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Ok Samsung... what's the deal? It is officially the first of December and not any official detail as to when Froyo will be released? What gives? Where's my chippy (aka Froyo). Honeatly they better put the burners on I want this before Christmas. Who's with me?
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Really? What's the point of this thread?
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Really? What's the point of this thread?
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My guess is to show that people don't read other threads on the same topic that state that at&t is the hold-up at this stage and crying about it won't speed things up.
Eh, well that too, but yeah Frozen Yogurt needs to be out now!!!
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Officially, their twitter site has said "By the end of the year". This is the same message for the last few months.
This is funny.
People gripe about the slow updates when Samsung follows AT&T's QA process, but if they had rolled out one of the leaked builds as stock those same people would be screaming because of the bugs in the ROM...
Some people cannot be pleased and IMO Samsung is doing the right thing by taking their time and trying to do it right.
I agree veive, i would much rather have a working update then a quick and buggy one.
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If the Nexus S is basically a Galaxy S in Gingerbread disguise, you'd think Samsung would be bursting at the seams to offer a software upgrade for all the phones it's already sold from that family. Okay, you really wouldn't, but you'd hope that would be the case, right? Well, Pocket-lint prodded Samsung on just that point and managed to finagle the following response from a local UK contact presumably speaking on behalf of the mothership:
"In case a new version of Android operating system is publicly announced and released, Samsung will review the possibility of implementation of such new version to the existing Samsung products with Android operating system ("Update").
Such a review will be based on various factors including, without limitation, the overall effect of such Update to Samsung products, the system requirements, the structural limitations, and the level of cooperation from the component suppliers and the software licensors".
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More here:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/09/samsung-undecided-about-gingerbread-on-galaxy-s-google-says-har/
Nope, the Galaxy S will be getting gingerbread:
http://twitter.com/Samsung_Mobiles/status/12437775529803776
A reporter already touched bases with Samsung, Samsung has claimed to be working on Gingerbread way before Motorola and HTC supposedly because they were experimenting with it on the tablets.
SlimJ87D said:
Nope, the Galaxy S will be getting gingerbread:
http://twitter.com/Samsung_Mobiles/status/12437775529803776
A reporter already touched bases with Samsung, Samsung has claimed to be working on Gingerbread way before Motorola and HTC supposedly because they were experimenting with it on the tablets.
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Both of these pieces of information have been discussed in the Gingerbread thread.
And saying "Nope" doesn't change the fact that the Engadget article is pointing out the same inconsistencies - Samsung UK says "unknown at this time" and as your tweet shows; Samsung India says "yes" - so I think we can agree that the answer is undecided.
No idea why a new thread was started.
alphadog00 said:
Both of these pieces of information have been discussed in the Gingerbread thread.
And saying "Nope" doesn't change the fact that the Engadget article is pointing out the same inconsistencies - Samsung UK says "unknown at this time" and as your tweet shows; Samsung India says "yes" - so I think we can agree that the answer is undecided.
No idea why a new thread was started.
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"UK contact presumably speaking on behalf of the mothership:"
Who is this contact and presume is better way of saying assume.
I truly hope that India is right.
Considering most employee's Twitter use about work is governed by non-disclosure agreements, for an Indian employee to Tweet something like that he is either corect and doing it with company permission, or soon to be fired, correct or not.
A big question is where do Samsung software engineers work?
Maybe they work in India or Korea, who knows. But I think the UK wouldn't have as much knowledge as either of them.
We'll just have to wait and see.
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No idea why a new thread was started.
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You really don't have an idea? It should be quite obvious...I did it to annoy you.
nooomoto said:
You really don't have an idea? It should be quite obvious...I did it to annoy you.
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That and because you probably don't know to search first... standard rookie mistake. But I forgive you.
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That and because you probably don't know to search first... standard rookie mistake. But I forgive you.
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Whew! That was a close one, I wasn't sure if you were going to forgive me or not. Now I can rest easy tonight...I'll post a new thread to let you know.
