I have the T-Mobile Sensation 4G.
I have been too lazy to do s-off/root and put a custom rom on it, since I found the phone to have pretty decent speed so far. But lately I found my phone to be rather slugghish at times, so I decide to do it.
So I followed the guides here, got s-off and root. The first things I did was to remove all the t-mobile bloatwares, slacker and nova. By the time I've done that, it was late at night and I didn't want to stay up all night to backup/restore everything, so I just stopped there and planned to continue the next day.
I have been busy and never really got the time to sit down backing up everything and put a new rom on it. But to my surprise, I found my phone to be much more responsive now. It has been a week now, and I must say I'm very happy about it. All I did was removing the t-mobile bloatwares. Honestly I didn't expect anything from doing that other than free-ing up some insignificant storage space. Can't help but wonder what were the t-mobloat doing to this phone?
For me, they were doing really fun things like autostarting themselves after I killed them with a task manager, hogging up to 50% of my ram without any way to stop them (before i rooted/flashed cm7), bugging me about tmo stuff, trying to get me to pay to watch internet tv, starting world war 3, launching nuclear weapons, acting as a beacon for alien invaders, and last but not least, opening a portal to Cthulhu.
The_Green_Android_Robot said:
For me, they were doing really fun things like autostarting themselves after I killed them with a task manager, hogging up to 50% of my ram without any way to stop them (before i rooted/flashed cm7), bugging me about tmo stuff, trying to get me to pay to watch internet tv, starting world war 3, launching nuclear weapons, acting as a beacon for alien invaders, and last but not least, opening a portal to Cthulhu.
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Taking up RAM is fine, as long as you have positive amount of free memory and the apps are not taking up processor resources. Free memory = unused resources. There is no point of having more memory if you have several hundreds of free memory lying around all the time. What is important is that the OS will efficiently kill processes and release occupied memory when an active app requires them, and Android is doing a pretty good job on that.
What I want to know is, beside taking up memory, what are these t-mobloats actually doing to take up processor resources?
They are running things in the background because they are badly coded, they are downloading updates for themselves (without telling you), they are using background data, and opening a portal to Cthulhu does need a lot of CPU time.
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Well I'm writing this because of the complaints of lagginess and/or crap from AT&T.
While I'm not a dev genius, I do know my way around iPhone OS and WM and Android is coming pretty naturally to me. IF YOU JUST READ THREE THREADS YOU CAN HAVE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PHONE. There. I said it.
Seriously, if you are complaining about it being laggy, its because the ATT crapware likes to turn on for no reason in the background. REMOVE it!
Install Titanium Backup, allow it to update and then go to manage and uninstall ONLY ATT APPS. don't get rid of google apps or **** goes crazy
If you're complaining about not being able to install LauncherPro or easytheter, learn how to sideload! Seriously, you can use adb and droid explorer if you'd like (really simple) or you can edit ONE LINE in your database and get it directly on your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=728121
If you're wondering how to do all this, just ROOT. It takes 30 seconds, it's longer to reboot the phone than to root it. Just get the update, it does absolutely nothing to your phone, just installs superuser.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=725555
I'm just getting pissed because this is supposed to be a poweruser site and lots people here are just bickering about things when they could simply fix them.
I know my account doesn't have many posts, but I've been around (Didn't feel like keeping TyTNic_Dev was fitting considering I haven't had the TyTN for about 4 years now) And while I'll try and contribute what I can, IMO this subforum would be alot cleaner if everyone stopped complaining and kept everything relevent.
Talking about how you "hate the phone, its so laggy need to go back to iPhone" or just "don't understand what all the fuss about Android is" just GTFO, or leach off everyones contributions. It really drags the thread down when people have all that hate and negativity. Especially when a few tweaks and the phone runs like a dream.
I've rooted, enabled sideload, and removed bloatware, as soon as I get all the kinks in my flash plugin, I'll have a phone that is as powerful (or even better) than anything else currently on the market. I suggest you do the same, then you'll probably be singing its praises as well.
ok..phew..
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so yeah, root and fix the phone. you'll be glad you did
Good post. Just to help people maybe throw some links where u say to do each mod.
