Greetings folks,
I apologize for posting this in this forum especially if a question has already been answered similar to what I'm asking but I can't seem to find a solution specifically to the problem that I am facing so I come to you all for help.
I have this brand new SCH-i510 Droid Charge by Verizon. I would like to use the phone but on T-Mobile's network and this phone does have a slot where a SIM card is installed. However when I try to put my working T-Mobile's SIM card (the one that they've issued me) into the Droid Charge phone, of course the phone will say that the SIM card is from an unknown source. Now keep in mind that since the phone is brand new, this phone want's me to initially set the phone up which means going through the setup of the SIM card, which is the first thing. So I can't. Now if I had a SIM card just laying around the house from Verizon, at least it would get me past this screen, but out of all the junk that I have horded over the years, I can't find one from Verizon.
I have, on the other hand, played with some ROM's to where I had to use the ODIN program and have successfully gotten myself past this screen without the use of the SIM card but I can not remember how in the hell I did it.
Is there any way that I can basically use ODIN to unlock this phone to where I can use it on T-Mobile's network and at the same time get it rooted as well??
I've had this phone for two months and the only thing that I've been able to use it for is to show off to my friends that I have one but put it away before any of them ask to play with it only to find out that it's still unusable?
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated!! I mean A LOT!!!
Sincerely,
Leonard Peacock
get a prepaid verizon sim, why would you use it on tmo anyway verizons 4g blows it out of the water !!
This phone will never work on T-Mobile's network. This phone is CDMA. T-Mobile is GSM. A CDMA phone will never be able to connect to a GSM network. The SIM in this phone is for LTE, not GSM.
The LTE radio in the Charge uses the SIM, and AFAIK, the LTE radio doesn't use the same frequency as any of T-Mobile's bands.
Please be a troll...I just laughed while reading this.
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Ain't gonna happen
The Droid Charge/SCH-i510 uses CDMA for everything EXCEPT 4G. The SIM card is ONLY for 4G data connectivity. You can still use the phone with Wifi on no network. If you can't get past the login screen, I suggest flashing a new ROM (like Team Black Hat's GB2.3.6 rooted/deodexed/debloated) with Odin. If you can get an unlock code for the phone, you may be able to use it on Sprint's network. Verizon may give you an unlock code if you're a current and loyal customer. Otherwise, there are various semi-reliable Googleable ways to unlock it (sometimes requiring payment to sketchy 3rd party companies).
Some bad news
Sorry, but it's not possible... The sim card is only for LTE, and the phone contains no GSM ratio, thus can't be used on T-Mobile's network, unless tmobile decides to use LTE on the same bands as Verizon, and switch their network over to CDMA, also, you would have to flash the phone and unlock it.
Jayjaymac said:
Sorry, but it's not possible... The sim card is only for LTE, and the phone contains no GSM ratio, thus can't be used on T-Mobile's network, unless tmobile decides to use LTE on the same bands as Verizon, and switch their network over to CDMA, also, you would have to flash the phone and unlock it.
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Way to drag up an old thread and give the same answer that was already given
Jayjaymac said:
Sorry, but it's not possible... The sim card is only for LTE, and the phone contains no GSM ratio, thus can't be used on T-Mobile's network, unless tmobile decides to use LTE on the same bands as Verizon, and switch their network over to CDMA, also, you would have to flash the phone and unlock it.
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Ok ,can Voice work on any other networks other than Verizon,can the CDMA VIA chipset be reprogramed to work for Voice rather than data.Any program to access the VIA chipset as QPST does not help here(Qualcom).
imagecolour said:
Ok ,can Voice work on any other networks other than Verizon,can the CDMA VIA chipset be reprogramed to work for Voice rather than data.Any program to access the VIA chipset as QPST does not help here(Qualcom).
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All phone functions run off of the SIM card. Unless you figure out how to unlink the two radios somehow, the Charge is VZW only as far as a Phone goes.
What they are saying can be challenged, remember the blackberry storm, that phone is on verizon and ive seen it operate on verizon at&t and straight talk, so its possible. Google sim-unlock and search for the unlock code but its expensive. By the way the droid 2 global is verizon cdma but its also cdma.
doe101 said:
What they are saying can be challenged, remember the blackberry storm, that phone is on verizon and ive seen it operate on verizon at&t and straight talk, so its possible. Google sim-unlock and search for the unlock code but its expensive. By the way the droid 2 global is verizon cdma but its also cdma.
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The bb storm and Droid 2 global were "world" phones. This one is not. It contains no edge, umts, hspa, or hspa+ radios or a sim card slot for such radios and therefore cannot operate on t-mobile's network.
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Heres an idea; instead of making things hard on yourself by trying to do the impossible; sell your charge and buy a tmobile phone.
+1
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doe101 said:
What they are saying can be challenged, remember the blackberry storm, that phone is on verizon and ive seen it operate on verizon at&t and straight talk, so its possible. Google sim-unlock and search for the unlock code but its expensive. By the way the droid 2 global is verizon cdma but its also cdma.
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Hmmmm, posting on a thread that's been inactive for two months? Looks like someone's trying to get their post count to 10
If you have a contract phone with verizon for at least 30 days they will give you an unlock code
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Even if they would, it will never work on T-Mobile or at&t. Like everyone else has said, this phone doesn't contain the proper hardware to connect to their networks. If you look elsewhere on this board, people have been unsuccessful even getting it to connect to other CDMA networks.
