New to Android, about 3 weeks now with my Rogers 1727R. I've been trying to grab all the good files and build my understanding of returning my phone to it's stock ROM if I have to return it or if I brick it etc. But I seem to have downloaded, from this forum, so many files, with different names and files sizes, I'm confused about what does what. So I'm asking any senior people here if they can tell me what I have, what it does, and whether I need it. Here goes:
Stock_ROM_SGH-I727R-UCKJ2-k0nane.7z - Think this is a stock ROM but un-bloated. It's 257 MB.
i727_stock_kernel_odin.tar - It's 10 MB, appears to be a stock AT&T ROM, but perhaps just the kernel, not the whole ROM?
Stock Recovery.tar - It's 6.08 MB. Downloaded it today.
Nandroid backup - 841 Megs with data.ext4.tar, system.ext4.tar, boot.img and recovery.img which I thought was a complete image of my ROM.
Look at the size differences. From 6 MB up to 841 MB. What the heck are all these files?
please dont cross-post.....
I was wondering the same thing. I rooted my Skyrocket but in the instance that ICS is available before more custom roms, I may want to unroot. I can't find much information on this. Only how to root for which there is good information and tutorial videos. The size of the different recovery files seems to vary quite a bit.
You do not.need to unroot to take an ota update. You just cant delete any bloat. And gota have stock recovery..... so freeze bloat dont delete. But if you do you can always odin the stock tar
I thought when you flash ClockWorkMod (recovery.tar) that that replaces your stock recovery. Or do you still have the stock recovery just with CWM added?
Presbycusis said:
I thought when you flash ClockWorkMod (recovery.tar) that that replaces your stock recovery. Or do you still have the stock recovery just with CWM added?
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Yes when you flash CWM you replace stock, do not take an update if you are using CWM, flash back to stock recovery first if you think you just have to have the #.#.2 instead of the #.#.1, to me its not worth it. Once I flash I don't go back to stock. The developers here are amazing.
@ harry_fine, be careful, or you are going to end up with a $200 paper weight. I know how confusing this stuff looks when you first start. Do you're research, make a plan before downloading random stuff you know nothing about. I like to play it safe. I read the posts in the developers section a few times a day for a week before I even start to flash a phone. Most all developers that post things give a very in depth description of what it is they are making available READ IT ALL, and follow directions posted. If i see something that looks interesting I just let it sit a couple days and read what people post about it. If all seems good and there are no major problems I give it a try if not ill let it pass. I have yet to brick a phone (knock on wood). I hope this helps.
BTW
Stock_ROM_SGH-I727R-UCKJ2-k0nane.7z -its a ROM, the post where you got it should tell you whats in it
i727_stock_kernel_odin.tar - this is a stock kernel, I like to think of them as drivers for you phone, install with odin
Stock Recovery.tar - this is a stock recovery you need this if you have installed CWM but want to instal an update, install with odin
Nandroid backup - this is something you should make using CWM before you start flashing a ROM just encase the ROM jacks up you phone you can reinstall
Thanks for explaining that. I am still trying to get the hang of everything myself. I read the Rooting instructions and watched several how to videos before I even considered taking the plunge. I am still a little confused about some of the terminology but I am learning by the day.
The only reason I would consider going back to stock would be if ICS is available before CM7 or CM9 on Skyrocket and then I would want to try it out.
So, if I were to flash back to "stock recovery.tar" (Does the name matter at all?) and take the update, that would would mean I was unrooted again right? Then I would undergo the same procedure to flash cwm and then Superuser?
If I use a custom kernal can that stay the same or does it need to be stock as well before installing an update or new rom?
I don't pay that much attention to the "return to stock threads" since I would never risk it for an update, even ICS, but from what I understand If you wanted to take the update you would need to put the stock recovery (name may not matter but why risk it) and stock kernel back in. You would still be rooted, and need only install CWM if you wanted to instal another ROM later. I think. If I am wrong someone will correct me, but that should be that.
Then how does one completely unroot if they wanted (or needed) to?
