Hey everyone.
I ran across this over at the GS2 forum.
This guy has one.
Check out his blog
http://domarmstrong.blogspot.com/
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Some pretty impressive numbers there, and a very complete selection of benchmarks.
Would seem like the CPU in the GS2 is at least 2x more powerful than the Hummingbird in ours. Also some impressive GPU numbers.
Thing is though... the original Galaxy S was like 6-8 months ahead of the curve in pretty much every facet of the device. Even now, no other device on the market can compare with the Super AMOLED screen. The Galaxy S2 however has some impressive specs, and a very cool looking (and very thin) package, but it doesn't feel like it's going to be the "step above the rest" that the original was.
Guess we'll see when it's actually released!
Not that it matters, but that's got to be some of the highest quadrants ever recorded.
That looks very promising. I could upgrade my cappy to that for sure. To date i have not seen anything worth upgrading to...
I wish it was a 4" screen. Wouldn't want a 4.3" one with that resolution (personally). Because I'm on a two year contract I'm hoping the Galaxy S3 is leaps and bounds above the S in display and processor technology... and comes in a 4" variant for battery savings.
It still looks cool though
SkitchBeatz said:
I wish it was a 4" screen. Wouldn't want a 4.3" one with that resolution (personally). Because I'm on a two year contract I'm hoping the Galaxy S3 is leaps and bounds above the S in display and processor technology... and comes in a 4" variant for battery savings.
It still looks cool though
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I'm really on the fence about it due to the screen size (for battery life, size of the handset) and the resolution. I may be able to live with the lack of resolution, but I'd have to see battery life numbers before I even think about swapping out my captivate.
Just got mine today very impressive and fast. Very responsive and thin.
Camera is brilliant and video recording wow best out there.
I was really looking forward to the galaxy s 2 but I am thinking its gonna be awhile before it is released. I find it hard to believe with the infuse on the way (but to the best of my knowledge also with out a release date) that samsung would cut their own throat by following the infuse with the galaxy s 2. I have been eligible for an update for awhile so I am thinking there is going to be allot of competition when it finally arrives. IMO samsung has really dropped the ball by not releasing here sooner, especially if it has to face the iphone 5. At this point it seems like the sgs 2 will be doa as the next killer phone if released in the fall.
that score in antutu is quite impressive! holy crap that's fast tegra 2's need to run at 1500 mhz to beat that!. the 3d benchmarks are likely heavily held back by a cap on the fps just like the captivate is already. i have gotten 491 points for 3d alone in antutu with a certain kernel and rom combo and that wasnt even with the gpu overclocked or fps cap removed like some of the vibrant kernels and old captivate 2.1 kernels. could do.
i want to see that thing run without any fps caps and some kernel tweaks! no overclocking.
I might upgrade next year. I think it's a good to give 6 months to a year before getting a top of the line handset.
That's enough for bugs to be noticed (and hopefully fixed), for community development to take off and for the apps to catch up with the new phone's technology. Correct me if I'm wrong, but right now the only apps that can take full advantage of the Sgs2 processors are benchmarks.
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For those interested, Engadget UK just posted a review of the Galaxy S 2:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/28/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-review/
SO gps works...
BRB preordering
Glad they put the USB at the bottom
yeah but is it using the same type of internal memory? that is the biggest bottleneck of any device or computer is the *hard drive*
the internal memory in current phones is single channel read OR write crap.
and please dont say ddr2 memory.... thats different and only helps a little in comparison to the issue with the storage memory
I think I'll just wait for what samsung promise to have a 2ghz dualcore nxtyr or later, I'm still in my 2yr contact though
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i like the coment at the end "best smart phone period!" says it all!
that said i am a little disapointed with the 3d performance of the dual core phones. though the tegra is a powerful application processor and the orion is fast beyond description the open gl performance isnt much beyond what the galaxys already does. was samsung just that far ahead in that area or is there power to be unlocked in these chipsets?
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That looks very promising. I could upgrade my cappy to that for sure. To date i have not seen anything worth upgrading to...
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Why on earth would u want to upgrade to Galasy S2?
They have so much potential and best tech in screens, internal storage, cameras, processors, and good design builds in past YET lately they rush everything (unfinished drivers, bad gps, same 16GB internal but they could have 64 and average camera and cheap plastic to save on costs) so that they can copy iphone because they want some of their success. i personally hate iphone, but every other company copying them just drives apple to think they r the best.. and personally they did make the right choice on A5 to use powerVR543 because even dual VR 543 is faster than quad-core mali400, (big mistake for Samsung as mali400 alone is almost twice weaker than PowerVR 540 used in previous galaxy, which confirms in benchmarks) and NO 3D in galaxy S2 which puts LG optimus 3d and HTC evo 3D in front. and 3D is the future with more and more 3d movies out. and same wvga res that has been since winmo 6.0. sure u don't need the very highest res in a phone, but when u connect it to HDTV via hdmi u will have to rethink that, but then again does galaxy s2 even have HDMI?? On this site: http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxys2/html/specification.htmldoesn't doesn't list hdmi or anything...
Here where things become worse building a phone with large surface area due to 4.27inch screen and full plastic yet copy iphone in trying to make as slim as possible makes it extremely breakable as the phone will slowly start bending over months as u keep it in ur pocket tightly while playing sports etc. This used to happen with motorola razer
And to top this off Android 2.3 DOES NOT fully support multiple cores, well it supports but doesn't take advantage till 3.0 honeycomb (or 3.1 for phones), so if samsung doesn't give u an update AGAIN, or rushes it out full of bugs like they did for galaxy s, ur phone will never see it's potential
And i also got a bit of info from a tweeter a few month back where it was said that samsung is working on quad-core processor for next year and chances are the next one will also be 3D. This goes well in line with guad-core Tegra 3 to be out this fall, and sony NGP already running quad-core.
Point is unlike galaxy S which had at least the best GPU on the market, Galaxy S2 doesn't have anything that stands out. Sure u have super amoled plus, but others will have higher res, and dual-core is MAINSTREAM now. And it will only be a matter of month before this phone be obliterated by it's succesor.
Also from the lawsuit that apple has recently put on samsung might force them to restart making innovative designs like they did prior "galaxy"
You're wrong in several different ways.
1- There's very little point in putting 64gb of storage on a phone. 16/32 internal + 16/32 sd card is way more than enough for me and for 99.9% of users;
2- Reviews of the sgs2 camera place it as one of the best in the market, not sure I'd call it average;
3- Apple's lawsuit is bs and I honestly doubt it will affect anything on the long run. Android and touch wiz are quite different from Ios in important ways;
4- Why do you need 3d on a phone? Where are the apps for it? Why would you watch a 3d movie on a 4.3 inch screen? It'd probably kill the battery before it was over. Maybe, it'll eventually offer some real world advantage, but right now it's just a gimmick;
5- The Sgs2 supports hdmi out via micro usb through mhl technology. Google it;
6- It's wrong to question the build quality and durability without having ever seen the phone upclose. So far, I've seen nothing but praise on reviews and previews. Plastic not only keeps costs down, it also lowers the weight. And since when is making a phone slim apple's idea?;
7- I don't have the expertise to comment on the cpu and gpu, but the benchmarks seemed impressive as hell to me;
8- Screen resolution could be higher, but super amoled technology is so far ahead of the curve that I bet it will more than make up for it.