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It does not have a slim slot, it has a VERIZON 4G slim slot. Verizon, verizon, Verizon,
Again, Verizon. They won't even activate it on verizon prepaid, I tried.
Again, Verizon only!
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motorola bionic 4g verzion can work on t-mobile
brd912 said:
It does not have a slim slot, it has a VERIZON 4G slim slot. Verizon, verizon, Verizon,
Again, Verizon. They won't even activate it on verizon prepaid, I tried.
Again, Verizon only!
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why not and why can?
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Well here is an interesting tidbit, I just got my Nexus 6P as a device for driving for Lyft and after booting the Nexus with the Project FI Sim card to register it on the network I realized I didn't need two phones to drive for two providers so I dropped my T-Mo sim card in the nexus 6P as as expected she fired right up on the T-Mo network and I had no where to keep the G-FI Sim card, out of fear of losing it i popped into my Note 5. Well I shut down the N-5 and kept playing with the Nexus 6P. In the morning I tuned on the N-5 to swap and copy files and the T-Mo update rolled in with full 4g LTE % bars. So it seems our Note 5 will definitely run on the Google FI network at full speed FYI. See Upper Left Corner of Note 5 http:
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That's pretty interesting. Do you think it has to do with Project Fi using the Tmo network? If that's the case, then theoretically any unlocked Tmo phone should run on Fi
Well I think that's a stretch but our phone has almost every existing band which could also be a factor I'm sure. I have yet to drive all around Los Angeles or out of the county or state of CA but I will report my findings as I do travel. But none the less its a great discovery for sure.
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It would be interesting to see if it can actually switch between the different networks through. I know that you need Google Connectivity Services installed on a Fi device for proper functionality, and it does show as compatible with the Note 5. But if we don't have Sprint bands in our phone, then you'd be SOL as soon as you got out of T-Mobile or trusted WiFi coverage.
True, I haven't yet sat down and looked at Sprints cdma bands but I bet they are in this device.
The Fi SIM will only work on T-Mobile. It will NOT work on Sprint, in this configuration.
The Nexus's ESNs are whitelisted with Sprint, I believe.
wifiguru said:
The Fi SIM will only work on T-Mobile. It will NOT work on Sprint, in this configuration.
The Nexus's ESNs are whitelisted with Sprint, I believe.
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That hypothesis of not working on Sprint would seem highly improbable as long as a phone is unlocked and the device and sim card are not carrier specific the device should work as my phone is now as long ...again as the phone has the carrier bands to run on that network...as stated here on the Nexus 5: http://www.idigitaltimes.com/project-fi-nexus-5-how-bypass-googles-nexus-6-exclusivity-453947 . I have turned off WIFI calling and called my office...see here: http://www.androidheadlines.com/2015/06/project-fi-works-nexus-6-xda-begs-differ.html
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That hypothesis of not working on Sprint would seem highly improbable as long as a phone is unlocked and the device and sim card are not carrier specific the device should work as my phone is now as long ...again as the phone has the carrier bands to run on that network...as stated here on the Nexus 5: http://www.idigitaltimes.com/project-fi-nexus-5-how-bypass-googles-nexus-6-exclusivity-453947 . I have turned off WIFI calling and called my office...see here: http://www.androidheadlines.com/2015/06/project-fi-works-nexus-6-xda-begs-differ.html
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There's no hypothesis here, it is proven fact.
Sprint has a whitelist of IMEIs/ESN.
Put a Fi sim in a non-Fi phone, and it will not connect to Sprint -- no matter what you try to do.
Put a Fi sim in an unlocked Sprint device, and I bet it will work.
wifiguru said:
There's no hypothesis here, it is proven fact.
Sprint has a whitelist of IMEIs/ESN.
Put a Fi sim in a non-Fi phone, and it will not connect to Sprint -- no matter what you try to do.
Put a Fi sim in an unlocked Sprint device, and I bet it will work.
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How does Sprint tell the difference from device to device? Do you think Sprint had all the Nexus 6 IMEI's that exist or were made released to them so they could specifically either admit or omit them?? Show me the FACT my phone is blacklisted? Where are you getting your information can you provide some links to relevant content?
wifiguru said:
There's no hypothesis here, it is proven fact.
Sprint has a whitelist of IMEIs/ESN.
What are the criteria for Whitelisted Devices and where is this data?
This is an excerpt from a discussion that a Nexus 6 user had trying to port over to "Sprint Only" not running on the FI network....again this is ONLY..Fully porting over to Sprint:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ProjectFi/...g_nexus_6_to_sprint_after_leaving_project_fi/
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How does Sprint tell the difference from device to device? Do you think Sprint had all the Nexus 6 IMEI's that exist or were made released to them so they could specifically either admit or omit them?? Show me the FACT my phone is blacklisted? Where are you getting your information can you provide some links to relevant content?
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Another issue with Sprint devices is that they still do not rely solely on the SIM for programming. When Verizon made the switch to LTE, all programming follows their SIM as you change phones. But with Sprint, pulling a SIM leaves you with a working device, just no LTE. So that is likely why it won't automatically jump to their network.
wifiguru said:
There's no hypothesis here, it is proven fact.
Sprint has a whitelist of IMEIs/ESN.