To unroot you odin the stock tar
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The stock tar in the unroot reaturn to stock fix soft brick thread. Is the factory firmware the phone comes with.....stock recovery not rooted
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Hi everyone
I am a noob so be nice to me. I accidently cracked the screen on my Samsung Vibrant and so have a few questions about how to return the phone back to Stock/unrooted (just like befor i flashed). I am fine if i have to lose my contacts, apps. ect...
Background:
I rooted my phone with One-Click-Root/Unroot from XDA (loved it). I then flashed the latest Nero 5.0 ROM from Team Wiskey (Love it). As part of either the root or flashing the ROM(i can't remember which one), I downloaded "ROM Manager" with CWR.
Q #1: Is it as easy returning to stock ROM as just using "Flashing ClockworkMod Recovery" or should I have used "nandroid" (don't know what it does, but I see it talked about) also?
Q #2: I hear people say that you need Odin to return back to stock ROM, but then I hear that is ONLY if you don't have ROM Manager w/CWR. Do I need Odin or do I only need ROM Manager w/CWR?
Q #3: If all I need is ROM Manager w/CWR and it returnes back to what it was before i flashed, can i just us the "Unroot" button on the One-Click-Root/Unroot"?
Q #4(Last Question): Will I recieve OTA's if I have to us Odin and flash a stock ROM, how do I get back to stock and recieveing OTA's?
I understand that there are alot of posts asking how to return to stock but that is from people where something in the programs went wrong when trying to return to stock. I am just wondering what programs (other than ROM Manager and CWR) are need for me to return to stock? Please help, I don't want my phone to be rejected because my warranty is void. Thanks
Noob123
All thats needed to return to stock is a Nandroid backup of your original ROM.
Oh wait.....
Why do people totally fail at this?
What you need now is an original ROM for your device and then flash it from recovery.
So in other words, I need to download a 2.1 Rom (last version i had) from somewhere back on to my computer and then do the same things that i did to flash Nero 5? Is that where Odin comes in? OR, would CWR already have that ROM and everything all in one package?
Like I said, I am a nook. I am suprised that i didnt brick my phone rooting and flashing a ROM the first time. I may be pushing my luck going back to stock. But, it needs to be done if i want my phone fixed.
I would have a look HERE, in the Samsung Vibrant forum. I'm sure you'll find an Official ROM to Flash somewhere in there.
You would just put the .zip on your SD card, restart to Recovery and select the option to Flash from SD
Okay, i am getting it now. However, wont the "Update.zip" (Nero 5.0) be there on my SD memory already? Will i damage my phone if i delete the "Update.zip" and put in the Stock.zip (then do the recovery thing)? So once i get the Stock ROM uploaded on my phone, can i just use the one-click-unroot (from XDA) to have my phone be unrooted and new just like it was when i bought the phone? Will i get OTA's?
Thank you for your help, i am sorry for bugging you but i feel like i am starting to understand it more. These are probably the last questions that i have....probably
Sorry, I'm new to this so sorry if this seems dumb.
So i bought the phone from rogers and immediately updated to froyo 2.2 official release by rogers/samsung.
I read about all the hype online about rooting and custom roms so i decided to give it a shot.
I used the superoneclick method to root my phone and it was successful.
I then used "rom manager - clockworkmod" and created a restore file before i did any flashing to my phone.
after creating a backup, i went on and flashed to the cognition 3.04.
Now my question is. Am i ever able to get my phone back to its original rom, kernel, and modem? the reason i want to know is because i might need to get my phone replaced due to some technical issues with the phone.
Also, does the backup of my phone after rooting play a part in any of this? if so, how?
Im sorry if there is already a post like this one. Its just that i couldn't find the answer through all the hundreds of pages of threads and replies, so I thought it would be easier to post a here with my specific question. Thanks.
regards,
danny
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Sorry, I'm new to this so sorry if this seems dumb.
So i bought the phone from rogers and immediately updated to froyo 2.2 official release by rogers/samsung.
I read about all the hype online about rooting and custom roms so i decided to give it a shot.
