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When will Droid 3 come out?

When will Droid 3 come out?
any news??
and will moto unlock bootloader, if we all send email requesting to moto

1. no one knows
2. no news
3. no, moto wont unlock the bootloader just because we send email request, although i wish they would
if i were to make a guess at when they would release a droid 3, if they choose to, it would be Q3 or Q4 this year.

will we sue moto for locking the bootloader~~ just like this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=912480
that would be cool

I doubt it, as far as I know, companies are allowed to develop whatever software they want for their products, even if its meant to limit access to the device
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what do you reckon the specs would be for the droid 3 or even hopefully the milestone 3

I would think it would be standard for next year: dual core TI processor with great 3D graphics, 1gb of ram, a higher res, probably 960x640, 3.7 inch screen, and your usual cell phone specs. I also expect it to have 4g, and I hope they don't change the industrial design too much, makes it look really rugged and durable
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From what I've read Motorola are just skirting the lines of legality by locking their bootloader, but it's still technically legal. Besides, 90% of the ppl wouldn't be as pissed off at them if:
(1) They kept relatively up-to-date with the rest of their market with their Android releases.
(2) They didn't simply just abandon certain phones off the upgrade line when clearly the hardware specs point to them being able to handle the latest Android.
(3) They didn't delay their releases by weeks/months (usually the latter) just to have their engineers put their effort into putting crapware/Blur.
IMO Motorola makes some great hardware, but their software practices are draconian and primitive.

but they wont always update the phone, will they?
if they unlock the bootloader which is good for both of us

http://www.droid-life.com/2011/01/2...e-2-all-in-the-works-stock-experience-coming/

i want dual-core + front cam. + support 4G + 1080p video for DROID3

thomaslau said:
i want dual-core + front cam. + support 4G + 1080p video for DROID3
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U want quad core 1/5ghz cpu/quad core gpu combo with 720p Front facing cam, 3g/4g dual band support, 1080p video recording with dual led flash, a 4" 1366x768 OLED screen (without that crappy pentile matrix crap) 2GB of ram, and 32GB of onboard storage, and let's throw in a 1600mAh battery for good measure.
Oh and don't skimp on the 5 row keyboard and micro hdmi output, and god help them if there isn't a notification light.

Galaxy S2

Hey everyone.
I ran across this over at the GS2 forum.
This guy has one.
Check out his blog
http://domarmstrong.blogspot.com/
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Some pretty impressive numbers there, and a very complete selection of benchmarks.
Would seem like the CPU in the GS2 is at least 2x more powerful than the Hummingbird in ours. Also some impressive GPU numbers.
Thing is though... the original Galaxy S was like 6-8 months ahead of the curve in pretty much every facet of the device. Even now, no other device on the market can compare with the Super AMOLED screen. The Galaxy S2 however has some impressive specs, and a very cool looking (and very thin) package, but it doesn't feel like it's going to be the "step above the rest" that the original was.
Guess we'll see when it's actually released!

Not that it matters, but that's got to be some of the highest quadrants ever recorded.

That looks very promising. I could upgrade my cappy to that for sure. To date i have not seen anything worth upgrading to...

I wish it was a 4" screen. Wouldn't want a 4.3" one with that resolution (personally). Because I'm on a two year contract I'm hoping the Galaxy S3 is leaps and bounds above the S in display and processor technology... and comes in a 4" variant for battery savings.
It still looks cool though

SkitchBeatz said:
I wish it was a 4" screen. Wouldn't want a 4.3" one with that resolution (personally). Because I'm on a two year contract I'm hoping the Galaxy S3 is leaps and bounds above the S in display and processor technology... and comes in a 4" variant for battery savings.
It still looks cool though
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I'm really on the fence about it due to the screen size (for battery life, size of the handset) and the resolution. I may be able to live with the lack of resolution, but I'd have to see battery life numbers before I even think about swapping out my captivate.

Just got mine today very impressive and fast. Very responsive and thin.
Camera is brilliant and video recording wow best out there.