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Seriously, if you are complaining about it being laggy, its because the ATT crapware likes to turn on for no reason in the background. REMOVE it!
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I dont think this is true. I've never once seen it just start itself up.
But yes, rooting is easy, but there's not a whole bunch of reason to do it quite yet.
Edit- there's also not much reason to NOT do it either.
I agree with you 100%. Like yoursef, im not one to have tons of replies, but ive been following XDA since my Tilt (not tilt 2). I think the issue is that we have a lot of new followers (welcome!) coming over from the Iphone and they are not use to what this board is all about.These arent apps you just install, this is software development/enhancements all in one place. Hopefully when the WIKI is back up (or created rather), there can be a nice "how to" section for everyone to reference.
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I dont think this is true. I've never once seen it just start itself up.
But yes, rooting is easy, but there's not a whole bunch of reason to do it quite yet.
Edit- there's also not much reason to NOT do it either.
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I just restarted my phone, and there was a huge list of apps that were running right off of startup. A lot were at&t (naviagtor, ect.) and some were not.
EDIT- I know a lot of people are talking abut the lag due to the samsung UI, but I really dont care about the live wallpapers and I have a regular background so I dont get any lag at all. I am excited about the 2.2 update to gain the speed and access to the other 256mb or RAM. That alone will make this device a great phone. I am really enjoying android verses my WiMo devices (tilt 2 was the latest).
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I just restarted my phone, and there was a huge list of apps that were running right off of startup. A lot were at&t (naviagtor, ect.) and some were not.
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If that's true then this is a good reason to do so but I haven't seen that happen I guess.
After I instaled task manager I noticed most att apps would start on there own. I was always looking at what was running to try and save my batt.
Ive never hit the att apps at all since I had phone. After rooting and removing att crap nothing tuns in background execpt what I open.
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When you root do you have to manually update to froyo or does it give you the option?
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When you root do you have to manually update to froyo or does it give you the option?
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I'm wondering the same thing...
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I dont think this is true. I've never once seen it just start itself up.
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happens to me all the time. random AT&T crap will start on its own
Thanks guys, yeah whenever you start ANY navigator app, att navi will start (its triggered by the gps starting) when you start any music player att music starts (it is triggered by com.google.music(sic))
these little things can be avoided and lets be honest, the stock touchwiz music player is really good. I have copilot so no reason to pay att. Navigation is a top notch free gps too.
the only one I could see is maybe you like mobitv, that is actually pretty decent of an app, but things like allsport, where, ypmobile, all of these can be accomplished using the browser.
I'll edit the post to include the links, but I just feel like when I'd be working on code or something, if someone was whining it wouldn't motivate me.. Why would I wanna program the Captivate (apart form sheer love) for people who'd just complain you know?
I'm messing around with the sdk and what not and I just got me a second Captivate so i'll be doing all sorts of tests to see what it'll take to get stock froyo on it, but i'm still a novice so i'll keep updating everyone and hopefully we can get 2.2 as a community
@V DidDy 210 I like your attitude. I hope more devs like you come around to the captivate scene as I would and the community as well would greatly appreciate it. I know I will. I will try my best to contribute and help with any interesting development on this device.
I have rooted and removed the AT&T and many of the Samsung apps, but that didn't really change anything. If it were just those then owners of the International versions of the Galaxy S wouldn't be having the same issues. I think the problem is much more than AT&T bloatware.
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happens to me all the time. random AT&T crap will start on its own
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Being a running process and actually consuming resources are two different things and I'm not seeing anything worth making a big deal about since they are just sitting in memory.
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I have rooted and removed the AT&T and many of the Samsung apps, but that didn't really change anything. If it were just those then owners of the International versions of the Galaxy S wouldn't be having the same issues. I think the problem is much more than AT&T bloatware.
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What is your problem? Is it laggy? I haven't noticed any lag on mine, I've removed the bloat (all of it) rooted (obviously) added sideloading, installed flash 10 and check all the dbs for any scripts that might still be activating unnecessary scripts.
I haven't found any, and unless I actively run something (widgets or apps) nothing is running on its own. Only the most rudimentary of services run in the background (unless I tell something to) and my phone is 99% lag free. It is laggy at startup while it is parsing through my media files and it is laggy when I have a bunch of apps open (I'm talking around 16-17) otherwise in day to day operation (browsing, phone calls, music listening, watching movies while on the treadmill, etc.) I have no problems.
