Just stumbled upon this while surfing... so wanted to share
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found the image on:
www . thegalaxytabforum.com/index.php?/topic/7574-ice-cream-sandwich/page__view__findpost__p__33299
(p.s.: i dont have enough posts to post a link so just delete the spaces in between)
EDIT: Thank you scottyf79 for pointing me to the right direction... it is Roaches TF
forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19474231&postcount=1514
Don't see any diffrence.
ICS is essentially honeycomb for phones. At least in terms of UX design
I took the image from Roaches prime thread and posted it up on thegalaxytab.com.........the origional link is on the second or third last page of the Prime rom thread in the dev section (on xda of course) and its Roaches TF.
I think it looks like auto-rotation doesn't work...
wynand32 said:
I think it looks like auto-rotation doesn't work...
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Or that ICS doesn't support tablets
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mikelt89 said:
Or that ICS doesn't support tablets
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If this isn't sarcasm GTFO.
scottyf79 said:
I took the image from Roaches prime thread and posted it up on thegalaxytab.com.........the origional link is on the second or third last page of the Prime rom thread in the dev section (on xda of course) and its Roaches TF.
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Here's the link, to save others having to find it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19474231&postcount=1514
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Don't see any diffrence.
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Well, beyond the obvious (not ignoring the settings and rotating from portrait back to landscape when mounted in the dock), I see the following:
* Stock Back, Home, and Recent Apps buttons, rather than the Asus modified ones (which I think look far better).
* New font (most noticeable in the clock, but it's different everywhere).
* Settings menu is completely rearranged into four categories, and now includes some switches (Wifi, Bluetooth) in the left column.
* The names and icons for some of the pre-existing items in the left column of the Settings menu have changed.
* Much less info and no System Firmware Update option on About page.
* Bright instead of dark blue background on selected items, also bright blue divider lines in status menu at lower right
* Bottom of status menu now flush with top of system bar, not overlapped
* Ugly graduated darkening effect on the right side of the screen with the status menu is now gone, so is the even uglier blue glow effect at top and bottom of the menu, replaced with a much cleaner drop shadow for the whole menu.
* No day of the week in the date, and it all fits on one line
* The "sun" icon to the right of the battery level (which one would expect to have something to do with brightness, but it doesn't) is replaced with a different icon, albeit still one that doesn't seem to have any purpose.
* The Settings icon at top left is replaced with a more logical one.
looks cool to me but looks like it doesnt support the dock.
the orginal asus transformer is staying on the market and the asus transformer prime is getting sold as a premium tablet for around £750 so the fact that the tf101 is staying on the market suggests is will get a OTA update however we may have to wait a while as they will put more efforts into getting it out to the asus transformer prime and it takes them a while to edit the software to make the dock work. however if both transformers can take exactly the same OS with the same alterations (the is no reason they cant however the dock firmware updates may differ due to different design) then we should see it in december when the asus transformer prime update is said to be ready
Adkinson said:
ICS is essentially honeycomb for phones. At least in terms of UX design
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Far better hardware acceleration and smooth UI in tablets though.
jackt6509 said:
looks cool to me but looks like it doesnt support the dock.
the orginal asus transformer is staying on the market and the asus transformer prime is getting sold as a premium tablet for around £750 so the fact that the tf101 is staying on the market suggests is will get a OTA update however we may have to wait a while as they will put more efforts into getting it out to the asus transformer prime and it takes them a while to edit the software to make the dock work. however if both transformers can take exactly the same OS with the same alterations (the is no reason they cant however the dock firmware updates may differ due to different design) then we should see it in december when the asus transformer prime update is said to be ready
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You misunderstand. The picture in this thread has absolutely nothing to do with Asus. They already have Ice Cream Sandwich running on the Prime and almost certainly on the original Transformer too, in a state far advanced from that in the picture, because they have access not only to the Ice Cream Sandwich source, but also the drivers for all the hardware etc. required to get everything running.
The picture in this thread was made by somebody who built the Ice Cream Sandwich source into their OWN rom, likely taking drivers from other existing roms to get everything working. As confirmed in a video from (I believe) the same user on YouTube, rotation doesn't work in their build, and nor does audio work at all. It's merely a work in progress, right now.
A separate video on YouTube shows the Prime running Ice Cream Sandwich, and it looks to work very well. I would guess it's either in testing, awaiting approval for release, or both. I'd also guess that the build for the original Transformer -- which Asus have very clearly stated that we WILL be getting -- is in the exact same state, since Asus knows exactly what the hardware differences are between the two, and can easily swap out drivers etc.
