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If the Nexus S is basically a Galaxy S in Gingerbread disguise, you'd think Samsung would be bursting at the seams to offer a software upgrade for all the phones it's already sold from that family. Okay, you really wouldn't, but you'd hope that would be the case, right? Well, Pocket-lint prodded Samsung on just that point and managed to finagle the following response from a local UK contact presumably speaking on behalf of the mothership:
"In case a new version of Android operating system is publicly announced and released, Samsung will review the possibility of implementation of such new version to the existing Samsung products with Android operating system ("Update").
Such a review will be based on various factors including, without limitation, the overall effect of such Update to Samsung products, the system requirements, the structural limitations, and the level of cooperation from the component suppliers and the software licensors".
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More here:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/09/samsung-undecided-about-gingerbread-on-galaxy-s-google-says-har/
Nope, the Galaxy S will be getting gingerbread:
http://twitter.com/Samsung_Mobiles/status/12437775529803776
A reporter already touched bases with Samsung, Samsung has claimed to be working on Gingerbread way before Motorola and HTC supposedly because they were experimenting with it on the tablets.
SlimJ87D said:
Nope, the Galaxy S will be getting gingerbread:
http://twitter.com/Samsung_Mobiles/status/12437775529803776
A reporter already touched bases with Samsung, Samsung has claimed to be working on Gingerbread way before Motorola and HTC supposedly because they were experimenting with it on the tablets.
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Both of these pieces of information have been discussed in the Gingerbread thread.
And saying "Nope" doesn't change the fact that the Engadget article is pointing out the same inconsistencies - Samsung UK says "unknown at this time" and as your tweet shows; Samsung India says "yes" - so I think we can agree that the answer is undecided.
No idea why a new thread was started.
alphadog00 said:
Both of these pieces of information have been discussed in the Gingerbread thread.
And saying "Nope" doesn't change the fact that the Engadget article is pointing out the same inconsistencies - Samsung UK says "unknown at this time" and as your tweet shows; Samsung India says "yes" - so I think we can agree that the answer is undecided.
No idea why a new thread was started.
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"UK contact presumably speaking on behalf of the mothership:"
Who is this contact and presume is better way of saying assume.
I truly hope that India is right.
Considering most employee's Twitter use about work is governed by non-disclosure agreements, for an Indian employee to Tweet something like that he is either corect and doing it with company permission, or soon to be fired, correct or not.
A big question is where do Samsung software engineers work?
Maybe they work in India or Korea, who knows. But I think the UK wouldn't have as much knowledge as either of them.
We'll just have to wait and see.
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No idea why a new thread was started.
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You really don't have an idea? It should be quite obvious...I did it to annoy you.
nooomoto said:
You really don't have an idea? It should be quite obvious...I did it to annoy you.
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That and because you probably don't know to search first... standard rookie mistake. But I forgive you.
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That and because you probably don't know to search first... standard rookie mistake. But I forgive you.
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Whew! That was a close one, I wasn't sure if you were going to forgive me or not. Now I can rest easy tonight...I'll post a new thread to let you know.
I apologize for not having superior forum searching skills. I'm so glad that you found the time in your busy day to point out that the link to the article had already been posted in the 8 page long Gingerbread thread, while at the same time offering your analysis of the situation and reaching the conclusion that nothing has been decided. You are truly a shining beacon in the pantheon of multi-tasking.
Really dude, stop being so anal. Everyone on this forum is so pissy. I've been on physics forums that are more light-hearted.
Bravo to the UK rep for giving a nice neutral PC response. He should get a job in politics.
Seriously, what is the rep supposed to say?
"Yes, without question."
"NO, never going to happen. Buy new Samsung products."
Do you think samsung wants to make more money or keep current customers happy?
Because I think they are more after money.
So they in my conclusion they would not make gingerbread FW for SGS.
they would make a whole lot to give us froyo and make the "next gen" phone with Gingerbread and have that updated to whatever is going to be next....h...h...
offtopic... what dessert starts with a h?
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Do you think samsung wants to make more money or keep current customers happy?
Because I think they are more after money.
