Hi everyone
I am a noob so be nice to me. I accidently cracked the screen on my Samsung Vibrant and so have a few questions about how to return the phone back to Stock/unrooted (just like befor i flashed). I am fine if i have to lose my contacts, apps. ect...
Background:
I rooted my phone with One-Click-Root/Unroot from XDA (loved it). I then flashed the latest Nero 5.0 ROM from Team Wiskey (Love it). As part of either the root or flashing the ROM(i can't remember which one), I downloaded "ROM Manager" with CWR.
Q #1: Is it as easy returning to stock ROM as just using "Flashing ClockworkMod Recovery" or should I have used "nandroid" (don't know what it does, but I see it talked about) also?
Q #2: I hear people say that you need Odin to return back to stock ROM, but then I hear that is ONLY if you don't have ROM Manager w/CWR. Do I need Odin or do I only need ROM Manager w/CWR?
Q #3: If all I need is ROM Manager w/CWR and it returnes back to what it was before i flashed, can i just us the "Unroot" button on the One-Click-Root/Unroot"?
Q #4(Last Question): Will I recieve OTA's if I have to us Odin and flash a stock ROM, how do I get back to stock and recieveing OTA's?
I understand that there are alot of posts asking how to return to stock but that is from people where something in the programs went wrong when trying to return to stock. I am just wondering what programs (other than ROM Manager and CWR) are need for me to return to stock? Please help, I don't want my phone to be rejected because my warranty is void. Thanks
Noob123
All thats needed to return to stock is a Nandroid backup of your original ROM.
Oh wait.....
Why do people totally fail at this?
What you need now is an original ROM for your device and then flash it from recovery.
So in other words, I need to download a 2.1 Rom (last version i had) from somewhere back on to my computer and then do the same things that i did to flash Nero 5? Is that where Odin comes in? OR, would CWR already have that ROM and everything all in one package?
Like I said, I am a nook. I am suprised that i didnt brick my phone rooting and flashing a ROM the first time. I may be pushing my luck going back to stock. But, it needs to be done if i want my phone fixed.
I would have a look HERE, in the Samsung Vibrant forum. I'm sure you'll find an Official ROM to Flash somewhere in there.
You would just put the .zip on your SD card, restart to Recovery and select the option to Flash from SD
Okay, i am getting it now. However, wont the "Update.zip" (Nero 5.0) be there on my SD memory already? Will i damage my phone if i delete the "Update.zip" and put in the Stock.zip (then do the recovery thing)? So once i get the Stock ROM uploaded on my phone, can i just use the one-click-unroot (from XDA) to have my phone be unrooted and new just like it was when i bought the phone? Will i get OTA's?
Thank you for your help, i am sorry for bugging you but i feel like i am starting to understand it more. These are probably the last questions that i have....probably
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Hey huys, Im coming from the vibrant to att captivate, tmobile vibrant was very simple to flash with rom manager can I do that with the captivate as well?
The only thing rom manager is good for is making the first update.zip with cwm for flashing a rom from stock, otherwise if you are on a custom rom it really isn't needed at all as all of the roms have an extended power many to boot into cwm recovery and from there it is the exact same process...
Kool thanks it seems that this is the only way I can do it coming from stock. Because if I press all three buttoms to throw me into clock recovery when I hit reinstall packages it tells me the signature fail so im going to use rom manager hopefully I don't brick my phone wish me luck. By the way incase I brick my phone ia there a way to odin back to stock and if there is can you guide me where I can get those files
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Kool thanks it seems that this is the only way I can do it coming from stock. Because if I press all three buttoms to throw me into clock recovery when I hit reinstall packages it tells me the signature fail so im going to use rom manager hopefully I don't brick my phone wish me luck. By the way incase I brick my phone ia there a way to odin back to stock and if there is can you guide me where I can get those files
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Rom manager won't do you any good either. You need to look up 3e recovery and fix the signature problem
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cal4877 said:
Kool thanks it seems that this is the only way I can do it coming from stock. Because if I press all three buttoms to throw me into clock recovery when I hit reinstall packages it tells me the signature fail so im going to use rom manager hopefully I don't brick my phone wish me luck. By the way incase I brick my phone ia there a way to odin back to stock and if there is can you guide me where I can get those files
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Oh!! You are on stock 2.2 it won't work. Do a search for 3e recovery signing, all update.zip files have to be digitally signed to work, there is a fix where that is no longer required. Or since I'm guessing you have the update.zip already you could use odin to get back to 2.1 which had 2e recovery and not have to fix the 3e or need to root for rom manager to work either.