I would wager there will be far bigger differences in the tablet firmware than in the dock firmware, by the way. The dock is almost unchanged -- the keyboard is identical, the card slot is identical, the USB connectivity is identical (there's just less physical ports), the only real differences are that I don't believe they're using the same battery pack, they've supposedly put an unported subwoofer in the dock, and I would be surprised if they've not redesigned their power circuitry some more to try and resolve some of the complaints about battery life that lingered after the first-gen Transformer dock update.
ICS isnt just honeycomb for phones. it seems to be the best from gingerbread and the best from honeycomb.
problem as far as i can see is that there is no landscape launcher mode so it might be tricky on a docked TF.
lots of improvements in ICS and facial unlock is fun (and surprisingly accurate) but not hugely secure
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ICS isnt just honeycomb for phones. it seems to be the best from gingerbread and the best from honeycomb.
problem as far as i can see is that there is no landscape launcher mode so it might be tricky on a docked TF.
lots of improvements in ICS and facial unlock is fun (and surprisingly accurate) but not hugely secure
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Of course it works in landscape mode. People are misunderstanding that this picture comes from a third-party who does not work for Google or Asus, and who simply is building the source and trying to make it work on his own personal tablet. He's not got orientation support working yet; that has nothing to do with ICS on retail products.
How would it make any sense whatsoever for Google to remove landscape-mode support that was present in Honeycomb?
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Of course it works in landscape mode. People are misunderstanding that this picture comes from a third-party who does not work for Google or Asus, and who simply is building the source and trying to make it work on his own personal tablet. He's not got orientation support working yet; that has nothing to do with ICS on retail products.
How would it make any sense whatsoever for Google to remove landscape-mode support that was present in Honeycomb?
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erm.... ok ...... the ICS version im currently running on my phone doesnt have landscape mode.
id be daft to say they arent going to fix it for tablet release ......
i was just adding my thoughts based on hands-on experience !
Watch it here in action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tAwHCDq-94&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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MrKaon said:
Watch it here in action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tAwHCDq-94&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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interested to know why they have disabled it on phones. seems to fit quite nicely in landscape.
Received this via NVIDIA Facebook Page. Quite impressive
Want to preview a demo of Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich (ICS) running on an Asus Eee Pad Transformer Prime tablet? Check out the video below!
Thanks to Google's great work in making ICS open and accessible to developers, NVIDIA engineers were able to work with Asus to quickly get Ice Cream Sandwich up and running on the Transformer Prime. It took just two days after the source code was made public to get this demo working. http://bit.ly/rDaLbj
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P500 said:
Received this via NVIDIA Facebook Page. Quite impressive
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I'm frankly surprised if Google's own partners apparently aren't getting access to internal builds of Android before the public source code release. (Or are Nvidia perhaps being somewhat disingenuous and just not mentioning they have that access, and hence basically had only minor tweaking to do so as to get the last version of the source working with the Prime?)
P500 said:
Received this via NVIDIA Facebook Page. Quite impressive
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ah come on man, that's the Transformer Prime (TF201?) not the eeepad Transformer (TF101) that we're all talking about here.
unfnknblvbl said:
ah come on man, that's the Transformer Prime (TF201?) not the eeepad Transformer (TF101) that we're all talking about here.
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What difference does that make? It's built on the same source, and for very closely related hardware. You can pretty-much guarantee Asus already has a fork of the same code at much the same stage of development, just with a few drivers swapped out here and there where there are changes from the original Transformer. It wouldn't make any sense for them to have two different development teams working on something so similar.
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Hi All,
is there an easy way of flashing vanilla honeycomb on the transformer? i'm not interested in any cooked roms, just the pure google experience.
I don't like the additional apps and the slight ui changes that acer did, so i wonder if there is any stable vanilla android rom out there to be flashed?
If you mean one built from AOSP, I'm guessing there is none out there because the Source Code for Honeycomb is not released.
Acer?
From what I can tell, the Asus Transformer comes with stock Honeycomb. The only changes are to support the keyboard, and addition of crud like Kindle and some other bundled apps (which can be removed if you have root).
This is also the reason why we get updates so soon after Google release them, as there is not too much to tweak.
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Acer?
From what I can tell, the Asus Transformer comes with stock Honeycomb. The only changes are to support the keyboard, and addition of crud like Kindle and some other bundled apps (which can be removed if you have root).
This is also the reason why we get updates so soon after Google release them, as there is not too much to tweak.
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yes of course i meant asus. well they changed icons like the default home, back and apps icons from bluish tron style to white. This can't be stock honeycomb.
i know this is nitpicking, but i don't understand why they changed the icons, they just don't fit in, especially since asus left all the other ui elements unchanged...
Shahpur.Azizpour said:
yes of course i meant asus. well they changed icons like the default home, back and apps icons from bluish tron style to white. This can't be stock honeycomb.
i know this is nitpicking, but i don't understand why they changed the icons, they just don't fit in, especially since asus left all the other ui elements unchanged...