I was really looking forward to the galaxy s 2 but I am thinking its gonna be awhile before it is released. I find it hard to believe with the infuse on the way (but to the best of my knowledge also with out a release date) that samsung would cut their own throat by following the infuse with the galaxy s 2. I have been eligible for an update for awhile so I am thinking there is going to be allot of competition when it finally arrives. IMO samsung has really dropped the ball by not releasing here sooner, especially if it has to face the iphone 5. At this point it seems like the sgs 2 will be doa as the next killer phone if released in the fall.

that score in antutu is quite impressive! holy crap that's fast tegra 2's need to run at 1500 mhz to beat that!. the 3d benchmarks are likely heavily held back by a cap on the fps just like the captivate is already. i have gotten 491 points for 3d alone in antutu with a certain kernel and rom combo and that wasnt even with the gpu overclocked or fps cap removed like some of the vibrant kernels and old captivate 2.1 kernels. could do.
i want to see that thing run without any fps caps and some kernel tweaks! no overclocking.

I might upgrade next year. I think it's a good to give 6 months to a year before getting a top of the line handset.
That's enough for bugs to be noticed (and hopefully fixed), for community development to take off and for the apps to catch up with the new phone's technology. Correct me if I'm wrong, but right now the only apps that can take full advantage of the Sgs2 processors are benchmarks.
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For those interested, Engadget UK just posted a review of the Galaxy S 2:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/28/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-review/

SO gps works...
BRB preordering

Glad they put the USB at the bottom

yeah but is it using the same type of internal memory? that is the biggest bottleneck of any device or computer is the *hard drive*
the internal memory in current phones is single channel read OR write crap.
and please dont say ddr2 memory.... thats different and only helps a little in comparison to the issue with the storage memory

I think I'll just wait for what samsung promise to have a 2ghz dualcore nxtyr or later, I'm still in my 2yr contact though
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i like the coment at the end "best smart phone period!" says it all!
that said i am a little disapointed with the 3d performance of the dual core phones. though the tegra is a powerful application processor and the orion is fast beyond description the open gl performance isnt much beyond what the galaxys already does. was samsung just that far ahead in that area or is there power to be unlocked in these chipsets?

bri315317 said:
That looks very promising. I could upgrade my cappy to that for sure. To date i have not seen anything worth upgrading to...
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Agree
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Why on earth would u want to upgrade to Galasy S2?
They have so much potential and best tech in screens, internal storage, cameras, processors, and good design builds in past YET lately they rush everything (unfinished drivers, bad gps, same 16GB internal but they could have 64 and average camera and cheap plastic to save on costs) so that they can copy iphone because they want some of their success. i personally hate iphone, but every other company copying them just drives apple to think they r the best.. and personally they did make the right choice on A5 to use powerVR543 because even dual VR 543 is faster than quad-core mali400, (big mistake for Samsung as mali400 alone is almost twice weaker than PowerVR 540 used in previous galaxy, which confirms in benchmarks) and NO 3D in galaxy S2 which puts LG optimus 3d and HTC evo 3D in front. and 3D is the future with more and more 3d movies out. and same wvga res that has been since winmo 6.0. sure u don't need the very highest res in a phone, but when u connect it to HDTV via hdmi u will have to rethink that, but then again does galaxy s2 even have HDMI?? On this site: http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxys2/html/specification.htmldoesn't doesn't list hdmi or anything...
Here where things become worse building a phone with large surface area due to 4.27inch screen and full plastic yet copy iphone in trying to make as slim as possible makes it extremely breakable as the phone will slowly start bending over months as u keep it in ur pocket tightly while playing sports etc. This used to happen with motorola razer
And to top this off Android 2.3 DOES NOT fully support multiple cores, well it supports but doesn't take advantage till 3.0 honeycomb (or 3.1 for phones), so if samsung doesn't give u an update AGAIN, or rushes it out full of bugs like they did for galaxy s, ur phone will never see it's potential
And i also got a bit of info from a tweeter a few month back where it was said that samsung is working on quad-core processor for next year and chances are the next one will also be 3D. This goes well in line with guad-core Tegra 3 to be out this fall, and sony NGP already running quad-core.
Point is unlike galaxy S which had at least the best GPU on the market, Galaxy S2 doesn't have anything that stands out. Sure u have super amoled plus, but others will have higher res, and dual-core is MAINSTREAM now. And it will only be a matter of month before this phone be obliterated by it's succesor.
Also from the lawsuit that apple has recently put on samsung might force them to restart making innovative designs like they did prior "galaxy"