Put a Fi sim in a non-Fi phone, and it will not connect to Sprint -- no matter what you try to do.
Put a Fi sim in an unlocked Sprint device, and I bet it will work.
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This is an excerpt from a different experience than wifiguru is stating here although it appears it worked at startup and seemed to from what the user stated failed:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...SIM-and-use-it-in-an-unlocked-Sprint-iPhone-6
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Google has already said it will work for other phones in the future. The service runs on a hybrid sim that allows it to go back and forth. Supposedly even older Nexus phones can't read this sim. But Project Fi is an Android only project. Just as the new iPhone sim will not work in an Android phone, this new sim will not work in an iPhone. Even if there was a work around for it, Apple would probably make a new update to lock the phones into reading only the new Apple sim.
Actually - I started searching today to see if anyone else had tried this yet, and while I didn't search too hard - the lack of replies on this thread might tell me something.
I got my Nexus 6 yesterday. I like the phone, but the service ... still not sure if I'm going to keep it. The voice quality sounds somewhat compressed and it is difficult to hear people sometimes.
However, I was bored at work today - or kind of bored - and decided to put the Project Fi SIM in my iPhone 6 (Verizon)
I was expecting it to tell me that the SIM card wasn't approved for use in this device, but to my surprise it actually connected to Sprint and I had LTE. So, I found out my iPhone is unlocked (w00t).
I tried to make a call, and I heard a blip (like a fraction of a fraction of a second of a voice), a few seconds of silence, and then the generic cannot complete this call (Probably because the device isn't provisioned for use on the Sprint Network).
I restarted the phone, and when I restarted it - it connected to T-Mobile.
So I tried to make a call, and it worked - it went through
So, I dug around in the settings on my iPhone, and a menu called "Carrier" showed up on the main screen, and when I opened it it said "Automatically Manage Networks" or something to that effect.
I turned that option off, and it scanned for about a minute and came back with a list of Mobile Networks:
T-Mobile
Sprint
Verizon
AT&T
Metro PCS
wiseguyy said:
This is an excerpt from a different experience than wifiguru is stating here although it appears it worked at startup and seemed to from what the user stated failed:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...SIM-and-use-it-in-an-unlocked-Sprint-iPhone-6
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Quote Originally Posted by J Wireless View Post
Google has already said it will work for other phones in the future. The service runs on a hybrid sim that allows it to go back and forth. Supposedly even older Nexus phones can't read this sim. But Project Fi is an Android only project. Just as the new iPhone sim will not work in an Android phone, this new sim will not work in an iPhone. Even if there was a work around for it, Apple would probably make a new update to lock the phones into reading only the new Apple sim.
Actually - I started searching today to see if anyone else had tried this yet, and while I didn't search too hard - the lack of replies on this thread might tell me something.
I got my Nexus 6 yesterday. I like the phone, but the service ... still not sure if I'm going to keep it. The voice quality sounds somewhat compressed and it is difficult to hear people sometimes.
However, I was bored at work today - or kind of bored - and decided to put the Project Fi SIM in my iPhone 6 (Verizon)
I was expecting it to tell me that the SIM card wasn't approved for use in this device, but to my surprise it actually connected to Sprint and I had LTE. So, I found out my iPhone is unlocked (w00t).
I tried to make a call, and I heard a blip (like a fraction of a fraction of a second of a voice), a few seconds of silence, and then the generic cannot complete this call (Probably because the device isn't provisioned for use on the Sprint Network).
I restarted the phone, and when I restarted it - it connected to T-Mobile.
So I tried to make a call, and it worked - it went through
So, I dug around in the settings on my iPhone, and a menu called "Carrier" showed up on the main screen, and when I opened it it said "Automatically Manage Networks" or something to that effect.
I turned that option off, and it scanned for about a minute and came back with a list of Mobile Networks:
T-Mobile
Sprint
Verizon
AT&T
Metro PCS
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This quote is exactly what I just said. Did you read the post?
"At the end of the Day - T-Mobile is the ONLY one that connected and still connected"
wifiguru said:
There's no hypothesis here, it is proven fact.
Sprint has a whitelist of IMEIs/ESN.
Put a Fi sim in a non-Fi phone, and it will not connect to Sprint -- no matter what you try to do.
Put a Fi sim in an unlocked Sprint device, and I bet it will work.
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This quote is exactly what I just said. Did you read the post?
"At the end of the Day - T-Mobile is the ONLY one that connected and still connected"
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Are we talking about the same thing here the author said "My theory with why Sprint connected for 1 time (and why T-Mobile connected and disconnected)) ..he did say "My Theory" and that was (iPhone 6 (Verizon) and also said
" T-Mobile connected and disconnected". Now I understand you are seeing this but he does plainly say " T-Mobile connected and disconnected" but I can tell you my phone is 1. Still connected and I have made over 10 calls and it has stayed connected all day so this would have to alter the authors "Theory" as he himself stated the term.
When the dust settles and the smoke clears and at the end of the day the author of your facts.. used the terminology "Theory"..hence me using the term "Hypothesis" now I realize you may not like that but that is the way it is until actual further testing is done and as of this point my phone has not been disconnected from the FI network which contradicts what the authors "Theory" stated.
(wifiguru) I am not here to have a urination match with you because I am here stating the the experience I have had at a personal real level and what I have stated is 100% factual and not simply what another author has stated as theory. I want to further explore what this could mean for this Galaxy Note 5 device the bands it internally carries and what possible benefits can come from that endeavor.