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Before I flash the Prime roms I always pull the SystemUI.apk out of the /system folder in the rom and exchange all the dock button images for the ones from the default buttons.
Shahpur.Azizpour said:
yes of course i meant asus. well they changed icons like the default home, back and apps icons from bluish tron style to white. This can't be stock honeycomb.
i know this is nitpicking, but i don't understand why they changed the icons, they just don't fit in, especially since asus left all the other ui elements unchanged...
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It's stock honeycomb with some buttons changed. That's it. Bam. As stock as it gets.
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Just root, flash the stock UI and delete the other apps and its stock honeycomb. Ive been running that for a while, mainly its OCD. I didnt like that the UI of the buttons didnt match everything else in android so I swtiched to one extracted from the XOOM. Then deleted all of the myCrap and bought Splashtop HD (prefer having updating versions from market anyway.
I can see why asus changed the buttons. They are more cartoonish than the futurist versions of the stock Honeycomb UI. Nerds like us prefer the TRON theme but joe consumer probably prefers the softer UI (more like the ipad). Im sure its for those people, not us. Im betting they would have gone further if they could but the notification system seems to be pretty locked down, Ive installed phone apps and their notifications immediately become like honeycomb so something in honeycomb is changing their icons/text.
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It's stock honeycomb with some buttons changed. That's it. Bam. As stock as it gets.
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Yeah ill probably get an transformer over the acer iconia tab cause it already has 3.2 in Germany while iconia still is at 3.1...
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ryan stewart said:
Just root, flash the stock UI and delete the other apps and its stock honeycomb. Ive been running that for a while, mainly its OCD. I didnt like that the UI of the buttons didnt match everything else in android so I swtiched to one extracted from the XOOM. Then deleted all of the myCrap and bought Splashtop HD (prefer having updating versions from market anyway.
I can see why asus changed the buttons. They are more cartoonish than the futurist versions of the stock Honeycomb UI. Nerds like us prefer the TRON theme but joe consumer probably prefers the softer UI (more like the ipad). Im sure its for those people, not us. Im betting they would have gone further if they could but the notification system seems to be pretty locked down, Ive installed phone apps and their notifications immediately become like honeycomb so something in honeycomb is changing their icons/text.
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Ok sounds good enough for me. At least I'm not the only one who doesn't like the new icons...so as long as flashing a xoom build is possible that's perfectly fine...
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Hello,
Having researched (i thought extensively) the xoom for a while I just recieved it today. It seems very quick etc however....
The screen is like a mirror? Even indoors all i can see is my own face when looking at the screen? How can there be no mention of this in any review on the internet? (ive looked at official reviews from techradar, pocket lint etc etc and peoples opinions on forums etc).
Im a bit baffled as to why no one would mention this! Do anti glare screen protectors rectify this problem at all, without taking away picture quality? (which i must admit im pretty disappointed with
Thanks
I've never faced this issue. Then again.my brightness is always all the way up
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invisible shield helps, but raising the brightness, even just a little, helps too.
Just try to adjust your xoom brightness from settings - display. Do you have a screen protector ? Which rom are you on?
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No I don't have a screen protector at the minute, I only got the XOOM today.
Im using the stock rom, gingerbread I believe.
The device seems almost unusable during the day, its literally like a mirror. I have turned the brightness up however any timed the screen isnt displaying bright images the reflections are really really bad.
Surely this can't just be a problem with mine?
It also seems quite sluggish. For example, as im writing this message there's a delayed reaction between when I press the key and when it appears on screen. Flicking through we pages also lags and the text looks blurry.
Would these issues improve if I ugdated to ics?
Thanks
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It also seems quite sluggish. For example, as im writing this message there's a delayed reaction between when I press the key and when it appears on screen. Flicking through we pages also lags and the text looks blurry.
Would these issues improve if I ugdated to ics?
Thanks
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yes, dont even fool with honeycomb
im not sure if im guna keep it. does the reflection not bother u?
adamski88 said:
It also seems quite sluggish. For example, as im writing this message there's a delayed reaction between when I press the key and when it appears on screen. Flicking through we pages also lags and the text looks blurry.
Would these issues improve if I ugdated to ics?
Thanks
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Stock honeycomb was fairly laggy. Custom roms and ics have fixed such issues.
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Is there also any way to watch videos full screen without the bar with home button etc along the bottom?
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All these issues are/can be fixed by upgrading to ICS/rooting/custom rom/3rd party launcher/matte screen protector. The Xoom is the best overall tablet out there, but that's because it has the best development.
i just got a xoom the other day i admit it is quite like a mirror but i love the shiny glass, keep brightness high and perhaps use a matte screen protector
one thing i will say is that honeycombe was ugly and slow,
i rooted unlocked and using stable teameos 2.0 rom ics with 1.5ghz oc and interactive governor
all ur issues will be gone, im playing shadowgun and modern combat 3 on my xoom and they run fantastic!!
