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Q) Need advice in choosing my next phone

Hello there!
Currently, I'm in possession of a Motorola Milestone. Great phone, but the slightly outdated RAM, crappy update support and locked bootloader made me crave for a new phone. With all the new stuff coming out this year, I'm not entirely sure of my decision. Because of the great hardware specs (dualcore processor, 1GB RAM etc.) the Galaxy S2 I9100 pulled my interest. But I'm not entirely sure if a non-TouchWIZ UI custom ROM can be installed, and if not, I'm wondering wether the Touchwiz provides a android-worthy experience. Any thoughts on this?
The most important thing is that my new smartphone will stay relevant for a good while. With my Milestone (which I bought way too late anyway) I couldn't run games like Dungeon Defenders, which has been released a few months after buying this phone.
Any advice from the experts would be greatly appreciated.
Edit: A Tegra 2 processor seems attractive, is this processor worthwhile?

Wait for the HTC Sensation
Dual core CPU @ 1.2 GHz,Tegra 2 procesor,1080p recording,1GB of RAM,4.3" screen and a resolution "Retina" like,its actually a qHD LCD screen

I'd go with the Droid Bionic!

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I'd go with the Droid Bionic!
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reflexEagle said:
Wait for the HTC Sensation
Dual core CPU @ 1.2 GHz,Tegra 2 procesor,1080p recording,1GB of RAM,4.3" screen and a resolution "Retina" like,its actually a qHD LCD screen
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Well, I live in Europe so I need go with a GSM phone so Droid Bionic wouldn't do the job I'm afraid. Thanks for the advice though
I was interested in the HTC Pyramid/Sensation as well indeed, but heard negative rumors about the processor not catching up with other phones or something?
Edit: Also found out Sensation has 768MB of RAM, not that it's a huge difference or anything ;p

Well Sensation is a very good device but also HTC Evo 3D is pretty good if you like the 3D expirience without glasses

The Sensation won't have the Tegra. HTC is using the dual core Qualcomm CPU listed a 1.2GHz.
This is taken from Phonearena.com:
"HTC Sensation comes with a fresh serving of Android 2.3 Gingerbread, but it's all about the HTC Sense UI version 3.0 with a touch of refinement and functionality straight from the lock screen. You can choose between a number of lock screen options such as weather updates, quick access to apps and a handful of clock widgets. A 1.2GHz Qualcomm dual-core chipset supports the nice 3D-like transitions in the menu, all carrying resemblance to the ones on the HTC Flyer tablet. The phone is the first with a contoured glass 4.3-inch display meaning that your Super LCD screen is set back slightly to avoid scratches. The resolution is qHD (540x960) with an aspect ratio of 16:9. On the back you have an 8MP camera with dual-LED flash with “instant capture,” meaning little to no lag between pictures. The camera is also capable of recording video at 30fps in full HD (1080p) resolution."

I personally suggest the SGS2 for you, the new touchwiz seems to bring all of our favorite launcher features and some interesting widgets. It looks like a nice phone, (button seems lame tho) I say you can't go wrong with anything HTC, Samsung is pretty good hardware, software is lacking though, but that's what our lovely DEVS are for. And stay away from moto, they are just....They did horrible things to the xoom...horrible things. It could have been sooo much more... Anywayyy..
Hope this helps

This surely helps, thanks for the advice! Although I'm even more unsure of my choice, because of the new phones you guys suggested
Evo 3D comes out in Europe as well, which is great, just not sure of the battery life with 3D effect? and will it effect performance of the phone itself?
Also thanks moderator for moving my thread to the correct subforum.

I'm very skeptical about all this 3d hype. 3d screens seems to utilize the same technology that is behind 3DS, which causes nausea, headaches and some people are just unable to see it.
If i was considering buying a new android phone, i'd come up with a budget i'd like to spend and selected the phone that i find visually most attractive. Since they most likely to be priced competitevely, you can't make a too much of an error this way, and dual core 1.2 GHz processors will surely be an overkill for most applications except most advanced 3d games in closest 6-12 months IMO.

[Q] Galaxy Nexus or Galaxy S II?

So I have an iPhone 4S right now.
Long story short, I switched from iPhone 4 to Droid X2. Hated how sluggish the X2 was but LOVED the openness of Android. And returned it and switched to the 4S when it arrived.
I love the look of Ice Cream Sandwich and every preview shows it running incredibly smoothly. It felt as though Android was in beta before ICS, and that it's finally moved into Gold product stage.
I'm dying waiting for the Nexus and mainly want it because it will have Ice Cream Sandwich.
My question is, should I just get the Galaxy S II or should I wait another few weeks for the Nexus? I don't care that much about 4G LTE. I DO want ICS. I've been reading the forums and it seems the S II is closing to get an ICS ROM that's fully functional.
What does everyone think? Get the S II today or wait a few more weeks for the Nexus?

2 days ago I would have said get the SII. But as full reviews are coming out now, I would definitely wait for the Nexus. Other than ICS, it is reviewed as an all around better phone (minus the camera, which is better on the SII). I do not own an SII, but you are going to get some disgustingly bias comments from people who do. Like I said, I am basing this off of reviews from reputable sites.

Thanks!
I'm very tempted by the Nexus (and the reviews are awesome!) I just have no idea when it's going to arrive. This month? December 8?
I'm very tempted by the S II because I'm hearing it runs pretty much as well as the Nexus, ICS is almost ready to be released (through ROMs, I'm sure the "official" release is a ways away), and it's cheaper.
Tough decision. I'm tired of iOS though and want to move on to a grown up OS. I just don't want to keep waiting. Argh.

Yes I'm bias I own an SGS2 but just check the specs out, lower spec camera, amoled not amoled+, no guerilla glass! The only real plus the Nexus Galaxy has is vanilla ICS and the SGS2 will have ICS soon enough whether it be Sammy ICS or custom ROM ICS.
Look at the price difference for lower specs, are you willing to pay that much more just to have ICS early??
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JayJ-1974 said:
Yes I'm bias I own an SGS2 but just check the specs out, lower spec camera, amoled not amoled+, no guerilla glass! The only real plus the Nexus Galaxy has is vanilla ICS and the SGS2 will have ICS soon enough whether it be Sammy ICS or custom ROM ICS.
Look at the price difference for lower specs, are you willing to pay that much more just to have ICS early??
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Better hardware, better software, better CPU, and I will quote the part about the display
"The other significant thing about the screen is its resolution. It’s a 720p HD Super AMOLED panel (full resolution 1280x720), similar to the display on the Samsung Galaxy Note. And just as we said in our review of that phone, this is about as good as it gets in terms of display technology on a portable device."
The only thing lower spec is the camera...this is a developer phone, who cares about the camera.