You're wrong in several different ways.
1- There's very little point in putting 64gb of storage on a phone. 16/32 internal + 16/32 sd card is way more than enough for me and for 99.9% of users;
2- Reviews of the sgs2 camera place it as one of the best in the market, not sure I'd call it average;
3- Apple's lawsuit is bs and I honestly doubt it will affect anything on the long run. Android and touch wiz are quite different from Ios in important ways;
4- Why do you need 3d on a phone? Where are the apps for it? Why would you watch a 3d movie on a 4.3 inch screen? It'd probably kill the battery before it was over. Maybe, it'll eventually offer some real world advantage, but right now it's just a gimmick;
5- The Sgs2 supports hdmi out via micro usb through mhl technology. Google it;
6- It's wrong to question the build quality and durability without having ever seen the phone upclose. So far, I've seen nothing but praise on reviews and previews. Plastic not only keeps costs down, it also lowers the weight. And since when is making a phone slim apple's idea?;
7- I don't have the expertise to comment on the cpu and gpu, but the benchmarks seemed impressive as hell to me;
8- Screen resolution could be higher, but super amoled technology is so far ahead of the curve that I bet it will more than make up for it.
In short, why upgrade to sgs 2? Best cpu on the market (according to engadget review), best screen on the market, one of the best cameras on the market, bt 3.0+hs, microusb hdmi out, usb on the go (according to gsm arena) and the fact that the galaxy s is already a great phone.
Obviously, there'll be a better phone, eventually, that's the way it is in the tech world, but right now it seems to be a fantastic device, as engadget review shows.
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I dont care the phone is sick and I can't wait to get one. I love my sammy captivate and knowing that's the same thing all jacked up is great. 3d is dumb especially on a phone. Plenty of storage. It will be great to finally have a flash. Super amoled is amazing so super plus is better...what more could you want. We don't need to dwell on tons of worthless info. The phone is gonna be sick and the best anybodies had. Everybody wants it and so do I.
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[Q] Moto Photon vs. Samsung Within (GSII)

Since I am getting ready to upgrade and Sprint looks to be getting both the Motorola Photon and the Samsung Within (GS2) I'm still having a hard time deciding, especially since neither phone is out yet.
However, I ask this......is there anything the SGS2 doesn't do well? I have heard nothing but great things about this phone and still hear it being called "the best Android phone to date". Looks as though the Sprint version might be slightly larger but otherwise assuming similar specs (except for maybe the CPU).
One thing to note.....not too interested in the differences between MotoBlur and Touchwiz. Will get used to them how they are or just install a new launcher and be done with it.

Anyone???
**BUMP**

CCallahan said:
Since I am getting ready to upgrade and Sprint looks to be getting both the Motorola Photon and the Samsung Within (GS2) I'm still having a hard time deciding, especially since neither phone is out yet.
However, I ask this......is there anything the SGS2 doesn't do well? I have heard nothing but great things about this phone and still hear it being called "the best Android phone to date". Looks as though the Sprint version might be slightly larger but otherwise assuming similar specs (except for maybe the CPU).
One thing to note.....not too interested in the differences between MotoBlur and Touchwiz. Will get used to them how they are or just install a new launcher and be done with it.
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Only thing bad with the SII is battery life (but of course it varies according to usage).

I've heard only fantastic things about the Samsung Galaxy S II. Reviews everywhere consider this one of the best phones on the market (if not *the* best).
Maybe when both come out it's worth checking them out at the store (and checking the reviews on the Motorola handset).
I've heard that the US version of the SGSII might include a bumped up processor so it can compete with the new Iphone (I think I remember 1.4 gHz being tossed around).

theo80 said:
Only thing bad with the SII is battery life (but of course it varies according to usage).
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This will be a business phone so it gets talked on all day long normally with bluetooth active and some GPS.
First I have heard of the SGS2 having bad battery life. If this is true then it is not the phone for me.
Anyone else confirm this?

CCallahan said:
This will be a business phone so it gets talked on all day long normally with bluetooth active and some GPS.
First I have heard of the SGS2 having bad battery life. If this is true then it is not the phone for me.
Anyone else confirm this?
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You could browse the dedicated GSII subforum to confirm (there is a "bug" in the stock GSII, as far as I understand), but any phone will only last you a day at most if used heavily for calls.