I really want to love it but its just not happening at the minute. If I put ics on now, would I still b able to return it if I decided to?
To what extent does a matte screen protector work? One of the main reasons I could justify buying a tablet was to put it on the wall in the spare room to watch video on when using the treadmill! I just went in the watched a bit of a movie (must say it plays mkvs so easily even on gingerbread) and in the darker scenes I really could hardly see the picture, could just see myself.
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yes you can reverse the process its easy,
matt just takes out the "shine" of the surface to very minimal (all surfaces will absorb some amount of light, glass takes in alot)
so there you go, unlock it, root it, get ics on teameos 2.0 is a stable release and get it running at 1.5ghz interactive (very stable)
u will notice a big difference
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here use this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1249798
when you get to the step that states download android sdk, dont, just make sure u got java installed then download the adb fastboot zip pack, rather than downloading the android sdk full as that will waste time for no reason
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Is there also any way to watch videos full screen without the bar with home button etc along the bottom?
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Yes, you can. You can hide the status bar and show it whenever you need if you are running a nightlies build from eos team... Which rom are you on?
adamski88 said:
I really want to love it but its just not happening at the minute. If I put ics on now, would I still b able to return it if I decided to?
To what extent does a matte screen protector work? One of the main reasons I could justify buying a tablet was to put it on the wall in the spare room to watch video on when using the treadmill! I just went in the watched a bit of a movie (must say it plays mkvs so easily even on gingerbread) and in the darker scenes I really could hardly see the picture, could just see myself.
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I've been thinking...If you don't love it as it is (with Honeycomb stock, why would you?) and if you don't love tinkering, but just want something pretty ok out of the box, why not just return it? If you like making your device fantastic by rooting and flashing new roms, and so on, you couldn't have found a better tablet. But if you are not that type, you should get something else...
Unlocking it will void your warranty, and you need to unlock to do any mods. But as it has been said, it is all reversible.
Thanks for all the input guys. I do like tinkering, the reason I went for this tablet was because its so versatile.
I have never rooted a device before etc but im quite good with pc`s so I shud be able to do it ok by following the guide. (Thanks for the link)
The screen reflection is the only thing that's putting me off but im going to try a screen protector. Can't seem to find many in the uk, does anyone know where I can get a good one?
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Compare ur xoom with another.. u may got a defected screen
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Yes, you can. You can hide the status bar and show it whenever you need if you are running a nightlies build from eos team... Which rom are you on?
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a nightlies build? :/
omnia1994 said:
Compare ur xoom with another.. u may got a defected screen
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i dont know anyone else with a xoom.
im starting to think this now though... as nobody really is commenting on their screen. Its as if everyone is ignore my question! Like when a dark scene is on i can barely see whats happening, can just see myself and whatevers behind me..
im starting to think it must be faulty as no one else is saying that its this bad?
I had the Prime and exchanged it with Tf700 from Best Buy. Got infinity today from best buy after opening the box found the scratches on the screen and also one minor crack on the screen. This is not the reason i don't like the infinity because i can exchange with another one from best buy bcos they 30 days return policy. But the reason i don't like the infinity is the web browsing is not that fast considering it has quad core 1.6 ghz processor.The wifi i have is very fast works great with other devices. Right now i am typing with the infinity and it is so hard to type it. Typing is not smooth either. It is taking long time to write on this also the cursor to correct typos is not very accurate. The screen is as promised crisp, gaming is also high quality. Camera is good too. But i dont like the browsing and writing lag. Plus once the browser shut down automatically. I have update it to the latest firmware. Looks like the processor is not capable of handling high resolution or maybe something else.
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Install Chrome. It is way better than the stock browser. And I highly recommend getting Swift Key 3 for tablets. Best keyboard hands down.
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Sorry you feel that way! It really is an awesome tablet just give it some time!
Or try dolphin hd browser. Even faster than chrome.
There has been so much negative reaction. You would think the reviews would have been more negative but they were mostly positive. I am hoping that JB update comes sooner rather than later and that it corrects the awful I/O issues, as it was reported. I wonder why of all Android tabs out there with ICS and inferior hardware, this one is so affected. I guess people expected more, which is understandable given it is a $500 to $600 tablet.
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There has been so much negative reaction. You would think the reviews would have been more negative but they were mostly positive. I am hoping that JB update comes sooner rather than later and that it corrects the awful I/O issues, as it was reported. I wonder why of all Android tabs out there with ICS and inferior hardware, this one is so affected. I guess people expected more, which is understandable given it is a $500 to $600 tablet.