In short, why upgrade to sgs 2? Best cpu on the market (according to engadget review), best screen on the market, one of the best cameras on the market, bt 3.0+hs, microusb hdmi out, usb on the go (according to gsm arena) and the fact that the galaxy s is already a great phone.
Obviously, there'll be a better phone, eventually, that's the way it is in the tech world, but right now it seems to be a fantastic device, as engadget review shows.
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I dont care the phone is sick and I can't wait to get one. I love my sammy captivate and knowing that's the same thing all jacked up is great. 3d is dumb especially on a phone. Plenty of storage. It will be great to finally have a flash. Super amoled is amazing so super plus is better...what more could you want. We don't need to dwell on tons of worthless info. The phone is gonna be sick and the best anybodies had. Everybody wants it and so do I.
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As it comes time to upgrade once again, I find myself confronted my many options. The phones I am looking at are the Infuse 4g, Inspire 4g, Atrix 4g, Focus and iPhone 4. I am very partial to the Android devices and was hoping to end up with one. I currently have an iPhone 3g but want to trade up due to performance and battery life issues.
I would greatly appreciate some discussion and information on these various devices and the problems and plus's of each. I like the Atrix due to its power, battery and potential if the bootloader is ever unlocked. The Inspire is interesting due to the wide amount of development but I have sever concerns about the power in comeing years, battery life, despite ROM's and the speaker. I like the Infuse's screen, power, and, due to unlocked bootloader, development potential.
I have had Samsung "dumb" phones in the past, the SMS flawed Impression and the sub-par Solstice, so i have some concerns about Samsung phones. I like HTC but dislike them putting tiny batteries in their high end phones. Motorola is generally OK but I understand support is a bit lacking. iPhone is super reliable but I believe the OS is stale and boring. Also, i worry about the 4's future with the advent of the iPhone 5 in the coming months and, like I said, I like Androids.
Lets get some discussion going!
This is posted in the General's of all 3 phones. Excluding the Focus.
AudioMaster13 said:
As it comes time to upgrade once again, I find myself confronted my many options. The phones I am looking at are the Infuse 4g, Inspire 4g, Atrix 4g, Focus and iPhone 4. I am very partial to the Android devices and was hoping to end up with one. I currently have an iPhone 3g but want to trade up due to performance and battery life issues.
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I currently have an iPhone 4 and have an upgrade available but if I had to choose another phone to upgrade to the only option I would really choose is the Infuse 4g, or (if I wait) the iPhone 5 or GalaxySII in September.
I love the IPS high resolution display of the iPhone 4 and the only way someone could get me to switch is with a phone that has greater outdoor readability such as SuperAmoled+. Atrix and Inspire screens just dont cut it for me.
AudioMaster13 said:
As it comes time to upgrade once again, I find myself confronted my many options. The phones I am looking at are the Infuse 4g, Inspire 4g, Atrix 4g, Focus and iPhone 4. I am very partial to the Android devices and was hoping to end up with one. I currently have an iPhone 3g but want to trade up due to performance and battery life issues.
I would greatly appreciate some discussion and information on these various devices and the problems and plus's of each. I like the Atrix due to its power, battery and potential if the bootloader is ever unlocked. The Inspire is interesting due to the wide amount of development but I have sever concerns about the power in comeing years, battery life, despite ROM's and the speaker. I like the Infuse's screen, power, and, due to unlocked bootloader, development potential.
I have had Samsung "dumb" phones in the past, the SMS flawed Impression and the sub-par Solstice, so i have some concerns about Samsung phones. I like HTC but dislike them putting tiny batteries in their high end phones. Motorola is generally OK but I understand support is a bit lacking. iPhone is super reliable but I believe the OS is stale and boring. Also, i worry about the 4's future with the advent of the iPhone 5 in the coming months and, like I said, I like Androids.
Lets get some discussion going!
This is posted in the General's of all 3 phones. Excluding the Focus.
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Just upgraded from captivate to infuse and loving it...even though this thing is basically a giant captivate with a major upgraded battery, front facing camera and amazing 8 megapixal camera...this phone feels so smooth and zips... dunno if its the 1.2 gigahertz processor or just the software, though one thing i miss about my captivate is the ROM support we are starting slow in that regard but are recruiting some of the best developers from other phones so expect big things from developers on the infuse
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Get the infuse 4g single core better battery life, sgs2 dual core lol why you need dualcore when are you going to install photoshop for windows on a phone lol, and having dual core for for me the great disadvantage for for it is is always having to look for an outlet to charge the phone, that's what you called not being mobile, + the high price tag. Just debt use task killer on an android phone. Just use Juice Defender it saves you battery turn of wifi when not in use, and it turn of 4g too while activate edge so you still receive messages
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Atrix has a locked bootloader and is therefore not worth buying.
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Get the infuse 4g single core better battery life, sgs2 dual core lol why you need dualcore when are you going to install photoshop for windows on a phone lol, and having dual core for for me the great disadvantage for for it is is always having to look for an outlet to charge the phone, that's what you called not being mobile, + the high price tag. Just debt use task killer on an android phone. Just use Juice Defender it saves you battery turn of wifi when not in use, and it turn of 4g too while activate edge so you still receive messages
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Hate to burst your bubble, but having additional cores equals better battery life.
1 core @ 100% = 1P (the amount of power it uses)
1 core @ 50% = .4P (due to greater efficiency at less than 100% operating capacity)
2 cores @ 50% each = .8P, while accomplishing the same amount of work.
I'm personally waiting to find out when the Thrill 4G will be coming out. The dual channel RAM seems to give it some strong performance. Supposed release is supposed to be Q2, att shows it as coming soon.
Other than that, the Inspire has great dev support with lots of ROMs to choose from, although I think the Infuse has better hardware and will probably have better support soon.
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Hate to burst your bubble, but having additional cores equals better battery life.
1 core @ 100% = 1P (the amount of power it uses)
1 core @ 50% = .4P (due to greater efficiency at less than 100% operating capacity)
2 cores @ 50% each = .8P, while accomplishing the same amount of work.
I'm personally waiting to find out when the Thrill 4G will be coming out. The dual channel RAM seems to give it some strong performance. Supposed release is supposed to be Q2, att shows it as coming soon.
Other than that, the Inspire has great dev support with lots of ROMs to choose from, although I think the Infuse has better hardware and will probably have better support soon.
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What bubble you silly butt. Your a kid right?
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What bubble you silly butt. Your a kid right?
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No, I'm not, which should be evident from my ability to use proper spelling and grammar.
johnnydeathmatch said:
Hate to burst your bubble, but having additional cores equals better battery life.