SGSII is better. The processor in the Galaxy Nexus is not as good as the ones in the world SGS2 or the Epic Touch. The only thing this phone has really is the higher resolution screen. Tit for tat it's ok, but not ground-breaking.
Why 5MP camera on a higher res than throwing in a better 8MP camera like the one on the SGS2
Plus the hype about the phone, and the true specs were a let down just to be able to run ICS. And as far as vanilla android all of the other makers have the ability to run stock android with out the company's UI.

I have used a Galaxy Nexus and the only thing I liked was the incredible screen. The rest was crap...including ICS.
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Hey, I am just going off of reviews from well known sites THAT HAVE TRIED BOTH PHONES! Until someone else chimes in that has in fact used both phones for more than 24 hours, your argument holds no ground. I have taken probably a total of 15 pictures with my phone in the past year, so I could really care less about the camera..

More reasons not to go with the Nexus, 16gb USB storage and NO SD card expansion.
No flash until Adobe support it later in the year!?!
And I meant SAMOLED and SAMOLED+.
FreeYourAndroid - Galaxy Nexus vs. SGS2: Camera Comparison - http://freeyourandroid.com/viewnews.php?fya=54932841321744858
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The question for me, I guess, is how close are we to having a working custom ICS rom for the S II? I like the specs of the S II better, and would prefer the smaller screen - I think 4.65" is pretty big.
I just want to be able to have ICS and not have to wait months and months for the Samsung official update with everything skinned. I want Vanilla android or something close to it, but would love it on the S II.

Interesting thread !
Since I keep questionning myself about the very same question at the moment, I'm constantly doing prons and cons game
Here is my observations so far :
Screen
Galaxy S II : smaller screen (4.3") but S-Amoled Plus and Gorilla Glass. No waste of screen since it got hardware buttons
Galaxy Nexus : bigger (4.6") not "plus" but more DPI and 720p, everyone accords to qualify it to sharper. Good for visioning (films etc)
CPU / GPU
Since the two got the same CPU (Cortex A9 dual core), let's take a look a the GPU
SGS2 : Mali 400Mp, strong for graphic features
SGN : PowerVR SGX540, not so good with graphic features
Here is a beanchmark comparison : http://www.anandtech.com/show/5133/galaxy-nexus-ice-cream-sandwich-initial-performance
The choice of Google seems to go for user experience (general use, browsing etc). I don't think le GN is tailored to be a gaming beast for example
Hardware
The SGN doesn't have any micro-SD slot and can't do mass storage out of the box (but XDA dev are here for sure ), it's a Google choice to unify the storage : http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...behind-galaxy-nexus-lack-of-usb-mass-storage/
No notification LED for the SGS2 but got the jack above
Camera is better on SGS2 but since the captor on a mobile phone are not very good ... Can we really see a difference ?
So ?
So the choice is yours
The 2 devices are great, it really depends what you are seeking for
I don't speak about ICS since everyone here know it will come to the SGS2 soon
If you want a device for gaming, I say go for the SGS2
If you want a new device and a good big beautifull screen, pick the SGN
What do you think ?
EDIT : a usefull link to compare the 2 : http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3621&idPhone2=4219

VTHockey11 said:
The question for me, I guess, is how close are we to having a working custom ICS rom for the S II? I like the specs of the S II better, and would prefer the smaller screen - I think 4.65" is pretty big.
I just want to be able to have ICS and not have to wait months and months for the Samsung official update with everything skinned. I want Vanilla android or something close to it, but would love it on the S II.
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The 4.65 inch screen is a little misleading. Since there are no hardware buttons, the bottom part of the screen is dedicated for this. With that part of the screen gone, it is comparable to 4.3".

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The 4.65 inch screen is a little misleading. Since there are no hardware buttons, the bottom part of the screen is dedicated for this. With that part of the screen gone, it is comparable to 4.3".
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Yeah but the on screen buttons are hidden when you got a full screen app (videos, games, apps developpers set to fullscreen) so you got a real 4.65" screen for that

some food for thoughts about the Galaxy Nexus http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362556

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some food for thoughts about the Galaxy Nexus http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362556
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Yea, quite a bit of issues. But it is to be expected with a newly released phone, and the SGSII has many of the same issues. One note about the volume bug issue (which I hear is the most predominent issue). That would not affect users in the United States. It only happens on an Edge network running a certain frequency that is not supported here.

Get it
As a person who went through this, then thought screw it, I'll take the leap.
GET THE NEXUS
It is an amazing phone and in my opinion equally to the SGSII better taken into account the software.
My main point was- I don't like the SII I much prefer the look and shape of the Nexus.
However the main plus point is the Camera and stock android.
No lag at all with the camera and no crappy touchwiz meaning that you don't HAVE to root to get rid of it.

Google nexus won´t have ICS, SG S II yes.

Jaime. said:
Google nexus won´t have ICS, SG S II yes.
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Are you kidding with this post?

Galaxy Nexus vs Galaxy S2: Comparison reviews make me love my SGS2 even more

Like many others, I've been drooling over the Galaxy Nexus since it was announced. However, the more I read about it, the less interested I am to get one. At this point it seems that the only real upside to moving from the SGS2 to the Galaxy Nexus is ICS. But we all know there will be an ICS port available for the SGS2 within the upcoming months anyway, so that's a moot point.
Two comparison reviews I read:
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/42623/galaxy-nexus-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-2
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/comparisons/1098323/samsung_galaxy_nexus_vs_samsung_galaxy_s2.html
Considering that the Galaxy Nexus is larger, has an inferior screen (supposedly), and lacks the ability to upgrade the internal storage due to lack of an SD card slot, I'm really losing sight on the appeal for the Galaxy Nexus.
Are you still planning on upgrading to the Galaxy Nexus when it becomes available? If so, why?