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I hope asus bring some kind of update to fix whatever the error is. But frankly speaking I don't like custom Roms I just want stock Roms and wants asus to fix the issue. I have the original galaxy tab and rooted and zipped custom rom but never like the tablet afterwards. Thanks for the reply.
Alitheia said:
Sorry you feel that way! It really is an awesome tablet just give it some time!
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I think I will. Could be possible since the screen is damaged other internal parts got defective too in assembly or shipping.
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Install Chrome. It is way better than the stock browser. And I highly recommend getting Swift Key 3 for tablets. Best keyboard hands down.
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I will try chrome and dolphin just was concerned about privacy issue with dolphin. Are password and Ids are safe with dolphin? Btw thanks for the reply guys
What you are disappointed about are app specific things, not infinity, so not really correct title of the thread.
Also, allow a pad to settle down for few days. Mine is faster and faster. This is normal thing with android.
One weird thing though.
I absolutely love Chrome (desktop) but on my pad somehow stock browser works much faster.
How come?
I was even considering using stock one and delete chrome as the only thing i miss with stock browser is "other devices" tabs.
For example, one thing that i like with stock and can't find in chrome is fit to screen. This forum is always over the edge of screen on chrome, and have to double-tap it to resize, every time. With stock browser, its just perfect.
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I think I will. Could be possible since the screen is damaged other internal parts got defective too in assembly or shipping.
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I think you do well to give it some more time. I love the hard keyboard, but it takes a little while to get accustomed to its feedback. My wife won't type a thing on it because she is used to blind-typing and that doesn't work too well, apparently. I guess the spacing is off and so she has to look at the keyboard while typing. (I do that more or less continuously, but my typing speed isn't even so far off from hers -- at least on a normal desktop keyboard, to give her a fair chance. )
Asus is supposedly working on a new firmware fix to address the I/O issues according to a recent post from Gary (asus rep) from the Prime forum. Hopefully that will resolve the issues.
Please don't forget to send all your issues to Asus support. If they are aware that a lot of users are disappointed, they might speed tacking the issue.
Don't expect a lot of useful feedback though ... I just had some generic mails back saying to reset the Tab / check for updates ...
Gert Stalpaert said:
Please don't forget to send all your issues to Asus support. If they are aware that a lot of users are disappointed, they might speed tacking the issue.
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Done.
MartyHulskemper said:
I think you do well to give it some more time. I love the hard keyboard, but it takes a little while to get accustomed to its feedback. My wife won't type a thing on it because she is used to blind-typing and that doesn't work too well, apparently. I guess the spacing is off and so she has to look at the keyboard while typing. (I do that more or less continuously, but my typing speed isn't even so far off from hers -- at least on a normal desktop keyboard, to give her a fair chance. )
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I do type on other devices which has touch screen but did not find much hassle. I have android tablets. But as other poster said give some time to tablet and i find this correct because as now i am typing with infinity it is easier than before. But every now and then the space comes between alphabets. I used swype while typing so far it is 100% accurate.
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Asus is supposedly working on a new firmware fix to address the I/O issues according to a recent post from Gary (asus rep) from the Prime forum. Hopefully that will resolve the issues.
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Hopefully yes. If the developers here can do it asus should do it easily.
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Or try dolphin hd browser. Even faster than chrome.
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Hi tried both chrome and dolphin both works great. Only negative i see in chrome is lack of flash support. But now the browsing is superb.
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I will try chrome and dolphin just was concerned about privacy issue with dolphin. Are password and Ids are safe with dolphin? Btw thanks for the reply guys
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Don't forget the "Swiftkey Keyboard for Tablets" as well. Soooo much better. I also love the pumpkin orange theme.
Svashtar said:
What you are disappointed about are app specific things, not infinity, so not really correct title of the thread.
Also, allow a pad to settle down for few days. Mine is faster and faster. This is normal thing with android.
One weird thing though.
I absolutely love Chrome (desktop) but on my pad somehow stock browser works much faster.
How come?
I was even considering using stock one and delete chrome as the only thing i miss with stock browser is "other devices" tabs.
For example, one thing that i like with stock and can't find in chrome is fit to screen. This forum is always over the edge of screen on chrome, and have to double-tap it to resize, every time. With stock browser, its just perfect.
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Yes thats true tablet needs some time to settle. As i found it is getting better. Great forum otherwise i have decided to return it for refund.
MedleHed said:
Install Chrome. It is way better than the stock browser. And I highly recommend getting Swift Key 3 for tablets. Best keyboard hands down.
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and sio(!)
and the latest firmware, for what it's worth
perhaps data wipe first if it's as bad as you described
Finally got my registration code for the Chameleon Beta - was so excited to try it out - but it simply crashes as soon as I run it... Tried rebooting, re-installing, etc - no go.
Anyone else able to run it on their TF700?
