Q) Need advice in choosing my next phone - General Questions and Answers

Hello there!
Currently, I'm in possession of a Motorola Milestone. Great phone, but the slightly outdated RAM, crappy update support and locked bootloader made me crave for a new phone. With all the new stuff coming out this year, I'm not entirely sure of my decision. Because of the great hardware specs (dualcore processor, 1GB RAM etc.) the Galaxy S2 I9100 pulled my interest. But I'm not entirely sure if a non-TouchWIZ UI custom ROM can be installed, and if not, I'm wondering wether the Touchwiz provides a android-worthy experience. Any thoughts on this?
The most important thing is that my new smartphone will stay relevant for a good while. With my Milestone (which I bought way too late anyway) I couldn't run games like Dungeon Defenders, which has been released a few months after buying this phone.
Any advice from the experts would be greatly appreciated.
Edit: A Tegra 2 processor seems attractive, is this processor worthwhile?

Wait for the HTC Sensation
Dual core CPU @ 1.2 GHz,Tegra 2 procesor,1080p recording,1GB of RAM,4.3" screen and a resolution "Retina" like,its actually a qHD LCD screen

I'd go with the Droid Bionic!

Hexbug said:
I'd go with the Droid Bionic!
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reflexEagle said:
Wait for the HTC Sensation
Dual core CPU @ 1.2 GHz,Tegra 2 procesor,1080p recording,1GB of RAM,4.3" screen and a resolution "Retina" like,its actually a qHD LCD screen
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Well, I live in Europe so I need go with a GSM phone so Droid Bionic wouldn't do the job I'm afraid. Thanks for the advice though
I was interested in the HTC Pyramid/Sensation as well indeed, but heard negative rumors about the processor not catching up with other phones or something?
Edit: Also found out Sensation has 768MB of RAM, not that it's a huge difference or anything ;p

Well Sensation is a very good device but also HTC Evo 3D is pretty good if you like the 3D expirience without glasses

The Sensation won't have the Tegra. HTC is using the dual core Qualcomm CPU listed a 1.2GHz.
This is taken from Phonearena.com:
"HTC Sensation comes with a fresh serving of Android 2.3 Gingerbread, but it's all about the HTC Sense UI version 3.0 with a touch of refinement and functionality straight from the lock screen. You can choose between a number of lock screen options such as weather updates, quick access to apps and a handful of clock widgets. A 1.2GHz Qualcomm dual-core chipset supports the nice 3D-like transitions in the menu, all carrying resemblance to the ones on the HTC Flyer tablet. The phone is the first with a contoured glass 4.3-inch display meaning that your Super LCD screen is set back slightly to avoid scratches. The resolution is qHD (540x960) with an aspect ratio of 16:9. On the back you have an 8MP camera with dual-LED flash with “instant capture,” meaning little to no lag between pictures. The camera is also capable of recording video at 30fps in full HD (1080p) resolution."

I personally suggest the SGS2 for you, the new touchwiz seems to bring all of our favorite launcher features and some interesting widgets. It looks like a nice phone, (button seems lame tho) I say you can't go wrong with anything HTC, Samsung is pretty good hardware, software is lacking though, but that's what our lovely DEVS are for. And stay away from moto, they are just....They did horrible things to the xoom...horrible things. It could have been sooo much more... Anywayyy..
Hope this helps

This surely helps, thanks for the advice! Although I'm even more unsure of my choice, because of the new phones you guys suggested
Evo 3D comes out in Europe as well, which is great, just not sure of the battery life with 3D effect? and will it effect performance of the phone itself?
Also thanks moderator for moving my thread to the correct subforum.

I'm very skeptical about all this 3d hype. 3d screens seems to utilize the same technology that is behind 3DS, which causes nausea, headaches and some people are just unable to see it.
If i was considering buying a new android phone, i'd come up with a budget i'd like to spend and selected the phone that i find visually most attractive. Since they most likely to be priced competitevely, you can't make a too much of an error this way, and dual core 1.2 GHz processors will surely be an overkill for most applications except most advanced 3d games in closest 6-12 months IMO.

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Xperia X10, HTC Desire Or The Nexus One

Hello,
I'm seriously doubting what phone i should buy, and therefore i want to ask if any of you have some advantages or disadvantages and some things that are just for taste so i can get a good idea of what the advantages and disadvantages are of the phones and just the things people like or hate about it?
My main points are ofcourse The android versions and the speed of the phones and if they are strong devices so if they don't break easily.
Thnx in advance!
The X10 is the weakest of the three handsets you've listed.
It's only a 65k LCD screen and it has no multi-touch.
Obviously, a part of that is due to the version of Android it's running but it's unclear whether any of that will improve when (or indeed, given it's Sony Ericsson we're talking about, if) they get round releasing an upgrade.
Aside from that, as nice as the Timescape app is on the X10, it just doesn't match Sense on the Desire.
The only point the X10 has in it's favour is that it's an 8MP camera but in my first-hand experience it was very, very poor even in good light. SE have said they will be adding HD video recording by way of a software upgrade but that won't be until the end of the year at best (and, once again, this being SE there is a history of taking missing deadlines by months, almost years).
As for the Nexus One, personally I see no advantage ot it over the Desire but, equally, it's not really any worse either, so I suppose it's all down to price where you are.
Whichever one you go for, they're both that bit better than the SE.
It may also be worth considering the Samsung Galaxy S with it's 5MP HD video (but no flash!?!) camera, 1GHz 'Hummingbird' CPU and 4" WVGA superAMOLED screen (basically all the advantages of AMOLED but you can use it in sunlight).
That or the up-coming Motorola XT720 which will offer an 8MP HD recording camera with a proper Xenon flash as well as HDMI-out, along with a decent all-round spec inclduing a 720MHz OMAP 3430 CPU, 512MB of RAM and a 3.7" 480x854 multi-touch LCD screen.
Step666 said:
The X10 is the weakest of the three handsets you've listed.
It's only a 65k LCD screen and it has no multi-touch.
Obviously, a part of that is due to the version of Android it's running but it's unclear whether any of that will improve when (or indeed, given it's Sony Ericsson we're talking about, if) they get round releasing an upgrade.
Aside from that, as nice as the Timescape app is on the X10, it just doesn't match Sense on the Desire.
The only point the X10 has in it's favour is that it's an 8MP camera but in my first-hand experience it was very, very poor even in good light. SE have said they will be adding HD video recording by way of a software upgrade but that won't be until the end of the year at best (and, once again, this being SE there is a history of taking missing deadlines by months, almost years).
As for the Nexus One, personally I see no advantage ot it over the Desire but, equally, it's not really any worse either, so I suppose it's all down to price where you are.
Whichever one you go for, they're both that bit better than the SE.
It may also be worth considering the Samsung Galaxy S with it's 5MP HD video (but no flash!?!) camera, 1GHz 'Hummingbird' CPU and 4" WVGA superAMOLED screen (basically all the advantages of AMOLED but you can use it in sunlight).
That or the up-coming Motorola XT720 which will offer an 8MP HD recording camera with a proper Xenon flash as well as HDMI-out, along with a decent all-round spec inclduing a 720MHz OMAP 3430 CPU, 512MB of RAM and a 3.7" 480x854 multi-touch LCD screen.
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Thnx for your reply!
I will have a look at those phones you mentioned! I currently possess the HTC Touch HD (Hate WinMo) and i find the screen a bit to small but the touchkeys are really nice! So i'm looking for a phone that has quite a large screen like the Evo 4G with Android. I like the X10 because of the larger screen and Android but i'm already rethinking buying that device. Something like the HTC HD2 would be really nice only with android operating on it! Which seems to me would be the Evo 4G but i cannot buy that phone since i live in the netherlands.
Do you know some upcoming devices or devices out now that i might like?
Thnx for your help!
Right, well, the Touch HD has a 3.8" screen so if you want larger than rules out the Desire/Nexus One and the Motorola XT720 as they're all 3.7".
The Samsung I mentioned has a 4" screen, so it'll be a bit bigger than the Touch HD's but you're talking 5mm difference diagonally, which isn't exactly huge. That said, if you were considering the X10 then the Galaxy S is the same size of screen.
Other than that, there's the Dell Streak but it's a 5" screen so it's a whole order of magnitude larger than the likes of the HD2/Evo 4G.
Moving on from phones that are already or about to go on sale, there's the on-going rumours of the Motorola Shadow/Droid Xtreme which is supposed to have a screen between 4.1 and 4.3" but it's very much a rumour and if it's anything like the last Droid, it'll be released in the US first and the rest of the world a fair while later.
And you won't even be able to buy it from the US to get it sooner because it's almost guaranteed that it'll be a CDMA handset on Verizon.
Looking at the handsets that GSMArena lists as running Android and having a screen larger than 4", apart from the ones I've mentioned there's the leaked Dell Thunder which will be a 4.1" but there's no confirmation of when or where it's going on sale; the Samsung 7" tablet which isn't really designed to be a phone at all; and some handset from a brand called 'i-mobile' that I've never even heard of.