Edit: pirate you are a ghost slipping in invisibly while I'm replying
Is a virgin phone stock 2.2 just rooted by super one click. Where can I get the file to fix the signature
umm you could have used the search function and had it by now...
in any case its in this thread... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=909213
how many times is this rom manager/3e question going to be asked TODAY? im counting 3 sofar.
i answered the other 2.
and im up to 6 this week. all new threads..
At least he's not hellbent on flashing cm7.
I haven't posted much on here but I have been reading since June/July. I had this problem but found the answer thanks to the search feature. That is why I didn't even flash a rom until a week ago. I wanted to be informed, understand how everything works, etc. Thanks to all of you devs. for your hard work!
I read on another thread here on this site and was going to ask this question there but since I don't have enough posts.
I know how to Use ODIN to flash my Samsung Epic back to stock. However, I have upgraded to 2.2 by placing the update.zip file on the root memory card and upgraded by booting into recovery mode.
My question is can I use Odin to flash it back to stock or will it screw something up?
Oh well
since no one knows the answer I guess I will just try and see if it screws up my phone..
You need to get a special version of Odin called "One Click to Stock". It's been specially modified to flash a stock AT&T ROM to your phone with (as expected) just one click.
thank you
I appreciate the response. I used the standard ODIN, PIT and TAR files and was able to return to stock with the latest release. It seems to have worked because it downloaded updates immediately. Thank you again for the response.
New to Android, about 3 weeks now with my Rogers 1727R. I've been trying to grab all the good files and build my understanding of returning my phone to it's stock ROM if I have to return it or if I brick it etc. But I seem to have downloaded, from this forum, so many files, with different names and files sizes, I'm confused about what does what. So I'm asking any senior people here if they can tell me what I have, what it does, and whether I need it. Here goes:
Stock_ROM_SGH-I727R-UCKJ2-k0nane.7z - Think this is a stock ROM but un-bloated. It's 257 MB.
i727_stock_kernel_odin.tar - It's 10 MB, appears to be a stock AT&T ROM, but perhaps just the kernel, not the whole ROM?
Stock Recovery.tar - It's 6.08 MB. Downloaded it today.
Nandroid backup - 841 Megs with data.ext4.tar, system.ext4.tar, boot.img and recovery.img which I thought was a complete image of my ROM.
Look at the size differences. From 6 MB up to 841 MB. What the heck are all these files?
please dont cross-post.....
I was wondering the same thing. I rooted my Skyrocket but in the instance that ICS is available before more custom roms, I may want to unroot. I can't find much information on this. Only how to root for which there is good information and tutorial videos. The size of the different recovery files seems to vary quite a bit.
You do not.need to unroot to take an ota update. You just cant delete any bloat. And gota have stock recovery..... so freeze bloat dont delete. But if you do you can always odin the stock tar
I thought when you flash ClockWorkMod (recovery.tar) that that replaces your stock recovery. Or do you still have the stock recovery just with CWM added?
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I thought when you flash ClockWorkMod (recovery.tar) that that replaces your stock recovery. Or do you still have the stock recovery just with CWM added?
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Yes when you flash CWM you replace stock, do not take an update if you are using CWM, flash back to stock recovery first if you think you just have to have the #.#.2 instead of the #.#.1, to me its not worth it. Once I flash I don't go back to stock. The developers here are amazing.
@ harry_fine, be careful, or you are going to end up with a $200 paper weight. I know how confusing this stuff looks when you first start. Do you're research, make a plan before downloading random stuff you know nothing about. I like to play it safe. I read the posts in the developers section a few times a day for a week before I even start to flash a phone. Most all developers that post things give a very in depth description of what it is they are making available READ IT ALL, and follow directions posted. If i see something that looks interesting I just let it sit a couple days and read what people post about it. If all seems good and there are no major problems I give it a try if not ill let it pass. I have yet to brick a phone (knock on wood). I hope this helps.
BTW
Stock_ROM_SGH-I727R-UCKJ2-k0nane.7z -its a ROM, the post where you got it should tell you whats in it
i727_stock_kernel_odin.tar - this is a stock kernel, I like to think of them as drivers for you phone, install with odin
Stock Recovery.tar - this is a stock recovery you need this if you have installed CWM but want to instal an update, install with odin
Nandroid backup - this is something you should make using CWM before you start flashing a ROM just encase the ROM jacks up you phone you can reinstall
Thanks for explaining that. I am still trying to get the hang of everything myself. I read the Rooting instructions and watched several how to videos before I even considered taking the plunge. I am still a little confused about some of the terminology but I am learning by the day.
The only reason I would consider going back to stock would be if ICS is available before CM7 or CM9 on Skyrocket and then I would want to try it out.
So, if I were to flash back to "stock recovery.tar" (Does the name matter at all?) and take the update, that would would mean I was unrooted again right? Then I would undergo the same procedure to flash cwm and then Superuser?