NotATreoFan said:
Another issue with Sprint devices is that they still do not rely solely on the SIM for programming. When Verizon made the switch to LTE, all programming follows their SIM as you change phones. But with Sprint, pulling a SIM leaves you with a working device, just no LTE. So that is likely why it won't automatically jump to their network.
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From what another post stated as theory his phone connected and then failed but I am still 100% active on the T-Mo Network with full blown LTE 5 bars so I need to try and test this out in some for or fashion.
Day 2 No Change. I drove all over Los Angeles to Pacific Palisades and still have excellent 4g LTE! I have yet to drop connection!
U still suck.
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Tony.
wiseguyy said:
Day 2 No Change. I drove all over Los Angeles to Pacific Palisades and still have excellent 4g LTE! I have yet to drop connection!
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Hmmm i'm also in Los Angeles and tried putting my Project Fi sim in an unlocked T-mobile Galaxy Note 5 and it does NOT work for me. Tried messing with the apns but no go on my end
mrpunk2u said:
Hmmm i'm also in Los Angeles and tried putting my Project Fi sim in an unlocked T-mobile Galaxy Note 5 and it does NOT work for me. Tried messing with the apns but no go on my end
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I have been using my Google Fi SIM in unlocked 920T for months in Miami. Been traveling across country and just started monitoring what networks I'm using. Download app called Fi Info and you can monitor via widget the network and also force it to use Sprint. Haven't tried US cellular yet. I'm in Ohio now and it's working fine. Will see how it works when I land in Seattle.
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TeamHackura said:
I have been using my Google Fi SIM in unlocked 920T for months in Miami. Been traveling across country and just started monitoring what networks I'm using. Download app called Fi Info and you can monitor via widget the network and also force it to use Sprint. Haven't tried US cellular yet. I'm in Ohio now and it's working fine. Will see how it works when I land in Seattle.
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Update: made it here and only had service where T-Mobile had service. No switching networks. Here's hoping the new nexus phones have a smaller footprint.
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So I know people buying the device with At&t and T-Mobile in mind, however looking at specs for the Mate 8 virtually every sub model has Verizon LTE bands, ones necessary to work on the network. However, it is soley LTE compatible. So, with that being said, will this work on a pure Verizon LTE only basis? (similar to the HTC A9) Has anyone tried this just yet? I happen to be in an area where Verizon has LTE virtually everywhere I go.
Depends, do you know if Verizon rolled out VoLTE in your area?
VoLTE is in my area and the mate 8 doesn't work. Doesn't even read the SIM card? Very weird. I ordered a new SIM. Should be here today. Hopefully that will help.
I actually have a CDMA / LTE Mate 8. Not sure if it will work on Verizon. It sees Verizon's CDMA network but not Sprint, wonder if a sim card would work though.
Blue Viuda said:
I actually have a CDMA / LTE Mate 8. Not sure if it will work on Verizon. It sees Verizon's CDMA network but not Sprint, wonder if a sim card would work though.
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Didn't know you could buy a CDMA Mate 8? Interested as I wanted this device but I'm on Verizon.
bill3508 said:
Didn't know you could buy a CDMA Mate 8? Interested as I wanted this device but I'm on Verizon.
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It's the China Telecom model
http://prepaid-data-sim-card.wikia.com/wiki/China
According to this China Telecom's network is really similar to Verizon. Which is probably why my phone sees Verizon cell towers but my ATT sim won't work in the phone even with it unlocked because it's stuck on CDMA / LTE. I'm not even sure if it's a software issue because even the debranded roms doesn't work. Pretty annoyed since I ordered my phone and wanted it working on ATT. It seems that the gray model of the phone is sold out everywhere expect this CDMA / LTE model. Wish I just ordered the silver model, I confirmed with the seller that the silver model is in stock and supports ATT.
I'm tempting to ask a friend with Verizon to let me test their sim card. Just for fun before I try and return this thing lol.
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It's the CL00 model but in grey.
https://translate.google.com/transl...r.huawei.com/cn/mobile-phones/mate8/conf.html
It looks like the AL10 has a CDMA radio as well.
Blue Viuda said:
It's the China Telecom model
http://prepaid-data-sim-card.wikia.com/wiki/China
According to this China Telecom's network is really similar to Verizon. Which is probably why my phone sees Verizon cell towers but my ATT sim won't work in the phone even with it unlocked because it's stuck on CDMA / LTE. I'm not even sure if it's a software issue because even the debranded roms doesn't work. Pretty annoyed since I ordered my phone and wanted it working on ATT. It seems that the gray model of the phone is sold out everywhere expect this CDMA / LTE model. Wish I just ordered the silver model, I confirmed with the seller that the silver model is in stock and supports ATT.
I'm tempting to ask a friend with Verizon to let me test their sim card. Just for fun before I try and return this thing lol.
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It's the CL00 model but in grey not gold.
https://translate.google.com/transl...r.huawei.com/cn/mobile-phones/mate8/conf.html
It looks like the AL10 has a CDMA radio as well.
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Thanks, does it take a nano sim? Also I think it needs to have band 13 for the lte to work properly on Verizon.
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Thanks, does it take a nano sim? Also I think it needs to have band 13 for the lte to work properly on Verizon.