I'll try and help you, just need more info on whats going on
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Being a running process and actually consuming resources are two different things and I'm not seeing anything worth making a big deal about since they are just sitting in memory.
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This is true, but while they are running there they still consume even the smallest amounts of usable memory...unless you like the ATT apps there isn't any real reason to keep them. Even if it uses 1kb of ram...its still 1kb of ram wasted
Excellent post but more importantly.... it seems to be a very necessary post. I loved the site when I had my Hermes, Kaiser, Touch, and other HTC devices ~2006 - 2008 but now that I came back with my Android device, it definitely seems like the tone has changed.
My question its are we all having the same problem? I experience lag, unresponsive touch due to lag also a black screen that hangs when you open a app. If so, I'm rooting right now. Please some one confirm. BTW this its a universal problem with all Samsung galaxy s phone. So I'm inclined to think its the firmware not the att bloatware.
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What is your problem? Is it laggy? I haven't noticed any lag on mine, I've removed the bloat (all of it) rooted (obviously) added sideloading, installed flash 10 and check all the dbs for any scripts that might still be activating unnecessary scripts.
I haven't found any, and unless I actively run something (widgets or apps) nothing is running on its own. Only the most rudimentary of services run in the background (unless I tell something to) and my phone is 99% lag free. It is laggy at startup while it is parsing through my media files and it is laggy when I have a bunch of apps open (I'm talking around 16-17) otherwise in day to day operation (browsing, phone calls, music listening, watching movies while on the treadmill, etc.) I have no problems.
I'll try and help you, just need more info on whats going on
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Is flash 10 working? Does video play in the browser? Can you point me ibm the right direction?
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Is flash 10 working? Does video play in the browser? Can you point me ibm the right direction?
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LOL. I thought you were serious for a moment.
im really upset about the lack of ram on this device, i have a ffew apps and i only have 100 mb of ram left, and i have task killer, memory manger, but folks.... i dont think we all are realizing that this phone is handicapped because......ram i sso damb important... this smartphone would be up their with thor, if they just gave it the power or ram for which it deserves... damb, do i exchange for sensation...... hmm,
how important is ram everyone...... do we need 1 gb in order to be future proof or are there ways of getting around the 512 thats in the phone, for our future needs
You complain too much about this device on the forum. Get a different phone then and stop *****in'. Your not contributing anything to this forum with all the negativity
U don't need tons of ram unless your trying to download all the apps in the android market. Even tho apps dont really store to ur ram per se
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When you download apps in the market, they are not stored in RAM. They are stored in your /data partition which is like 1.6GB.
RAM only holds what is running at that time. Keep in mind, if nothing else needs RAM, android system will NOT reclaim it. Empty RAM is wasted RAM.
I have noticed one problem that I think might be related to limited RAM. Several times I have seen the phone come to a virtual halt (in fact, the first couple of times I thought it had altogether frozen, but it was just running maybe 100x more slowly than normal -- the spinning busy circle would advance one tick every 30-60 seconds, for example).
Every time this happened it was when I was using Firefox and had opened 8+ tabs. Eventually after a few minutes if I let it run instead of pulling the battery, things would clear up and the phone went back to normal performance. I limit myself to about six tabs now and I haven't had the problem again.
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im really upset about the lack of ram on this device, i have a ffew apps and i only have 100 mb of ram left, and i have task killer, memory manger, but folks.... i dont think we all are realizing that this phone is handicapped because......ram i sso damb important... this smartphone would be up their with thor, if they just gave it the power or ram for which it deserves... damb, do i exchange for sensation...... hmm,
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..that makes me laugh
Ohmmeter OK....I love this smartphone...thanks guys for your input...and to the Guy above ..get a life man its just a question I asked damn you get soon mean and pushy like you own this website....hush now!!!!
Luthien1 said:
Ohmmeter OK....I love this smartphone...thanks guys for your input...and to the Guy above ..get a life man its just a question I asked damn you get soon mean and pushy like you own this website....hush now!!!!