So they in my conclusion they would not make gingerbread FW for SGS.
they would make a whole lot to give us froyo and make the "next gen" phone with Gingerbread and have that updated to whatever is going to be next....h...h...
offtopic... what dessert starts with a h?
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Well making money and keeping your customers go hand in hand.
Honeycomb
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ah... is that the announced name honeycomb???
I didnt look it up haha >_<
anyways technology is changing so fast they cant keep one item for more than 2 years now without it being obselete now.
We have a SGS captivate because we wanted the best...
but for how long?
I am pretty sure by next summer its going to be mid range by than.
So like half the people with a captivate will get the "newest bestest" phone by then because thats what we want. the best tech for that time... well those with money atleast haha
so my point is why waste time on a mid range phone when they can concentrate on a better phone by the time they can put gingerbread into SGS variations.
Also with all the carriers being stingy with froyo... =/
I can only see 1 FW update for new phones lately unless its Dev phones.
Reason why iphone are good is because they can update their fw because all their phones are similar and is on one carrier till they go verizon.
This is just my opinion though
only thing we can do is just wait and see. ^^
have a good day and really I do hope for Gingy for our phones.
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so my point is why waste time on a mid range phone when they can concentrate on a better phone by the time they can put gingerbread into SGS variations.
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Because if you don't treat current customers well it makes it harder to get new customers.
if most customers are like me i had the i8910 hd and changed to captivate to see if they might have better support which is a whole lot better than the i8910.
but really... with tech moving so fast support will only last 2 years the most imho
look at nokia and sony...
they are like that also ^^ not only with phones but with other things.
but everyone has their opinion and story
I guess this is getting more and more off topic
im sorry haha
File this under, I'll believe it when I see it.
Samjunk still hasnt released Froyo for the Captivate yet and people are worried about Gingerbread?
derek4484 said:
File this under, I'll believe it when I see it.
Samjunk still hasnt released Froyo for the Captivate yet and people are worried about Gingerbread?
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Is it Samsung that hasn't release Froyo or the carriers who haven't released it?
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File this under, I'll believe it when I see it.
Samjunk still hasnt released Froyo for the Captivate yet and people are worried about Gingerbread?
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Blame att not Samsung.
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Ok.. is SG going to give us Gingerbread.. They say they will, but by then we are going to be PAST Honeycomb, they are slow, lazy and do not care. Honestly, they rather sell a new phone with the new OS then just do a free update.
lets be honest, they will give it to us, but by then it will be too late
NOW, lets think about this tho. the Nexus S is a Galaxy S with a twist right. So lets wait till some of the Chefs in the Rom dept give us a ROM unlike anything in efficency that SG will give us.
I mean, do you think the update to Froyo is going to be as good as the stuff that is out already? heck we even have some stable OV-UV HSPA roms out there, stable and all.
I'v had HTC, Samsung, and millions of other phones, i never rely on the manufacture. Heck even the iPhone had such better stuff when it was jailbroken.
just say'n. the newest from the manufactures, will be nothing but just obsolete crap.
I think that the update/ota has not been pushed out yet. We are all just lab rats to test this update floating around XDA, so that when the update is pushed out two or three weeks from now, they can fix what we complain about until then. What do you all think?
Here is a link to Google forums I started about the sick color of the screen.
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=26fa0683976754c4&hl=en
jalyn02 said:
I think that the update/ota has not been pushed out yet. We are all just lab rats to test this update floating around XDA, so that when the update is pushed out two or three weeks from now, they can fix what we complain about until then. What do you all think?
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Google has not posted links to OTA's historically - so I don't see where that factors in.
I think you can take the fact that Google announced it was rolling out and that end user devices are receiving it (not just google employees and media units) to be a pretty good sign that it's the final OTA. As well as the fact that there are several upgrade paths provided.
On the Nexus One several "leaked" OTAs were available but they only went to google employees and media devices and provided only 1 upgrade path, from the base T-Mo version - and then only incremental upgrades for each version thereafter. The AT&T rev was left out in the cold until the final OTA at which point an OTA package was made available for every build to the final (including the leaked OTAs).