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Hey!
I've got my chameleon today, too. It didn't crash but it was not responding for some time (pressed Wait) and it went through.
Pretty dissapointed i must say. Can't really consider this a beta release. More like alpha
It is VERY slow. Some parts are clearly not optimized for infinity. Weather widget doesn't scale correctly. Mail only shows unread mail, and as i am considered a mail ninja, i pretty much don't see anything there (i have my inbox cleaned and read). I am not interested in Instagram, Twitter, so other currently available widgets are not of any use for me.
Anyway, I really hope it gets better with further releases, specially for tablets with high resolution.
Currently, in a state as is, can't beat my Apex launcher, or any other for that matter.
Can you post some visuals (screenshot)?
Hey,
I have just tried to snap some screens, but I do not have nerves for this. It is just too slow.
Before I am able to add an account and such, I can run around my house, make a coffe and maybe smoke one...
I don't know, maybe there's something wrong with my current environment, which is kinda bloated right now, but Apex runs buttery smooth, so i don't think so. The funny thing is, transitions from one screen to another, scrolling inside widget (tried only one and weather), app drawer - they are really smooth - but adding a widget - OMG. I can't do it, sorry.
Maybe with next release or if someone else has more luck or patience.
I would *love* to try this, but no matter what I do, it just crashes instantly.
Are you rooted? Unlocked? Just trying to figure out what I can't get it to run at all...
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Rooted, but not unlocked.
To those who have it running but report that it's really slow: have you tried forcing 2D hardware rendering?
I imagine due to the resolution of the TF700 display, anything not coded to use hardware rendering will be impossible to run at any usable speed.
OK, I have tried your suggestion.
It gets a bit better, but when it comes to the keyboard and typing, still too slow.
They said they will update app every week, so i hope we'll get some better builds soon.
Svashtar said:
OK, I have tried your suggestion.
It gets a bit better, but when it comes to the keyboard and typing, still too slow.
They said they will update app every week, so i hope we'll get some better builds soon.
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Just curious - are you on .26 firmware or a previous version? I was reading a review and they said that it quit working after they upgraded to .26 firmware. Just curious what version you were running....
Thanks.
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Yes, the latest one - .26
Pretty sure they'll fix it sooner than later
I have it running. Yes is slow, i use force hw 2d, but is not impossible to play with. Impossible as a daily launcher to, unless you want to feel like your in matrix bullet time...
Lack of widgets is also a shame for a beta, but those that are there work as id hoped!
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If memory serves, they closed their kickstart and reopened it because of someone leaving the company or whatever. Is that kickstart still open? I wouldn't mind kickin some money over to be part of the alph/beta/prerelease, whatever they want to call this mess. I really like the direction they are trying to go with this.
You can still be able to get prelase from their website. It costs 10CAD though. Not sure how much it was when in kickstart phase.
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If memory serves, they closed their kickstart and reopened it because of someone leaving the company or whatever. Is that kickstart still open? I wouldn't mind kickin some money over to be part of the alph/beta/prerelease, whatever they want to call this mess. I really like the direction they are trying to go with this.
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Excellent, will take a look at it, I do appreciate it.
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Excellent, will take a look at it, I do appreciate it.
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Be forewarned - it won't run at all for me with .26 (and I read another reviewer who had the same issues with it on .26). Keep your expectations low!!
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I was a Kickstarter supporter, and I also received my "Golden Ticket" yesterday. Installed it on my Infinity and started playing around with it. First, as everyone states, there are precious few widgets at the moment - News, Weather, Gmail, Twitter (can't remember if there are any others). News has a limited number of sources, none of which I regularly read. Weather is OK, but you can get that in a million different ways at the moment. Gmail shows unread only. I don't use Twitter - I have an account, but no desire.
Performance-wise, it is slow but then this is an early beta. There is just no way this could be used at the moment for your launcher. How you edit the panels you put on the screen is not intuitive - I found myself going back to some of their demo videos to try to figure out how they were doing things. I tried to set up a time-change screen, but the event was never triggered so the screen never changed.
I am happy to see a released version, but I would have been far happier to have waited for something a little more fully-realized. At the moment, there is no published API or anything which might allow me to look at developing a widget of my own (yes, I know it is a beta, but when you are a small company, you might want to get other developers on your side enhancing your product). This may be a month or two away from establishing a base level of functionality that would make it a lower end competitor of other launchers.
I like where this appears to be going, but I wish they would have waited on the release until there is substance. I will check back in on Chameleon in a few weeks, but I am not sure when or even if this might be ready for actual use.
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I would *love* to try this, but no matter what I do, it just crashes instantly.
Are you rooted? Unlocked? Just trying to figure out what I can't get it to run at all...