1 core @ 100% = 1P (the amount of power it uses)
1 core @ 50% = .4P (due to greater efficiency at less than 100% operating capacity)
2 cores @ 50% each = .8P, while accomplishing the same amount of work.
I'm personally waiting to find out when the Thrill 4G will be coming out. The dual channel RAM seems to give it some strong performance. Supposed release is supposed to be Q2, att shows it as coming soon.
Other than that, the Inspire has great dev support with lots of ROMs to choose from, although I think the Infuse has better hardware and will probably have better support soon.
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This would only be true if the software (OS and apps) were optimized for the dual core. At this point they are not and dual core phones seem to be eating batteries like candy.
johnnydeathmatch said:
Hate to burst your bubble, but having additional cores equals better battery life.
1 core @ 100% = 1P (the amount of power it uses)
1 core @ 50% = .4P (due to greater efficiency at less than 100% operating capacity)
2 cores @ 50% each = .8P, while accomplishing the same amount of work.
I'm personally waiting to find out when the Thrill 4G will be coming out. The dual channel RAM seems to give it some strong performance. Supposed release is supposed to be Q2, att shows it as coming soon.
Other than that, the Inspire has great dev support with lots of ROMs to choose from, although I think the Infuse has better hardware and will probably have better support soon.
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gross over simplification. now when the phone sleeps (most of the time if it is your pocket) you need to support 2 cores, not one.
also your example up there wont happen in the real world. the cpu governor wont just go to 50% and give up as to compare it to another processor. also the 2 cores will never be at similar levels and im sure they are not independantly scalable just yet. data is processed in threads. the end of the thread cant be processed before the begining it need to be done from start to finnish. although, with a pc that has hyper threading it may be able to interupt the thread to start another one and finish the first thread later you cant parellelize everything, multi core and hyper threading are much more effective if many applications are running or applications have processes that can be parallelized and are written to run then that way in multiple threads. what will happen with the simpler arm chips is more likely that there will always be one core working hard (not always the same core) and the driver will force the other core to run at the same frequency(not even the gpu is scalable independant of cpu on any platform i know of, i doubt each core is scalable independantly on the dual core stuff) but it will only be working maybe 30% of the time on shorter threads. for your assumption to be correct you would need applications written in for multi threading and more sophistication in the way the cpus are handled and a governor tuned explicitly for battery life.
dual core may reduce lag when you have a background service running though. that may feel like a significant performance increase even if the cores aren't being fully utilized, this may help with using the phone as a wifi hotspot, or downloading files while playing games. i dont think we should go beyond 2 cores for a while on phones because it is difficult to run multiple applications at the same time with little screen real estate, and any multi tasking will leave most applications idle most of the time. the whole os has been tuned for less lag even on slower hardware. that usually means fewer threads that may be longer. my home pc is a 3 core, i could have had a 4 core or waited for 6+ core but the real world difference is dependant on so many things, i just didnt see the point.
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No, I'm not, which should be evident from my ability to use proper spelling and grammar.
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Okay my bad I actually remember my 3 gay school mate always use that word on my college years, nothing wrong being gay just saying I just remember.
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i am confused between the 2
i need to get 1 of these for my loved 1
if i go with captivate i get Super AMPLED Plus screen
if i go with G2x i get Tegra 2 awsomeness
please help me through this problem,as both these are at comparable prices where i live,please dont suggest me about gettin galaxy s2 as that is way out of my range for the time being
looking forward to you people comments
Thanks
Captivate:
1GHz single core hummingbird (year old tech)
5MP rear camera (no front facing)
720p video capture
PowerVR SGX540 GPU (Corrected by Antigen)
16GB internal memory card
G2X
1GHz dual core tegra 2 (simply nothing comparable right now)
8MP rear camera
1.3MP front camera
1088p video capture
Tegra 2 Hardware Accelerator
HDMI mirroring (awesome feature)
8GB internal memory card (I have a 32GB external in mine, so I'm sitting with over 5GB of empty space on my internal memory card...so the extra 8GB of the captivate has no meaning for me, personally)
I have NO experience using the Captivate, so I can't help you with a comparison. But I can tell you that the G2X is the fastest phone with the most visually stunning graphics I've ever seen.
If you read this board, you'll read about some people that have had no problems with their g2x (I'm one of those), and others that have been plagued with problems. I dunno...for me, there's no question. I would buy this phone again if I had it to do over.
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Captivate:
1GHz single core hummingbird (year old tech)
5MP rear camera (no front facing)
720p video capture
No 3D hardware graphics accelerator
16GB internal memory card
G2X
1GHz dual core tegra 2 (simply nothing comparable right now)
8MP rear camera
1.3MP front camera
1088p video capture
3D hardware graphics accelerator
HDMI mirroring (awesome feature)
8GB internal memory card (I have a 32GB external in mine, so I'm sitting with over 5GB of empty space on my internal memory card...so the extra 8GB of the captivate has no meaning for me, personally)
I have NO experience using the Captivate, so I can't help you with a comparison. But I can tell you that the G2X is the fastest phone with the most visually stunning graphics I've ever seen.
If you read this board, you'll read about some people that have had no problems with their g2x (I'm one of those), and others that have been plagued with problems. I dunno...for me, there's no question. I would buy this phone again if I had it to do over.
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Visually stunning graphics as in video games?
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Yes, high def games seem to run smoother and appear brighter than on other phones I've seen. Your experience may differ, as this is my opinion.
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Yes, high def games seem to run smoother and appear brighter than on other phones I've seen. Your experience may differ, as this is my opinion.
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Also the galaxy s captivate only has a super amoled... not a plus. Big difference.
Also big diferences with a single core vs dual core.
Also galaxy s has no reliable GPS.
The galaxy s has a blue hue also which looks horrible despite the deep blacks.
G2x has its fair share of problems too but they are just software related. I would recommend either waiting for the g2x to be officially updated and re-released or just grab the latest CM7 build....
Or wait for the Galaxy S2 to hit AT&T
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Also the galaxy s captivate only has a super amoled... not a plus. Big difference.
Also big diferences with a single core vs dual core.
Also galaxy s has no reliable GPS.
The galaxy s has a blue hue also which looks horrible despite the deep blacks.
G2x has its fair share of problems too but they are just software related. I would recommend either waiting for the g2x to be officially updated and re-released or just grab the latest CM7 build....
Or wait for the Galaxy S2 to hit AT&T
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Galaxy S2 to hit AT&T- thanks I almost buy for 720$.....u just saved me !
player911 said:
Also the galaxy s captivate only has a super amoled... not a plus. Big difference.
Also big diferences with a single core vs dual core.
Also galaxy s has no reliable GPS.
The galaxy s has a blue hue also which looks horrible despite the deep blacks.
G2x has its fair share of problems too but they are just software related. I would recommend either waiting for the g2x to be officially updated and re-released or just grab the latest CM7 build....