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Yeah it takes nano sim and true I don't think Band 13 would even work if the phone had it because the IMEI has to be whitelisted or something for Band 13.
From my I understanding the only way you'd get a Mate 8 working on Verizon would be to activate a Nano Sim in another 4G LTE phone then put it into the Mate 8.
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Yeah it takes nano sim and true I don't think Band 13 would even work if the phone had it because the IMEI has to be whitelisted or something for Band 13.
From my I understanding the only way you'd get a Mate 8 working on Verizon would be to activate a Nano Sim in another 4G LTE phone then put it into the Mate 8.
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I've got a 6p on verizon that's why I wondered.
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With the International Rom I got my CL00 Mate 8 this far.. if I had a Verizon sim I'd test it, this is with my ATT sim in, it refuses to do GSM / LTE only CDMA / LTE.
But it sees the towers no problem, wonder if it would work though.
Blue Viuda said:
With the International Rom I got my CL00 Mate 8 this far.. if I had a Verizon sim I'd test it, this is with my ATT sim in, it refuses to do GSM / LTE only CDMA / LTE.
But it sees the towers no problem, wonder if it would work though.
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No way for you to test it? I'd really like to know.
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No way for you to test it? I'd really like to know.
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Hey @Blue Viuda it would be superb if you would test your theory out for me, since I'm stuck on Verizon and really enjoy the Mate 8. You would be doing a service to the world good sir, please and thank you
Technically it works on Verizon, but they will not let you use it on their network. You would have to call Verizon and give them the ESN number of the phone for them to provision it but they will tell you no, you can't activate it with them. This is one of the reasons I dumped their a**es a few years ago. I hate everything about Verizon.
1+ dumped Verizon for restrictions. Tho they've got the best network
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ajsmsg78 said:
Technically it works on Verizon, but they will not let you use it on their network. You would have to call Verizon and give them the ESN number of the phone for them to provision it but they will tell you no, you can't activate it with them. This is one of the reasons I dumped their a**es a few years ago. I hate everything about Verizon.
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Me and @Abumarf were actually testing this earlier this week. You'd get a 4G signal but calls will not work nor will data. Sometimes after a minute or two it just says no service and never reconnects. But if you're saying it needs to be provisioned do you think CDMA Workshop could come in handy? I have provisioned many Sprint phones over to Metro and Cricket so I know what I'm doing.
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Me and @Abumarf were actually testing this earlier this week. You'd get a 4G signal but calls will not work nor will data. Sometimes after a minute or two it just says no service and never reconnects. But if you're saying it needs to be provisioned do you think CDMA Workshop could come in handy? I have provisioned many Sprint phones over to Metro and Cricket so I know what I'm doing.
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You can give it a shot but they actually would need to enter your ESN into their system.
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You can give it a shot but they actually would need to enter your ESN into their system.
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Eh not worth the hassle. They'll just give me the runaround anyways.
Abumarf said:
Hey @Blue Viuda it would be superb if you would test your theory out for me, since I'm stuck on Verizon and really enjoy the Mate 8. You would be doing a service to the world good sir, please and thank you
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I was never able to get my hands on Verizon sim card before returning the Mate 8 back to the supplier
Verizon is not like this as much anymore
ajsmsg78 said:
Technically it works on Verizon, but they will not let you use it on their network. You would have to call Verizon and give them the ESN number of the phone for them to provision it but they will tell you no, you can't activate it with them. This is one of the reasons I dumped their a**es a few years ago. I hate everything about Verizon.
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Verizon is coming around on unlocked phones. I brought my Nexus 6p to them a couple of weeks ago and they added the IMEI to their whitelist and gave me a new sim and it works perfectly, even though they don't sell a 6p. The Verizon guy that did it didn't want to give the phone back because he liked it so much.
Where do you guys go to see what band your phone is using? Is there an app or is it in a menu?
Blue Viuda said:
I was never able to get my hands on Verizon sim card before returning the Mate 8 back to the supplier
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:'(
You mind telling me how you got into that menu? I tried *#*#4636#*#* but no good.
So I finally ran Speed Test at several locations on mobile and am only getting 2-3 mb download and 1-2 upload. I have never seen a 4G or LTE symbol next to the signal bars either, it's typically either H or H+. I am on the international model MHA-L29 in the USA, and I know that the locations I've tested my phone at have LTE for AT&T. I activated the phone 2-3 days ago. Is there something I need to do in my settings? Is there anything to check?
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Sure you have to put the correct apn.
@gm007 My options under APNs are "ATT Nextgenphone" (currently selected), or "ATT Phone". Should I try switching to "ATT Phone" and rebooting?
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@gm007 My options under APNs are "ATT Nextgenphone" (currently selected), or "ATT Phone". Should I try switching to "ATT Phone" and rebooting?
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Yes try,sorry im not in usa and don't know carrier settings. Maybe you can call ur operator to get the correct settings.
And look in the mobile network settings that you enabled 4g(lte),try the auto mode
gm007 said:
Yes try,sorry im not in usa and don't know carrier settings. Maybe you can call ur operator to get the correct settings.
And look in the mobile network settings that you enabled 4g,try the auto mode
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Okay thanks. And yes, 4G is enabled in the settings.
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Okay thanks. And yes, 4G is enabled in the settings.
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Let us know when you fix it ,good luck.