Plus the Nexus only have a 5MP camera. One reason why I was considering the Nexus is because of the NFC technology Android Beam. I know a lot of people may need the extra space of a micro SD card slot, but a lot of people don't even have a micro SD card in their GS2 just because it doesn't come with one. Either way you go, you will be getting a good phone

Yeah, the 5mp camera appeared to be a turn off to me at first as well. But I have seen some comparison pictures taken with both phones and the 5mp camera on the Nexus does seem to be a bit clearer than the 8mp camera on the SGS2.
However, I don't typically choose a phone due to its camera. So this doesn't really matter to me.

Ya I was debating these two for awhile. I went Tmob GS2 and don't regret it one bit...better cpu, gpu, modem, SD card, camera, lighter, smaller, etc. For me a phone any larger than the GS2 and I not interested, it has taken some getting use to the larger size in my hand coming from a Nexus S.

I'm most likely going to own both of them. I love the nexus line of phones. Nothing like stock. They are both amazing from what I have seen and will decide which is better for myself after using both.
There is enough hate in the world. Why can't we all get along here ...?

sn0warmy said:
Two comparison reviews I read:
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/42623/galaxy-nexus-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-2
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/comparisons/1098323/samsung_galaxy_nexus_vs_samsung_galaxy_s2.html
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You do realize that both of those reviews are of the i9100, right? That phone is really a COMPLETELY different phone than the SGH-T989! There needs to be a comparison to the T-Mobile US version of the SGSII.
Considering that the Galaxy Nexus is larger
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The Nexus is larger in height but not width, it is in fact thinner in width.
, has an inferior screen (supposedly)
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Where the heck did you read that? Are you talking about Gorilla Glass? It has a reinforced glass, Google wouldn't let them put **** on their latest and greatest after the Nexus S flop
, and lacks the ability to upgrade the internal storage due to lack of an SD card slot
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Who uses more than 32GB?
Are you still planning on upgrading to the Galaxy Nexus when it becomes available? If so, why?
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YES. Because it is a Nexus. ICS. Updates BEFORE ANY OTHER PHONE GET'S THEM. Will have HUGE developer support. Best display available. There's more, can't think of them now.
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sn0warmy said:
Yeah, the 5mp camera appeared to be a turn off to me at first as well. But I have seen some comparison pictures taken with both phones and the 5mp camera on the Nexus does seem to be a bit clearer than the 8mp camera on the SGS2.
However, I don't typically choose a phone due to its camera. So this doesn't really matter to me.
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I agree totally. When I first read the stats with a 5mp camera first thought was, "why"? But I have too seen the comparisons. I'm willing to get they upgraded the optics. All that aside, I don't take many pictures with my phone. I use my camera for that so it's a minimal spec.
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wannagofast said:
Ya I was debating these two for awhile. I went Tmob GS2 and don't regret it one bit...better cpu, gpu, modem, SD card, camera, lighter, smaller, etc. For me a phone any larger than the GS2 and I not interested, it has taken some getting use to the larger size in my hand coming from a Nexus S.
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Hmmm...Better CPU - You sure? This CPU (TMO SGSII) is pain to do anything productive with.
GPU - Ok, may be a LITTLE better, but I doubt you would ever notice the difference. As far as I've read that GPU performs just fine for any game available on Android.
Modem - What are you talking about? The HSPA+ speed?
SD Card, yeah, talked about that already.
Lighter - Um, NO, they weigh the same.
Camera - More pixels means **** if the camera itself cant handle them.
ETC - What else? You say you can't handle a larger phone? I thought this thing was huge when I got it and wanted to go back to my Sensation but in time I grew to like the size. Just FYI, the Nexus is taller but skinnier. Thinner too by .6mm.

NFC Android Beam Correction
I didn't think the GS2 had NFC (Android Beam) but I was just reading the back of the box and it says it is NFC enabled, so maybe it does. This pushes the GS2 over the top imo.

There just isn't enough added to it besides ics for me to buy it!
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I didn't think the GS2 had NFC (Android Beam) but I was just reading the back of the box and it says it is NFC enabled, so maybe it does. This pushes the GS2 over the top imo.
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Menu>Settings>Wireless and network>Check NFC to enable.
Yes, the TMO SGSII has NFC.

The GN is better than TMO's SII in almost every way. The fact that its a 720p screen is such a big winner. 4.6' WVGA screen looked really bad to me. And I would take a TI-OMAP4 processor over Qualcomm's S3 processor any day of the week. Plus it's straight from Google. You save yourself the headache of wondering whether you're going to get the next Android firmware upgrade.
I bet the SII wont even officially get ICS until Q2 of next year, and that's probably after the SIII is released lol. Just like what happened with the first generation Galaxy S.
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Tmo sgs2 >>> GN
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There seems to be a lot of debate about which phone is better. Both have similar processors, one has an sd card slot and one doesnt, both have huge screens, nfc, comparable cameras.
Given that the phones are so similar, why not save around $200 and get the sgs2?