I may pull the trigger on photon bc its world phone. I'm traveling to the middle east next week, so I will bring it with me (will have my bb as a back up)

I think it comes down to what you want.
There are really 3 contenders
Evo3D
- 1.2Ghz Dual Qual / 1G Ram
- 3D camera (gimmicky, I know but still)
- 4GB storage
- Locked bootloader (for now)
- qHD 960x540
Photon
- 1.0Ghz Dual Tegra / 1G Ram
- Webtop
- 16GB storage
- Locked bootloader (for now)
- qHD 960x540
Within
- 1.2 Exynos / 1G Ram
- 16GB storage (or 32G?)
- Not sure about bootloader
- only 800x400 but it is samsung so still amazing
So of the three, I ordered the photon today (Sprint Gold), mainly because I think the extra 12G onboard and the WebTop are more useful than the 3D camera, and the Tegra chipset has optimized games. However, the lower base clock speed may lose on benchmarks in the OC race... tho I found my single core 1G Evo to be plenty fast for todays needs when OC'd to 1.197 so dual core at 1.5 for the tegra should be plenty fast.
The only thing holding me back from the Within was late release date and the 800x400 screen.
Speaking of which, lets get going on the Moto Photon Forum! I'll have my phone in a day or two and be ready to start hackin it up!

Galaxy Tab Plus vs Nexus 7

I know there are many things about the Tab Plus that make it a superior piece of hardware, but the Nexus 7 is one of the few 7" devices that even comes close to it in specs and performance.
The one great thing is that it will get the latest OS updates and that will make it a more fun device to use. It hasn't even shipped yet, but has its own forum and someone has already figured out how to root the device . . . The most frustrating thing about Samsung is its silence and sluggishness regarding updating our beloved device. Not to mention the wifi driver issue.
I don't plan on getting rid of my Tab Plus but I have a Nexus 7 on pre order and can't wait to try some Jelly Bean.

change the title to:
microsd x JB
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Well it has the superior processor and better software support, downside would be the missing microSD slot, limited internal storage and lack of 3g. So on the one hand you are dependent on the cloud but you dont get mobile data capabilities. Sure Tegra 3 is nice but i still think the tab+ is at the very least more mobile.
Oh yeah and the n7 is supposed to have a bit of a better screen.
Since it has only wifi and limited storage it's designed to be used at home mostly which conflicts with the concept of such a small screen size.

OK, so I was really curious about this too. I made a little spreadsheet to compare the GT+wifi to the 16gb N7. It's attached. There's several small differences (dimensions, materials, asthetics, etc.) that were either a matter of taste of too insignificant to call "different." BTW- if I've missed something let me know and I'll update.
Nexus 7 (16gb)-----Galaxy Tab Plus (6210 wifi only):
Processor: Tegra 3 Quad Core 1300MHz-----1.2 GHz dual-core Exynos 4210
OS: Android 4.1 Jelly Bean*- Vanilla-----Android 3.2 Honeycomb - Touchwiz
OS Future: Early upgrades for 18 months-----ICS July/August; nothing more
Display: 1280 x 800 IPS-----1024 x 600 PLS
Magnetometer: Yes-----No
USB Digital Audio: Yes-----No
NFC: Yes-----No
USB: MicroUSB w/host-----Samsung Proprietary w/host
Back Camera (MP): No-----3.1
Front Camera (MP): 1.2-----2
Expandable Memory: No-----Yes
Wifi: B/G/N-----A/B/G/N
Wifi 5Ghz: No-----Yes
So, there you have it. If you need mobile data, don't compare, just get a GT+. Also note the difference in user base for the two tablets which means a huge difference in the amount of development.

slack04 said:
OK, so I was really curious about this too. I made a little spreadsheet to compare the GT+wifi to the 16gb N7. It's attached. There's several small differences (dimensions, materials, asthetics, etc.) that were either a matter of taste of too insignificant to call "different." BTW- if I've missed something let me know and I'll update.
Nexus 7 (16gb)-----Galaxy Tab Plus (6210 wifi only):
Processor: Tegra 3 Quad Core 1300MHz-----1.2 GHz dual-core Exynos 4210
OS: Android 4.1 Jelly Bean*- Vanilla-----Android 3.2 Honeycomb - Touchwiz
OS Future: Early upgrades for 18 months-----ICS July/August; nothing more
Display: 1280 x 800 IPS-----1024 x 600 PLS
Magnetometer: Yes-----No
USB Digital Audio: Yes-----No
NFC: Yes-----No
USB: MicroUSB w/host-----Samsung Proprietary w/host
Back Camera (MP): No-----3.1
Front Camera (MP): 1.2-----2
Expandable Memory: No-----Yes
Wifi: B/G/N-----A/B/G/N
Wifi 5Ghz: No-----Yes
So, there you have it. If you need mobile data, don't compare, just get a GT+. Also note the difference in user base for the two tablets which means a huge difference in the amount of development.
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Thanks for pulling all this together!