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Easy man, the person you are referring to has been making Android devices more enjoyable for years now. No need to get mad at him
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Easy man, the person you are referring to has been making Android devices more enjoyable for years now. No need to get mad at him
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Plus, OP's comment really does illustrate his ignorance, which is pretty funny.
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I have noticed one problem that I think might be related to limited RAM. Several times I have seen the phone come to a virtual halt (in fact, the first couple of times I thought it had altogether frozen, but it was just running maybe 100x more slowly than normal -- the spinning busy circle would advance one tick every 30-60 seconds, for example).
Every time this happened it was when I was using Firefox and had opened 8+ tabs. Eventually after a few minutes if I let it run instead of pulling the battery, things would clear up and the phone went back to normal performance. I limit myself to about six tabs now and I haven't had the problem again.
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This may be because of Dalvik VM Heap Size? I'm not 100% sure, but I believe it dictates the maximum allowable RAM usage for any single app. Default value is 40MB. Maybe 8 tabs is the point where Firefox is using that whole 40MB? You can change this value, and I believe it's in the build.prop? Run a backup, bump the value up to say... 64MB and see what happens?
I've used up to about 6 tabs in the stock browser and haven't had any issues like the one you describe. Frankly, I don't think it's caused by the phone having 512MB RAM.
512MB Doesn't handicap this device...it's the new standard and APPs will be built with that in mind. Having more RAM would just allow Android to hold more inactive applications in memory and so speed up the launch of those APPs by a negligible amount. You'll be well on to your next device before you need more RAM.
I'm running the stock OS on my sidekick and am running out of memory on the internal SD card. It can't run the updates. I have only a handful of apps downloaded. T-mobile won't let me delete a whole host of stupid apps I never use. I went through and moved everything to the external SD card that would move (very few apps are willing to move, grrrrr). I even deleted the updates to all the stupid apps that can't be moved on the assumption that they always get larger over time (is this a correct assumption?) and turned off the auto en masse updating.
Anyway, I'm out of ideas. I guess this is a rant because I don't have much hope. It annoys me no end that the idea of android and having control of the device gets destroyed by the carriers.
Still loving the keyboard. I'd marry it if it was legal to.
[I just want a phone that does a few things reliably and I don't want to spend the hours I did with my last android rooting and re-rooting it, I added it up and it was 16 hours, at least, at 125 an hour for my personal time it was the single most expensive thing I've ever owned.]
Rooting this phone will fix your problem and will take a novice 20min and a pro 3-5min, choice is yours though
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As demkantor said, rooting the SK4G is not very tough even for newcomers. Pretty straightforward and once you finish the process you can use those shiny new root permissions to delete things like the app-pack, qik-vidchat, and all that other bologna. Check the dev section and it's all there.
I agree, just root and install a lightweight ROM. It's not that difficult or time-consuming. Then you can tailor the phone to your liking. Or you can try Googling "android remove bloatware without root." Quite a few how-tos will come up, although I can't vouch for any of them.
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rareasasparagus said:
I'm running the stock OS on my sidekick and am running out of memory on the internal SD card. It can't run the updates. I have only a handful of apps downloaded. T-mobile won't let me delete a whole host of stupid apps I never use. I went through and moved everything to the external SD card that would move (very few apps are willing to move, grrrrr). I even deleted the updates to all the stupid apps that can't be moved on the assumption that they always get larger over time (is this a correct assumption?) and turned off the auto en masse updating.
Anyway, I'm out of ideas. I guess this is a rant because I don't have much hope. It annoys me no end that the idea of android and having control of the device gets destroyed by the carriers.
Still loving the keyboard. I'd marry it if it was legal to.
[I just want a phone that does a few things reliably and I don't want to spend the hours I did with my last android rooting and re-rooting it, I added it up and it was 16 hours, at least, at 125 an hour for my personal time it was the single most expensive thing I've ever owned.]
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For the easy then, SuperOneClick works for root. it's super and one click for the sk4g. "Titanium backup" can then delete everything that has a neon pink icon (TMO bundled crap, there is lots) Most of the "neon pink" is safe to remove, please someone correct me if something doesn't fit the large generalization.
Should be less than an hour.