Someone who played with both they both have ups and downs.
Galaxy nexus: 720 resolution Everything looks nice and sharp. But at angles these are at angles you never hold your phone at. It looks green. Samsung galaxy s2 doesn't at any angle. Galaxy nexus wins here.
Galaxy nexus: Os Latest and greatest. But it doesn't matter at all does it. Your on xda your going to root and run cm 9 or miui ics. Besides both teams come out with better things than Google themselves anyway. (tie)
Internal storage goes to samsung galaxy s2. Sorry to say most people fill of 32 gigs with enough clockwork back ups including titanium back ups, music videos and pictures it is easy to fill it up. You can say otg but I rather only carry my phone around and not carry extra pieces.
Both camera take very good pictures. More megapixels does not mean better pictures. The galaxy nexus camera takes pictures instantly and panorama works flawlessly. The software for cameras has always been better from oems than google. It still is. Goes to samsung galaxy s2. Then again you can get applications that fix this as well for the galaxy nexus. (tie)
Processors: .... Texas instruments processors aren't the best. They have been in various Motorola phones. Droid line phones have moto blur. Which I believe is more taxing than sense. Not bad not the best either. Google has optimized the software around the processor before I'm pretty sure they have again.
Qualcomm: Once again is not the best not the worst. You get better battery life supposedly. I didn't get to play with gnex for than 5 hrs can't tell. I'm pretty sure the lte version battery last 4-5 hrs. From single qualcomm to dual core one i can guarantee you it is an improvement over the single core phone. Various reports said hspa+ gnexus was getting a day.
Exynos: Best processor out supposedly. Various reliable benchmark test prove so. But its really no different than any processors. What is it downfall. You have this ridiculous amount of power in a phone. Which in a year it be outdated. In two years. you won't even been using this processor. Probably an updated version or a totally different. Also by the way reliable means nothing I can get two thousand people to vouch for me or give a good opinion of me. Never produce nothing in the end that really matters. Not like applications can't run because you have a certain processor. Look at tegra 2 games can still run on other various devices.
For the people who saying Ti is better than qualcomm. The galaxy nexus build is probably like Optimized like over 5 times. Can't compare stock and touchwiz. Matter fact you can't even tell over the samsung galaxy s2 line. On gingerbread. Hard to tax the roms are heavily optimized and are little nothing more than 90-100mb.
Anyone that says they can see the difference in real life performance on custom roms like cm 9 and miui is a fan boy and its all in their head after they see benchmarks so they start to elude them selves from the truth. Real life performance is not what sites tell you. It is how you use the phone. It varies from person to person.
If your developer go for the galaxy nexus. If your a consumer go for the galaxy s2. Both phones do the samething. Both phones can have equally the same development if you know how to code. Your not losing out.

I find it hilarious that *XDA members* would give points to a phone just because it comes with the latest version of Android. It's like a mechanic complaining because another car has better spark plugs or something. ICS isn't a real selling point to anyone but clueless end-users, IMO.

I know its been said here but still... any time you read ANYTHING about the SGS2 they are talking about the i9100 which is a COMPLETELY different phone than out t989... besides the camera and the "sII" printed on the back, not much else is the same... just saying.
Sent from my Beastly SGS2!

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you should check this detailed list out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362556
sn0warmy said:
Like many others, I've been drooling over the Galaxy Nexus since it was announced. However, the more I read about it, the less interested I am to get one. At this point it seems that the only real upside to moving from the SGS2 to the Galaxy Nexus is ICS. But we all know there will be an ICS port available for the SGS2 within the upcoming months anyway, so that's a moot point.
Two comparison reviews I read:
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/42623/galaxy-nexus-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-2
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/comparisons/1098323/samsung_galaxy_nexus_vs_samsung_galaxy_s2.html
Considering that the Galaxy Nexus is larger, has an inferior screen (supposedly), and lacks the ability to upgrade the internal storage due to lack of an SD card slot, I'm really losing sight on the appeal for the Galaxy Nexus.
Are you still planning on upgrading to the Galaxy Nexus when it becomes available? If so, why?
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A lot of good insight here. One thing others have brought up, which I was not aware of, is that the TMO SGS2 is much different than the i9100 version. I knew the exterior was a bit different but I thought that was it. Are you saying that the T989 is inferior to the i9100? If so, in what ways?
jordanishere said:
There seems to be a lot of debate about which phone is better. Both have similar processors, one has an sd card slot and one doesnt, both have huge screens, nfc, comparable cameras.
Given that the phones are so similar, why not save around $200 and get the sgs2?
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That's my point. This is where I currently stand. I was ready to sell my SGS2 and pay an additional $250+ for the Galaxy Nexus sometime over the next couple of months. But at this point, it just doesn't seem worth it. Maybe sometime next year when it is readily available on T-Mobile and I am eligible to upgrade I will pick up a GN for around the same price I sell my SGS2 for, making it a wash.
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The below bug you listed would really drive me nuts:
software buttons bugs (mostly with apps that are not ICS ready)

sn0warmy said:
A lot of good insight here. One thing others have brought up, which I was not aware of, is that the TMO SGS2 is much different than the i9100 version. I knew the exterior was a bit different but I thought that was it. Are you saying that the T989 is inferior to the i9100? If so, in what ways?
That's my point. This is where I currently stand. I was ready to sell my SGS2 and pay an additional $250+ for the Galaxy Nexus sometime over the next couple of months. But at this point, it just doesn't seem worth it. Maybe sometime next year when it is readily available on T-Mobile and I am eligible to upgrade I will pick up a GN for around the same price I sell my SGS2 for, making it a wash.
The below bug you listed would really drive me nuts:
software buttons bugs (mostly with apps that are not ICS ready)
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Is is inferior but not quite like omg its just the original has better gpu and processor. But this version has better battery life. Ill trade off some power for better battery life anytime. All people do is over hype the processor which will eventually be outdated like every other processor. A everyday user for normal task it is easy. Even for a power user like me. Not a big deal. They act as if the t-mobile version is the bastard child of the family. Sure on stock touchwiz the original sg2 beats the tmobile version. But any other custom roms everything varies. You can never compare them because they are compiled from different sources. It is like comparing apples from different areas. They may look the same but they taste different.

When I got my phone, i was trying to choose between waiting for the galaxy nexus, get the iphone 4s, or get one of the SGS2 variants. I went with the SGH-T989. And after reading more about the Nexus, and playing around with friends' and family's iphone 4s, I'm pretty confident that I made the right decision.