Honestly if the nexus 7 had a microsd card slot id probably rid my gt+ but im not sure if im willing to give up storage for a faster cpu. ... I think it kind of is a downgrade, and cloud come on why would you want your files on another device and not your own? I think its a cool device and may work for you but all n all i think the gt+ is for the win in my book
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I just sold my Gtab+ on ebay today and pre-ordered two Nexus 7.
I'm just tired of Samsung taking forever to roll out major updates, namely ICS. I've had working ICS leaks on my E4GT for several months now, which I am enjoying and all, however my P6210 has seen no such love. Its not mobile/3g so the carrier argument is null. What bothers me further is that Samsung put out the tab 2, which is extremely similar yet its got ICS.
I decided to sell it now, while i still can and forego the microSD card slot. apart from that, i am gaining a far superior tab that has much greater function (to me) than the tab plus.
Despite the Lack of external storage I do not see how a Gtab plus is in any way better than the Nexus 7. Even if it has 3G, pages are slow to load and browsers FC more often than i'd like to admit. I find myself (when using my phone) waiting and hopping onto wifi more often than waiting for 3G.
Based on Specs alone, my wants and needs would be satisfied by the Nexus 7. As great as external storage would be for movies during flights and trips, i can still make plenty of use of 16GB of on board storage for my half way around the world flights.

Small correction, the plus has a magnetometer
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killerbicycle said:
I just sold my Gtab+ on ebay today and pre-ordered two Nexus 7.
I'm just tired of Samsung taking forever to roll out major updates, namely ICS. I've had working ICS leaks on my E4GT for several months now, which I am enjoying and all, however my P6210 has seen no such love. Its not mobile/3g so the carrier argument is null. What bothers me further is that Samsung put out the tab 2, which is extremely similar yet its got ICS.
I decided to sell it now, while i still can and forego the microSD card slot. apart from that, i am gaining a far superior tab that has much greater function (to me) than the tab plus.
Despite the Lack of external storage I do not see how a Gtab plus is in any way better than the Nexus 7. Even if it has 3G, pages are slow to load and browsers FC more often than i'd like to admit. I find myself (when using my phone) waiting and hopping onto wifi more often than waiting for 3G.
Based on Specs alone, my wants and needs would be satisfied by the Nexus 7. As great as external storage would be for movies during flights and trips, i can still make plenty of use of 16GB of on board storage for my half way around the world flights.
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Just some quick thoughts on my future with my GT7+...not commenting on anyone else's decision to switch or not....
Not sure if I'll sell my GT7+ or repurpose it, but I too have ordered an N7. Lack of ICS (my 10 android tab has it so I do know what I'm missing- unfortunately I don't have time these days to root/hack as much as I'd like to get an unofficial ICS on the GT7) is a big issue for me so getting to leapfrog it for JellyB is a dream. Day to day performance compared to iOS has always been so disappointing and it looks like JB will have that smooth, buttery UX that android has been severely lacking. I can't wait! I know many will disagree with that statement, but fanboi-ism aside, you gotta admit, why does android need two or even four cores running at 1.2-1.7Ghz to run as smoothly as iOS (which only uses a dual 1Ghz cpu or slower)? I'm not a dev or coder so don't know the nuts and bolts of the OS, but as a consumer the slow downs, freezes, stutters, etc is a deal killer.
These days an iPad3 is my main tab (/ducks...lol), but I still think the GT7 size is a portable sweet spot. There are times the iPad just feel to big to bring. Plus, the horsepower of Tegra 3 with that monster GPU (12 cores!) will make the N7 a serious competitor to the iPad for games and multimedia content creation (photo and video in my case)- if we get the proper apps. Another thing the the N7 got me with is a better supported screen rez- I've had app compatibility issues possibly because 1024x768 wasn't properly supported for a honeycomb tablet.
16GB with no expansion might be tough, but support for USB drives will come soon if not available at launch. No HDMI out is also a bummer, though again, I've read MHL support could be added with a firmware update.
Lack of 3G is a non-issue. 3G sucks. Sorry, but come on, in this age of LTE, good WiFi coverage about anywhere and LTE MiFi's, I would never pay extra to have 3G in a device these days. LTE data plans are about the same cost as 3G now and coverage is only getting better (obviously, I'm only talking about the US and have no idea what the situation for LTE is in other parts of the world)
Anyway, I know I'll always have uses for both OS's- well, my work requires I know and use both, but it's gonna be great to have a device that won't sometimes make me feel like a beta tester when I use Android.