Or wait for the Galaxy S2 to hit AT&T
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Who told you that Galaxy S has a reliable GPS? Lol
It even lacks good drivers for GPS chip!
mmapcpro said:
Captivate:
1GHz single core hummingbird (year old tech)
5MP rear camera (no front facing)
720p video capture
No 3D hardware graphics accelerator
16GB internal memory card
G2X
1GHz dual core tegra 2 (simply nothing comparable right now)
8MP rear camera
1.3MP front camera
1088p video capture
3D hardware graphics accelerator
HDMI mirroring (awesome feature)
8GB internal memory card (I have a 32GB external in mine, so I'm sitting with over 5GB of empty space on my internal memory card...so the extra 8GB of the captivate has no meaning for me, personally)
I have NO experience using the Captivate, so I can't help you with a comparison. But I can tell you that the G2X is the fastest phone with the most visually stunning graphics I've ever seen.
If you read this board, you'll read about some people that have had no problems with their g2x (I'm one of those), and others that have been plagued with problems. I dunno...for me, there's no question. I would buy this phone again if I had it to do over.
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Well, dude, if I were you - I'd have read some stuff about the phone before suggesting your opinions to smb.
Captivate has no GPU? LoL
Correct: All Galaxy S series (t-mo, at&t, verizon) phones have a GPU. PowerVR SGX540. Actually it's on par with G2x's Tegra 2 Geforce ULV.
You're right, I'm an idiot. The Galaxy S does have the PowerVR SGX540 gpu.
I apologize for any harm done.
I still don't believe the Captivate's gaming abilities are on par with the G2X when you consider both performance and efficiency. However, it is a top-notch gpu, and I'll retract that argument in my post.
And as far as offering my opinion before reading up on the Captivate? First, yes, I admittedly posted 1 line of incorrect information. All of the other information in my post is 100% accurate. Second, if you took time to read for yourself, you will notice that I specifically stated that I had no experience using the Captivate, so I couldn't provide a comparison between the 2 phones. I only posted spec differences as they were listed on the phone service provider's website. Why did I hurt your feelings?
I work for ATT and personal think the captivate is garbage.
We nicknamed it the Craptivate.
CPU is slow comapred to Tegra 2. Hell the hummingbird seemed slow compaired to the Snapdragon 1GHZ
Captivates camera sucks and has no flash
Touchwiz (samsungs skin) sucks
captivates GPS SUCKS
Captivate is 3G G2X is 4G
Super AMOLED has nice blacks but horrible whites.
If your looking at an ATT phone look at the Infuse 4G.
I currently have the G2x and the Infuse 4G. I like the G2x much better.
The Infuse 4G is pretty cool. And i hear the Galaxys S2 is pretty awesome.
But for the most part i dont think Samsung has put out a good phone since their Flipphones back in the late 90's early 00's
@OP
I have the G2x (or rather the Optimus 2x, same phone p-999 only it isnt T-mo branded)
A friend of mine has the Captivate and its no contest. Go with the G2x.
G2x has a better build (if you can find one without light bleed issues) and a much better feel in the hand compared to the Captivate.
Tegra 2 is a beast. I come from the Nexus One and then the Nexus S and i can assure you that the G2x blows those two pure google phones out of the water simply due to the Tegra.
Also, I have a Sensation 4G I'm playing around with to see if i should sell the G2x and right now im heavily in favour of the G2x simply because it is rooted and i've got custom kernels and ROMs on it. In fact I am only waiting this week for HTC to come clean with the bootloader before i sell it (temp-root isnt cutting it for me).
The G2x has a better screen and the Tegra is way better at processing multimedia than the Snapdragon (Google Maps app loads and processes map data 3 to 5 seconds faster on the 1GHZ Tegra than on the 1.2 GHZ Snapdragon).
Get a G2x, youre not going to regret it.
I would definitely go with the G2x. I've owned a Vibrant (which is very identical to the Captivate) and it has GPS issues which the Captivate is known for having also and the software has a great amount of lag unless you root it and install VOODOO LAG FIX. The Vibrant was a great phone once rooted minus the GPS. Just to be fair I can almost bet you money that if you post this in the Captivate forum (if you haven't already done so) that even Captivate owners would say the G2x is the better phone out of the two. We have the hardware to support just about any software android throws at us in the future. This phone is almost future proof.
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The new release of IPAD3 will hit Verizon and ATT on March 16, equipped with 4G+Wifi and non 4G. It's the fact that apple A5X chip (quad core) is 4 time faster that droid tegra 3, higher resolution (2048 x 1536 ipad vs Asus transformer 700series 1920 x 1200, which suppose to release around June, 2012). Together with the high end hardware, apple also boost their software with amazing video editor, autodesk (hand draw graphic design), camera editing software and namco games designed just for Ipad...I'm a droid fan but I just have to admit, Apple is one of warrior that we may NOT able to beat...I'm thinking of pick one up, the one without 4G (extra $30 a month) and use my charge for 4g tethering every time I'm on the road.
You fell for Apple's use of fancy words. The A5X chip is a dual core cpu with a quad core gpu. Yes, you get no more CPU performance, just more graphics performance, which almost nothing takes advantage of fully now with the A5. Besides the updated screen and new software, there is really nothing spectacular about the new iPad. Just like the iPhone 4S update, it's a few minor spec bumps that Apple marketing (they are a marketing company that just happens to also sell stuff) made sound like the latest and greatest technology. Wait until other manufacturers get a chance to actually start using the new and upcoming quad-core SoCs
It's also not a Droid Tegra 3 or Droid pad. It is a Tegra 3 processor, which can be used by anyone on any platform, and Android Tablets. The Tegra 3 is actually a quad core cpu with 12 core gpu (technically 5 core cpu), and who knows how it will benchmark against Apple's chip, since Apple didn't release any firm details about how the new A5X benchmarked higher than the Tegra 3, or how much higher, or if it was a production Tegra 3 chip.
Personally, I would wait to see what Samsung comes up with this summer/fall to counter it, and even if they don't have anything, I would still take a GalaxyTab 7.7 over an iPad any day of the week.
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You fell for Apple's use of fancy words. The A5X chip is a dual core cpu with a quad core gpu. Yes, you get no more CPU performance, just more graphics performance, which almost nothing takes advantage of fully now with the A5. Besides the updated screen and new software, there is really nothing spectacular about the new iPad. Just like the iPhone 4S update, it's a few minor spec bumps that Apple marketing (they are a marketing company that just happens to also sell stuff) made sound like the latest and greatest technology. Wait until other manufacturers get a chance to actually start using the new and upcoming quad-core SoCs
It's also not a Droid Tegra 3 or Droid pad. It is a Tegra 3 processor, which can be used by anyone on any platform, and Android Tablets. The Tegra 3 is actually a quad core cpu with 12 core gpu (technically 5 core cpu), and who knows how it will benchmark against Apple's chip, since Apple didn't release any firm details about how the new A5X benchmarked higher than the Tegra 3, or how much higher, or if it was a production Tegra 3 chip.
Personally, I would wait to see what Samsung comes up with this summer/fall to counter it, and even if they don't have anything, I would still take a GalaxyTab 7.7 over an iPad any day of the week.