Both phones have their positives and negatives.
The PenTile Super AMOLED HD vs. the Super AMOLED+ display is subjective. Some people like the higher resolution, some people would rather do without the green tint.
Both are NFC enabled, so that's a moot point, too.
About the processors: People in this thread seem to think that every single mobile SOC uses its own native ARM ISA. This is false. The TI OMAP 4460's processor and the processor in the Exynos (And for that matter, the Tegra 2's and the Apple A5's) are the same (Save for certain cases like NEON implementation, which most, but not all SOC's do. The Tegra 2 doesn't.) The Snapdragon's is not, as Qualcomm licenses the ability to design their own ARM based ISA from ARM Holdings (Think AMD and Intel). http://www.anandtech.com/show/3632/anands-google-nexus-one-review/9
Between Cortex-A9 SOC's, the difference in performance and benchmarks is either down to the GPU (The Exynos uses the Mali-400, the TI uses the PowerVR SGX 540, the Tegra 2 uses the Geforce ULP, and the A5 uses the PowerVR SGX543MP2), software optimization, clock rate, or certain cases where NEON would provide a benefit.
Performance per clock has the Cortex A9 leading the Snapdragon chip in most cases. This isn't Qualcomm's fault. The Snapdragon was never designed to compete with the A9, but rather, the A8. This is why benchmarks seem to have the T-Mobile SGSII coming in last place between the carrier variants. In real world performance, though, it's relatively a moot point. Most software is still being written for the 1GHz single core crowd. Any dual core device should remain hardware relevant for quite some time.
As far as GPU performance is concerned... the Adreno 220 /should/ be more powerful than the SGX540 the Galaxy Nexus uses, but software optimization can provide a key role here.
I've heard mixed views over the camera in the Galaxy Nexus. From what I've gathered, at its best, the camera can snap clearer, more color accurate shots than the SGSII at its best, but it's easier to take rubbish shots than the SGSII's. The resolution of the CMOS sensor means almost nothing in terms of raw image quality, and it's silly to compare cameras based on it.
The Galaxy Nexus doesn't use Gorilla Glass, but some sort of unknown manufacturer's "reenforced glass", like the Nexus S. I'll hold off until we hear some clear reports on how durable/scratch resistant this glass really is.
The biggest reason to go with the Galaxy Nexus would definitely be software updates, though. Obviously, it's the first phone with Ice Cream Sandwich, which is a massive improvement over Gingerbread in every way. And then, it will get consistent updates, as they are managed by Google instead of the manufacturer/carrier. (Remember how hard it was just to get an official Froyo on the US versions of the original Galaxy S?) Samsung claims that it's trying to clean up its act on that front, but it's not entirely up to them. It's up to the carriers, and they'd rather us sign onto new contracts with newer phones. We'll see.
There's no SD card slot on the Nexus. That's a big thing for most people.
Audio performance is interesting. The Yamaha DAC the Galaxy S II uses has been called a downgrade from the original Wolfson DAC the Galaxy/Nexus S used. I haven't heard reports on the Galaxy Nexus' DAC, so we'll just have to wait and see.
There will definitely be more ROM support for the Galaxy Nexus. Two reasons.
1. It's not split up into four (five?) different models, some of which have different hardware altogether.
2. AOSP Android. Everything running on the Galaxy Nexus has been open sourced from the beginning. (GAPPS excluded). Meaning there won't be any driver issues as per the SGSII.
If both phones were out right now and available for T-Mobile and I'd have to chose, I'd probably pick the Galaxy Nexus just for the ICS and ROM support. That's not to say I'm unhappy with my SGSII, but running a vastly superior version of Android and being able to tinker around with it that much more is worth it (to me) over my own personal preference for the non PenTile SAMOLED display and the Gorilla Glass.

If you had to change phones soon...

I liked the Charge, but having non stop issues day after day. Extremely poor call quality when the phone gets below 20%, M$ Exchange email doesnt work, calendar wont sync, data always disconnects, etc.
Made about a dozen calls and finally got a hold of a regional manager that is willing to help me out, or so he says. Told me he would be able to get me an early upgrade price so trying to decide what route to go.
Prior to being an android user, I had the iPhone from the first version and dropped the iPhone 4 back in July for the 4G device. Saved me some money from having to buy a 4G hotspot and a phone, plus iPhone was limited and couldn't handle a few things that I needed. Seems to be better, but its still a 3G phone.
New Nexus looks pretty good, but heard some things not so good about them. Is it better to wait as it seems new phones come out every week, or better to pull the trigger on the Nexus now?

bossku69 said:
I liked the Charge, but having non stop issues day after day. Extremely poor call quality when the phone gets below 20%, M$ Exchange email doesnt work, calendar wont sync, data always disconnects, etc.
Made about a dozen calls and finally got a hold of a regional manager that is willing to help me out, or so he says. Told me he would be able to get me an early upgrade price so trying to decide what route to go.
Prior to being an android user, I had the iPhone from the first version and dropped the iPhone 4 back in July for the 4G device. Saved me some money from having to buy a 4G hotspot and a phone, plus iPhone was limited and couldn't handle a few things that I needed. Seems to be better, but its still a 3G phone.
New Nexus looks pretty good, but heard some things not so good about them. Is it better to wait as it seems new phones come out every week, or better to pull the trigger on the Nexus now?
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TBH if it were me I'd just wait for the next big smartphone of Q1/Q2, they'll be as good or better spec-wise than the Nexus however you'll be missing out on the pure AOSP experience and timely updates... its not that important to me so I'll be doing this, I'm gonna probably pick up the next HTC superphone (a little tired of samsung now though I love their hardware)

I have the Galaxy Nexus right now and its the best phone I've ever had. Sure they're some minor problems with it like with any new device. But nothing at all that makes it unusable or annoying.
I wouldn't wait for phones that come out at CES 2012 because they won't be available until Q2 at least. Plus all the Quad Core phones will all have problems working the kinks out since they'll be brand new. Much like the Thunderbolt, Charge, Revolution, and the (first) Bionic.
So my advice is to go with the Nexus. Better experience, faster updates, best phone I ever came across. Makes the iPhone 4S look puny and not fun at all IMO of course
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If you have to change now, go for the Nexus. If you can wait some months, then wait.
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Best phone for flashers = Galaxy Nexus
Best phone for stock users = Droid Razr
its simple really...

blarrick said:
Best phone for flashers = Galaxy Nexus
Best phone for stock users = Droid Razr
its simple really...
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Why do you say the RAZR is better than the Rezound for stock users out of curiosity? I could have had either as my displacement and went with the Rezound because it appeared to be the better phone overall based on what I read.
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The Nexus is still better for stock users because it's the only one with ICS. The OS is far more intuitive and coherent than Gingerbread, and that's exactly what matters the most for those users.
The only pluses in general for the Razr versus the Nexus are its thinness (and it's not even a huge difference compared to the Nexus, it's much more noticeable compared to the chunktastic Rezound) and less-plasticky/more durable build (kevlar back, splash-proof coating, not made by Samsung).