So my forum searching has led me to this path: Buy a cheap 4G AT&T GoPhone ($30), and call AT&T to update my IMEI with the IMEI of the new phone and tell them to activate LTE. Supposedly that worked on AT&T when the original OnePlus came out in the US and people were having the same issue I am having.
Just another update in case anyone is following:
I was able to get though the idiot AT&T prepaid rep and to a tech support guy last night. He said he is going to have them manually enter my IMEI into "the database" and see if that helps get me LTE. My phone is showing as "unknown device" to them right now, so he said check back in a week-ish and see if it's changed from "unknown" to "Huawei Mate 9", which will indicate that my IMEI is in the database. If so, then I check my speeds again. The tech support guy also confirmed that the idea of buying a $30 prepaid AT&T LTE phone and having them update the IMEI with the one from that phone would do the same thing. Anyway, now we wait a week....
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Just another update in case anyone is following:
I was able to get though the idiot AT&T prepaid rep and to a tech support guy last night. He said he is going to have them manually enter my IMEI into "the database" and see if that helps get me LTE. My phone is showing as "unknown device" to them right now, so he said check back in a week-ish and see if it's changed from "unknown" to "Huawei Mate 9", which will indicate that my IMEI is in the database. If so, then I check my speeds again. The tech support guy also confirmed that the idea of buying a $30 prepaid AT&T LTE phone and having them update the IMEI with the one from that phone would do the same thing. Anyway, now we wait a week....
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Jesus, you guys have it bad with your carriers in the US. Phone not working on LTE out of the box is insane.
Trixanity said:
Jesus, you guys have it bad with your carriers in the US. Phone not working on LTE out of the box is insane.
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It's just because it's an international phone and not officially available on a US carrier (yet). Still sucks though. Supposedly if I switched to T-Mobile it would get LTE out-of-the-box, which I may do if this doesn't work. Lucky I'm on prepaid so switching shouldn't be an issue if I need to.
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It's just because it's an international phone and not officially available on a US carrier (yet). Still sucks though. Supposedly if I switched to T-Mobile it would get LTE out-of-the-box, which I may do if this doesn't work. Lucky I'm on prepaid so switching shouldn't be an issue if I need to.
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I'd pretty much guarantee that I'd have LTE on my service provider as long as the correct bands are supported. So it seems like AT&T needs to vet every device for some reason.
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I'd pretty much guarantee that I'd have LTE on my service provider as long as the correct bands are supported. So it seems like AT&T needs to vet every device for some reason.
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Yeah, they (AT&T) do have a "database" for devices, and some international devices are "unknown" unless they're specifically entered. And not just the general device, Huawei Mate 9, I'm talking about specific IMEIs.
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Yeah, they (AT&T) do have a "database" for devices, and some international devices are "unknown" unless they're specifically entered. And not just the general device, Huawei Mate 9, I'm talking about specific IMEIs.
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Yup, that sounds pretty bad to me. You're paying them for service. They shouldn't care that it's an AT&T or unlocked device. They get paid either way although it kinda sounds like they want to push you toward buying devices through AT&T by making you jump through hoops to discourage you.
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Yup, that sounds pretty bad to me. You're paying them for service. They shouldn't care that it's an AT&T or unlocked device. They get paid either way although it kinda sounds like they want to push you toward buying devices through AT&T by making you jump through hoops to discourage you.
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I guarantee you that every provider in the US wants you to buy phones through them. It is still capitalism over here There is definitely more bullsh*t to deal with if you bring your own device and/or do prepaid, including crappier customer service, but the trade-off is that it's cheaper and you can switch providers anytime.
Odd, I have a L29 on ATT and LTE works just fine. Put my SIM in and no problems whatsoever.
Funk2641 said:
Odd, I have a L29 on ATT and LTE works just fine. Put my SIM in and no problems whatsoever.
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Weird. How do you know? Do you see an "LTE" symbol in the bar, or "4G"? When you run Speed Test, what are you're DL and UL speeds? Where in the US are you located? Last question (for now), were you already on AT&T with an LTE-equipped phone prior to the Mate 9, and if so, did you just pop in the SIM (did you verbally give AT&T the IMEI of your Mate 9)?
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This is on Tmobile.
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Hey @DKM119, were you already on T-Mo with a LTE-equipped phone prior to switching to the Mate 9? If so, did you give them the IMEI of your Mate 9, or did you just pop the SIM out of the old phone and into the Mate 9? Just trying to prepare in case I do switch to T-Mo.
International unlocked phones refer to LTE as 4G therefore they show 4G icon. when you see 4G on an international phone it means you have lte. quick clarification
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Weird. How do you know? Do you see an "LTE" symbol in the bar, or "4G"? When you run Speed Test, what are you're DL and UL speeds? Where in the US are you located? Last question (for now), were you already on AT&T with an LTE-equipped phone prior to the Mate 9, and if so, did you just pop in the SIM (did you verbally give AT&T the IMEI of your Mate 9)?
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It says 4G in the corner
Haven't used speedtest yet - but using LTE Discovery, I'm on Band 5 in Atlanta
I've been using a SIM from an ATT-LTE phone - but I haven't bought a branded phone in years. I just popped the sim in and it configured itself. No APN input needed
Crowd helping with carrier VPN, Cellular settings, and Network provisioning.