final decision..Sensation or GS2 ?? and why ??

hello
i will buy a new android phone and i don't now which phone i should buy it
Sensation
786 RAM it's a problem ??
1GB for apps it's a problem ??
sensation have nice screen ??
i can overclock sensation to 1.5GHz without problem ??
anything else ?
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hello
i will buy a new android phone and i don't now which phone i should buy it
Sensation
786 RAM it's a problem ??
1GB for apps it's a problem ??
sensation have nice screen ??
i can overclock sensation to 1.5GHz without problem ??
anything else ?
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I got rid of sense so RAM is not a problem at all. Idk if RAM is an issue with sense running since I took it off the first day.
Have over 70 apps and still plenty of space left
The screen is nice but there are two types one made by sharp and one made by auo. The sharp one is a little sharper but not as vibrant the auo is pretty vibrant but has a little bit of ghosting issues. I have an auo and I'm pretty happy with it.
Currently running at 1.7 with no issues
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which one is better and faster ??
Mali 400 (GS2) vs Adreno 220 (Sensation)
sensation cpu vs gs2 cpu ??
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which one is better and faster ??
Mali 400 (GS2) vs Adreno 220 (Sensation)
sensation cpu vs gs2 cpu ??
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Supposedly the adreno is more powerful than the mali. Exynos is better than snapdragon though
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Supposedly the adreno is more powerful than the mali. Exynos is better than snapdragon though
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Where is the benchmark that says Adreno 220 is more powerful than MALI 400? I really haven't seen one yet.
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Where is the benchmark that says Adreno 220 is more powerful than MALI 400? I really haven't seen one yet.
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Me either. Everyone just keeps saying its better on paper. To bad real world use doesn't take place on a sheet of paper. Bottom line. Samsung is on fire right now and nobody can put them out. Its hard to deny that they know how to optimize their devices and create good drivers along with having super fast NAND memory and insane display panels. Oh and lets not forget. Engadget gave the GSII the award of having the second best camera in history only trailing the N95.
People can hate on Samsung all they want but their is a reason why they sell a **** ton of Android devices. All the Samsung haters can sit back and watch the GSII break the sales records for Android devices to date.
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Might be getting a gs2. Though, not saying the sensation is a bad phone. In fact I love my phone.
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I feel like the sensation is built better than the SG2. It feels a bit more solid in my opinion. The screen is sort of a toss up, the Samsung's does have better colors and stuff but the Sensations's has a better resolution.
The SG2 will probably have better performance in its unmodified state than a sensation, because of the lower resolution and the Exynos chip.
Personally, I would have preferred the SG2, but I ended up getting the Sensation just because the SG2 hasn't been officially released in the US yet. I ended up paying just under $400 for a new sensation without contract while the absolute cheapest I could find a SG2 for was $650 plus tax.
i will buy htc Sensation and i will installing custom rom but first what i should do ?? unlock bootloader from htc or what ?
SGS2 is ugly, cheap made and Touchwiz is horrible. The Sensation feels better built and Sense 3 is fantastic. RAM is NOT a problem. The higher resolution screen is beautiful.
Personally I used http://revolutionary.io/ S-off to unlock the phone.
If you use the HTC unlocked bootloader, you are basically telling HTC you have voided your warranty. But with http://revolutionary.io/, it can be revered and HTC won't know about it.
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SGS2 is ugly, cheap made and Touchwiz is horrible. The Sensation feels better built and Sense 3 is fantastic. RAM is NOT a problem. The higher resolution screen is beautiful.
Personally I used http://revolutionary.io/ S-off to unlock the phone.
If you use the HTC unlocked bootloader, you are basically telling HTC you have voided your warranty. But with http://revolutionary.io/, it can be revered and HTC won't know about it.
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I've heard this from a lot of people, I came from a Galaxy S, and prefered TouchWiz to Sense, many great features over it imo (not the launcher or widgets, actual apps.. contacts, dialer, calculator, email, etc). I find my self craving AOSP apps with the sensation.. and absolutely hated any rom with aosp apps on the Galaxy. Sense 3.0 feels clunky and less refined.
Just my .02
Comparing hardware, HTC feels better. But the Galaxy was super lightweight, and super thin and ergonomically better imo (side power/lock button) but has a 'cheap' feel to it (because made super light and thin), but was very sturdy. Super Amoled screen looked good, but qHD beats it imo (extra real estate makes up for any lack of prettiness and then some). The camera on the samsung was superb and will really miss it. And comparing phone speed, as long as the UI is smooth and its quick opening apps, its fine. I'm not transcoding movies or anything crazy like that or running crazy intense graphics so every last drop of score in a benchmark is pointless to me.
Galaxy s 2 I wish I got one.