With what I know from reading -- I'd go for the Nexus. ICS cannot be ignored, and couple that with the amazing AMOLED screens Samsung uses and you have a winner.
I believe ALL the phones have some quirks, you just have to make sure you can live with them.
The Charge was not considered a successful phone, it was the baddest mama jama when I bought mine in early June and though its not perfect, it got a breath of life when GB was released for it. Fixed most of my issues!

anoninja118 said:
TBH if it were me I'd just wait for the next big smartphone of Q1/Q2, they'll be as good or better spec-wise than the Nexus however you'll be missing out on the pure AOSP experience and timely updates... its not that important to me so I'll be doing this, I'm gonna probably pick up the next HTC superphone (a little tired of samsung now though I love their hardware)
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Hes actually right. If youre getting a new phone just wait for the next big phone. We have Tegra 3 coming to smartphones in Q1 and just look at the 12mp camera/quad-core phones running ICS coming just in the first 3 months of this year. Wait it out bro.

Nexus is the best phone out there right now. As for the issues you're having, if you want full Exchange support, get a Windows Phone, otherwise get Touchdown as that is the only way to have reliable Exchange support on Android. Really though, I think you'll find problems with your next phone too just based on the OP.
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I completely disagree with the majority here. The HTC Rezound is by far the superior phone. Its 720p IPS LCD screen is *true* HD, not Pentile, and current OLED tech suffers from color inaccuracy and oversaturation. The subpixel count on the GNex is about equal to most 800x480 phones.
The Rezound's Adreno 220 GPU is also superior. The Gnex's GPU is just the Charge's PowerVR SGX 540 with 50% overclock. A nice comparison here: http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2011...htc-flyer-htc-desire-hd-and-samsung-galaxy-s/
The Rezound's camera is also better, and it has "Beats Audio" (not sure if that's any good though).

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I completely disagree with the majority here. The HTC Rezound is by far the superior phone. Its 720p IPS LCD screen is *true* HD, not Pentile, and current OLED tech suffers from color inaccuracy and oversaturation. The subpixel count on the GNex is about equal to most 800x480 phones.
The Rezound's Adreno 220 GPU is also superior. The Gnex's GPU is just the Charge's PowerVR SGX 540 with 50% overclock. A nice comparison here: http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2011...htc-flyer-htc-desire-hd-and-samsung-galaxy-s/
The Rezound's camera is also better, and it has "Beats Audio" (not sure if that's any good though).
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beats audio is garbage unless you like rap/hip-hop (thankfully the beats 'technology' doesn't kick in unless you plug in those craptastic beats headphones), the Rezound *might* have the Nexus beat in processor and camera but Nexus wins IMO screen-wise, its also unbloated/unskinned, will have first dibs on updates and with the zero lag shutter... meh its a toss-up I think, both are solid phones but I'd kinda lean toward the Nexus
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ambrar12 said:
I completely disagree with the majority here. The HTC Rezound is by far the superior phone. Its 720p IPS LCD screen is *true* HD, not Pentile, and current OLED tech suffers from color inaccuracy and oversaturation. The subpixel count on the GNex is about equal to most 800x480 phones.
The Rezound's Adreno 220 GPU is also superior. The Gnex's GPU is just the Charge's PowerVR SGX 540 with 50% overclock. A nice comparison here: http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2011...htc-flyer-htc-desire-hd-and-samsung-galaxy-s/
The Rezound's camera is also better, and it has "Beats Audio" (not sure if that's any good though).
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This post sounds like a complete HTC fanboy post. Some of those tests with the GPU were barely better than the original SGX540 GPU. It's also closer to a 100% overclock (200MHz in the Charge v. 384MHz in the Nexus), so I would think those tests would turn out vastly different if run with the Nexus GPU at the same resolutions.
Screen is debatable, and if you looked at the Nexus screen, you couldn't tell if it was pentile or not. Outdoor visibility has ALWAYS been the best on the SAMOLED screens though, and power consumption can be better with them as well.
Camera, I'd have to see to believe as I have NEVER heard of HTC using good quality image sensors. Just because it's 8MP compared to the Nexus's 5MP doesn't mean it's better. That's like saying a 16MP point-and-shoot takes better pictures than a 10MP DSLR. It can if the conditions are right, but usually, it won't.
Beats audio is also a complete sham as the audio processor in the Charge is better. You'll likely get worse audio from Beats than you would from the Nexus. Then lets not forget software upgrades and the lack of add-on apps, can you guess which one wins here? And you can probably forget about AOSP on the Rezound anytime soon as it took several months for Layher to get it on the TB, and I don't see anyone having the dedication to do that again.

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This post sounds like a complete HTC fanboy post. Some of those tests with the GPU were barely better than the original SGX540 GPU. It's also closer to a 100% overclock (200MHz in the Charge v. 384MHz in the Nexus), so I would think those tests would turn out vastly different if run with the Nexus GPU at the same resolutions.
Screen is debatable, and if you looked at the Nexus screen, you couldn't tell if it was pentile or not. Outdoor visibility has ALWAYS been the best on the SAMOLED screens though, and power consumption can be better with them as well.
Camera, I'd have to see to believe as I have NEVER heard of HTC using good quality image sensors. Just because it's 8MP compared to the Nexus's 5MP doesn't mean it's better. That's like saying a 16MP point-and-shoot takes better pictures than a 10MP DSLR. It can if the conditions are right, but usually, it won't.
Beats audio is also a complete sham as the audio processor in the Charge is better. You'll likely get worse audio from Beats than you would from the Nexus. Then lets not forget software upgrades and the lack of add-on apps, can you guess which one wins here? And you can probably forget about AOSP on the Rezound anytime soon as it took several months for Layher to get it on the TB, and I don't see anyone having the dedication to do that again.
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Also it took the rezound like 2 months just to receive root so their Dev community is probably pretty bare
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Just checked the Rezound forum. Apparently they already have an ICS ROM thanks to an ICS leak for the "Sensation XL", whatever that is.
As for AMOLED, unfortunately it's not mature enough yet and drains more battery than LCD as well as having inaccurate colors and oversaturation. And with a 720p pentile you won't notice the pixels but I don't think the sharpness would be as good as a true 720p RGB screen (I could be wrong, but I personally wouldn't bother taking the chance).
As for Beats Audio, I kinda figured you wouldn't be able to get hi-fi music quality without a proprietary port.
Also one other thing that (for me) is a real deal-breaker is lack of microSD slot on the GNexus. I have no idea what Google was thinking there.