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Looks like AT&T sim from my Nexus 5X might get me on WiFi calling. Can anyone confirm?
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My setup looks the same (sim previously in a pixel) but I think it's lying to us. My phone still drops to 3G during calls.
I wonder if the IMEI on your AT&T account was changed to a device that supports wifi calling/advanced LTE if they would both work?
The SIM in Essential is the LG Nexus 5X IEMI for sure
I'm showing the same with a sim from an S7 Edge. However, WiFi calling doesn't seem to be working. On my S7 I was able to make WiFi calls with my cellular antenna turned off, I can't do the same with my PH-1.
On Sprint, I needed to get a new SIM as my Nexus 6P SIM didn't work, nor did my U11 but that might be due to other reasons. (It sorta worked, but didn't like it).
Went to a store that had them in stock, threw it in, and Boom! LTE+ and crystal clear phone calls. (The earpiece really is good and loud, almost too loud).
I couldn't care less for WiFi Calling since my WiFi is much worse than Sprint LTE... Surprise surprise.
No service on voice on sprint network
My phone connected fine for four days to voice and data now all I have is data no voice it says voice out of service I can't make or receive calls at all only data I when to the Sprint store today and was there for 2hrs and still no voice only data this phone is 700 bucks and all I have is data smh essential support is no help I been begging for a full refund for 6 days now
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On Sprint, I needed to get a new SIM as my Nexus 6P SIM didn't work, nor did my U11 but that might be due to other reasons. (It sorta worked, but didn't like it).
Went to a store that had them in stock, threw it in, and Boom! LTE+ and crystal clear phone calls. (The earpiece really is good and loud, almost too loud).
I couldn't care less for WiFi Calling since my WiFi is much worse than Sprint LTE... Surprise surprise.
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My HTC 10 sim wouldn't work either. Sprint locks certain Sims to certain phone groups. Anyone with an unlocked ph1 on Sprint will most likely have to go get a new Sim and will most likely have to factory reset phone after activation to get it all working.
tmac7728 said:
My phone connected fine for four days to voice and data now all I have is data no voice it says voice out of service I can't make or receive calls at all only data I when to the Sprint store today and was there for 2hrs and still no voice only data this phone is 700 bucks and all I have is data smh essential support is no help I been begging for a full refund for 6 days now
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Call local sprint stores or sprint support themselves and get a new Sim. It's not the phone's fault as mine did this when I used the sim from my U11 which did exactly the same thing you're describing.
They sent me a brand new SIM card for the phone also I was at the sprint tech store where they tried another sim also so yes it is the phone
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They sent me a brand new SIM card for the phone also I was at the sprint tech store where they tried another sim also so yes it is the phone
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Did you try a factory reset after the new SIM?
Took a shot at having ATT try provisioning with Essential IMEI instead of LG Nexus 5X. Network not recognizing PH-1 IMEI. It only provisions UMTS, no LTE. No data network. On chat support for hours.
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As reported on forums, AT&T does not yet recognize this phone's IMEI, and when force registering to network, and reading the serial number, it forces UMTS with no data service. Had to pull SIM back in Nexus 5X to reregister and provision LTE with Nexus IMEI. Returned SIM to PH-1 and now have my data back, as well the s#!+ cell signal I had since day 1.
Why do people even bother provisioning with AT&T. Everytime I interact with them, they have managed to make my problem worse.
If you have a properly provisioned LTE sim from a prior phone, just pop it into the essential and do not call ATT.
APN Business.....stuck...return label in hand.
Got my PH1 yesterday and really do like it. Really struggling with APN settings. I have Cellcom (Wisconsin based using Verizon Network), I put in my sim and change network type to global(I’ve tried most of the other options) I can go into Edit Access Point and modify the majority of the info except APN Type...needing to add mms to the “default,dun,supl,mms” or course that is grayed out. Which results in texts going thru but mms photos and group messages sit and spin until erroring out. Any ideas?
No option to add a new apn. Can only reset to default.
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No option to add a new apn. Can only reset to default.
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There a little plus button on the top of the APN screen. You can definitely add one.
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There a little plus button on the top of the APN screen. You can definitely add one.
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No, you definitely can't. Not if your phone isn't working completely on Verizon like mine also. No plus sign, and about half the APN settings are not changeable. I was able to change one setting and got mms working.
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No, you definitely can't. Not if your phone isn't working completely on Verizon like mine also. No plus sign, and about half the APN settings are not changeable. I was able to change one setting and got mms working.
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I know this is an old post but if you have a Verizon sim, even if not active, you should be able to add a new apn. Then after saving pop your cellcom sim in.
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Using 8.1 Official and on Verizon. I notice APN bearer as a double comma after HSPAR. I have seen some parsing software consider a double comma as an end of string null. I wonder if the last two entries are being seen by the phone? HSDPA and HSUPA
I know this might be a tricky question and I'm probably out of luck here, but I figured to still give it a try.
I currently have the T-Mobile's gm1915 op7 pro using att's network, and I was informed that this particular model will become obsolete once att phrase out its 3G service. Upon checking att's compatibility whitelist I realized that the only op7 pro model that att supports is the global/US unlocked gm1917 variant.
So my question is, is there any methods such as software spoofing that I could trick att's network into thinking that I have the gm1917 model?