I apologize for not having superior forum searching skills. I'm so glad that you found the time in your busy day to point out that the link to the article had already been posted in the 8 page long Gingerbread thread, while at the same time offering your analysis of the situation and reaching the conclusion that nothing has been decided. You are truly a shining beacon in the pantheon of multi-tasking.
Really dude, stop being so anal. Everyone on this forum is so pissy. I've been on physics forums that are more light-hearted.
Bravo to the UK rep for giving a nice neutral PC response. He should get a job in politics.
Seriously, what is the rep supposed to say?
"Yes, without question."
"NO, never going to happen. Buy new Samsung products."
Do you think samsung wants to make more money or keep current customers happy?
Because I think they are more after money.
So they in my conclusion they would not make gingerbread FW for SGS.
they would make a whole lot to give us froyo and make the "next gen" phone with Gingerbread and have that updated to whatever is going to be next....h...h...
offtopic... what dessert starts with a h?
sixk said:
Do you think samsung wants to make more money or keep current customers happy?
Because I think they are more after money.
So they in my conclusion they would not make gingerbread FW for SGS.
they would make a whole lot to give us froyo and make the "next gen" phone with Gingerbread and have that updated to whatever is going to be next....h...h...
offtopic... what dessert starts with a h?
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Well making money and keeping your customers go hand in hand.
Honeycomb
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ah... is that the announced name honeycomb???
I didnt look it up haha >_<
anyways technology is changing so fast they cant keep one item for more than 2 years now without it being obselete now.
We have a SGS captivate because we wanted the best...
but for how long?
I am pretty sure by next summer its going to be mid range by than.
So like half the people with a captivate will get the "newest bestest" phone by then because thats what we want. the best tech for that time... well those with money atleast haha
so my point is why waste time on a mid range phone when they can concentrate on a better phone by the time they can put gingerbread into SGS variations.
Also with all the carriers being stingy with froyo... =/
I can only see 1 FW update for new phones lately unless its Dev phones.
Reason why iphone are good is because they can update their fw because all their phones are similar and is on one carrier till they go verizon.
This is just my opinion though
only thing we can do is just wait and see. ^^
have a good day and really I do hope for Gingy for our phones.
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so my point is why waste time on a mid range phone when they can concentrate on a better phone by the time they can put gingerbread into SGS variations.
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Because if you don't treat current customers well it makes it harder to get new customers.
if most customers are like me i had the i8910 hd and changed to captivate to see if they might have better support which is a whole lot better than the i8910.
but really... with tech moving so fast support will only last 2 years the most imho
look at nokia and sony...
they are like that also ^^ not only with phones but with other things.
but everyone has their opinion and story
I guess this is getting more and more off topic
im sorry haha
File this under, I'll believe it when I see it.
Samjunk still hasnt released Froyo for the Captivate yet and people are worried about Gingerbread?
derek4484 said:
File this under, I'll believe it when I see it.
Samjunk still hasnt released Froyo for the Captivate yet and people are worried about Gingerbread?
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Is it Samsung that hasn't release Froyo or the carriers who haven't released it?
derek4484 said:
File this under, I'll believe it when I see it.
Samjunk still hasnt released Froyo for the Captivate yet and people are worried about Gingerbread?
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Blame att not Samsung.
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Ok.. is SG going to give us Gingerbread.. They say they will, but by then we are going to be PAST Honeycomb, they are slow, lazy and do not care. Honestly, they rather sell a new phone with the new OS then just do a free update.
lets be honest, they will give it to us, but by then it will be too late
NOW, lets think about this tho. the Nexus S is a Galaxy S with a twist right. So lets wait till some of the Chefs in the Rom dept give us a ROM unlike anything in efficency that SG will give us.
I mean, do you think the update to Froyo is going to be as good as the stuff that is out already? heck we even have some stable OV-UV HSPA roms out there, stable and all.