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Just checked the Rezound forum. Apparently they already have an ICS ROM thanks to an ICS leak for the "Sensation XL", whatever that is.
As for AMOLED, unfortunately it's not mature enough yet and drains more battery than LCD as well as having inaccurate colors and oversaturation. And with a 720p pentile you won't notice the pixels but I don't think the sharpness would be as good as a true 720p RGB screen (I could be wrong, but I personally wouldn't bother taking the chance).
As for Beats Audio, I kinda figured you wouldn't be able to get hi-fi music quality without a proprietary port.
Also one other thing that (for me) is a real deal-breaker is lack of microSD slot on the GNexus. I have no idea what Google was thinking there.
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Hooray for an ICS ROM that is very buggy, I know I'll use that all the time Can't wait to get a Sense'd version with as many useless apps as Verizon and jam into it. Glad to see you ignored the AOSP comment completely as well.
The screen statement is somewhat untrue as well. The issue with battery life comes when you're using bright colors or video. If you use black, you get excellent battery life as black pixels use 0 power for AMOLED screens, how much power does a black pixel use on an LCD panel? Inaccurate colors are one thing, as that depends on several factors, but it can be corrected, as can the over-saturation. Are there issues with the technology? Sure, but I'll take a SAMOLED screen over an LCD panel every day. Oh, and how about contrast ratio comparison between the two? How about comparing the thickness of a full screen assembly (touch sensor, backlight, and display) between AMOLED and tradition LCD? There are reasons that it's being used, despite how bad you think the technology is.
No MicroSD slot, now we're just nit-picking. Is it a bad thing? Kinda. However, how often do people change them? I only ever changed it out to get a faster card. The only thing I miss about having one is that I could just copy over my backed up data easily to the Nexus. Other than that, it's pointless and I don't see anyone having issues with the lack of a microSD card.
Oh, you also forgot to comment about the GPU tests and the camera. Is the Rezound a bad phone? No, but if you want long term support, I don't think you're going to beat the Nexus as it will see several updates in the future, and even if Google stops updating it, the community will keep it going. Plus, any issues you see can be fixed by the community before Google gets around to it, so you can see fixes faster if there are problems. The Rezound? It will probably see an OTA to ICS, then probably two more OTAs for bug fixes, after that, probably not much. Good luck getting AOSP on it, as that will take a long time, if ever; just see the Thunderbolt as an example. Community driven fixes? When's the last time HTC took bug fix advice from the public if it wasn't a security issue?

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Just checked the Rezound forum. Apparently they already have an ICS ROM thanks to an ICS leak for the "Sensation XL", whatever that is.
As for AMOLED, unfortunately it's not mature enough yet and drains more battery than LCD as well as having inaccurate colors and oversaturation. And with a 720p pentile you won't notice the pixels but I don't think the sharpness would be as good as a true 720p RGB screen (I could be wrong, but I personally wouldn't bother taking the chance).
As for Beats Audio, I kinda figured you wouldn't be able to get hi-fi music quality without a proprietary port.
Also one other thing that (for me) is a real deal-breaker is lack of microSD slot on the GNexus. I have no idea what Google was thinking there.
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Haha Rezound. You can keep that fat, whored-out (Beats scam, bloated up, Sense..), cheesy red colored locked-down brick. HTC is really becoming like Motorola by locking down their devices which creates delays and frustration for people like us. It will receive an update sure.. once. Until they release their new Super Amazing Incredible Orgasmic Deluxe 4G.
Also I hate the volume and power buttons on that phone, they are pretty much flush and have no tactile feel (mushy), don't even start on the horrendous battery life of HTC phones.
Sure the GNEX might not be ideal in every way, but neither is the Rezound. Just because you prefer it doesn't mean everyone else does too

I'd take SAMOLED Plus over LCD, but my personal experience with Pentile (browsing at Verizon store) has been pretty negative.
My point with the SD card was for the sake of extra storage. This is one of the most irritating aspects of the iPhone. These days there are 64 GB microSDXC cards out. The 32 GB card price keeps falling.

I'd wait too. I would want something with dev support like the Galaxy Nexus, but at least 8 MP rear-facing camera and hopefully >2 MP front-facing.

Go with the Nexus if you need a phone now....I have it and I love it. There are almost too many developers on that phone, which is a nice change coming from the charge.
The thing that annoys me most about the Rezound is the power button is on the wrong side of the phone. I use either my thumb or pointer finger of my right hand to push the power button. It's pretty awkward doing that on the rezound. Maybe it's just me lol

What phone??? XL, EVO, RazR, SGS2, Galaxy Nexus.

Hi all,
Looking to get a new contract and i'm torn, i actually work as tech support in a phone shop and i'm stumped as to what to pick, I'm a big fan of sense but I'm an eye out, the razr for example is a lovely looking phone but it's senseless and it is a motorola, i've heard bad things about them.
The XL is a beast but it's only single core, i love the size, it's perfect for me and the screen is very vibrant plus it has snazzy headphones.
The evo is everything i want but it's a little small, i know the screen size isn't tiny but next to the xl it is, an xl evo hybrid would be magic.
The SGS2 is hardware wise a decent phone but again i'm not a fan of senseless phones.
And finally the Galaxy Nexus, one of my colleagues has it and it's a gorgeous looking phone, it does everything very well and it hides the fact that it's senseless very well.
I may go for this, but I can only get it on the three network were i am plus i wouldn't be able to get it today, as i don't have my ID.
I'm using the Lumia at the moment and it's a lovely phone but the lack of apps and the restrictions, the price of the apps, the whole experience is being hindered by these limitations.
anyone with experience of these phones, hands on or if they have them, what would you decide on?
Are there any phones in the near future which i should hold out for?
Any help would be good.
Cheers.

I think that you should buy the SGS2.

not getting this sorry... according to your sig you own already 2 htc devices where the sensation is quite new and not much of adifference to the sgs2. would either pick the galaxy nexus or wait for the s3.