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Yea ***** what he said!....no offense buhohitr
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Yea ***** what he said!....no offense buhohitr
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Non taken, I'm here for a nice hobby and for fun....that's all.
Question: are you a Droid fan or Android fan?
Anyway,not much more to say than what Imnuts said. The thing is, the iPad 2's A5 chip proved to beat Tegra 3 in a series of benchmarks, though T3 was running on Honeycomb(and they were offscreen benchmarks). I wonder if the results would have been different if T3 was running on ICS.
What I'm very curious to see is Samsung's offering(higher resolution screen and quad core Exynos). Maybe even with bone stock ICS. That would be my dream tablet
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I have friends who are diehard apple fanboys and even they say they're not getting it because its "pretty much the same as the 2"... a lot of people are starting to catch on to what Imnuts said about marketing gimmicks and releasing old tech as "revolutionary"
that said I also agree that I'll be waiting for the next quad core beast from Asus ($200 Google Nexus tablet anyone?) or maybe Samsung but I don't want their ugly ass bloated touchwiz over ICS
p.s. the only good thing I could see being brought about by this 3rd iPad would be hopefully display manufacturers will see that its possible to make higher-than-1080p displays for a reasonable price... also LOL at them for including what is basically a laptop capacity battery in it, and I doubt it would really get 10 hours on 4G
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It still isn't worth getting one if the OS is just a magnified iPhone OS (like it can't do anything new compared to the iPhone 4s)
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You fell for Apple's use of fancy words. The A5X chip is a dual core cpu with a quad core gpu. Yes, you get no more CPU performance, just more graphics performance, which almost nothing takes advantage of fully now with the A5. Besides the updated screen and new software, there is really nothing spectacular about the new iPad. Just like the iPhone 4S update, it's a few minor spec bumps that Apple marketing (they are a marketing company that just happens to also sell stuff) made sound like the latest and greatest technology. Wait until other manufacturers get a chance to actually start using the new and upcoming quad-core SoCs
It's also not a Droid Tegra 3 or Droid pad. It is a Tegra 3 processor, which can be used by anyone on any platform, and Android Tablets. The Tegra 3 is actually a quad core cpu with 12 core gpu (technically 5 core cpu), and who knows how it will benchmark against Apple's chip, since Apple didn't release any firm details about how the new A5X benchmarked higher than the Tegra 3, or how much higher, or if it was a production Tegra 3 chip.
Personally, I would wait to see what Samsung comes up with this summer/fall to counter it, and even if they don't have anything, I would still take a GalaxyTab 7.7 over an iPad any day of the week.
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Uh... no. iOS is GPU accelerated. Its interface and UI relies heavily on the GPU, much more so than Android. The stronger the GPU, for example, the less checkerboarding you experience when scrolling webpages. Of course this is more than negated by 4x the pixels, so day to day performance may not be as good as on the iPad 2.
In Anand's testing they found the iPad 2's GPU to be about 30% faster on average than the Tegra 3. Apple's 2x claim is probably based on a specific test that targets one of Tegra's numerous weaknesses. That said, the iPad 3 uses the same GPU as the PS VITA (albeit without the dedicated VRAM and to-the-metal programming). It's a beast. The same goes for that hi-res screen, which won't be surpassed by a shipping product for a year at least.
Apple claimed that in order to support such a super high resolution display, the A5X graphic chip is the key. But..what ever, Nvidia is going to bench mark the A5X and their Tegra 3...the true will reveal. I may add if indeed Tegra3 is faster, I'm a very happy guy, cause I have my eyes on the coming Asus Transformer 700 due to release sometime in June 2012. Beside the hardware, Apple also released 5 killer apps; video editor(amazing photo editor and movie maker), autodesk(free hand graphic design), 2 new games from Namco and Epic, icloud garage band where 4 people (drumer,guitar,keyboard,bass) can play the same song over the internet.
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Apple claimed that in order to support such a super high resolution display, the A5X graphic chip is the key. But..what ever, Nvidia is going to bench mark the A5X and their Tegra 3...the true will reveal. I may add if indeed Tegra3 is faster, I'm a very happy guy, cause I have my eyes on the coming Asus Transformer 700 due to release sometime in June 2012. Beside the hardware, Apple also released 5 killer apps; video editor(amazing photo editor and movie maker), autodesk(free hand graphic design), 2 new games from Namco and Epic, icloud garage band where 4 people (drumer,guitar,keyboard,bass) can play the same song over the internet.
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iCloud seems very similar to Google's cloud services.
As for Autodesk, doesn't that company have an app(or apps) for android as well? Both OS systems have Photoshop Touch, which seems like a great photo editing tools in its own right.
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iCloud seems very similar to Google's cloud services.
As for Autodesk, doesn't that company have an app(or apps) for android as well? Both OS systems have Photoshop Touch, which seems like a great photo editing tools in its own right.
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Obviously, you haven't read the link for apple event. We're not talking about photoshop and Autodesk for ipad3 is not same as android. Sure google has gcloud, but here we're talking about using the cloud to play music as a band using Ipad3 as music instrument. Click on the link and find out more....
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Uh... no. iOS is GPU accelerated. Its interface and UI relies heavily on the GPU, much more so than Android. The stronger the GPU, for example, the less checkerboarding you experience when scrolling webpages. Of course this is more than negated by 4x the pixels, so day to day performance may not be as good as on the iPad 2.
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The UI is no more or less accelerated now with ICS for Android from what I've read. The only stuff left in Android that isn't GPU driven isn't going to tax the CPU to render it. The only reason that the added GPU power will be needed is the high resolution, which is pointless IMO. Why get a higher resolution other than to brag about it? You think Samsung/LG/etc. couldn't make a higher resolution display if they wanted to? They're sticking to 1080p/720p because it's a standard resolution and you won't be powering unnecessary pixels if you don't have to, which you will be doing on that display when watching HD videos. Either way, I give it 3-4 months before someone displays a better product, if not sooner. No one has any idea how the OMAP5 really performs, or the quad-core Exynos chips, and if anyone will best the A5X, those are probably the best candidates.
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Obviously, you haven't read the link for apple event. We're not talking about photoshop and Autodesk for ipad3 is not same as android. Sure google has gcloud, but here we're talking about using the cloud to play music as a band using Ipad3 as music instrument. Click on the link and find out more....
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Playing music as a band using the iPad 3 using "the cloud"(which pretty much means using the iPad's LTE modem) sounds like what multiplayer games on iOS and Android do.
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Ugh iPad is only quicker cause it's less complex OS
Android will always be light years ahead of apple in technological advances it has usb plug ins since atrix and honeycomb
Apple is far more interested in marketing than creating the best device as long as they can keep u buying everything thru their e-stores they will be happy
I have an iPad 2 and tegra devices will ALWAYS have more features and a faster platform nuff said
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I would still take a GalaxyTab 7.7 over an iPad any day of the week.
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The display on the Galaxy Tab 7.7 is gorgeous. Also, I have some Apple fanboy coworkers who admit that having a 7" iPad would be awesome, and that typing/holding an iPad can be cumbersome.