I'v had HTC, Samsung, and millions of other phones, i never rely on the manufacture. Heck even the iPhone had such better stuff when it was jailbroken.
just say'n. the newest from the manufactures, will be nothing but just obsolete crap.
I know a lot of y'all have talked about dumping the TBolt in anticipation of the Samsung Galaxy S II coming to verizon with LTE.
Guess that isn't happening:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/25/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-not-coming-to-verizon-after-all/
So, at least for the fall, looks like the droid bionic is the only dualcore lte device to look forward to.
old news http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1234975
yeah, sorry, I actually scanned the headers, but fail verizon, isn't exactly informative of what the thread is about...
Not to mention he didn't post any links to the info.
nrfitchett4 said:
yeah, sorry, I actually scanned the headers, but fail verizon, isn't exactly informative of what the thread is about...
Not to mention he didn't post any links to the info.
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i said where i read it at.
Whoopty do! I don't care about Samsung.
I'm happy with my phone and I love HTC.
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CanesDrew said:
Whoopty do! I don't care about Samsung.
I'm happy with my phone and I love HTC.
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good for you although the world does not revolve around what makes you happy.
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good for you although the world does not revolve around what makes you happy.
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Don't you have another virtual war to start and then abandon?
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I'm not at all unhappy about the SGS2 not coming to VZW. By the time it would have arrived the 720p, 1.5GHz dual core phones (HTC Vigor, Droid HD) would be just a few months away. The SGS2 would have looked seriously outclassed by the next gen devices.
The mobile device space is moving so fast right now. The TB has been the premier phone on VZW for about six months now and has been a great phone after the MR2 update. The Bionic will take its place and will be the king for four or five months and then something better will come along.
No, the galaxy s2 will not be missed.
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Don't you have another virtual war to start and then abandon?
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Maybe you should stop causing wars and then calling on some mod to finish them. Is like the student talking crap then hiding behind the teacher. If you don't care about phones coming out just stay out of these threads all together.
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Grnlantern79 said:
Maybe you should stop causing wars and then calling on some mod to finish them. Is like the student talking crap then hiding behind the teacher. If you don't care about phones coming out just stay out of these threads all together.
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No.
These threads are all started by people that regret buying their current phone in an effort to find like minded people to cohabitate with.
If you don't like your Thunderbolt go buy a different phone. These threads are for things about the Thunderbolt, not for people belly aching and whining about the new(er) doubtfully better stuff.
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CanesDrew said:
No.
These threads are all started by people that regret buying their current phone in an effort to find like minded people to cohabitate with.
If you don't like your Thunderbolt go buy a different phone. These threads are for things about the Thunderbolt, not for people belly aching and whining about the new(er) doubtfully better stuff.
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I love my phone I had posted a simple note about the upcoming HTC vigor (rumor) cause I am very much about HTC phones. And you were still talking trash so don't sit there and play this same old defense cause i never said I didn't like my phone. I don't know why you are always so angry if a post doesn't suit you just stay out of it you don't have to post your two cents to everything cause this is what happens we get off subject, it gets bumped up, read by more people, fight continues and thread gets closed.
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I will also admit that this thread would be better suited in a Samsung forum on this site since it does have to do with a Samsung phone. That is all for now, you r right on that.
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it's one thing to say bye bye to the Thunderbolt... but abandon HTC all together?
for shame!!..
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Honestly don't really care. It got great quadrant scores, but honestly we all know those are meaningless. Be happy with what you have. I might go back to Motorola someday with Droid Bionic or something, but honestly will never go back to Samsung.
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No.
These threads are all started by people that regret buying their current phone in an effort to find like minded people to cohabitate with.
If you don't like your Thunderbolt go buy a different phone. These threads are for things about the Thunderbolt, not for people belly aching and whining about the new(er) doubtfully better stuff.
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actually, I have no interest in another phone at the moment. Just curious for the reaction from all those that were waiting for it.