For your problem root the phone then update superuser an download /system/app an you can delte the useless apps from tmobile or stuff you don't use
Or you can install a rom which would fix a lot of problems
P.s. also after root download clean master an run it every few days go through an delete the bs stuff you don't use folders that were not deleted
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All right, I'm rooted, have safestrap, xposed, wanam and I'm rocking with Beans town. AKA beanstown106 ROM. Even still I have a ton of bloat and presently I'm at 9hrs of battery usage, 1 hour and 10 min of screen time and I have 29 minutes of voice calls! OK, ok guess where my battery is at???
84%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Say what? My app count with Titanium is 109 (yes I'm an app junkie) and I have over 3,000 contacts with pages and pages of notes on each, YET, I'm at 84%.
Somebody help me, Why am I searching for more? I mean this in just an addicted flasher question. This S5 is really the bomb. I had a S4 but after a bad golf round, and other stuff and I took a hammer to it on the glass face until it looked like toast and then (I cant' believe I'm telling ya'll this I bent it in half) yep...crap that would have made a great video to post, maybe even viral. On craigslist I found a local Verizon employee who had a "new S5" and I mean right out of the box for $375 (no upgrade as I'm unlimited data etc and use about 15gb per month) and I have this kind new phone now. I really thought I would never upgrade to the S5 from the S4 because they seemed virtually the same but I was wrong. I'm really liking the S5, ESPECIALLY now that we have Root and Recovery. I'm just hoping that I do not have another bad round of golf, and that has me worried! :crying::crying::crying:
So the reason for this post is to ask, what's the big deal with getting all the bloat off of the device. I know I searched and searched and flashed every new Rom that's on the development site so far as of today, (I use the Safestrap stock slot without worry as I have Odin and a lot of resources to recover and major backups) but I'm back to Beans and I'm happy. This was the first Rom to get the S5 working on the table, and it's not de-bloated much at all, but dang, look at my battery life. Excellent...and I can still use Allshare, baby crying detector, Verizon tones and about 400 other apps available (that I know I'll never use) and on and on. So what I say or ask is why I need to keep searching for the most streamlined ROM????. I'm at 84% after 9 hours!
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Disclaimer in fine print...Please take no offense to this post, I know I need flash rehab but it's a general question that do not have an answer for?
Therapy anyone?
tiger505 said:
All right, I'm rooted, have safestrap, xposed, wanam and I'm rocking with Beans town. AKA beanstown106 ROM. Even still I have a ton of bloat and presently I'm at 9hrs of battery usage, 1 hour and 10 min of screen time and I have 29 minutes of voice calls! OK, ok guess where my battery is at???
84%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Say what? My app count with Titanium is 109 (yes I'm an app junkie) and I have over 3,000 contacts with pages and pages of notes on each, YET, I'm at 84%.
Somebody help me, Why am I searching for more? I mean this in just an addicted flasher question. This S5 is really the bomb. I had a S4 but after a bad golf round, and other stuff and I took a hammer to it on the glass face until it looked like toast and then (I cant' believe I'm telling ya'll this I bent it in half) yep...crap that would have made a great video to post, maybe even viral. On craigslist I found a local Verizon employee who had a "new S5" and I mean right out of the box for $375 (no upgrade as I'm unlimited data etc and use about 15gb per month) and I have this kind new phone now. I really thought I would never upgrade to the S5 from the S4 because they seemed virtually the same but I was wrong. I'm really liking the S5, ESPECIALLY now that we have Root and Recovery. I'm just hoping that I do not have another bad round of golf, and that has me worried! :crying::crying::crying:
So the reason for this post is to ask, what's the big deal with getting all the bloat off of the device. I know I searched and searched and flashed every new Rom that's on the development site so far as of today, (I use the Safestrap stock slot without worry as I have Odin and a lot of resources to recover and major backups) but I'm back to Beans and I'm happy. This was the first Rom to get the S5 working on the table, and it's not de-bloated much at all, but dang, look at my battery life. Excellent...and I can still use Allshare, baby crying detector, Verizon tones and about 400 other apps available (that I know I'll never use) and on and on. So what I say or ask is why I need to keep searching for the most streamlined ROM????. I'm at 84% after 9 hours!
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Disclaimer in fine print...Please take no offense to this post, I know I need flash rehab but it's a general question that do not have an answer for?