If I use a custom kernal can that stay the same or does it need to be stock as well before installing an update or new rom?
I don't pay that much attention to the "return to stock threads" since I would never risk it for an update, even ICS, but from what I understand If you wanted to take the update you would need to put the stock recovery (name may not matter but why risk it) and stock kernel back in. You would still be rooted, and need only install CWM if you wanted to instal another ROM later. I think. If I am wrong someone will correct me, but that should be that.
Then how does one completely unroot if they wanted (or needed) to?
To unroot you odin the stock tar
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The stock tar in the unroot reaturn to stock fix soft brick thread. Is the factory firmware the phone comes with.....stock recovery not rooted
Hello there guy's I'm new with rooted charge phones. Well guy's last night I did a stupid thing with my phone.. I accidentally updates my phone with the new OTA FP1 with rooted rom. Well guy's now my phone is screwing up.
So I followed few steps on at XDA.. How to fix my phone.. So I got my phone on stock rom and also I got the new update OTA FP1.
Well guy's I need some help on rooting this phone with the new update stock OTA FP1 rom.
The person who help me on rooting my phones he left to a church mission at south Africa.
Could any one please guide me on steps on rooting this phone on the new stock Rom (FP1) rooted also includes radios, kernel.
Please I need help guides steps with this phone issues because I'm not great person on rooting.
Sent from my SCH-I510 using xda premium
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Hello there guy's I'm new with rooted charge phones. Well guy's last night I did a stupid thing with my phone.. I accidentally updates my phone with the new OTA FP1 with rooted rom. Well guy's now my phone is screwing up.
So I followed few steps on at XDA.. How to fix my phone.. So I got my phone on stock rom and also I got the new update OTA FP1.
Well guy's I need some help on rooting this phone with the new update stock OTA FP1 rom.
The person who help me on rooting my phones he left to a church mission at south Africa.
Could any one please guide me on steps on rooting this phone on the new stock Rom (FP1) rooted also includes radios, kernel.
Please I need help guides steps with this phone issues because I'm not great person on rooting.
Sent from my SCH-I510 using xda premium
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Follow direction #5:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1560117
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I was fuclking frustrated when trying to CWM / ROOT / CUSTOM rom my charge.
I have rooted and installed more roms than i can shake a stick at with my other phones.
But the lack of information on sooooo many of the dev threads that leave out soooooooooooooooooooooooo much info made my head spin.
First of all.
Odin is a program that you can install clockword mod with, as well as some custom roms.
Clockwork mod is a recovery / install tool that you install to be able to install custom roms and packages.
Even installing clockwork mod is a hassle, often you have to install it with odin and select, dont auto reboot. then pull the usb and then the battery.. then you have to hit the VolumeUp button + power + home to get into cwm.. and hopefully it will stick..
Once you get cwm installed you have to download a rom..
There are many of them, i went with a package that you load via odin instead of installing from clockwork mod.
i went with a package that was a stock 2.3.6 with root.
after i installed it, it was recommended that you wipe devlink cache, system cache.
finally after i rebooted i finally had a rom that was rooted.
This was after 2+ hours of searching through threads, downloading way too much crap and swearing at my computer for the lack of quality directions.
Usually XDA is rife with STICKYS that are easy to follow.
The charge forum is quite the opposite.
If i was not tired / drunk and frustrated i would post a correct HOW TO thread.. that i would imagine would not get stickied.
sprintrjm said:
I was fuclking frustrated when trying to CWM / ROOT / CUSTOM rom my charge.
I have rooted and installed more roms than i can shake a stick at with my other phones.
But the lack of information on sooooo many of the dev threads that leave out soooooooooooooooooooooooo much info made my head spin.
First of all.
Odin is a program that you can install clockword mod with, as well as some custom roms.
Clockwork mod is a recovery / install tool that you install to be able to install custom roms and packages.
Even installing clockwork mod is a hassle, often you have to install it with odin and select, dont auto reboot. then pull the usb and then the battery.. then you have to hit the VolumeUp button + power + home to get into cwm.. and hopefully it will stick..
Once you get cwm installed you have to download a rom..
There are many of them, i went with a package that you load via odin instead of installing from clockwork mod.
i went with a package that was a stock 2.3.6 with root.
after i installed it, it was recommended that you wipe devlink cache, system cache.
finally after i rebooted i finally had a rom that was rooted.
This was after 2+ hours of searching through threads, downloading way too much crap and swearing at my computer for the lack of quality directions.
Usually XDA is rife with STICKYS that are easy to follow.
The charge forum is quite the opposite.
If i was not tired / drunk and frustrated i would post a correct HOW TO thread.. that i would imagine would not get stickied.