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Well I had Galaxy S2 and at the moment have a sensation. While I had s2 I had 2 issues. Yellowish left side screen only noticeable até gray background and pink spot on photos and i replaced the unit, got rid of yellowish and almost gone pink spot but then had hd video recording frame rate drop at low light conditions... Well i thought, I payed 500 euro for this? So traded with sensation and this is the real thing that happened, even with the new 2.3.4 super fast ROM it doesn't compare with the speed of s2 but ok, is fast enough... Had touch screen issues already not responding to my command and having force closes with everyday apps and even now phone reboots itself when trying to play a game... Also phone calls sound thin and low volume, having a little distortion, audio recording also too thin. Already asked for a replace going back to S2 and pink spot and video problems since the rest just feels quick and perfect...
BUT I love sense, if anyone depends on it, don't go wrong, sensation and sense 3.0 is just so easy and complete, beautiful and with new update 2.3.4 no lag at all! I hope I had HTC build, responsiveness and speed of Samsung and sense... About the screen at the beginning I thought samoled+ was way better but now I think is a matter of taste and what we get used to...
Hope it helps
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www.youtube.com
type in "sensation review videos" and/or "galaxy s 2 review videos"
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I'll just go ahead and say it like a douche--do your part and read the damn reviews. This same question gets asked day after day, and there are tons of review articles/videos done by the professionals.
Would you let your friends decide for you what car to buy? Or would you rather do your due diligence, perform your own research, and make your own decision?
I can't definitely say since I've never used a SGS2, but I would have gone with it if it was available in the US at the same time the Sensation came out. I don't get why a lot of Sensation owners like to hate on it. It's made out of plastic? OK. Tons of electronics these days are made out of plastic (just taking a 270 degree visual sweep of my room I spot a primarily plastic TV, a primarily plastic Xbox 360 with plastic controllers and network adapter, a plastic multi-effects pedal for my guitar, and a plastic alarm clock). It bothers me when people make it like plastic build quality is such a big deal, especially when it's in fact better for reception and consequently makes the phone better at its purpose. It's even worse when I see people moan about plastic build quality and then later I see them posting in the accessories section about the best cases. If you put cases on your phones why would you give a care about the build material? You don't feel or see it when it's in a case.
There are only a few things that I think the Sensation definitely does better, and those are screen resolution, UI, and build quality. The screen resolution isn't that big an advantage because the SGS2 counters it with better brightness and more vivid colors, the UI isn't that big an advantage because Sense was inherently finished poorly for the Sensation (lag city), and the build quality isn't that big an advantage because it has the negative side effects of the deathgrip and reception problems (and let's face the fact that "unibody" was a joke all along). The SGS2 outspecs and outdoes the Sensation imo in most areas. Easily the better processor, RAM, internal memory by a long shot, camera, overall performance, battery life, speaker by a long shot, etc.
Just my .02. The Sensation is still a good phone and I'll be keeping it till at least the end of the year, but I'm mildly disappointed with it. It's not that I regret it, because as a TMOUS guy it was the best option available to me at the time.
I'd choose sgs2 or g2x, I only keep my sensation for netflix
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I'd choose sgs2 or g2x, I only keep my sensation for netflix
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I hope you realize you don't actually need any specific model to use the Netflix app.
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Where is the benchmark that says Adreno 220 is more powerful than MALI 400? I really haven't seen one yet.
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Hence why I said supposedly lol
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I've heard this from a lot of people, I came from a Galaxy S, and prefered TouchWiz to Sense, many great features over it imo (not the launcher or widgets, actual apps.. contacts, dialer, calculator, email, etc). I find my self craving AOSP apps with the sensation.. and absolutely hated any rom with aosp apps on the Galaxy. Sense 3.0 feels clunky and less refined.
Just my .02
Comparing hardware, HTC feels better. But the Galaxy was super lightweight, and super thin and ergonomically better imo (side power/lock button) but has a 'cheap' feel to it (because made super light and thin), but was very sturdy. Super Amoled screen looked good, but qHD beats it imo (extra real estate makes up for any lack of prettiness and then some). The camera on the samsung was superb and will really miss it. And comparing phone speed, as long as the UI is smooth and its quick opening apps, its fine. I'm not transcoding movies or anything crazy like that or running crazy intense graphics so every last drop of score in a benchmark is pointless to me.
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Same here. I actually love Touch Wiz. It looks exactly like any of the launchers most of the people here put on their phone. Its a lot closer to vanila Android than Sense is and its also a lot less laggy. The Samsung clients such as email, messages and contacts not only look better but they function better as well. I love how you can swipe on a contact to initiate a message or phone call. Touch Wiz also has better Facebook and Twitter integration. The only thing I think Sense does better is widgets but I don't use them anyway.
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Yea I chose Sensation because it had a nice screen. Hercules is gonna be a beast when it debuts tho. I always see the S2 win at speed tests, but frankly, I don't care.
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[Q] Question- New Phone Under T-Mobile (USA)