Therapy anyone?
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nice rant lol. thing is, not everyone is an app junkie lol. and where you really test the battery life is with screen on time as that uses the most battery..
So my answer is that everyone has different tastes..
My question to you is this: When you press the recents button and then task manager, what does your RAM usage look like?
With all those apps i imagine you have less than 1gb free for sure. System ram allows the phone to work faster the more ram you have available.
Also, the leaner the rom the more storage space you have for apps youll actually use.
I for one would rather install useful apps from the play store vs having baby detector and bloat apps ill never use..
To each their own
Rant over lol
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elliwigy said:
nice rant lol. thing is, not everyone is an app junkie lol. and where you really test the battery life is with screen on time as that uses the most battery..
So my answer is that everyone has different tastes..
My question to you is this: When you press the recents button and then task manager, what does your RAM usage look like?
With all those apps i imagine you have less than 1gb free for sure. System ram allows the phone to work faster the more ram you have available.
Also, the leaner the rom the more storage space you have for apps youll actually use.
I for one would rather install useful apps from the play store vs having baby detector and bloat apps ill never use..
To each their own
Rant over lol
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Point well put..., and thanks for the response. I'm still in WTF mode and just ranting. However with Titanium my Rom says 3.14 GB (816 MG free) on System Rom. I know it's been much lower free with room than that in the years past but yet I've never had a memory issue. So I'm with you " to each their own"
Warning, I've had a few shots today (ok many shots) so from a personal matter I am on a rant...this just seem like the best forum for social contact for my passion...Phones (probably owned about 40+ over the past 17 years, and no I usually do not take a hammer to them, LOL)
PS...I never had children but the "baby detector" app may be the coolest app in the world! Who knew.
Oh and one more thing for all...THIS IS JUST A PHONE, but I'm still not convinced of that as maybe it's the whole part of my life, dang. :cyclops:
Therapy anyone?
I have been using a STOCK pixel (purchased from verizon), running the latest os release, set up device as new and have downloaded a few dumb apps from the app store (basic ones like instagram and twitter, candy crush etc), have been MAINLY using 'cookie jam' which is a pretty basic candy crush style app, and within the minute of me starting to play it the frames load s l o w, like i am over loading my gpu! I have to close the app and start it again then the same behavior reappears, nothing is running in the background (user accessible, since I have NOT tinkered with this device at all). I am using about 20 per cent of my total storage so, really have no idea what the deal is, specially since this app is pretty, well, dumb (but I love it!). I experience this behavior (since I have had the phone in my possession) mainly on cookie jam and a little in candy crush but again, I do N O T play any other games (for now).....
Please advise
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p.s. I have deleted then re installed the app to no avail, I am thinking this app is not 'optimized' for this version of android but, since its requirements are so low I am thinking I might have to do something else.....
Enough with the nonsense of this $800 device that does not perform up to industry standards out of the box. Unable to tinker with this since it is my daily driver. RETURN! ((or I could wait months (since I am FULL time employed and run a household full of kids)until I am able to finish up code to make this POS excel at basic functionality, hhhhmmmmmmmm, NOPE)). Return, return, returned!
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Enough with the nonsense of this $800 device that does not perform up to industry standards out of the box. Unable to tinker with this since it is my daily driver. RETURN! ((or I could wait months (since I am FULL time employed and run a household full of kids)until I am able to finish up code to make this POS excel at basic functionality, hhhhmmmmmmmm, NOPE)). Return, return, returned!
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LOL nothing wrong with the device or GPU, I play crap load of games and its flawless. It was either your device or the apps you are using. This is easily the best performing Android phone ever.
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milan187 said:
LOL nothing wrong with the device or GPU, I play crap load of games and its flawless. It was either your device or the apps you are using. This is easily the best performing Android phone ever.
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a few months later but still worth me saying that yeah, I dont think there was anything wrong with the hardware, mainly the only game that I have time to play is so low level that would not play properly on this device.... I was going to let it go until it got optimized but I couldnt bear the mono audio from the dinky speaker so yeah, patience-less I
ended up returning......
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For the hell of it, I installed the "game" not sure what your problem is with it, runs fine and fast here