Damn, ipad was never into the discussion.
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Yuck, sold mt ipad 2 to get this one. As long as they put ****ty software on it which is only designed to restrict your freedom, im not ever gonna get anything with a bitten apple on it lol.
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Oh yeah an that with 3g is your opinion, but it highly depends on where you live. When youre on the countryside 3g is your only option, since there is bad lte coverage and wifi only at home so...
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Keeping my TabPlus, waiting for N7+.

Hey! nobody saw that the n7 has no interface for tablet? This is very important for the GT +

glaucosv said:
Hey! nobody saw that the n7 has no interface for tablet? This is very important for the GT +
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If you can't find google or the search button, how did you make it to XDA?

GTab+: MicroSD, HDMI (with dongle), rear camera + LED, haptic feedback.
N7: Better resolution, OS, CPU, easier to hold (grippy case), NFC
I'll be keeping my GTab+ P6210 for now. Besides being a bit slower and lower res, it suits my purposes fine and has all the extras. Hopefully the OS will catch up eventually (at least 4.04 with good custom ROM, don't care for TW that much). Might get an N7 later but not in a huge rush right now.

Keeping my GT+
but want to order the 32 Gig Nexus 7 (they are currently sold out)to have a cream of the crop OS to play with . The only reason I need the Xtra space is for movies so I'll just bring my GPlus when on long trips and the Nexus 7 for short ones. :good:

Well i wont leave my GT+ for sure.. I use it for cellular purpose and also browsing internet.. its my main gadget now ^^, but eyah, another 7" tab for 200 $ with 1.3 quad tegra.. jelly bean.. quite a good offer for self amusement.. will consider getting that N7 as well.. but GT+ will always be my main, for now..

Another direct comparison.
http://versusio.com/en/google-nexus-7-8gb-vs-samsung-galaxy-tab-7-0-plus-p6210-32gb

This comparision is bull****.
No DLNA on P6210?
Nexus 7 doesn't have USB mass storage out of the box.
Free navigation? You can install Google Maps on P6210 for free too.
Also this bull**** comparision doesn't mention things like rear facing camera, LED flash on P6210.

No Love for Ainol Tablets? Wwait to Buy Flame II? No Forum?

I'm in need of a 7" tablet. I own a Samsung S3 phone and I bought one of my kids a Nexus 7 a couple months ago. Nexus 7 is great but I recently discovered Ainol specs. I understand it's a China-direct deal and it is going to be way behind something like a Nexus as far as support and ease/frequency of firmware and OS updates. Seems though, sort of like Hyundai, it may have had a shaky reputation earlier but their latest devices seem to be of pretty high quality.
Mainly, I'm eyeballing the Flame 7" tablet. Much better hardware specs than the Nexus, aside from maybe a little less powerful CPU? I don't need it for gaming though. I love the fact it has both an SD card slot and a front facing 2MP camera and rear facing 5MP camera. I like to do video conferencing and you can't do that on a Nexus. Build quality looks close to Nexus and Ainol has Play Store and supports FLASH. Wow. Really hard to pass up.
My dilemma now is to wait for the Flame II with the quad-core CPU and rumored Android 4.2, or just get the current dual-core model. Seems you risk firmware bugs in a brand new device, but, sure would be nice to have 4.2 right off the bat. I'm not sure what other differences there are on the II other than the CPU? Anyone know?
The specs on the Flame 1 say ICS with JB Update. But a search for a JB update for the Flame 1 turns up nothing. Hence, the poor manufacturer and community support on these "off brands" seems to be their only downside assuming the hardware reliability on their latest models is up to par.
Seems to be an increasingly popular brand, maybe the most popular out of the 'off brands.' Yet no forums for them here despite many other tablet forums?

Dedicated Forums are created in XDA depending upon the development works the device has. If it has a high level development like ports of CyanogenMod, AOKP, custom recovery, kernels, other tweaks, mods etc. then there is a chance that it gets a dedicated forum.