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_optimus_2x_ics_update_gets_pushed_back_to_q3-news-4233.php
looks like we have to wait even longer
Fuuuuuuuuuuu-
Considering how much trouble they're having with Gingerbread a year in, this is probably a good thing.
Chinese281 said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_optimus_2x_ics_update_gets_pushed_back_to_q3-news-4233.php
looks like we have to wait even longer
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:-(
Those earlier posts with LG reps,etc was indicating this.
Thanks for sharing, though.
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Late is better than never I suppose.
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LG should commit Seppuku
LG's executives should commit Seppuku by jūmonji giri ( 十文字切り ) because of their (LG's) dishonourable conduct. It's the honourable thing for them to do.
Core Memory said:
LG's executives should commit Seppuku by jūmonji giri ( 十文字切り ) because of their (LG's) dishonourable conduct. It's the honourable thing for them to do.
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LG is Korean, not Japanese.
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I would rather the delay than a half ass working version. I will gladly wait a little longer for something that actually works
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I would rather the delay than a half ass working version. I will gladly wait a little longer for something that actually works
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Well if it was half-ass in some respects... we could still just vulture the pieces WE need out...
Right?
Who cares about our O2x brethren!...
Core Memory said:
LG's executives should commit Seppuku by jūmonji giri ( 十文字切り ) because of their (LG's) dishonourable conduct. It's the honourable thing for them to do.
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That's a tad dramatic. I would hate to see what you do if someone cut you off in traffic. Off with their heads?
Most folks have moved on through the grief cycle by now. An official release of ICS will probably not happen. I am not sure why everyone keeps freaking out over it.
No offense Core, but that can not be good for your blood pressure.
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That's a tad dramatic. I would hate to see what you do if someone cut you off in traffic. Off with their heads?
Most folks have moved on through the grief cycle by now. An official release of ICS will probably not happen. I am not sure why everyone keeps freaking out over it.
No offense Core, but that can not be good for your blood pressure.
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oooorrrr its a joke and a pretty good one.
ICS: Q3 2185
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LG has our money already, why the f*$k would they care for us?
They have a massive amount of blind followers who don't mind the wait or don't know what's better for them. You think the small # of people who are angered out-weigh the blind? I think not.
True but if they saw any of the threads or the Facebook posts that are made they would smarten up, their Facebook page has a mass amount of people saying they will never buy an LG product as in no appliances either. I know a whole mess of xda users that aren't even just the g2x or its variants wont purchase again. I've stopped a few people from getting a g2x and other LG androids, cause they had no interest in rooting or modifying the phone. This phone stock, is not at all good enough for any one who depends on their phone. I'm sure the numbers from 2010 -2012 will show some decline.
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LG has our money already, why the f*$k would they care for us?
They have a massive amount of blind followers who don't mind the wait or don't know what's better for them. You think the small # of people who are angered out-weigh the blind? I think not.
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Do they? I mean Apple yea sure, but when's the last time someone has been head over heals for an LG phone? Let alone two people.
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True but if they saw any of the threads or the Facebook posts that are made they would smarten up, their Facebook page has a mass amount of people saying they will never buy an LG product as in no appliances either. I know a whole mess of xda users that aren't even just the g2x or its variants wont purchase again. I've stopped a few people from getting a g2x and other LG androids, cause they had no interest in rooting or modifying the phone. This phone stock, is not at all good enough for any one who depends on their phone. I'm sure the numbers from 2010 -2012 will show some decline.
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Do they? I mean Apple yea sure, but when's the last time someone has been head over heals for an LG phone? Let alone two people.
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From just looking at #'s from IDC, Samsung has dropped in popularity with respects to their sales figures:
Apple Passes LG for 3rd. The fact that LG still beats out HTC. 88.1 Million overall units sold (across their whole product line) is still a LOT.
Last LG phone I ever buy. Hello, Galaxy SIII...
me too even if i love my rooted phone with the genesis rom, the services is slow as snail for upgrading and i'm not surprised that when it comes out in Q3, my rom gonna kick the ass of the ICS update for sure...
