to backup and restore and create backup.
Now do a factory reset. After its complete select choose zip from SD card. Then go to the rom you put on the phone. Select yes when you click it. Once its installed, reboot
Done
That's the best I can do. However ask any more questions if you need to.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium

dan-fish said:
Ok with rom manager have you chosen the very first option to flash a custom recovery? If not, do it. Secondly, I would recommend you root before doing anything. Use superoneclick on your computer to do so.
Now you have a custom recovery (or should have). What you need to do now:
Download this rom if you want stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1230029
Put it on your SD card. Then switch off your phone. Once its off hold volume down+power. You'll get into the bootloader. Choose recovery. You should then boot up into clockworkmod recovery. From here, I'd firstly strongly urge you to make a backup. Go to backup and restore and create backup.
Now do a factory reset. After its complete select choose zip from SD card. Then go to the rom you put on the phone. Select yes when you click it. Once its installed, reboot
Done
That's the best I can do. However ask any more questions if you need to.
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Thank you I get it now!!
One last question, will I lose the data and apps off my phone? I know when you do a rom upgrade on the over the air updates, it keeps all your data but will I lose the data on the phone if I do a rom upgrade this way?

Rich196 said:
Thank you I get it now!!
One last question, will I lose the data and apps off my phone? I know when you do a rom upgrade on the over the air updates, it keeps all your data but will I lose the data on the phone if I do a rom upgrade this way?
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You will. But if you root before doing this then you can download titanium backup from the market which will backup all the apps you want to. I believe it's a must have app when changing ROMs. There's also MyBackup Pro which will backup all of your stuff. Don't worry about your contacts though, just make sure they're synced with google in Settings > Accounts & Sync > Google

Q: Backing up stock ROM

Hello,
I haven't found the precise answer for this but I have searched. So if this is repetetive, please forgive me (and don't hurt me )
So, I want to try Cyanogenmod 7.2 RC1 for my Galaxy Ace. But I want to be able to go back to my stock ROM.
I know there are generic stock ROMs floating around (which I've learned from my searches). But I'd like to back up my own stock ROM.
Can this be done with ROM Manager (free version)?
Thank you!

Indeed you can. But the free version is out of google market (google play now).
What I advise you is to install CWM (search here on xda), and you can do a full backup of your phone there! That's what I did.

Great, thank you very much, I will try this.
So basically you used CWM to backup your stock ROM and if you wanted you could restore it to factory settings like nothing happened?
I have found the ROM Manager on Play here : play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.rommanager

Prosis said:
Great, thank you very much, I will try this.
So basically you used CWM to backup your stock ROM and if you wanted you could restore it to factory settings like nothing happened?
I have found the ROM Manager on Play here : play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.rommanager
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That is a great rom manager. You will need an external SD card and have your phone rooted before backing up.

Thank you!
Should I go with CWM or ROM Manager (or do I need both from what I understand)

I just reboot into my recovery (CWM)
Then I choose the backup option and it just simply backs my current rom.
If you dont like the new rom, you just choose the restore option and it restores your old rom for you

Warning. The backup becomes corrupted easily so u should immediately copy it onto a ssd or back it up online. And make a few backups in case one fails. Its happened to me a few times
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[Q] cm10 unintall method for htc one v (india-gsm)

i have installed cm10 on htc one v primo-u (india gsm ) and i wish to revert to the original image.
i tried to flash India_1567201recovery_signed.img file but no success.
can someone help me with a procedure how to revert to either 1.56.720 or 2.09.720 image of the phone

romah1 said:
i have installed cm10 on htc one v primo-u (india gsm ) and i wish to revert to the original image.
i tried to flash India_1567201recovery_signed.img file but no success.
can someone help me with a procedure how to revert to either 1.56.720 or 2.09.720 image of the phone
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How did you try to flash the RUU? You can not flash it like a normal ROM
Also if you are looking for the RUU try HERE
I see what you're trying to do, that won't work...you can't flash a recovery to get to stock because stock phone won't flash from recovery, which is why once you get root the first thing you do is flash a custom recovery. Use the RUU to flash it back to shipped state stock, or if you are trying to keep root and just want to use a different ROM. More clarification on what you are trying to accomplish would be nice.
If you did a Nandroid prior to flashing CM10 I would wipe all partitions except SD and restore the Nandroid, if all you want to do is get CM10 off your phone. Remember Nandroid Backups are your friend do them before flashing anything and save them to your PC if you don't want the SD space taken. Doing this has made flashing pain free and hassle free. If I don't like how my phone is running after a flash I can always get it right back to how it was when I was happy with it. Lastly there was a time when I had a Nandroid backup of a Sense ROM and was on AOSP and wanted to flash back to Sense, well my Backup wouldn't flash. After spending hours raising hell I did a clean install of the ROM booted once, then rebooted into recovery and flashed the Nandroid backup that had the settings I was using (when I was on Sense, it won't restore data and apps used on AOSP)...sorry if its not much help but more details are needed. But you have a starting point.

ItzCrooK2UxD said:
How did you try to flash the RUU? You can not flash it like a normal ROM
Also if you are looking for the RUU try HERE
I see what you're trying to do, that won't work...you can't flash a recovery to get to stock because stock phone won't flash from recovery, which is why once you get root the first thing you do is flash a custom recovery. Use the RUU to flash it back to shipped state stock, or if you are trying to keep root and just want to use a different ROM. More clarification on what you are trying to accomplish would be nice.
If you did a Nandroid prior to flashing CM10 I would wipe all partitions except SD and restore the Nandroid, if all you want to do is get CM10 off your phone. Remember Nandroid Backups are your friend do them before flashing anything and save them to your PC if you don't want the SD space taken. Doing this has made flashing pain free and hassle free. If I don't like how my phone is running after a flash I can always get it right back to how it was when I was happy with it. Lastly there was a time when I had a Nandroid backup of a Sense ROM and was on AOSP and wanted to flash back to Sense, well my Backup wouldn't flash. After spending hours raising hell I did a clean install of the ROM booted once, then rebooted into recovery and flashed the Nandroid backup that had the settings I was using (when I was on Sense, it won't restore data and apps used on AOSP)...sorry if its not much help but more details are needed. But you have a starting point.
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i have installed CM10 without backing up any image, therefore i cannot restore the orifginal vendor's rom. Nandroid back would have prevented this situation. the second problem is that I couldnt find any RUU for this phone. indeed the link you attached seems to have it bu unfortunately it is in chineese and after pushing all the buttons i couldn't download the file. so my options are
1- to pray that someone will be kind enough to publish it in a manner that it is accessible
2- I have a friend with a simillar phone , can i somehow back up hus rom and restore it in mine ????
thank
romah1