I used the superoneclick method to root my phone and it was successful.
I then used "rom manager - clockworkmod" and created a restore file before i did any flashing to my phone.
after creating a backup, i went on and flashed to the cognition 3.04.
Now my question is. Am i ever able to get my phone back to its original rom, kernel, and modem? the reason i want to know is because i might need to get my phone replaced due to some technical issues with the phone.
Also, does the backup of my phone after rooting play a part in any of this? if so, how?
Im sorry if there is already a post like this one. Its just that i couldn't find the answer through all the hundreds of pages of threads and replies, so I thought it would be easier to post a here with my specific question. Thanks.
regards,
danny
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Follow this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
It guides you through the process of going back to a stock ROM. Btw, I've used it and it works.
Good Luck!!
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Follow this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
It guides you through the process of going back to a stock ROM. Btw, I've used it and it works.
Good Luck!!
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Dont use that link because it is for att firmaware. I havent seen any prepackaged odin one click for rogers.
This is my captivate. There are many like it buy this one is mine.
Christo_69 said:
Follow this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
It guides you through the process of going back to a stock ROM. Btw, I've used it and it works.
Good Luck!!
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Thanks for that. Do you think Odin is the only way to do it or do you think i can use clockworkmod
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Dont use that link because it is for att firmaware. I havent seen any prepackaged odin one click for rogers.
This is my captivate. There are many like it buy this one is mine.
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Do I not use that link in general, or just not to use the firmware given at the bottom? the steps are correct though, no?
also from my searching.
i can put my phone back to my backup point (just after rooting) through clockworkmod. Woud this change my rom back to stock from? how about kernel and modem and all that? would that all get reversed back to my backup point? meaning it will basically be a stock phone. But I think also read somewhere that my kernel and modem does not get changed back to rogers original one. is there a way to do it?
I then found this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=846501
that says i need the original rogers rom for the captivate by the links there no longer work for download. Also on that thread, it was mentioned that the AT&T logo will still come up on startup, which would not be a good idea if i had to send my phone in for warrenty.
I then looked at : http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-I896
Here it tells me to flash to a i9000 before i reflash to a rogers firmware in order to remove the at&t logo. it also provides me with a link for the " Official Rogers Stock ROM ", but according to somebody on the first link i posted here, it isnt the "official rom"
Any ideas?
This is where I got the stock 2.2 file from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905042.
Edit: I have flashed a bunch of times and have never got stuck with the AT&T startup after flashing back to stock with the odin file.
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This is where I got the stock 2.2 file from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905042.
Edit: I have flashed a bunch of times and have never got stuck with the AT&T startup after flashing back to stock with the odin file.
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Thanks. Do you know if my kernel is going to go back to stock too or is it going to remain the same as the custom rom one?
dsu said:
Thanks. Do you know if my kernel is going to go back to stock too or is it going to remain the same as the custom rom one?
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If you use the odin file the kernal and modem will revert back to stock.
Akalon said:
If you use the odin file the kernal and modem will revert back to stock.
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Thanks. So im assuming now that the only time my kernel and modem wont go back to stock is when i flash with CWM. correct?
I haven't tried using the CWM file in that link so I'm not sure if it contains the kernel and modem. As far as custom roms go most if not all come packaged with the kernel and modem of choice.
So.. When I do a "master clear" from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989...
Would everything be wiped? I read somewhere that when you do a "wipe" from your settings it only clears user settings or something. What would a "wipe"
from the recovery menu do?
I flashed to a different rom today thinking it will help my battery issue. When i am flashing from one rom to the next, i do a restore back to my backup before i flash to a new rom. Is this the correct method? or am i supposed to wipe beforehand? The reason i ask is because this is my 2nd rom and my battery issue still seems to be there. I tried other methods of fixing hte battery but nothign seems to work. When i looked into root explorer, i see that there are a lot more files now everywhere, than when i first started. would some of them be from my previous rom? if so how do i remove them?
I currently have ICS theme installed via flash.