Oh iPad, you are so revolutionary.
Side rant: I love how Apple upgraded the cameras on the iPad3 and acted like it's a big deal. Cameras... on a tablet.. Who in the **** uses their tablet's cameras that often to warrant a hardware upgrade? The cameras were fine! How about updating the damn OS.
Don't get me started on Siri. Aimbot, anyone?
OK, for better comparison, let just comparing ONLY 4G device; Ipad3 clearly the winner here over any android tablet currently on the Market. Let's not even talk about the future, because it's endless and mute discussion.
People are so offensive when ever we talk about the "competitor". Like 'Ipad3 has the highest screen resolution", Oh that's not needed, it's not make that much of different. Come on admitted, they do have higher resolution than any other device out there. Sometime, we should hold back our egos and watch and listen, we may learn something new. I'm an Android fan, but sometime the competitor is better and I will admit they're better and sometime when Android is better, we should be proud. Only kids bashing other kids.
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OK, for better comparison, let just comparing ONLY 4G device; Ipad3 clearly the winner here over any android tablet currently on the Market. Let's not even talk about the future, because it's endless and mute discussion.
People are so offensive when ever we talk about the "competitor". Like 'Ipad3 has the highest screen resolution", Oh that's not needed, it's not make that much of different. Come on admitted, they do have higher resolution than any other device out there. Sometime, we should hold back our egos and watch and listen, we may learn something new. I'm an Android fan, but sometime the competitor is better and I will admit they're better and sometime when Android is better, we should be proud. Only kids bashing other kids.
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I agree. Having competition is good for Google. I have recently changed my view of IOS devices, and I'd have no problem getting an IP3 ..(if it were free and Jail broken.)
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Side rant: I love how Apple upgraded the cameras on the iPad3 and acted like it's a big deal. Cameras... on a tablet.. Who in the **** uses their tablet's cameras that often to warrant a hardware upgrade? The cameras were fine! How about updating the damn OS.
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The FFC is still the same VGA camera that was on the iPad2, they only upgraded the rear camera.
buhohitr said:
OK, for better comparison, let just comparing ONLY 4G device; Ipad3 clearly the winner here over any android tablet currently on the Market. Let's not even talk about the future, because it's endless and mute discussion.
People are so offensive when ever we talk about the "competitor". Like 'Ipad3 has the highest screen resolution", Oh that's not needed, it's not make that much of different. Come on admitted, they do have higher resolution than any other device out there. Sometime, we should hold back our egos and watch and listen, we may learn something new. I'm an Android fan, but sometime the competitor is better and I will admit they're better and sometime when Android is better, we should be proud. Only kids bashing other kids.
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I would still take the GalaxyTab 7.7. And yes, it has a higher screen resolution, but how is it useful? The only good thing about that high resolution is that you could see pictures without zooming in as much. The more screen real estate you're getting, it's going to take developers a while to take advantage of it because it is such a huge increase. It's pointless for movies and videos, when is the last time you saw a movie with a resolution greater than 1080p? For video viewing, you have wasted screen space. I'm sure the display looks great, but until we actually have videos that are >1080i/p, I don't see a reason to have a higher resolution display.
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The FFC is still the same VGA camera that was on the iPad2, they only upgraded the rear camera.
I would still take the GalaxyTab 7.7. And yes, it has a higher screen resolution, but how is it useful? The only good thing about that high resolution is that you could see pictures without zooming in as much. The more screen real estate you're getting, it's going to take developers a while to take advantage of it because it is such a huge increase. It's pointless for movies and videos, when is the last time you saw a movie with a resolution greater than 1080p? For video viewing, you have wasted screen space. I'm sure the display looks great, but until we actually have videos that are >1080i/p, I don't see a reason to have a higher resolution display.
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Higher resolution is great for gaming!
Ipad 3 is amazing but dont android OS my favorite tablet samsung asus vs.!
Bye all Mytouch friendsssss this phone is was good while it lasted, on to bigger and better things.
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Bye all Mytouch friendsssss this phone is was good while it lasted, on to bigger and better things.
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Bigger is not always better
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Bigger is not always better
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In this case i would have to say so only if it had the hardware keyboard :l lol but ill get over it
Why would someone leave a dual core device with a keyboard, for another dual core device with no keyboard? Beats me
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I still have both devices and because this s2 only cost me 250 off craigslist
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I'm curious... Has T-Mobile started giving S2s as a replacement for our phone yet?
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Actually that is exactly true. The SGS2 has numerious advantages over the DS. First is the S3 snapdragon processor or samsung exynos processor. Both processors are at 1.5ghz. Also both processors have better GPU. Next is RAM amount. The SGS2 has 1024MB of RAM. The DS only has 768mb. Next is screen quality. The SGS2 has a brilliant 4.5in Super AMOLED Plus screen. Colors are deeper and richer. The DS has a 3.7in Basic LCD screen. Colors look washed out. Next is battery life. The SGS2 has a 1,800 MAH Battery. While the DS has the 1,450 MAH. Average talk time is 7.5hrs on the SGS2 while the DS is around 4 hrs of talk time. Next is dev support. The SGS2 has huge dev support. The DS barely has 0.01% support that the SGS2 has. Next is the SGS2 has much better support from the manufacturer. The SGS2 has had 2.3.4, 2.3.5, 2.3.6, 4.0.2, and 4.0.3 all official os updates or leaked direct from samsung. The DS has seen 2.3.4 and 3 patches direct from htc. The DS is the red head step child for htc. The one and ONLY advantage the DS has over the SGS2 is the keyboard. Every other aspect it falls really short. And yes they are both "Dual core" but thats where the simulatiles end. There is also huge differences in quad scores (+2000 difference). Oh and the SGS2 has a 2.3MP front facing camera while the DS is a basic VGA. And the SGS2 also has a much better camera (They are both 8Mp) but samsungs is so much crisper and better color quality. Not to mention true zero shutter lag. So at the end of the day the OP Made a wise choice.
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Actually that is exactly true. The SGS2 has numerious advantages over the DS. First is the S3 snapdragon processor or samsung exynos processor. Both processors are at 1.5ghz. Also both processors have better GPU. Next is RAM amount. The SGS2 has 1024MB of RAM. The DS only has 768mb. Next is screen quality. The SGS2 has a brilliant 4.5in Super AMOLED Plus screen. Colors are deeper and richer. The DS has a 3.7in Basic LCD screen. Colors look washed out. Next is battery life. The SGS2 has a 1,800 MAH Battery. While the DS has the 1,450 MAH. Average talk time is 7.5hrs on the SGS2 while the DS is around 4 hrs of talk time. Next is dev support. The SGS2 has huge dev support. The DS barely has 0.01% support that the SGS2 has. Next is the SGS2 has much better support from the manufacturer. The SGS2 has had 2.3.4, 2.3.5, 2.3.6, 4.0.2, and 4.0.3 all official os updates or leaked direct from samsung. The DS has seen 2.3.4 and 3 patches direct from htc. The DS is the red head step child for htc. The one and ONLY advantage the DS has over the SGS2 is the keyboard. Every other aspect it falls really short. And yes they are both "Dual core" but thats where the simulatiles end. There is also huge differences in quad scores (+2000 difference). Oh and the SGS2 has a 2.3MP front facing camera while the DS is a basic VGA. And the SGS2 also has a much better camera (They are both 8Mp) but samsungs is so much crisper and better color quality. Not to mention true zero shutter lag. So at the end of the day the OP Made a wise choice.