My priority list for fones--
1.)Galaxy Nexus (for sure)
2.)SgS2 + 2000mAh battery(will get ICS later on, but i am patient enough for that)
3.)XL (size is downside for me coz i Have BuTTerFingers
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Razr or galaxy nexus for sure.
If the razr had ics i would switch over to verizon in a heart beat. Phone looks so niceeee and has.good specs as well.
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from ur selection i really would go with either the galaxy s2 or galaxy nexus and since im a vanilla lover id def go with the galaxy nexus ...nexus phones ftw.

go mess with the phones at the store and decide for yourself. threads like this are pointless, imho. each device will have its fanboys and haters.
all i can say is galaxy nexus looks superior to others for now. wait a few months and something better will drop, dropping its value to 300-400 bucks.

Galaxy S2
Why?
The most powerful GPU
Best camera
Great battery
Fast UI that NEVER lags
Super lite and thin
Brilliant display.

You're a veteran of three HTC devices, so I wouldn't even look at the Evo or XL. Razr... Motorola... bleh.
Go for GN or SGS2. In that order.

rawrfische said:
You're a veteran of three HTC devices, so I wouldn't even look at the Evo or XL. Razr... Motorola... bleh.
Go for GN or SGS2. In that order.
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The GN has a crappy camera. Avoid. GS2 > GN

POLO_i780 said:
Galaxy S2
Why?
The most powerful GPU
Best camera
Great battery
Fast UI that NEVER lags
Super lite and thin
Brilliant display.
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Oh im sorry but the best camera phone in 2011 is the sensation and its been proven by the cnet and the best ui is always sense
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I'd go for the GN for the updates.
yeah, other phones get it... eventually, but with a Nexus phone, you'll always be up to date, months in advance of everyone else.
plus phone looks great... not too crazy about the build quality as it's a Samsung phone but, nice design non the less.
5mp vs. 8mp... mp don't mean crap. what's more important is the sensor. (have not tried out the GN's camera to comment. just stating in general)
don't buy into the Beats Audio nonsense. it's pure marketing. better headphones/EQ settings out on the market.

Dare I suggest either the note (friend has one and it is huge) or wait until ces / mwc
Or get the nexus
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POLO_i780 said:
Galaxy S2
Why?
The most powerful GPU
Best camera
Great battery
Fast UI that NEVER lags
Super lite and thin
Brilliant display.
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Shame on you,
It does not have the most powerful GPU, iPhone 4S and the iPad2 have the most powerful GPU. It doesn't have the best camera, two of my friends own SGS2 and after a month or two they both experienced a lot of UI slowdowns and lagging. Surely there is a point of being too thin also considering it is made of cheap plastic? Loving the ancient WVGA display!
I'd probably go for the Razr it looks lovely!

Joshhedge said:
Shame on you,
It does not have the most powerful GPU, iPhone 4S and the iPad2 have the most powerful GPU. It doesn't have the best camera, two of my friends own SGS2 and after a month or two they both experienced a lot of UI slowdowns and lagging. Surely there is a point of being too thin also considering it is made of cheap plastic? Loving the ancient WVGA display!
I'd probably go for the Razr it looks lovely!
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Did the PW ask about an iPhone or iPad???
In terms of overall Pic quality/video quality the GS2 is the best in the PW's list.
Majority of users and reviewers will tell you the GS2 hardly slows down, its the one high end Android that can be compared to iPhone4S and WP7 phones in terms of a UI thats fast and smooth.
If it was cheap plastic there would be tons of complaints of back covers breaking, screens cracking, plastic quickly chipping etc...all over the web, and the press would be all over it, yet wait...theres none of that.
The "ancient" WVGA display has been praised due to the Super AMOLED Plus tech it uses, and is up there with the Retina display.

POLO_i780 said:
Did the PW ask about an iPhone or iPad???
In terms of overall Pic quality/video quality the GS2 is the best in the PW's list.
Majority of users and reviewers will tell you the GS2 hardly slows down, its the one high end Android that can be compared to iPhone4S and WP7 phones in terms of a UI thats fast and smooth.
If it was cheap plastic there would be tons of complaints of back covers breaking, screens cracking, plastic quickly chipping etc...all over the web, and the press would be all over it, yet wait...theres none of that.
The "ancient" WVGA display has been praised due to the Super AMOLED Plus tech it uses, and is up there with the Retina display.
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Yeah you are right...I'm a[cough-cough] proud owner of a qHD display of my sensation due to which there are less apps and games available and those available have streched UI...
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Joshhedge said:
Shame on you,
It does not have the most powerful GPU, iPhone 4S and the iPad2 have the most powerful GPU. It doesn't have the best camera, two of my friends own SGS2 and after a month or two they both experienced a lot of UI slowdowns and lagging. Surely there is a point of being too thin also considering it is made of cheap plastic? Loving the ancient WVGA display!
I'd probably go for the Razr it looks lovely!
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Are you kidding, I've done first hand comparisons to the Evo's cameras to the iPhone4 and the iPad2 and the Evo killed them easily.
The SGS2 cam is slightly better than the Evo (again first hand experience) more accurately detects lighting conditions on auto.
The Sensation camera is slightly better than the SGS2 (firsthand) capturing colors better on auto. I do love its camera button, pressure sensitive.
I haven't used the other phones so..
The cameras specs do not make it a good camera if it can capture in 1080p but its blurred, wrong exposure, colors over/under saturated, etc...
But the phones aren't all about the camera. Depending on what you want from it you need to consider how well it would be supported. What kind of accessory items will be available, like car/desk docks. If your a flashaholic then look at what phone threads get the most active developments.
My 2 cents
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I came from HTC and was HUGE Sense UI fan, now i have Google Nexus ("Galaxy") and couldn't be happier! it's by far the BEST phone i've got
Experience:
HTC Touch Pro 2
HTC Desire
HTC Desire HD
HTC Sensation
HTC Sensation XE (Borrowed)
SAMSUNG Galaxy S II
Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc S
SAMSUNG Galaxy Note (Won it from SAMSUNG launch contest then sold it after 2 weeks and got>>)
Google (Galaxy) Nexus!

Definitely the SGSII.
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I recommend you Galaxy S2 for sure. It's the best choice money/quality.