Simple... restore your backup. You do have a backup right? I mean everyone takes a backup before they flash don't they? Umm, maybe not everyone.
Nevermind, if you don't have one, just reflash your original ROM, or push the relevant files which were over-written by the theme using ADB or a file explorer with root permissions.
Nope...I don't have my original ROM, however...any UK stock theme will do to be honest because ICS is pretty noticable, I just need a link to a Uk stock theme for the Galaxy note or even Android 2.3.6 as I have updated my firmware for my phone.
KKA, or which version exactly?
The rom is...
Baseband version: N7000XXKK5
Build number: GINGERBREAD.XXKKA
Another option would be to re-flash my current rom (updated firmware) however...the phone doesn't allow that, unless I can find one from somewhere.
I am doing this all because of...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20067262#post20067262
First day i get my phone and the screen plays up, never ever had this problem before with any phone I have got, only this one, unlucky I guess.
Cool,
Did you by any chance root using Chainfire's method? If you did, just use the CWM app that comes supplied when you flash his kernel to flash the original KKA firmware (the one you are using). It is non-wipe and will be rooted by his app.
To download the KKA firmware, click here. Sign in to download.
Then read Chainfire's instructions about flashing firmware using the CWM app VERY CAREFULLY in his thread here. Read the first few posts... and then read them again
Unfortunately I am not at work and don't have unmodified system apks to provide you with a flashable zip to replace the theme.
Alternative to the above... ask around and see if anyone has unmodified apks from KKA which you can flash. You will need all of the files which were contained in the themed zip you used.
EDIT: About those dark lines, are you sure it's not colour banding. All Note users get them (they are often feint). Most Note users won't admit to it though
I used 'The Easy rooting Toolkit' method, will have a look at replacing files in the theme, btw...I can look in the ICS rom and replace the exact same files from the KKA ROM (the link you provided), so is that the best idea?...to me that sound easy and then I would just need to flash it from CMW
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I used 'The Easy rooting Toolkit' method, will have a look at replacing files in the theme, btw...I can look in the ICS rom and replace the exact same files from the KKA ROM (the link you provided), so is that the best idea?...to me that sound easy and then I would just need to flash it from CMW
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true it will work
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true it will work
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Not quite that simple.
To do that you will need to unpack the .img files contained in the zip that I linked to, which is a bit of a nightmare if you aren't sure what you are doing.
nobnut said:
Cool,
EDIT: About those dark lines, are you sure it's not colour banding. All Note users get them (they are often feint). Most Note users won't admit to it though
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They can only be seen in the dark and when the phone has a very dark background with the backlight lit, they aren't straight lines, they start from the top right hand corner and each is about 3cm long, I have 3 lines showing at the moment. Also...I have noticed a dozen little dots in the same condition (dark background and in the dark), hope that helps what the problem may be
Bah! Annoying.
In that case I would go back to stock (making sure your flash counter says zero after) and return it. I'm a fussy SOB and that would annoy me.
I don't have the stock ROM though, only the update (firmware)
How do I know how much the counter is?...is that the number at the end of the 'Kernel version'? Btw...does a theme flash count add to the counter?...because I have #2 on mine.
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I don't have the stock ROM though, only the update (firmware)
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I know. That is why I suggested using Chainfire's rooted kernel and CWM app. It allows you to flash and root a stock firmware, without increasing the flash count.
If you boot into download mode you can see your flash count.
No, flashing a theme doesn't increase the count... basically what does is flashing a non-stock kernel (except Chainfire's) via ODIN.
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I know. That is why I suggested using Chainfire's rooted kernel and CWM app. It allows you to flash and root a stock firmware, without increasing the flash count.
If you boot into download mode you can see your flash count.
No, flashing a theme doesn't increase the count... basically what does is flashing a non-stock kernel (except Chainfire's) via ODIN.
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To be honest...I have no idea what to do in regards to using this Chainfire thing, if it was CWM then I wouldn't have a problem with flashing, if you can provide links to help me that would be great, thank you.