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I'm inclined to agree. Especially with the dev support, if you can move from a doubleshot to the gs2 without spending too much, its a no brainer. That's also assuming, of course, that you won't miss the keyboard, which is a purely personal choice.
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Lmfao. Not compared to the SGS2. Its a snail compared to it. The SGS2 is the beast. Bone stock 6500+ antutu scores vs 3000+ the DShot has. The max score ive seen a DS get is 7200 on Antutu thats maxed out OC to 1.782ghz. The SGS2 gets 6000-6500 at 1.2ghz and 8500-9500 OCed to 1.6ghz.
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I'm inclined to agree. Especially with the dev support, if you can move from a doubleshot to the gs2 without spending too much, its a no brainer. That's also assuming, of course, that you won't miss the keyboard, which is a purely personal choice.
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Exactly. I agree. Couldnt of said it any better.
Don't the SGS2 and the DS have the same exact chipset? Just the DSes is manufactured underclocked. Also benchmarks aren't everything. I'm pretty sure the DS can run anything the SGS2 can with ease.
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Don't the SGS2 and the DS have the same exact chipset? Just the DSes is manufactured underclocked. Also benchmarks aren't everything. I'm pretty sure the DS can run anything the SGS2 can with ease.
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It's an apples to oranges comparison.
The OP was letting us know he was leaving, and almost led to selling his device to me, but ended up getting it to another - that creates purpose for his posting.
The rest of this thread seems to have turned into someone trying to make themselves feel better by trying to put someone else down - don't feed the troll.
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The Doubleshot uses the Qualcomm Snapdragon S2 Processor. The AT&T and Tmobile versions have the Qualcomm Snapdragon S3 Processor and Sprints version uses Samsungs Exynos Processor. The S3 processor can process tasks much faster then the S2 processor thus higher benchmark scores. Not to mention better GPU. The exynos has even better processing power and even better GPU then both S2 and S3 processors. Qualcomm just released the Snapdragon S4 processor found in the american varient of the HTC One X. It has slightly better processing and GPU then the Exynos Processor but not much. Samsungs Hummingbird and Exynos processors have always been better then there competitors. Trust me the DS is not slow by any means but the S3. S4. And Exynos processors are just better.
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The Doubleshot uses an S3 processor. I'm inclined to agree that the GS2 is generally a better phone for most people. I like the Doubleshot better because the keyboard is extremely useful to me and it fits better in my pockets. Also, being able to go directly to the camera through the button has been a lifesaver at times.
I don't understand. These people like the keyboard, and its the worst keyboard on any phone that I have used... The keyboard is so bad it was easier most times to use the onscreen keyboard.
Unfortunately tmobiles best phone for now is the s2. Its sad because there are some better phones out but tmobile is always behind the times.
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I don't understand. These people like the keyboard, and its the worst keyboard on any phone that I have used... The keyboard is so bad it was easier most times to use the onscreen keyboard.
Unfortunately tmobiles best phone for now is the s2. Its sad because there are some better phones out but tmobile is always behind the times.
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It's true that it isn't the best keyboard... My java based Rumor Touch had a better physical keyboard when I had it, but the DS is probably one of the most powerful android phones that have a physical keyboard and after using it for a couple months I can type on the keyboard fairly fast and it does seem to give better tactile feedback then when I first got it, it's like it just needed to get broken in. But to each there own. I was used to using an onscreen keyboard since my last 2 phones were just candybar style androids, but it's nice to have a physical keyboard.
The right feel...
IMO, it is all about how the phone feels/performs in your hand and how it meets your demands. The SG S2,for me, feels too fragile/plasticy whereas the DS feels sexy, soft and yet dorable and can go the distance. Phones are like girl friends, you don't have to have the most popular girl, just the one that feels right for you.
I know there are many things about the Tab Plus that make it a superior piece of hardware, but the Nexus 7 is one of the few 7" devices that even comes close to it in specs and performance.
The one great thing is that it will get the latest OS updates and that will make it a more fun device to use. It hasn't even shipped yet, but has its own forum and someone has already figured out how to root the device . . . The most frustrating thing about Samsung is its silence and sluggishness regarding updating our beloved device. Not to mention the wifi driver issue.
I don't plan on getting rid of my Tab Plus but I have a Nexus 7 on pre order and can't wait to try some Jelly Bean.
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Well it has the superior processor and better software support, downside would be the missing microSD slot, limited internal storage and lack of 3g. So on the one hand you are dependent on the cloud but you dont get mobile data capabilities. Sure Tegra 3 is nice but i still think the tab+ is at the very least more mobile.
Oh yeah and the n7 is supposed to have a bit of a better screen.
Since it has only wifi and limited storage it's designed to be used at home mostly which conflicts with the concept of such a small screen size.
OK, so I was really curious about this too. I made a little spreadsheet to compare the GT+wifi to the 16gb N7. It's attached. There's several small differences (dimensions, materials, asthetics, etc.) that were either a matter of taste of too insignificant to call "different." BTW- if I've missed something let me know and I'll update.
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Processor: Tegra 3 Quad Core 1300MHz-----1.2 GHz dual-core Exynos 4210
OS: Android 4.1 Jelly Bean*- Vanilla-----Android 3.2 Honeycomb - Touchwiz
OS Future: Early upgrades for 18 months-----ICS July/August; nothing more
Display: 1280 x 800 IPS-----1024 x 600 PLS
Magnetometer: Yes-----No
USB Digital Audio: Yes-----No
NFC: Yes-----No
USB: MicroUSB w/host-----Samsung Proprietary w/host
Back Camera (MP): No-----3.1
Front Camera (MP): 1.2-----2
Expandable Memory: No-----Yes
Wifi: B/G/N-----A/B/G/N
Wifi 5Ghz: No-----Yes
So, there you have it. If you need mobile data, don't compare, just get a GT+. Also note the difference in user base for the two tablets which means a huge difference in the amount of development.
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OK, so I was really curious about this too. I made a little spreadsheet to compare the GT+wifi to the 16gb N7. It's attached. There's several small differences (dimensions, materials, asthetics, etc.) that were either a matter of taste of too insignificant to call "different." BTW- if I've missed something let me know and I'll update.