This isn't to say they won't release something in the coming weeks if they feel there are some real issues with the OTA, but given the way they've done OTAs in the past, this looks to be the OTA for 2.3.3
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I think that the update/ota has not been pushed out yet. We are all just lab rats to test this update floating around XDA, so that when the update is pushed out two or three weeks from now, they can fix what we complain about until then. What do you all think?
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I think this thread is unnecessary and you just like to complain.
There is a new link out now.so there are 3 different updates out floating around in forum
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Well that's your opinion. here's my opinion, I have had 6 unlocked android phones and each of them had issues the Vibrant/Nuxus One/Nexus S/Evo 4G/Mytouch 3G/T-Mobile G2...Did i mention that the only one that ever rebooted on me in important phone calls was the Nexus S. I'm sorry if I can't hold my breath anymore,I guess i'm not the only one because you just trolled/flamed 2 of my threads.
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I think this thread is unnecessary and you just like to complain.
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There is a new link out now.so there are 3 different updates out floating around in forum
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whats the difference between them?
If that is the case, you bought a dev phone. Why would you be suprised?
Well, dev phones should not be sold to the public, and not sold for almost 600 big one's.
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If that is the case, you bought a dev phone. Why would you be suprised?
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Well, dev phones should not be sold to the public, and not sold for almost 600 big one's.
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you had the choice,you chosen the nexus S.
google didnt force you!
every phone has isue's
doesn't matter what OS is on it.
so live with it.
and get 2.3.3!! it got fixed okey?
people like you are getting really irritating for advance nexus user's
accept the pakage you bought.
they didnt force you.
I am a nexus s owner and i am happy that the update has fixed my issues with the phone not being able to make calls for the first month i had it, i love the device and am relieved i got to keep it,
I do however find the comment above wholy unjustified, rude and ignorant!
Never once have i seen this branded as "the dev phone" the only place ive seen that mentioned is ...well ...on xda the DEVELOPER forum.
I love the phone, i love this site, but are retarded unempathic rants at people who have clearly been mis-sold a device not to their preference actually appropriate? i think not!
Lovely device, sooooo glad i didnt have to take it back (i spent the first month thinking i may have to do just that).
Now try be a little more kind to people that have bought a handset they expected to act as one from the start. there is no mention of dev or test phone on tha packaging so i am sure trading standards would side with the customer with problems rather than some jumped up little dev who thinks he knows best (that let's down all them lovely kind and considerate dev's in the proccess).
Rant over sorry (really hate seeing people be so obnocious)
Loving this lil device
I know that a Q3 release of Gingerbread for the HTC Thunderbolt is sort of assumed at this point since they missed their Q2 deadline, but we wanted to point out that HTC service reps have been given the “OK” to spread the word. One of our readers reached out to express his concerns over the various problems with his device and received a response back that included word on the update:
…We will certainly pass along your concerns to the developers at HTC. We are working hard to address the issues you have mentioned with future updates for the device. We are excited to announce that the HTC Thunderbolt will receive the Gingerbread (Android 2.3) update in Q3 2011. Stay tuned for details as we get closer to the update availability…
Not surprising of course since we are already in Q3, but that should at least narrow it down to some time within the next 8 weeks. Uggh. And still no word on the original Incredible – we’re thinking Q3 for it as well, though.
Cheers Todd!
yawn...........
I'll wait until I actually see a released gingerbread update.
It cracks me up how the same reps told everyone that the TB is getting GB by the end of the 2Q and that never happened. Now the same people give a new timeline and we are suppose to believe them? Why is this even news?
Same for the Incredible. We were given end of June, then July, now nothing.
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XRSTOY1 said:
I know that a Q3 release of Gingerbread for the HTC Thunderbolt is sort of assumed at this point since they missed their Q2 deadline, but we wanted to point out that HTC service reps have been given the “OK” to spread the word. One of our readers reached out to express his concerns over the various problems with his device and received a response back that included word on the update:
…We will certainly pass along your concerns to the developers at HTC. We are working hard to address the issues you have mentioned with future updates for the device. We are excited to announce that the HTC Thunderbolt will receive the Gingerbread (Android 2.3) update in Q3 2011. Stay tuned for details as we get closer to the update availability…
Not surprising of course since we are already in Q3, but that should at least narrow it down to some time within the next 8 weeks. Uggh. And still no word on the original Incredible – we’re thinking Q3 for it as well, though.