I'm at a loss here. I'm not sure which phone I should get.
I want something that's "futureproof". I use that term VERY loosely because I know mobile technology is always evolving.
I'm looking for something that's fast, and will last some time. I don't care if it runs on stock android or not.
I was thinking of either HTC Sensation, HTC Amaze, Samsung Galaxy S2, and the like. I'm not too sure on which I should get though.
By the way, this will be my second android phone, coming from the HTC G1. (Yes I know, THE G1)
What phone would you suggest? I've looked through the reviews and videos of them all, I just simply can't decide. I'm leaning towards the HTC Amaze since it's one of the latest devices out there.
I'm also open to other suggestions but keep in mind, it has to be under T-Mobile.
I apologize in advance if there has been similar threads posted and/or if this thread is in the wrong location.
t-mobile usa
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How is that supposed to help me? I asked suggestions for a phone, not a carrier.
Can anyone help? I need to decide soon. Help would be appreciated.
I would go for the SGSII.
HTC makes solid phones that perform well out of the box, but from what I hear they are tough to root. Samsung tend to have great quality screens, Motorola has good hardware. I would suggest (if you are going for future proof) getting a dual core phone, at least 1Ghz, 1.2Ghz if you can. I believe the HTC Evo 3D has a dual core 1.2GHz, as well as the Galaxy SII and Galaxy Nexus. Get something with a good screen because if you are going to be using it for a long time, you want it to look nice, am I right? I don't know if the camera is a big deal to oyu, but LG makes good cameras, and I would shoot for at least 5M camera.
With all of that in mind, the HTC sensation looks like a solid phone on paper, but is pretty expensive and reviews don't look too good. If rooting is your thing, you can fix performance.
Galaxy SII is amazing, with great specs, great screen, great camera, and a dual core 1.2Ghz processor. Combined with a top of the line GPU, this phone will handle games and rendering with top of its class performance. if money is not an issue, I would go with that. Again, if rooting is your thing, the development community behind the GSII is going to be amazing. Also, this phone is very likely to get Ice Cream Sandwich 4.0 as an official release.
The HTC Amaze is a great phone with a 1.5ghz dual core processor with HTC sense (which is a major downfall of the phone apparently, as sense is laggy and choppy on the Amaze. I like sense UI but other launchers are better on this phone) AGAIN, if rooting is your thing, you can fix performance. Heck, you dont even have to root, you just have to download a launcher off the market.
FINAL THOUGHTS:
I would choose between the HTC amaze and the galaxy SII. HTC has an amazing build quality, Galaxy SII has the development and hardware power. If you plan on getting a case for the phone, then how it feels wouldn't matter, I would go with the SGII. It all boils down to personal preference.
Cheers!
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I'm sorry I made a mistake, the SGSII is actually a 15.Ghz dual core phone, not 1.2Ghz. Definitely go with the Samsung.
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HTC makes solid phones that perform well out of the box, but from what I hear they are tough to root. Samsung tend to have great quality screens, Motorola has good hardware. I would suggest (if you are going for future proof) getting a dual core phone, at least 1Ghz, 1.2Ghz if you can. I believe the HTC Evo 3D has a dual core 1.2GHz, as well as the Galaxy SII and Galaxy Nexus. Get something with a good screen because if you are going to be using it for a long time, you want it to look nice, am I right? I don't know if the camera is a big deal to oyu, but LG makes good cameras, and I would shoot for at least 5M camera.
With all of that in mind, the HTC sensation looks like a solid phone on paper, but is pretty expensive and reviews don't look too good. If rooting is your thing, you can fix performance.
Galaxy SII is amazing, with great specs, great screen, great camera, and a dual core 1.2Ghz processor. Combined with a top of the line GPU, this phone will handle games and rendering with top of its class performance. if money is not an issue, I would go with that. Again, if rooting is your thing, the development community behind the GSII is going to be amazing. Also, this phone is very likely to get Ice Cream Sandwich 4.0 as an official release.
The HTC Amaze is a great phone with a 1.5ghz dual core processor with HTC sense (which is a major downfall of the phone apparently, as sense is laggy and choppy on the Amaze. I like sense UI but other launchers are better on this phone) AGAIN, if rooting is your thing, you can fix performance. Heck, you dont even have to root, you just have to download a launcher off the market.
FINAL THOUGHTS:
I would choose between the HTC amaze and the galaxy SII. HTC has an amazing build quality, Galaxy SII has the development and hardware power. If you plan on getting a case for the phone, then how it feels wouldn't matter, I would go with the SGII. It all boils down to personal preference.
Cheers!
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Thanks for being thorough! I don't understand what you mean by hardware power for SGS2, since both SGS2 and HTC Amaze would have the same 1.5 GHz snapdragon processor, 16 GB internal memory, 42+ Mbps HSPA, and the like.
I like HTC because of its build quality and I love how their phones are always weighty, so it feels really solid. But I've heard cons such as the light bleed issues, and some others. SGS2 has a humongous screen, and seems to be unbrickable due to odin (correct me if I'm wrong), but I've heard that the AMOLED and its resolution may prove to be a downside, and the fact that it's very light may make it seem flimsy.
Oh the choices!
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Thanks for being thorough! I don't understand what you mean by hardware power for SGS2, since both SGS2 and HTC Amaze would have the same 1.5 GHz snapdragon processor, 16 GB internal memory, 42+ Mbps HSPA, and the like.
I like HTC because of its build quality and I love how their phones are always weighty, so it feels really solid. But I've heard cons such as the light bleed issues, and some others. SGS2 has a humongous screen, and seems to be unbrickable due to odin (correct me if I'm wrong), but I've heard that the AMOLED and its resolution may prove to be a downside, and the fact that it's very light may make it seem flimsy.
Oh the choices!
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go to the store and use both? thats how i picked between my incredible and the droid x. id go with the phone with better development honestly. spec wise theyre virtually the same, except sense&touchwiz. ewwhhhhh.
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Thanks for being thorough! I don't understand what you mean by hardware power for SGS2, since both SGS2 and HTC Amaze would have the same 1.5 GHz snapdragon processor, 16 GB internal memory, 42+ Mbps HSPA, and the like.
I like HTC because of its build quality and I love how their phones are always weighty, so it feels really solid. But I've heard cons such as the light bleed issues, and some others. SGS2 has a humongous screen, and seems to be unbrickable due to odin (correct me if I'm wrong), but I've heard that the AMOLED and its resolution may prove to be a downside, and the fact that it's very light may make it seem flimsy.
Oh the choices!
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Yeah, that's one of the bad things aobut samsung devices: they tend to look and feel flimsy. HTC definitely got it right with their style of build, I am envious that I have never owned an Evo 4G. However, if you buy an otterbox, that really helps with how it feels.
I'm just trying to figure which one is better though, one has the light bleed issues, but they're not horrible, while the other has really low DPI due to the huge screen and low resolution. Currently, I'm leaning towards the Amaze, because most of HTC phones feel really solid.