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Processor: Tegra 3 Quad Core 1300MHz-----1.2 GHz dual-core Exynos 4210
OS: Android 4.1 Jelly Bean*- Vanilla-----Android 3.2 Honeycomb - Touchwiz
OS Future: Early upgrades for 18 months-----ICS July/August; nothing more
Display: 1280 x 800 IPS-----1024 x 600 PLS
Magnetometer: Yes-----No
USB Digital Audio: Yes-----No
NFC: Yes-----No
USB: MicroUSB w/host-----Samsung Proprietary w/host
Back Camera (MP): No-----3.1
Front Camera (MP): 1.2-----2
Expandable Memory: No-----Yes
Wifi: B/G/N-----A/B/G/N
Wifi 5Ghz: No-----Yes
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Thanks for pulling all this together!
Honestly if the nexus 7 had a microsd card slot id probably rid my gt+ but im not sure if im willing to give up storage for a faster cpu. ... I think it kind of is a downgrade, and cloud come on why would you want your files on another device and not your own? I think its a cool device and may work for you but all n all i think the gt+ is for the win in my book
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I just sold my Gtab+ on ebay today and pre-ordered two Nexus 7.
I'm just tired of Samsung taking forever to roll out major updates, namely ICS. I've had working ICS leaks on my E4GT for several months now, which I am enjoying and all, however my P6210 has seen no such love. Its not mobile/3g so the carrier argument is null. What bothers me further is that Samsung put out the tab 2, which is extremely similar yet its got ICS.
I decided to sell it now, while i still can and forego the microSD card slot. apart from that, i am gaining a far superior tab that has much greater function (to me) than the tab plus.
Despite the Lack of external storage I do not see how a Gtab plus is in any way better than the Nexus 7. Even if it has 3G, pages are slow to load and browsers FC more often than i'd like to admit. I find myself (when using my phone) waiting and hopping onto wifi more often than waiting for 3G.
Based on Specs alone, my wants and needs would be satisfied by the Nexus 7. As great as external storage would be for movies during flights and trips, i can still make plenty of use of 16GB of on board storage for my half way around the world flights.
Small correction, the plus has a magnetometer
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killerbicycle said:
I just sold my Gtab+ on ebay today and pre-ordered two Nexus 7.
I'm just tired of Samsung taking forever to roll out major updates, namely ICS. I've had working ICS leaks on my E4GT for several months now, which I am enjoying and all, however my P6210 has seen no such love. Its not mobile/3g so the carrier argument is null. What bothers me further is that Samsung put out the tab 2, which is extremely similar yet its got ICS.
I decided to sell it now, while i still can and forego the microSD card slot. apart from that, i am gaining a far superior tab that has much greater function (to me) than the tab plus.
Despite the Lack of external storage I do not see how a Gtab plus is in any way better than the Nexus 7. Even if it has 3G, pages are slow to load and browsers FC more often than i'd like to admit. I find myself (when using my phone) waiting and hopping onto wifi more often than waiting for 3G.
Based on Specs alone, my wants and needs would be satisfied by the Nexus 7. As great as external storage would be for movies during flights and trips, i can still make plenty of use of 16GB of on board storage for my half way around the world flights.
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Just some quick thoughts on my future with my GT7+...not commenting on anyone else's decision to switch or not....
Not sure if I'll sell my GT7+ or repurpose it, but I too have ordered an N7. Lack of ICS (my 10 android tab has it so I do know what I'm missing- unfortunately I don't have time these days to root/hack as much as I'd like to get an unofficial ICS on the GT7) is a big issue for me so getting to leapfrog it for JellyB is a dream. Day to day performance compared to iOS has always been so disappointing and it looks like JB will have that smooth, buttery UX that android has been severely lacking. I can't wait! I know many will disagree with that statement, but fanboi-ism aside, you gotta admit, why does android need two or even four cores running at 1.2-1.7Ghz to run as smoothly as iOS (which only uses a dual 1Ghz cpu or slower)? I'm not a dev or coder so don't know the nuts and bolts of the OS, but as a consumer the slow downs, freezes, stutters, etc is a deal killer.
These days an iPad3 is my main tab (/ducks...lol), but I still think the GT7 size is a portable sweet spot. There are times the iPad just feel to big to bring. Plus, the horsepower of Tegra 3 with that monster GPU (12 cores!) will make the N7 a serious competitor to the iPad for games and multimedia content creation (photo and video in my case)- if we get the proper apps. Another thing the the N7 got me with is a better supported screen rez- I've had app compatibility issues possibly because 1024x768 wasn't properly supported for a honeycomb tablet.
16GB with no expansion might be tough, but support for USB drives will come soon if not available at launch. No HDMI out is also a bummer, though again, I've read MHL support could be added with a firmware update.
Lack of 3G is a non-issue. 3G sucks. Sorry, but come on, in this age of LTE, good WiFi coverage about anywhere and LTE MiFi's, I would never pay extra to have 3G in a device these days. LTE data plans are about the same cost as 3G now and coverage is only getting better (obviously, I'm only talking about the US and have no idea what the situation for LTE is in other parts of the world)
Anyway, I know I'll always have uses for both OS's- well, my work requires I know and use both, but it's gonna be great to have a device that won't sometimes make me feel like a beta tester when I use Android.
Damn, ipad was never into the discussion.
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Yuck, sold mt ipad 2 to get this one. As long as they put ****ty software on it which is only designed to restrict your freedom, im not ever gonna get anything with a bitten apple on it lol.
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Oh yeah an that with 3g is your opinion, but it highly depends on where you live. When youre on the countryside 3g is your only option, since there is bad lte coverage and wifi only at home so...
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Keeping my TabPlus, waiting for N7+.
Hey! nobody saw that the n7 has no interface for tablet? This is very important for the GT +
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Hey! nobody saw that the n7 has no interface for tablet? This is very important for the GT +
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If you can't find google or the search button, how did you make it to XDA?
GTab+: MicroSD, HDMI (with dongle), rear camera + LED, haptic feedback.
N7: Better resolution, OS, CPU, easier to hold (grippy case), NFC
I'll be keeping my GTab+ P6210 for now. Besides being a bit slower and lower res, it suits my purposes fine and has all the extras. Hopefully the OS will catch up eventually (at least 4.04 with good custom ROM, don't care for TW that much). Might get an N7 later but not in a huge rush right now.
Keeping my GT+
but want to order the 32 Gig Nexus 7 (they are currently sold out)to have a cream of the crop OS to play with . The only reason I need the Xtra space is for movies so I'll just bring my GPlus when on long trips and the Nexus 7 for short ones. :good:
Well i wont leave my GT+ for sure.. I use it for cellular purpose and also browsing internet.. its my main gadget now ^^, but eyah, another 7" tab for 200 $ with 1.3 quad tegra.. jelly bean.. quite a good offer for self amusement.. will consider getting that N7 as well.. but GT+ will always be my main, for now..
Another direct comparison.
http://versusio.com/en/google-nexus-7-8gb-vs-samsung-galaxy-tab-7-0-plus-p6210-32gb
This comparision is bull****.
No DLNA on P6210?
Nexus 7 doesn't have USB mass storage out of the box.
Free navigation? You can install Google Maps on P6210 for free too.
Also this bull**** comparision doesn't mention things like rear facing camera, LED flash on P6210.