Btw...I really appreciate the help, its nice to know someone cares that my phone is playing up (the screen)...its very hard to swallow the thought that i'm in this situation and I could be stuck with this phone.
To make life easy for you. Why not flash the firmware using ODIN which will take you back to stock.
You can then either re-root, or return the device
I suggest you find KJ4 from that site I linked to, as we know it can be rooted without any issues. You can always update if you want to keep the Note.
I strongly recommend that you root using Chainfire's method if/when you re-root. It will prevent your flash count increasing and also allows you to flash firmwares from the device without ODIN etc
Just have a read of his thread that I linked to. Read the first few posts very carefully a few times until you get the hang of it. It is very simple, it just sounds complicated.
nobnut said:
To make life easy for you. Why not flash the firmware using ODIN which will take you back to stock.
You can then either re-root, or return the device
I suggest you find KJ4 from that site I linked to, as we know it can be rooted without any issues. You can always update if you want to keep the Note.
I strongly recommend that you root using Chainfire's method if/when you re-root. It will prevent your flash count increasing and also allows you to flash firmwares from the device without ODIN etc
Just have a read of his thread that I linked to. Read the first few posts very carefully a few times until you get the hang of it. It is very simple, it just sounds complicated.
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Thanks, I shall give that a go
I tried to root through the odin method and I can get into CWM but when I install zip then reboot it stops at the SAMSUNG screen...any help will do I need my phone by tomorrow at the latest also Im with Best buy warranty so should I just break my phone and get another ?
Boot into recovety try data/cache wipe 3 times each then reboot.
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Also which rom are you trying to install?
What u running 2.3.5? Or 2.3.6?
IF 2.3.5 than i would unroot it and run 1click root.
GeezyF.Ladies said:
I tried to root through the odin method and I can get into CWM but when I install zip then reboot it stops at the SAMSUNG screen...any help will do I need my phone by tomorrow at the latest also Im with Best buy warranty so should I just break my phone and get another ?
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stock one from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1340526
appdroid said:
What u running 2.3.5? Or 2.3.6?
IF 2.3.5 than i would unroot it and run 1click root.
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2.3.6 yeah I've heard one click is awesome
Your able to get into recovery? So as i said boot into recovery wipe data/cache 3 times then reboot. If still no go flash the stock tar with odin again and reroot. You could also try just flashing the stock recovery.tar and boot into it. Then wipe data, and cache. Then reboot
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Your able to get into recovery? So as i said boot into recovery wipe data/cache 3 times then reboot. If still no go flash the stock tar with odin again and reroot. You could also try just flashing the stock recovery.tar and boot into it. Then wipe data, and cache. Then reboot
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k tried the data/cache 3 times each and rebooted and nothing. well how do I put stock tar on my sd card if I cant get my phone on to connect with my pc storage ?
The stock tar you need to put on your pc. And you need to get your phone into download mode. You use odin on you pc with your phone in download mode. To flash the stock recovery tar. To be honest you need to just use odin to reflash the stock tar. Again. Go to the thread woth the stock tar and follow the instructions again
haha duh on my part I was just so scared that I panicked but its downloading now and im going to try and flash back to stock when it is done. thanks for your patience/help slvwrx.....upon more research I think I got a bad recovery tar bc I cant open it its just a white page with a folded corner and I think I saw someone with this problem in the thread and said you have to extract zip
any other ideas ?
anyone get tar files from another site because when I try to open mine they all say cannot open file does not seem to be a valid archive.