Cheers Todd!
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I gave you a thanks, literally for nothing.
This is why XDA shouldn't let people with 4 posts start new threads. WAKE UP MODERATORS!!!
HERE WE GO AGAIN WITH THE SPECULATIONS ON UPDATE why bother their just cutting the cord on frankinbolt
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CanesDrew said:
I gave you a thanks, literally for nothing.
This is why XDA shouldn't let people with 4 posts start new threads. WAKE UP MODERATORS!!!
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If you don't like it, just report it. They'll take a look at it quickly.
its funny how the most hype 4G device is getting treated like this. Other phones are getting GB before the TB sigh
Gotta wonder why they are treating this phone this way? Strange
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I gave you a thanks, literally for nothing.
This is why XDA shouldn't let people with 4 posts start new threads. WAKE UP MODERATORS!!!
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At least its in the right section
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They're treating it strange? This is the first LTE device. It's clearly not sorted out yet. It's a little more complexe than a dInc2. Other than making your phone slower and eat more power, why is gingerbread this magic unicorn? I heartlessly laughed and made fun of the morons that brought us this quackery the last time, and I'm gonna do it again. Just like I laughed at the hollow heads that believed a real Verizon rep was posting on her.... With all of 8 posts under her belt. STUPID.
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They're treating it strange? This is the first LTE device. It's clearly not sorted out yet. It's a little more complexe than a dInc2. Other than making your phone slower and eat more power, why is gingerbread this magic unicorn? I heartlessly laughed and made fun of the morons that brought us this quackery the last time, and I'm gonna do it again. Just like I laughed at the hollow heads that believed a real Verizon rep was posting on her.... With all of 8 posts under her belt. STUPID.
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Exactly! People complain about the battery but this phone does, for all intents and purposes, the same things as their PC's at home. They're on it constantly and then complain when it dies in six hours. Most standard laptop batteries don't last six hours.
People will never be happy and will continue to blame the networks and the manufacturers for being at fault.
This is why we root and this is why we continue to support our developers.
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They're treating it strange? This is the first LTE device. It's clearly not sorted out yet. It's a little more complexe than a dInc2. Other than making your phone slower and eat more power, why is gingerbread this magic unicorn? I heartlessly laughed and made fun of the morons that brought us this quackery the last time, and I'm gonna do it again. Just like I laughed at the hollow heads that believed a real Verizon rep was posting on her.... With all of 8 posts under her belt. STUPID.
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I believe we do have a confirmed Verizon rep (or two) here on XDA, just like we have SamsungJohn...
Regardless, rumor threads should be locked after the first post, since there are no facts and it seems EVERYONE has an opinion. On that note...
LOCKED!
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_optimus_2x_ics_update_gets_pushed_back_to_q3-news-4233.php
looks like we have to wait even longer
Fuuuuuuuuuuu-
Considering how much trouble they're having with Gingerbread a year in, this is probably a good thing.
Chinese281 said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_optimus_2x_ics_update_gets_pushed_back_to_q3-news-4233.php
looks like we have to wait even longer
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:-(
Those earlier posts with LG reps,etc was indicating this.
Thanks for sharing, though.
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Late is better than never I suppose.
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LG should commit Seppuku
LG's executives should commit Seppuku by jūmonji giri ( 十文字切り ) because of their (LG's) dishonourable conduct. It's the honourable thing for them to do.
Core Memory said:
LG's executives should commit Seppuku by jūmonji giri ( 十文字切り ) because of their (LG's) dishonourable conduct. It's the honourable thing for them to do.
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LG is Korean, not Japanese.
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I would rather the delay than a half ass working version. I will gladly wait a little longer for something that actually works
r.snyder said:
I would rather the delay than a half ass working version. I will gladly wait a little longer for something that actually works
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Well if it was half-ass in some respects... we could still just vulture the pieces WE need out...