Chinese281 said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_optimus_2x_ics_update_gets_pushed_back_to_q3-news-4233.php
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They (LG) doesn't think enough of us to hate us...
Not taking away anything from the work Adam has done on this, we all appreciate it. But:
do you think Verizon had someone leak this after seeing everything they were trying to prevent was being accomplished with rooting and kexec?
No reason to keep getting bad publicity around this and lose customers that actually buy new phones becaus of it, right? It just makes sense, no?
No way...it was unlocked by the hard work of our devs! /Thread
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No way...it was unlocked by the hard work of our devs! /Thread
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I thought they said that an unsecured bootloader was leaked that helped do this.
http://rootzwiki.com/news/_/articles/general/verizons-sgs3-unlocked-thanks-to-leaked-unsecured-bootloader-r1054
The bootloader is from VRALE6. It's older than the first firmware (VRALEC) Samsung gave Verizon.
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The bootloader is from VRALE6. It's older than the first firmware (VRALEC) Samsung gave Verizon.
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samsung leak?
I think that sammy didn't want to spend all that money making a developer version for verizon and instead sammy had someone leak the bootloader instead.
Ya I have a feeling it was from Samsung also.
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Devs had the leak since launch... They were just waiting for the bounty to riseeeee up!!!
VERIZON GALAXY S 3 (CM10)
Wow thats crazy...
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Devs had the leak since launch... They were just waiting for the bounty to riseeeee up!!!
VERIZON GALAXY S 3 (CM10)
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Wtf?
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I think that sammy didn't want to spend all that money making a developer version for verizon and instead sammy had someone leak the bootloader instead.
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I agree more with this statement. Samsung probably didn't want to lock it in the first place, gave it some time and then leaked it out and avoid more bad press.
If Verizon wanted good publicity... they'd just unlock it them self and soak it all in.
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Not taking away anything from the work Adam has done on this, we all appreciate it. But:
do you think Verizon had someone leak this after seeing everything they were trying to prevent was being accomplished with rooting and kexec?
No reason to keep getting bad publicity around this and lose customers that actually buy new phones becaus of it, right? It just makes sense, no?
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nah.
stand back while i put on my tin foil hat
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stand back while i put on my tin foil hat
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You're gong to need to use the heavy duty foil for this one.
That really wouldn't surprise me if Samsung leaked it. Figure all their other phones already have the unlocked bootloader, and even a number of non GS3s from samsung have an unlocked bootloader, they seem to enjoy freedom as much as we do. I feel like they were forced to lock it down because of the big red... they didn't really have much of a choice. It was probably "lock it down or we don't sell it" meaning they would miss sales from the biggest US carrier.
Also, I remember someone mentioning that Samsung sometimes comes to the devs on these forums for help, it was funny because the guy who wrote the article had mentioned how every minute the devs had to spend trying to unlock the bootloader is one more they could have spent helping sammy. Kinda makes sense they would leak it, and in all honesty, we make up such a small part of verizons sales, I don't think they'd really even care that much... at least most of us understand what we're doing before we flash.
It very well could have been samsung that leaked just enough to make the unlock happen. We will never know and its best to just enjoy it and not point any fingers. Dont forget it was our very smart devs and our great community of people that turned that silver into gold.
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Or maybe they just got tired of people bothering their reps with questions about the bootloader... Haha.
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I personally think Sammy handed over the keys and the DEV's made sure it would run. Sammy doesn't want any bad publicity for any reason right now with all the constant battles with the stupid fruit company. I am not taking away any credit towards the DEV's that made this all possible, I am EXTREMELY thankful that they did this for the entire community.
you crazy people all act like "Samsung" is behind this, like the Samsung executives gathered around in a meeting and decided how they would release the unlocked bootloader to take down evil Big Red.
a leak like this is just some low level employee that was just as annoyed as us about the bootloader who is probably gonna get fired for leaking it.
there's no conspiracy.
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