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Hey bro, no need to get frustrated, you tried too hard to learn all at once. Let talk about what you have on your phone and what you want to achieve? I will take you through step by step.
Another thing I want to clear with you about Odin and CWM. They both are two useful tools to flash rom/kernel etc.. If kernel or full rom image are created in a ZIP format or extension, you use cwm. If a rom/kernel created in a MD5 format or extension, you would use Odin.
For example; the new FP1 kernel was made in both format so you have a choice to use either to flash.
Summary:
1. If the file ended with ZIP extension like "FP1_kernel.ZIP", you would use CWM to flash.
2. If the file ended with MD5 extension like "FP1_kernel.MD5", then you would use Odin to flash.
In order to use cwm, it has to be installed on your phone. cwm was created in MD5 extension, so you need to use Odin to install cwm to your phone. Once cwm installed on your phone, in order to access it, you need to hold Vol up+home+power button to get to it, then you can use it to flash zip file.
Odin is an execution PC file (.exe), you download and install on your PC and it used to flash MD5 file. In order for Odin to talk to your phone, you have to put your phone in "download mode". By remove battery, plug in usb cable between your PC and phone, press Vol down button, this will put your phone in download mode, now you re insert battery back to ensure a stable data transfer between your PC and phone. Without put back battery, data transfer may fail. After this, Odin is ready to flash Md5 file to your phone.
Like I said, let me know what's on your phone and what you want to achieve, I can help you step by step to get it done. After you have some practice, you will understand what involved and how to use them. Cheers!!!
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yeah.. i should have just read through the forums a day or so to figure out the odin / rooting / rom process for this phone.
But i am a seasoned vet in the android world and got pretty frustrated, mainly because a few of the other xda forums made me a little jaded by the process.
I have a fully functioning 2.3.6 rooted charge with CWM and the edited build prop to keep the Unwanted ota updates from bugging me.
Thanks for not flaming the f-out of me.
BTW have yall come across a thread about sandblasting or sandpapering the back cover of the phone to make it less slippery? I have sweaty f-ing hand, i know gross, but its a slippery phone for me.
sprintrjm said:
yeah.. i should have just read through the forums a day or so to figure out the odin / rooting / rom process for this phone.
But i am a seasoned vet in the android world and got pretty frustrated, mainly because a few of the other xda forums made me a little jaded by the process.
I have a fully functioning 2.3.6 rooted charge with CWM and the edited build prop to keep the Unwanted ota updates from bugging me.
Thanks for not flaming the f-out of me.
BTW have yall come across a thread about sandblasting or sandpapering the back cover of the phone to make it less slippery? I have sweaty f-ing hand, i know gross, but its a slippery phone for me.
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Not a problem, you can get a back cover from ebay for a few bucks and it will do the trick.
Seems like you already knew how to handle cwm, why don't you flash (using cwm) FP1 eclipse rom, kernel and radio, so you will be on the latest O/S?
Question regarding Odin 3.07 and CWM v6
I rooted my S3 2 days ago via Odin. Last night I tried to flash CM10 and ended up with the "Please report to the principals office" message from Verizon. I was able to Odin back to the stock root, reload recovery, and get back to normal. Lesson learned! Double check everything, then flash!
It got me thinking however, If I copy my recovery files to the desktop, if that were to happen again, can I just flash a recovery file through Odin and get right back to before the brick? Yes, No? (And if you dont mind taking a second, Why? for learning purposes)
I am very very new at this. I have been flashing my A500 tab for about a year but out of 3 Android phones this is the first I have ever rooted.
Thanks for any and all advice.
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Question regarding Odin 3.07 and CWM v6
I rooted my S3 2 days ago via Odin. Last night I tried to flash CM10 and ended up with the "Please report to the principals office" message from Verizon. I was able to Odin back to the stock root, reload recovery, and get back to normal. Lesson learned! Double check everything, then flash!
It got me thinking however, If I copy my recovery files to the desktop, if that were to happen again, can I just flash a recovery file through Odin and get right back to before the brick? Yes, No? (And if you dont mind taking a second, Why? for learning purposes)
I am very very new at this. I have been flashing my A500 tab for about a year but out of 3 Android phones this is the first I have ever rooted.
Thanks for any and all advice.
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You go me thinking and wondering the same thing. First, I think flashing anything other then the stock image trips the counter on the phone. Second, the only thing that pops up in pda mode is the md5 file called nandroid and im not sure if that file would push the rest of the backup images?
So far what I do KNOW is you could save the files on you computer (before you have a problem, of course), later on when you soft brick the device -> flash with odin the stock image, root phone (using gs3-debugfs-root_r2 is the easiest way to root IMO), flash CWM and then push the folder back into clockwork mod! not too much touble to do it that way just takes some time.
that's pretty much what I did.