Right?
Who cares about our O2x brethren!...
Core Memory said:
LG's executives should commit Seppuku by jūmonji giri ( 十文字切り ) because of their (LG's) dishonourable conduct. It's the honourable thing for them to do.
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That's a tad dramatic. I would hate to see what you do if someone cut you off in traffic. Off with their heads?
Most folks have moved on through the grief cycle by now. An official release of ICS will probably not happen. I am not sure why everyone keeps freaking out over it.
No offense Core, but that can not be good for your blood pressure.
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That's a tad dramatic. I would hate to see what you do if someone cut you off in traffic. Off with their heads?
Most folks have moved on through the grief cycle by now. An official release of ICS will probably not happen. I am not sure why everyone keeps freaking out over it.
No offense Core, but that can not be good for your blood pressure.
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oooorrrr its a joke and a pretty good one.
ICS: Q3 2185
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LG has our money already, why the f*$k would they care for us?
They have a massive amount of blind followers who don't mind the wait or don't know what's better for them. You think the small # of people who are angered out-weigh the blind? I think not.
True but if they saw any of the threads or the Facebook posts that are made they would smarten up, their Facebook page has a mass amount of people saying they will never buy an LG product as in no appliances either. I know a whole mess of xda users that aren't even just the g2x or its variants wont purchase again. I've stopped a few people from getting a g2x and other LG androids, cause they had no interest in rooting or modifying the phone. This phone stock, is not at all good enough for any one who depends on their phone. I'm sure the numbers from 2010 -2012 will show some decline.
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LG has our money already, why the f*$k would they care for us?
They have a massive amount of blind followers who don't mind the wait or don't know what's better for them. You think the small # of people who are angered out-weigh the blind? I think not.
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Do they? I mean Apple yea sure, but when's the last time someone has been head over heals for an LG phone? Let alone two people.
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True but if they saw any of the threads or the Facebook posts that are made they would smarten up, their Facebook page has a mass amount of people saying they will never buy an LG product as in no appliances either. I know a whole mess of xda users that aren't even just the g2x or its variants wont purchase again. I've stopped a few people from getting a g2x and other LG androids, cause they had no interest in rooting or modifying the phone. This phone stock, is not at all good enough for any one who depends on their phone. I'm sure the numbers from 2010 -2012 will show some decline.
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Do they? I mean Apple yea sure, but when's the last time someone has been head over heals for an LG phone? Let alone two people.
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From just looking at #'s from IDC, Samsung has dropped in popularity with respects to their sales figures:
Apple Passes LG for 3rd. The fact that LG still beats out HTC. 88.1 Million overall units sold (across their whole product line) is still a LOT.
Last LG phone I ever buy. Hello, Galaxy SIII...
me too even if i love my rooted phone with the genesis rom, the services is slow as snail for upgrading and i'm not surprised that when it comes out in Q3, my rom gonna kick the ass of the ICS update for sure...
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http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_optimus_2x_ics_update_gets_pushed_back_to_q3-news-4233.php
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They (LG) doesn't think enough of us to hate us...
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*SIGHS*
Meanie face... *pouts in corner*
d**k <----oo
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This has to be the most immature thing I've seen here in a while. Like people have said, it wasnt funny the first time.
Gary, you have a penchant for bragging about being some great dev, professionally and otherwise, so start acting like it. These types of threads dont help, and add nothing to the discourse. It just makes you look worse.
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This has to be the most immature thing I've seen here in a while.
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Which part of this is immature? The part where I made sure that the sarcasm was in the first dozen characters of the message body - so that a mouse hover over the subject in the topic list would reveal it?
Or the part where I'm expressing my continued annoyance with the complete lack of realistic response from Samsung on this? (which is the point of the messsage - in case you missed it.)
As for being a great developer - this is actually quite tame compared to some of the things those better than myself (both of them, actually) have to say about samsung, HTC, and others.
I'm merely repeating what samsung's marketing department is already doing: Talking about a great ICS upgrade coming to these devices, but leaving the page blank when asked WHEN it's coming.