One X or One S?

Hello, I am currently choosing between One S and One X, so I would like you to comment on some of my questions. First of all, let's talk about screen. I just had iPhone 4S, which has retina display. It is awesome, but after it, I used Omnia 7. And I see so many pixels there... It makes me sad. So can you see pixels on One S?
Second is question about real life usage. Is One S better than One X in terms of speed? I read some comments that One S is laggy in browser and some other places. Also, HTC removed some visual features from it. Like carusel effect when going between app browser and it's categories. So, One S doesn't have all the goodies that One X has?
Third is battery life. How good is battery life on One S? Would it easily last a day with 8h screen-on time? I surf a lot and play games, listen to music. So battery life is important to me.
Forth, size. I can't test them in real-life, so I have to make some decisions from comments and reviews. Is One X comfortable to use, or not? How does it compare to Galaxy Nexus, Titan and other big phones? I know that One S size would be perfect.
Fifth, the quality of materials. I just read about some strange things with One S, that it gets scratched and etc. I want to buy black/red version. Will I be affected with this thing?
Sixth, please comment on both phones and give arguments why one is better than other
BTW, how about memory? I listen to a lot of music, is there any easy way to compress mp3 and not loose quality? I think that 9GB won't be enough...
I am really thankful for all of your comments and I am really waiting for an honest help Also, I am returning to Android after more than a year being without it. So help me make the right decision and not be disappointed with it Thank you guys!
I'm currently in a very similar situation as you. When I saw One X & One S after release during MWC I planned to get One X, because it looked like a better device for me.
My opinion changed after first negative feedback from One X early adopters, who noticed many bugs & defects, such as UI & browser lags, screen glitches, build quality issues and so on, there are many threads about that kind of problems in One X section.
After that I focused on One S, which appeared to be much faster thanks to 28 nm Krait CPU, which easily outperforms Tegra3 in day-to-day operations. One S also has better build quality, especailly the black/red one, with MAO. Polycarbonate may be fine, but for me nothing beats metal unibody, when it comes to build quality of a smartphone.
One S is also smaller which is an advantege for me. I don't have small hands, but I want to be able to use my smartphone comfortably with one hand.
I prefer LCD to AMOLED, but I could live with One S's qHD SAMOLED, it's not a deal breaker. Also I do not notice Pentile on my Galaxy S, so I guess I won't notice it on One S.
When it comes to memory more is always better. 10 GB may be too much for some, but for others it will be too little.
Tegra 3 SoC is also very closed-sourced, so it's much harder to work with for devs, than Qualcomm SoC's.
I prefer S (dont have one yet, getting when avaible)
1. I dont know about pixels, Im moving from HTC Tattoo, so I probably dont have problems (I might have, if I can test HTC One X and S side by side @ shop)
2. S should be faster. It have smaller screen and in daily uses its faster then tegra3 (daily programs dont use quad core).
3. I dont think u can last 8h screen time...
4. I dont even know if 4.3 is good for me, but 4.7 would be to large... I would prefer same hardware in 4' size
5. S should be built with really good quality, but recent topic stated some wierd scrach... Follow that thread to see more info (search general section).
6. I prefer S because: Smaller screen, faster daily use, better battery life
One S -> One X
I bought it 4 days ago and its awesome...
Most of the guys here on xda bought the one x.. the looked at the specs and see an quad core and instantly bought it.
But they forget that the tegra 3 is totally crap! 40nm, built on a 8 years old platfrom. ( shame on you nvidia) mostly closed source and crap support by nv.
qualcom did the better job with that s4
Hey guys, HTC Sensation user here
Ive been suffering terrible signal issues with the Sensation (XE) On Vodafone UK networks. This is a well known problem, And ive had a couple replacements with the same issues so i know the device isnt faulty.
Upon research ive discovered its the Antenna design which is the culprit, So after some complaining, Ive been offered The One S or One X
Id like to know about the antenna design (google wasnt much use) Is the antenna on the One series an external antenna ? Where the antenna connectors are on the back cover ?
Id like to know a bit more before i commit to getting it, So is anyone here a Vodafone (preferably UK) User with either The one S or X ??
Could you let me know about your signal reception ? And maybe if your feeling generous Post some pictures of the Back cover for me to inspect
Also, Which would you say is the 'better' device ? I know the X is quad core, The S is Dual core, But does that make a massive difference ? Except to the battery life, which isnt the best at any given time
Thanks people, Hopefully Speak to you all again when i receive my nice new phone
I had the One X and the width of the phone annoyed me.
Now got the One S and very happy with it. Little bit more snappier I feel in menus too.
I would say the One X. It's 2012 and all highend smartphones should have HD screens.
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I would say the One X. It's 2012 and all highend smartphones should have HD screens.
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I think the One X is a disappointment. The tegra 3 is just not good enough anymore for a high end modell, even if it's a quad core.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(System_on_Chip)
There is a snapdragon with a quad core coming soon, i guess htc will switch to those when they release new high end phones, that will be way better.
But it's just my humble opinion here.
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I think the One X is a disappointment. The tegra 3 is just not good enough anymore for a high end modell, even if it's a quad core.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(System_on_Chip)
There is a snapdragon with a quad core coming soon, i guess htc will switch to those when they release new high end phones, that will be way better.
But it's just my humble opinion here.
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I agree with you I had the choice of both today, I chose the One S. I know the X has quad core, but more isnt always better, There are pluses and negatives to both devices but in the end the S won my vote.
Besides i can see the quad core draining battery in a heartbeat lol
Yeah, quad core is probably the last feature I am interested in from the One X. I'd take the screen, 32GB storage and NFC over the processor.
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Hey, i'm quite new here and tought I write here too. I have the same problem right now. Don't know which to choose. But here are some points for both phones. At first there is the One X:
It has a 720p 4.7" display, based on HTCs new Super-LCD 2 with IPS technology and NO Pentile-Matrix. It is said to be the best display out there. Bright and natural colours with very good black and white values. But as said it is a very big display and not fitted for every hand.
The body is out of polycarbonate which is quite durable but also not too hard. But it still is plastic and so it feels a bit cheap( correct me if I'm wrong). It surely feels cheaper than the HTC One S. But it's lighter
Let's come to the processor. The One X has the nvidia Tegra 3 Quad Core built in. It's an SoC based on the ARM Cortex A9 architecture in 40nm( for comparison: the Exynos 4210 is built on 45nm).
This isn't bad, but if you compare it to the new Krait architecture( somehow comparable to the new ARM Cortex A15 built on 28nm) it is significantly older and also slower. The Tegras GPU is an Nvidia own graphic unit which is known to be the worst of the newer GPUs( when all of them are at the same clock speed) but it should be fast enough to run most games smoothly so right now every new GPU is fast enough. A good point for the Kal-El may be the Tegra Zone, but I do not know enough of that service.
A big problem is the Quad Core unit. It's not that it's bad or doesn't work it's simply not optimized so most apps won't even fully use it. The companion core which is built into the SoC is a great power saver but it seems that it switches early to quad core( the companion core is not able to run when the quad core unit is active and the other way round) which could be seen on the battery life.
Let's come to battery life:
The One X has a 1800 mAh accu which is really good but cause of the quad core and the big display it will be consumed away very fast. So don't expect more than a day.