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The Chameleon team has stated that this is a known bug and what you have to do is simply reboot your tablet, if that does not work then uninstall the app, reboot, re-install and activate and then reboot again.
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I was a Kickstarter supporter, and I also received my "Golden Ticket" yesterday. Installed it on my Infinity and started playing around with it. First, as everyone states, there are precious few widgets at the moment - News, Weather, Gmail, Twitter (can't remember if there are any others). News has a limited number of sources, none of which I regularly read. Weather is OK, but you can get that in a million different ways at the moment. Gmail shows unread only. I don't use Twitter - I have an account, but no desire.
Performance-wise, it is slow but then this is an early beta. There is just no way this could be used at the moment for your launcher. How you edit the panels you put on the screen is not intuitive - I found myself going back to some of their demo videos to try to figure out how they were doing things. I tried to set up a time-change screen, but the event was never triggered so the screen never changed.
I am happy to see a released version, but I would have been far happier to have waited for something a little more fully-realized. At the moment, there is no published API or anything which might allow me to look at developing a widget of my own (yes, I know it is a beta, but when you are a small company, you might want to get other developers on your side enhancing your product). This may be a month or two away from establishing a base level of functionality that would make it a lower end competitor of other launchers.
I like where this appears to be going, but I wish they would have waited on the release until there is substance. I will check back in on Chameleon in a few weeks, but I am not sure when or even if this might be ready for actual use.
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you do know that this is a PRE-Beta and not a Beta. Tekinson states clearly that is a very very very buggy version. There will be a API when its Beta and also this version is a trimmed down version none the less. If you watch the videos you will see that they have more widgets and more options then our build. Basically they want to test their launcher on every device out there.. and what better way then to have the community that wants the launcher test it for them and give them their own feedback.
I think its genius personally.
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The Chameleon team has stated that this is a known bug and what you have to do is simply reboot your tablet, if that does not work then uninstall the app, reboot, re-install and activate and then reboot again.
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you do know that this is a PRE-Beta and not a Beta. Tekinson states clearly that is a very very very buggy version. There will be a API when its Beta and also this version is a trimmed down version none the less. If you watch the videos you will see that they have more widgets and more options then our build. Basically they want to test their launcher on every device out there.. and what better way then to have the community that wants the launcher test it for them and give them their own feedback.
I think its genius personally.
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I agree 1000%. This app has amazing potential and I am sure that once beta, and then the official final release comes out, we will see a big difference. It pisses me off that so many people don't read the info, and have been giving a low star rating in GPlay.
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The Chameleon team has stated that this is a known bug and what you have to do is simply reboot your tablet, if that does not work then uninstall the app, reboot, re-install and activate and then reboot again.
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Hmm, I just tried those things and it still crashes instantly... Do you have a link to where this is discussed - I'd like to read through it myself.
Obviously, it's not a huge deal (not big enough to make me restore to factory defaults and try again), since it's really not ready for "daily" use, but I still would like to at least try it out on my TF700....
Thanks!
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Hmm, I just tried those things and it still crashes instantly... Do you have a link to where this is discussed - I'd like to read through it myself.
Obviously, it's not a huge deal (not big enough to make me restore to factory defaults and try again), since it's really not ready for "daily" use, but I still would like to at least try it out on my TF700....
Thanks!
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I'm on .26 and rooted and unlocked. If you reboot and turn on "Use 2D hardware acceleration in applications" in the developer options, it should work. I was having the same problem until I did this.
well im sure some of you have now seen the Nexus 10.
I'm kinda jealous, but at the same time I reckon the Infinity looks so much nicer. So, I might pass and wait for next year's model.
Anyway, this is not about the Nexus 10 (there is already another thread for that).
This is about Android 4.2's layout; Google has seem to have removed the tablet UI and I'm not sure I like it. It would seem weird to have the navigation buttons in the center, especially if your using it in landscape! I don't see any advantages to why Google are taking this route. You will have essentially a big black bar on the bottom, just for 3 buttons, seems pretty silly to have on 'widescreen' tablet. So now the notification bar at the top now; more screen estate wasting.
I understand what they are try to do with the whole 'unified experience' stuff. But I don't see any other positive to this.
Don't get me wrong tho, I still want the update; and I might like it if I see it in person. Hopefully Asus announces version 11 soon
What do you guys think of the new layout? Love it? Hate it?
I don't really like it. I prefer the current layout much more than the phone UI look. Oh well...
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I think I would prefer the nav buttons in the centre. I often hold the tab in my left hand and navigate with my right hand - it seems counter productive to keep reaching to the left hand corner with my right hand...