You cannot be serious with these questions? You don't open the tar file you put it in Odin. You really need to put some effort into researching what you are trying to do with your phone. Your lack of prior research is why you are having problems. Not trying to be an ahole but you really need to READ everything in these forums before you try to do anything to your phone or you seriously risk bricking it and not being able to recover it. It is nearly impossible to brick these phones but if you have not done the requisite research here then you will end up in essence with a brick because you have no clue how to recover it from your own mistakes. I read these forums for a solid week before I even connected my phone to my laptop and I am an IT Engineer but that doesn't make me an Android expert so I learned from the awesome people here that know more than I and are freely willing to share their knowledge. Take my word for it any/all information you would ever need to fix your phone is all right here for the reading courtesy of the great devs and enthusiasts here on the site.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I957 using XDA App
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You cannot be serious with these questions? You don't open the tar file you put it in Odin. You really need to put some effort into researching what you are trying to do with your phone. Your lack of prior research is why you are having problems. Not trying to be an ahole but you really need to READ everything in these forums before you try to do anything to your phone or you seriously risk bricking it and not being able to recover it. It is nearly impossible to brick these phones but if you have not done the requisite research here then you will end up in essence with a brick because you have no clue how to recover it from your own mistakes. I read these forums for a solid week before I even connected my phone to my laptop and I am an IT Engineer but that doesn't make me an Android expert so I learned from the awesome people here that know more than I and are freely willing to share their knowledge. Take my word for it any/all information you would ever need to fix your phone is all wright here for the reading courtesy of the great devs and enthusiasts here on the site.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I957 using XDA App
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any criticism is good criticism to me thanks for giving me the cold hard facts and to be truthful I did jump into this early coming from an iphone 4 and all the ones before that and jailbreaking them I thought it'd be easy and it was I just 2nd guess myself all the time. my mistake was following the vid a ruebarb posted in the thread and I followed it to a T .it wasnt till he updated his video and said that his method was for ''already'' rooted users so after getting konane's stock tar flashed in odin I was back to stock re-did the 2.3.6 method got it done stayed stock rooted for 2 days then just about 30 mins ago I went head and jumped on RED SONIA!
again thanks for your input and to care enough to set a noob stright
also Cdshep pretty much found the problem after having a personal chat with me he saw what I was trying to say I'm just not really good with wording or spelling I just recently winged myself of of concerta(ADHD pills) and so my mind moves faster than I can type or right and I confuse myself but its better than the life of a zombie!
Im on 6.0.1 and i do not like it at all. Always been a fan of 5.1.1. I use odin to attempt a downgrade and it fails. Gives me the SW check, fail error every time. Also when i used flashfire itd work throughly and show the note 5 boot logo but thatd be all. Any help for me here? Really wanna go back to 5.1.1. Was able to get back on a rom and here i am. Hopefully someone can help me here.
If someone has a way to do this
If someone has any insight and links files to do this, please help me. Have not had a sammy since the note 2 so some of this is kinda new for me. Reason for wamtomg lollipop is i love lollipop over MM. Plus more rom options.
I had a similar problem. Rooted, could flash custom ROM's but couldn't ODIN flash back to stock. Found if I used the PAC from this site http://dl.samfirm.net/page/2 I could muscle through the flash. The PAC forced the PIT file, which formats the memory, unlike what recovery can do. Be sure all your files are backed-up because this will erase everything nd return your phone to stock (except knox).
They may charge a few dollars to download, but well worth it in my experience.
audscott said:
I had a similar problem. Rooted, could flash custom ROM's but couldn't ODIN flash back to stock. Found if I used the PAC from this site http://dl.samfirm.net/page/2 I could muscle through the flash. The PAC forced the PIT file, which formats the memory, unlike what recovery can do. Be sure all your files are backed-up because this will erase everything nd return your phone to stock (except knox).
They may charge a few dollars to download, but well worth it in my experience.
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Thanks! So i can do this to revert t9 5.1.1? Could you possibly mirror the files incase it does cost some $? I ask because im currently broke with i think $1 to my name and no access to online banking. Ohhh the joys of adulthood and bills hahaha
audscott said:
I had a similar problem. Rooted, could flash custom ROM's but couldn't ODIN flash back to stock. Found if I used the PAC from this site http://dl.samfirm.net/page/2 I could muscle through the flash. The PAC forced the PIT file, which formats the memory, unlike what recovery can do. Be sure all your files are backed-up because this will erase everything nd return your phone to stock (except knox).
They may charge a few dollars to download, but well worth it in my experience.
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The PAC wont let me download i was able to get the pit however. Anychance you have the pac on a dropbox or something? Please and thankyou in advance