I don't know how much the Tegra and the display eats away so I cannot say if it will hold your 8h( display on).
I will only mention the differences of both handsets so I won't talk about the beats audio enhancement and the camera.
So let's come to the One S:
It is the smaller phone, and as you said it would be the perfect size. I think it's more comfortable to hold and also has the better feeling cause of it's unibody made out of aluminium. There are some known issues with the red black version but you can look them up in this forum.
The display is a Pentile-Matrix Super-AMOLED design with a qHD resolution( 960x540). If you compare it to the Galaxy S II Super-AMOLED-Plus non-Pentile display with a resolution of 800x480 the effective resolution is roughly the same( somehow 800*480*3 and 960*540*2 cause of the subpixel).
One problem for you may be the pixel density of the One S. When the One X has an pixel density of around 300 pixel per inch ( similar to your iPhone) the One S has one similar to your old Samsung.
The processor is something that really confuses me. It has the new Qualcomm Krait S4 SoC which seems to be a mystery.
It is built on a licensed ARMv7 architecture on 28nm called Krait. Qualcomm itself said it's comparable to a ARM Cortex A15 cpu. While that has to be seen it is clearly much faster than the Tegra 3, especially in everyday single-thread tasks. Here the Krait is extremely fast. The GPU while not the best out there is also a remarkable fast one that can compete to ARMs Mali 400 built in the Galaxy S II. You should not have problems with it.
One more thing for the Krait is it's really power efficient clocking. The Krait can clock each core independently so if it only needs one and a half it will clock the second core to half the speed. This gives it another great advantage over the Tegra which can only clock all together down.
At least the One S should hold as long as the One X despite it's smaller battery( 1650 mAh).
One other advantage may be the fact that some One S devices do have the new 3.0 Linux kernel. This is not confirmed but if it's right then the One S may be able to get USB-Hosting which means that you can use a real keyboard for example. This may arrive as an update.
So I personally prefer the One S despite the worse display and the small issues with the black and red version.
If you are interested in another phone you may also look for the Asus Padfone. Nearly the same stats as the One S but with an expendable storage and no beats audio enhancement. It may be interesting for you too.
Greetings Askannon
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I want the screen from the One X and the S4 from the One S. I guess I'm gone have to get me the One XL.
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I want the screen from the One X and the S4 from the One S. I guess I'm gone have to get me the One XL.
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Hopefully the one XL comes to T-Mobile s4>tegra 3
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One s gets my vote... One x looks huge .. Uncomfortable to hold
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One S -> One X
I bought it 4 days ago and its awesome...
Most of the guys here on xda bought the one x.. the looked at the specs and see an quad core and instantly bought it.
But they forget that the tegra 3 is totally crap! 40nm, built on a 8 years old platfrom. ( shame on you nvidia) mostly closed source and crap support by nv.
qualcom did the better job with that s4
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does your phone support glonass and the front camera is 1.3mp or 0.3mp VGA? thanks inadvance
I do not know whether it has glonass or not but the one s has a vga (0.3) and the one x has a 1.3 mp front camera
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Hello, I am currently choosing between One S and One X, so I would like you to comment on some of my questions. First of all, let's talk about screen. I just had iPhone 4S, which has retina display. It is awesome, but after it, I used Omnia 7. And I see so many pixels there... It makes me sad. So can you see pixels on One S?
Second is question about real life usage. Is One S better than One X in terms of speed? I read some comments that One S is laggy in browser and some other places. Also, HTC removed some visual features from it. Like carusel effect when going between app browser and it's categories. So, One S doesn't have all the goodies that One X has?
Third is battery life. How good is battery life on One S? Would it easily last a day with 8h screen-on time? I surf a lot and play games, listen to music. So battery life is important to me.
Forth, size. I can't test them in real-life, so I have to make some decisions from comments and reviews. Is One X comfortable to use, or not? How does it compare to Galaxy Nexus, Titan and other big phones? I know that One S size would be perfect.
Fifth, the quality of materials. I just read about some strange things with One S, that it gets scratched and etc. I want to buy black/red version. Will I be affected with this thing?
Sixth, please comment on both phones and give arguments why one is better than other
BTW, how about memory? I listen to a lot of music, is there any easy way to compress mp3 and not loose quality? I think that 9GB won't be enough...
I am really thankful for all of your comments and I am really waiting for an honest help Also, I am returning to Android after more than a year being without it. So help me make the right decision and not be disappointed with it Thank you guys!
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1: Screen. It depends on you and your eyesight I'm afraid. I'm using a Nexus S as my daily driver and I didn't so much notice the pixels compared with my iPhone 4, as the screen is larger, so it's generally easier to use. I don't see the pixels on the One S; the One X does have a larger screen with a higher resolution but the difference wasn't as stark as I imagined it would be. SLCD vs AMOLED, too; AMOLED is a bit of a battery drain at times whereas the SLCD doesn't look as good at night.
2: Performance. Both felt beautifully smooth in that classic Androidy way, that is, sometimes the interface can feel a little elastic. I didn't notice any difference.
3: Battery. I didn't see eight hours of usage from my iPhone 4 unless that included a lot of music (the usage isn't screen on time). I doubt you'll see this from the One series. I'll see five hours of screen on time from my Nexus S if I restrict my data usage, especially over the 3G network. Reviews say that the One S has a small advantage, but from customers and colleagues, they're both "charge once a day" devices. No change here from almost anything else in the smartphone world, then!
4 Size. The One S feels very thin in the hand. It isn't small, it's tall, relatively narrow and oh-so-thin. It feels divine in my hands if I'm getting all arty about it. The One X, however, surprised me at how adept it felt in my hands. I was expecting it to feel a bit of a monster and it didn't. I don't like the One X's protruding lens for the camera, mind. It's quite a bump on the back.
5 Quality. Both feel good, but for me the One S takes this one. Going back to how wonderful it feels to handle, part of that is what it's made of.
6 What's better? If you need NFC, you need the One S. If you game, you're probably going to want the One X. If the One S had NFC I'd already have one, but it doesn't and I'd really like a slice of the NFC pie. If the One X didn't have that bulge on the back, I'd have one of those, but it does... So... I'm undecided.
Finally, as others have said, 9 Gb isn't so much, but it depends on your personal requirements. I don't believe the 9 Gb versus 14 Gb in my Nexus S would make any difference whatsoever as I don't use my handset as my main music device.
I think this thread has been the straw that broke the camel's back for me. I've never really cared about a pretty screen to be honest.
When the display is not a factor, the One S is just... better...
I agree, The One S is the underdog... Majority of people will think One X because its more expensive, its at the top of the One Series.... But in all fairness, The One S wins hands down for me...
Bigger isnt always better ...... ask my misses
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I agree, The One S is the underdog... Majority of people will think One X because its more expensive, its at the top of the One Series.... But in all fairness, The One S wins hands down for me...
Bigger isnt always better ...... ask my misses
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Well, thanks for all your opinions But I decided to buy One X. Why? Because I hate Omnia 7 screen, which is almost the same as One S. I see pixels, it's not sharp and etc. Also, I decided that 12GB are not enough for me.
In my opinion, HTC did a bad thing releasing One S with this poor screen and small storage.