That layout will most likely only be on the nexus 10 and not 4.2 for the infinity. Its the same layout as the Nexus 7 jelly bean. Its the phablet layout.
i mean it doesn't look that bad. Having the notifications slide down is nicer then the current pop-up. and also having the toggle switch on the right hand side is nice
take a look at this video... it goes through it a bit:
http://youtu.be/vCN7Y3e6MIU
also, I think it's a 4.2 thing. I believe Google wants to move away from the whole tablet UI. Seems like want to unify all 3 of their devices.
ps. the nexus 10 is one ugly looking mofo.
Is nobody going to say it? Please tell me I'm not the only one capable of seeing this..
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A ridiculous waste of screen space that you really can't afford on a 10" device. There was absolutely no need to separate button and notification bars. I certainly hope ASUS doesn't bring this UI "upgrade" over to the Infinity.
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A ridiculous waste of screen space that you really can't afford on a 10" device. There was absolutely no need to separate button and notification bars. I certainly hope ASUS doesn't bring this UI "upgrade" over to the Infinity.
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Yeah, the Nexus 7 is the same way. Even on a 7 inch device (perhaps even *more* so on a 7 inch device), it just doesn't seem to make much sense to have separate button and notification bars. I much prefer the "all on one bar" approach....
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I like the 4.1 layout, I think it is really well thought out. I like the big time in notification area, so I do not use any time widget, and I like the large status icons too. Entirely the bottom bar is well organized.
I'm not sure about the 4.2 but it looks they made the bottom bar smaller to win space for top bar. The 4.2 layout is probably the big step backwards many people will hate on their tablets.
Are we getting 4.2?
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Is nobody going to say it? Please tell me I'm not the only one capable of seeing this..
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I understand what you are eluding to. But I don't confuse Android widgets with Windows live tiles. Don't really think they are similar to me.
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Google says they want to have a consistent UI between phones and tablets. And I think it's a terrible idea. They are different form factors, used differently and should have different UIs.
I really wish we could stop acting like the average human is too stupid to find the navigation buttons on a tablet just because they are moved to the left instead of the center.
If we figured out how to make fire and create tools, then for the love of God, I have faith we'll figure out how to find the navigation buttons and menu if it's in a different place.
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IGoogle says they want to have a consistent UI between phones and tablets. And I think it's a terrible idea. They are different form factors, used differently and should have different UIs.
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Agree. Does Google now try to match Microsoft's equally bad idea trying to unify mobile and desktop UIs?
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I understand what you are eluding to. But I don't confuse Android widgets with Windows live tiles. Don't really think they are similar to me.
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I did say "See". I'm a designer, my comment was purely visually-based. I haven't had my hands on 4.2 to see if it works the same as w8, have you?
Looks like they're trying to unify 'form', function notwithstanding. That would be unfortunate.
I actually saw someone theme their Tab so that all controls were on the sides of the screen with the middle empty or with widgets. Screen links on one side, apps on the other. They never had to reach for anything. Seemed like a smart layout.
Hopefully the people at Cyanogenmod will be able to give you a choice between the layouts when CM 10 goes 4.2, also don't think this is the smartest move by Google.
I'm just going to do what I did to my Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 7, which is disable the navbar and use LMT Launcher. I really don't mind the status bar on top though.
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They should just provide the option between the 4.1 and 4.2 style UI's.
Then again, that would remove 50% of the reason PA rom is developed.
PA always felt too... Slow for my liking.
CROMI for the win!
stevles said:
They should just provide the option between the 4.1 and 4.2 style UI's.
Then again, that would remove 50% of the reason PA rom is developed.
PA always felt too... Slow for my liking.
CROMI for the win!
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Judging from what I have seen of the 4.2 version of the tf300 (which shouldn't be too different from our Infinities), you'll have the option to switch.
I like it visually, but doubt its practicality. I guess this is another 'wait and see' moment, where we all must decide for ourselves what we feel most comfortable with.
I hope that Asus (or sdbags himself ) will someday implement (semi-)transparent status bars and notification bars.
I'd make our infinities look much better, that's for sure.
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Judging from what I have seen of the 4.2 version of the tf300 (which shouldn't be too different from our Infinities), you'll have the option to switch.
I like it visually, but doubt its practicality. I guess this is another 'wait and see' moment, where we all must decide for ourselves what we feel most comfortable with.
I hope that Asus (or sdbags himself ) will someday implement (semi-)transparent status bars and notification bars.
I'd make our infinities look much better, that's for sure.
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I can confirm that Asus will allow us to switch between 4.1.1 UI and 4.2.1 UI modes but it requires a reboot...
As for transparent system notification bars, yes it can be done But I'm waiting for Asus to release 4.2.1 for the TF700 first although I may attempt a sneaky port of the TF300 Rom as we now have a working TWRP that solves the encrypted bootloader issues
I like the new layout with notifications you can display on the left side of the screen and the quick tile on the right side. I think it would be nice to have an option to customize the virtual key position.