The area I live in doesn't have T-mobile cellular coverage so changing carriers would be a pain , op7 pro has been a great phone and I would hate to give it up due to silly reasons like this.
Durian_Pie said:
I know this might be a tricky question and I'm probably out of luck here, but I figured to still give it a try.
I currently have the T-Mobile's gm1915 op7 pro using att's network, and I was informed that this particular model will become obsolete once att phrase out its 3G service. Upon checking att's compatibility whitelist I realized that the only op7 pro model that att supports is the global/US unlocked gm1917 variant.
So my question is, is there any methods such as software spoofing that I could trick att's network into thinking that I have the gm1917 model?
The area I live in doesn't have T-mobile cellular coverage so changing carriers would be a pain , op7 pro has been a great phone and I would hate to give it up due to silly reasons like this.
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I have the same model of phone and the exact same question. Although to add more info, it's not just that they are dropping 3g. They are also adding in "eSim" cards and requiring those. I suspect part of the reason the unlocked version of one 1+7p is allowed and the t-mobile one isn't has to do with eSim compatibility. I am however not sure and trying to navigate this bull**** REALLY quick. The sim card that came with the "free" phone att sent without asking provides full signal strength but I can't make any calls and I'm worried it maybe an issue that transcends the signal strength.
I don't get it, the gm1915 supports 4G bands right?
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I don't get it, the gm1915 supports 4G bands right?
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Afaik it's not just an issue of 4g bands. eSIm cards are (to my knowledge) different technology than regular sim cards. From what I'm reading it's not enough to know the phone is suppose to look for an at&t signal, but that there is a hardware component that allows eSims to program things differently.
I'm *REALLY* hoping someone will tell me I am wrong, but if I am correct this would also be why it wouldn't be enough to spoof info.
Ok I see. You need to reprogram the eSim.
If the phone's unlocked it should be doable.
GM1917 vs. GM1915 on AT&T
I'm leaning heavily towards getting a 7 Pro for my next phone. I'm on AT&T because it's the only game in town where I live. If I can get the GM1915 variant cheaper than the GM1917, can I convert it to essentially be a 1917 afterwards...
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Have you tried AT&T advanced tech support?
Keep trying, some techs know a lot more than others.
They already disabled my sim, so I called and complained and they turned it back on. The phone is fully capable, if it wasn't there would be alot of others that would have to be replaced. They can't afford to just shut down that many phones and loose customers.
On this thread it's stated it won't work because of VoLte.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ATT/comments/oteawg
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I have the same model of phone and the exact same question. Although to add more info, it's not just that they are dropping 3g. They are also adding in "eSim" cards and requiring those. I suspect part of the reason the unlocked version of one 1+7p is allowed and the t-mobile one isn't has to do with eSim compatibility. I am however not sure and trying to navigate this bull**** REALLY quick. The sim card that came with the "free" phone att sent without asking provides full signal strength but I can't make any calls and I'm worried it maybe an issue that transcends the signal strength.
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Do you have a source that I can look into? I believe Iphone 6 isn't esim enabled and yet still belongs in the att's whitelist.
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Do you have a source that I can look into? I believe Iphone 6 isn't esim enabled and yet still belongs in the att's whitelist.
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I am currently using WiFi while my tires get changed after factory resetting my phone and won't be near my laptop for some time. Sorry.
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On this thread it's stated it won't work because of VoLte.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ATT/comments/oteawg
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T-mobile listed the gm1915 model on the website as VoLTE enabled, and op7 pro comes with all the bands att could possibly use. But yes I believe this is part of the problem, currently VoLTE is disabled for my device.
I have a feeling that att just didn't brother to make niche devices such as T-mobile op7 pro to be compatible with its own VoLTE network.
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I am currently using WiFi while my tires get changed after factory resetting my phone and won't be near my laptop for some time. Sorry.
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no worries I was just curious
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no worries I was just curious
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You might also be able to grill the guy who answered on reddit for more info.
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They already disabled my sim, so I called and complained and they turned it back on. The phone is fully capable, if it wasn't there would be alot of others that would have to be replaced. They can't afford to just shut down that many phones and loose customers.
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Yeah it just happened to me recently, I also had to call in and get my service back on. But the representative told me that they're going to completely shutdown 3g service by Feb,2022. Which then the network will solely rely on VoLTE to support voice calls.
I have no problem getting LTE ,
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I have no problem getting LTE ,
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Is it just LTE or VoLTE? In my settings I only see the 2G/3G/LTE option being default while I couldn't toggle on the VoLTE. 4g LTE only transmits data whereas VoLTE is more refined and support voice over. This will be a problem once att retire its 3g service as now the phone couldn't use VoLTE to call.
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VOLTE is provisioned
Volte is just voice service(Voice over Long-Term Evolution) it is LTE . Ur just making phone calls on LTE.
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Volte is just voice service(Voice over Long-Term Evolution) it is LTE . Ur just making phone calls on LTE.
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wow yeah how did you get volte to work? Did you enable any settings? volte is lte, but I was just making sure becuase it's not necessarily the other way around.
There are many custom roms that will enable it. I still don't understand why people are having so many issues with the gm1915. I have mine one android 11, fully rooted and have working twrp, still have safety net and widevine l1. Only issues I have had is trying to get wlan packet injection with custom Kernal on Android 11. No problem on 10.
Could be that I know how to generate the qr code to decrypt the engineer app. To activate all the bands