HTC M4(News updated on #55) finally leaked news!

News updated on #55
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_readying_720p_jb_m4_and_budget_ics_g2_for_spring-news-5462.php
4.3" 720P
2GB ram
1.2G S4 CPU(lol?)
16GB rom(still...)
13M cam f/2.0(same as M7)
720p front cam
LTE
1700mAH battery
Sense 5.0 on JB4.2
The CPU is same as One SV(down-clocked S4) but I doubt it very much because it would not make any existing One S customer to upgrade. So, I think the CPU should at least stay the same with One S(1.5G) or little faster(like 1.7G).
I think the LCD should change to SLCD2 this time instead of AMOLED Plus like One SV(4.3" SLCD2). I actually quite like AMOLED on phone because of perfect black but SLCD2(IPS) has better viewing experiences under sunlight which is more important to me. At the end, I don't care if it's still AMOLED or IPS, they both have pros and cons.
I have a high chance to get M4 because I don't want any size larger than 4.3". However, my One S is still lovely and used only 8 months.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony-C5303-HuaShan-midranger-smiles-for-the-camera_id39165
I may wait Sony and see, they are also going to out 4.0" ~ 4.3" 720P LTE with ExmorRS, Qualcomm MSM8960T Dual 1.7GHz with Adreno 320 GPU(I think M4 will use 8960T). Model name: C5302, C5303, C5306 (Code name:HuaShan).
TheEndHK said:
4.3" 720P
2GB ram
1.2G S4 CPU(lol?)
16GB rom(still...)
The CPU is same as One SV(down-clocked S4) but I doubt it very much because it would not make any existing One S customer to upgrade. So, I think the CPU should at least stay the same with One S(1.5G) or little faster(like 1.7G).
I think the LCD should change to SLCD2 this time instead of AMOLED Plus like One SV(4.3" SLCD2). I actually quite like AMOLED on phone because of perfect black but SLCD2(IPS) has better viewing experiences under sunlight which is more important to me. At the end, I don't care if it's still AMOLED or IPS, they both have pros and cons.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony-C5303-HuaShan-midranger-smiles-for-the-camera_id39165
I may wait Sony and see, they are also going to out 4.0" ~ 4.3" 720P LTE with ExmorRS, Qualcomm MSM8960T Dual 1.7GHz with Adreno 320 GPU(I think M4 will use 8960T). Model name: C5302, C5303, C5306 (Code name:HuaShan).
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Well I actually lover the cpu choice. Everything runs smooth on this cpu, and with a less heavy skinned Jb (sense 5) this will only improve. Every singel game runs brilliant. I don't think you will notice its downclocked on sense 5 and will bring a lot better battery life I gues.
The display in the one S is great. But when I hold it next to the One X or the SGIII or even the xperia T it really looks dreadfull. The colors and brightness seems fine but compared to these crisp screens it really falls out of the boat.
I'm wondering what the impact will be of a higher res lcd display on the 1.2ghz S4 though.
There are some Sony alternatives. Something I really like about those phones is the waterproof ones. But than again the Sony skin on these phones are just lame. All that grey bled stuff makes it really boring (and ugly), a funeral looks more cheerfull than that.
As I'm looking to replace my One S in march, my preference will still be the Xiaom MI-2.
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And I cant edit my post because my post is to short (less than 2 characters) which its obviously not... So umh.. Yes the S4 Pro quad core is a lot more powerful without sacrificing a lot of battery, but comes with a price tag. And I think this phone will be launched as a sub-high-end alternative for the M7 (like the One S was with the one X).
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Well I actually lover the cpu choice. Everything runs smooth on this cpu, and with a less heavy skinned Jb (sense 5) this will only improve. Every singel game runs brilliant. I don't think you will notice its downclocked on sense 5 and will bring a lot better battery life I gues.
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You can trick the Power Saving on in JB, it will limit both cores to 1134mhz max on One S to save battery.
yup, I spoke many times in this broad 720P is a lot better(I was own a Xperia S and that is only a suck TFT mon, not IPS). QHD resolution is really not enough for text reading though. 720P does drains more cpu power over QHD because more pixels to render on screen so it's questionable to make cpu slower while the device actually needs more cpu.
All 1080P devices go with quad-core because they need even more cpu power to render extra pixels. 8960T is just a dual core ver of 1.7G S4 but with a upgraded GPU(Adreno 320).
HTC is really slipping. Three is nothing good about this device. The one thing I hated most about this phone is the terrible memory and HTC made the same mistake again... Better off with the Samsung galaxy s4 or the next nexus device. I strongly recommend skipping any HTC device for a long time.
This is NOT an upgrade to the One S, it's a sad excuse.
Closed Source Project said:
HTC is really slipping. Three is nothing good about this device. The one thing I hated most about this phone is the terrible memory and HTC made the same mistake again... Better off with the Samsung galaxy s4 or the next nexus device. I strongly recommend skipping any HTC device for a long time.
This is NOT an upgrade to the One S, it's a sad excuse.
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Everyone has right on his own opinion, but I completely disagree with you with everything you just said.
I actually LOVE this device! the only thing i would change was the display. It shows quality all around. Incredible sound quality for both headphone and speaker, a slick (aluminum) design, great performance (was the best of its time) and a really really great camera. And although you can't fully unlock it and they released only a partial sourcecode doesn't mean its instantly trash.
Every single thing on the M4 is an upgrade for the One S, besides the CPU. And quite frankly I really don't see the use for a quadcore in a 4.3 inch phone with android 4.2. As the one S proved JB is buttery smooth on this chipset. Yes the IPS display will but its tax on the CPU, but with a lighter (and a lot lighter by the looks of the leaks) sense running on 4.2, I highly doubt you will notice it.
And yes I love the idea of the nexus serie and love the looks of stock android. But I never ever want it as a daily driver. It's just to formal and vannila for my taste. In the Gingerbread and ICS days i would have loved it because it was so much smoother than skinned phones. But JB brought a lot of chance in that, and the phone manufactures really stepped up there game with software development and drivers. Therefor a Nexus phone doesn't have any appeal for me AT ALL.
Re: HTC M4(One S upgrade) finally leaked news!
Great! When this phone comes out, one s prices will drop!
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The specs looks quite ok... But wtf? 1.2Ghz cpu speed? WHY!? Ive downclocked my S to 1.2Ghz a few times to save battery, and the difference is very noticable in speed. The battery I save I lose right away when having to wait extra long for something to finish loading.
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The specs looks quite ok... But wtf? 1.2Ghz cpu speed? WHY!? Ive downclocked my S to 1.2Ghz a few times to save battery, and the difference is very noticable in speed. The battery I save I lose right away when having to wait extra long for something to finish loading.
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Since every other mid-range phone is running S4 1.5G now, I don't think HTC will use 1.2G on their 2013 new phone. Sony's up coming mid-range will use MSM8960T 1.7G dual, I think HTC will just follow Sony.
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Everyone has right on his own opinion, but I completely disagree with you with everything you just said.
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Hey, sorry to forget mention about Xiaom MI-2. We have many chances to use China smartphone/tablet here in Hong Kong. I've to say it depends on your usage.
They are general powerful on hardware and cheap at price because they cut the cost from software development. You have no chance to get a stock rom close to the HTC/Samsung/Sony level, don't even to think get as many updates as HTC. So, the performance totally depends by custom roms and flash rom is almost a necessary on China stuffs. I see Xiaom MI-2 got a dev broad on XDA now.
If you are going to use it with only some general apps and not a heavy usage user, the stock rom may works fine and China stuffs almost never come with google playstore and map and others google apps, you have to get root access and install them by yourself. Not sure about Xiaom MI-2.
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I think apart from the weak cpu clockspeed(hopefully they will change to something like 1.5-1.7ghz), this phone is nice. But I think I am gonna keep my one S for this year and afterwards there will be new phones as well, so no need to buy one. One S is still just fine for everything.
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Hey, sorry to forget mention about Xiaom MI-2. We have many chances to use China smartphone/tablet here in Hong Kong. I've to say it depends on your usage.
They are general powerful on hardware and cheap at price because they cut the cost from software development. You have no chance to get a stock rom close to the HTC/Samsung/Sony level, don't even to think get as many updates as HTC. So, the performance totally depends by custom roms and flash rom is almost a necessary on China stuffs. I see Xiaom MI-2 got a dev broad on XDA now.