As for how it might make me look - I honestly couldn't care less. Because it seems to matter to you, however, I'll reveal that I didn't bother to shave this morning, and I haven't taken a shower since last night. Oh, and my shirt is wrinkled. (That has nothing to do with maturity - it's just laziness.)
Take care
Gary
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night. Oh, and my shirt is wrinkled. (That has nothing to do with maturity - it's just laziness.)
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Thanks to Robyr, I was inspired to care how I might look. Therefore, I changed my shirt. Now it's not wrinkled. Thank you, robyr, for improving the world.
(Actually, I changed it because my cat decided to shed all over me. I just thought I'd BS a little. Perhaps it'll make someone feel more significant.)
Yeah gary, stop posting threads that play with the disrespect of samsung for us.
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Yeah gary, stop posting threads that play with the disrespect of samsung for us.
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Really... Wow. This is NOTHING compared to the comments I post on google+ whenever one of the samsung people write about their upgrades, new hardware, and support policies.
It should say 'Coming soon!' or 'Error Code 404: Page cannot be found'.
garyd9, At first glance I was kinda pissed about this thread then I saw the sarcastic humor in in. Then I laughed. Thanks for making my day.
I just hope that once ICS drops there is enough source to get CM9 to this device. The current ROM is laggy as hell. A nice ASOP option would be wonderful.
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I just hope that once ICS drops there is enough source to get CM9 to this device. The current ROM is laggy as hell. A nice ASOP option would be wonderful.
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I'd be dishonest if I didn't say that I'm close to giving up hope for this tablet. Samsung is treating it as a red-headed stepchild, and won't even release the full honeycomb sources so that the dev community can pick up the pieces and fix that which they either don't care about or don't have the resources to fix.
However, its not just this one tablet. I'm starting to notice a pattern with samsung... they do make nice devices, but once they have your money, you apparently are nothing more than excess baggage to them. Instead of giving us good support, releasing GPL'd source code, and delivering upgrades that they promised, they gave us an app we can use to complain with. I guess having an app spitting out scripted responses is cheaper than having a human doing it. It's not like you really need a human to say "it's coming soon."
They have resources developing a dozen new devices at a time (given their rate of new product announcement), but what resources are fixing the issues and keeping their existing product lines current? It doesn't seem like much.
Since ICS was released on the GSM galaxy nexus (8 months ago), how many new products has samsung released or announced? A couple tablets, and several new phones. How many existing products (which were promised ICS upgrades) have received that upgrade? Two (and at least the SGSII release was very buggy.)
Keep in mind that samsung has had the ICS sources for quite a bit longer than other companies.. Yet, other companies are upgrading their existing devices long before samsung is. Look, for example, at Asus tablets.
What does that tell me? It tells me that if I buy a samsung device, they'll treat me well for the 14 day return period, and then treat me like dirt. It tells me that a samsung device is a FOOLISH investment.
Samsung, you will NOT be getting my money for my next tablet purchase. I don't care how thin it is or how fast it might be. I'd rather have a supported product that's slightly thicker or has a slightly slower processor.
Take care
Gary
If I get a Samsung device I think it would be a Nexus as google should provide better support.
I've got a Galaxy S Vibrant and Gingerbread hasn't even been released for it. Thanks to developers here on XDA it's running ICS.
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If I get a Samsung device I think it would be a Nexus as google should provide better support.
I've got a Galaxy S Vibrant and Gingerbread hasn't even been released for it. Thanks to developers here on XDA it's running ICS.
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Well you have to blame T-mobile on this. They are in control. Vibrant 4G has GB, Captivate on both Rogers and AT&T get GB, i9000 got GB long before that.
What is with ICS for GT-6201(EU 3g)? I Only see 6200 and 6210(EU wifi).
Can anyone help me?
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What is with ICS for GT-6201(EU 3g)? I Only see 6200 and 6210(EU wifi).
Can anyone help me?
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same as with the one for GT P6200..STILL NOTHING!
but check out aorth's CM9 thread
Thanks bro, i have also a HD2 with ICS and the performance is awesome. So my tablet is making me crazy with the 3.2 version.