If you are going to use it with only some general apps and not a heavy usage user, the stock rom may works fine and China stuffs almost never come with google playstore and map and others google apps, you have to get root access and install them by yourself. Not sure about Xiaom MI-2.
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Thanks for your insight. But I think the MI-2 is worth another look. It's roots in rom development (the famous MIUI rom's) which are so succesfull they started building phones there self. I actually love the software and see more future in than in sense or touchwiz UX. They have monthly updates which are based on the miui community and by the looks of the reviews and benchmarks the firmware seems very optimized (all most the speed of the nexus 4, better audio quality than most high end phones, and photo quality is on par with the iphone and sony/samsung devices).
Many people view this phone as another cheap china phone, but I think it deserves a lot more credit than that. There are reports Xiaomi will bring the MI-2 to the US market this year, and is getting a lot of support all round (did i mention Qualcomm is one of the biggest investors?).
I don't want to sounds like this is the best phone on the market or that I'm completely sure I'm going to get one, i just want to raise it out of the budget phone segment.
HTC One S is ok for the average joe but if you want to...
i have an un branded HTC ONE S, which has been good to me in terms of using custom roms/kernels without too much hassle.
rooting on the other hand was bit of a nightmare, but that was due to me not reading all that i could before i tried, which leads me to the pain in the a** S-ON and having to flash boot kernels/recoveries with ADB (which is no longer a problem with FLASH IMAGE GUI supporting our device)
also the16gb rom is a bit low...would like to have the ability to upgrade to 32
i really dont see too much of an upgrade for our device , the HTC One S is ok for the average joe but if you want to root and mess round with custom roms and kernels, choose another device to upgrade to
This is so annoying. Still using 16 GB of internal memory, and now with 13mp camera (useless) so we can only fit 10 pictures.
Also, I guarantee this is gonna be S4 Plus (not Pro) and therefore it will have the Adreno 305 GPU. The old S4 Plus which the One S has, contains an Adreno 225, which is actually a lot faster than the 305.
So take a slower GPU and pair it with a 720p screen (instead of our 540p), take away some CPU performance as well, and what do you get?
And a 13 mp camera, seriously, I thought the "megapixel race" ended ages ago. How many people actually print out billboards from pictures taken on your phone? Just focus on lens quality and aperture, leave the megapixels at 8. Hell, even 5 is more than enough, I never take pictures at more than 2 mp myself.
HTC is digging its own grave.
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This is so annoying. Still using 16 GB of internal memory, and now with 13mp camera (useless) so we can only fit 10 pictures.
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Lol, bit of an exaggeration there.......
I have had over a 1000 photos (including lots of 1080P and slow motion footage) on my S and still had 5GB left. I don't store any music on my phone so 16GB is more than enough for me and is for many others, nexus 4 16 and 8GB models as well as iphones etc. sell well enough so the ones who want 32GB+ internal and/or a SD slot are in a small minority.
Also, we have no idea yet as to what the camera lens etc. is not to mention software/driver tweaks/optimisation, so how can you judge the camera when the phone specs etc. haven't even been confirmed
Regarding the M7 camera;
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-m7-rumored-carry-43-ultrapixel-camera
So it could be the same for the M4, just the way the camera on the X and S are the same.
HTC obviously has got everything wrong if they expect people to NOT store music on a "beats" branded phone.
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This is so annoying. Still using 16 GB of internal memory, and now with 13mp camera (useless) so we can only fit 10 pictures.
Also, I guarantee this is gonna be S4 Plus (not Pro) and therefore it will have the Adreno 305 GPU. The old S4 Plus which the One S has, contains an Adreno 225, which is actually a lot faster than the 305.
So take a slower GPU and pair it with a 720p screen (instead of our 540p), take away some CPU performance as well, and what do you get?
And a 13 mp camera, seriously, I thought the "megapixel race" ended ages ago. How many people actually print out billboards from pictures taken on your phone? Just focus on lens quality and aperture, leave the megapixels at 8. Hell, even 5 is more than enough, I never take pictures at more than 2 mp myself.
HTC is digging its own grave.
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yup, both CPU/GPU will be slower than One S if it is real using the Qualcomm S4 Plus MSM8930 Dual 1.2G but I doubt that because it will happen the case on One S(S3) again, a great smartphone with slower cpu and terrible sales result.
The M7/M4 will both likely using the technology similar to Foveon X3 RGB 3CMOS on DSLR. It means 3 x 4.3M CMOS combined together to output a 13M photo, you get perfect color and white balance reproduction this time. However, low light and high ISO might be even worse because three CMOS there to share the aperture now, the photo should be darker and more noises appear.
It is absolutely a killer to Nokia Pureview808 and the upcoming Nokia Lumia 950(WP8 with Pureview808) in summer but might not be on the same boat with original One X/S and Nokia 920 which targeted at low lighting environment. I'll see how M7/M4 to handle low light with this new 3CMOS because low light is more important to me.
Re: HTC M4(One S upgrade) finally leaked news!
If you care about low light that mufh, why don't get a dslr?
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gock said:
If you care about low light that mufh, why don't get a dslr?
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Because often when one is in low light conditions and wants to take pictures, they don't usually have their hefty DSLR kit with them. People only carry that stuff around when it's planned. If you go out for some drinks in the evening and want to take some pictures, the One S works wonders, and hence I actually really appreciate its ability to take decent pics in those scenarios without a flash.
Looks like I'll either be skipping an upgrade this year and stick with the One S, or sadly move to a different brand. Unless the M4 turns out to be different.
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Vauix said:
Well I actually lover the cpu choice. Everything runs smooth on this cpu, and with a less heavy skinned Jb (sense 5) this will only improve. Every singel game runs brilliant. I don't think you will notice its downclocked on sense 5 and will bring a lot better battery life I gues.
The display in the one S is great. But when I hold it next to the One X or the SGIII or even the xperia T it really looks dreadfull. The colors and brightness seems fine but compared to these crisp screens it really falls out of the boat.
I'm wondering what the impact will be of a higher res lcd display on the 1.2ghz S4 though.
There are some Sony alternatives. Something I really like about those phones is the waterproof ones. But than again the Sony skin on these phones are just lame. All that grey bled stuff makes it really boring (and ugly), a funeral looks more cheerfull than that.
As I'm looking to replace my One S in march, my preference will still be the Xiaom MI-2.
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And I cant edit my post because my post is to short (less than 2 characters) which its obviously not... So umh.. Yes the S4 Pro quad core is a lot more powerful without sacrificing a lot of battery, but comes with a price tag. And I think this phone will be launched as a sub-high-end alternative for the M7 (like the One S was with the one X).
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Yes, and the lower processing speed will in fact increase the battery life too...
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Here are some photos of the M4:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_m4_appears_in_front_of_the_camera_for_the_first_time-news-5498.php
The M7 specs/design has been confirmed:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_m7_to_launch_on_march_8_in_france_priced_at_650-news-5496.php
The listing also confirms the specifications of HTC M7 to sport a 4.7" Full HD display, 1.7 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon quad-core processor along with 2GB RAM, 32 GB internal memory with microSD support, 4G, NFC, Android Jelly Bean and 2,300mAh battery
Furthermore, HTC M7 will be using a 13-megapixel camera with stacked sensor and ultrapixels for the first time and it will be interesting to see how the camera performs. M7 is also confirmed to feature the latest HTC 5.0 sense and Double HP techno Beats Audio.
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I imagine the black M7 will be similar to the black m4. M4 looks quite curvy/ergonomic and a bit thick so it looks like it will feel comfortable/nice in the hand.
By the looks of it, the speakers are on the front of the M7 too Also I am glad that they aren't going any bigger than 4.7".

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