http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/17/google-galaxy-nexus-hspa-first-impressions-video/
"Using the camera exposed a major flaw in Ice Cream Sandwich, namely the lack of USB mass storage support"
Jesus. I sthotught it was pretty bad when Honeycomb didnt have this feature working on Macs. I thought to myself, "why would Google release a product that's clearly a prototype?" I then thought it was odd that they didn't fix the problem in 3.1 0r 3.2. seemd like a no brainer, like they had just rushed the original version. yet now they're even removing it from their flagship PHONE? a device meant to be used for its utility, meant to compete with the iPhone by having the basic features the iPhone doesn't have? and this is AFTER the phone doesn't have an sd card slot, either. you'd think they'd be smarter than this, with all the stability and security problems Android's been having due to the bloatware and related fragmentation. it's only real advantage over the iPhone is that it can do more, yet Google seems to be doing everything they can to slowly chip away at those functions.
Galaxy Nexus, setting the standard for Android.
5MP Camera
Aging GPU
No MicroSD
No USB Mass Storage
LoL. I still don't know why people are flabbergast over this devices, but to each his own I guess.
I just wanted a SGSII with a 1280x720 display. But since that's not coming stateside, I'm enjoying my SGSII
Odd how they didn't just turn the SGSII LTE HD into the Galaxy Nexus with a few tweaks. Instead, they downgraded the flagship Samsung phone and just threw ICS on it.
i totally agree with you there
it would have made much more logical to use SGS2 HD as a Galaxy Nexus than the low en phone they have released
ICS on SGS2 will easily blow the Nexus G away
Nexus S was the same (internal storage, video record quality, etc. )
Why are people surprised by this.
This is a prototype/reference handset and the only real benefit to it is the early access to new OS updates and apparently a penta-band HSPA+ radio.
Other than that, you're better off just waiting for an OEM to release an ICS device.
The only funny thing is that Google left the Android UI in such deplorable state so long that OEMs are so used to skinning it. They will even skin ICS with Sense and TouchWiz.
I must admit.I was a bit hopeful.for this device. With Google Music and Video Store live, the lack of an SD slot is a really big issue, IMO.
Also, the lack if a Search button is a Showstopper for me. Maybe an OEM will put it back in. I do like the interface cues they took from Apple and Microsoft, though. The UI looks like actual graphics instead of ASCII art now.
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I have no idea if i even want this device , i never had any nexus device . It don't have a /SDCARD slot inside it and no USB storage , what the hell doe's that mean you can't plug it into the PC ?
Guys I just don't believe that it lacks USB mass storage support based on one sentence in one Engadget review. Maybe the guy didn't have his Windows drivers installed or missed a setting somewhere, who knows.
They released the source earlier this week and we haven't heard a peep about this. Surely someone woulda noticed this by now if it were removed?
Anyway.. maybe it is true but I'm not gonna jump to conclusions just yet...
Revolution said:
I have no idea if i even want this device , i never had any nexus device . It don't have a /SDCARD slot inside it and no USB storage , what the hell doe's that mean you can't plug it into the PC ?
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Well,maybe there will be gTunes(You know,something like Google's iTunes?).I dunno.It's complete bull****.I can do with a better UI,but I also liked the previous one.If they're going to deprive us of basic stuff,it'll be more like a downgrade.
Well,maybe we just have to enable USB debugging though...
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Well,maybe there will be gTunes(You know,something like Google's iTunes?).I dunno.It's complete bull****.I can do with a better UI,but I also liked the previous one.If they're going to deprive us of basic stuff,it'll be more like a downgrade.
Well,maybe we just have to enable USB debugging though...
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it was launched live yesterday night
it's called Google Music
and yes there is also an App not by Google, called gTunes.
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Also, the lack if a Search button is a Showstopper for me.
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this. I'm pretty surprised by it, give that it's a GOOGLE made phone. the search button and its integration into apps is (was?) one of the best features onf Android, made navigating and finding files, contacts, anything you could think of so smooth and thoughtless, with one tap or press, always in the same spot without needing to distract yourself from anything else. now, google seems to be actually TRYING to kill it by relegating it to submenus.
look at Honeycomb: the "task" bar has so much potential, as a persistent bar that can be modified, upgraded, and given a myriad of quick functions due to being a screen based, persistent ~10 inch long area that could be able to launch a million functions. yet Google gives us only back, home, and app switcher. no search icon. even in apps that use the hardware search function on phones, a search button won't appear when you use them, yet menu will if they've been programmed to use the hardware menu key.
*shakes head* I thought Android was set to become THE dominant OS in the mobile sphere, but if Google keeps downgrading their product's most useful and unique functions while the iPhone copies the good ones, at the rate we're going, the iPhone may end up an overall better system by the end of 2012.
i use the search button almost every couple of minutes
makes it easy to find what i want, and read the websites i want in a blink of an eye
without it; i'll have to go the long arse way to find the app i want to run, then execute the app, then enter the website i want...
I don't know what studies they did. Microsoft destroyed the WP contextual search button and now I barely use that phone. Replacing search with app switcher when there's more than enough Tom to fit it there?
Idiotic.
Unless an OEM mods it back in, this won't be usable to me. Its not something I cab just get used to. It completely destroys the way I use my devices.
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How do you copy music/pictures then?
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How do you copy music/pictures then?
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MTP quite likely. I hate that ****. It makes navigation, copying, pasting renaming etc annoying and slow compared to standard windows explorer.
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Yep, Android is MTP from now on. This switch already actually happened with the first version of Honeycomb. Supposedly a benefit is that the SD card doesn't have to be unmounted and remounted when transferring files. If you search online you can find some quotes from Google dev's on the topic of MTP.
I don't have a Galaxy Nexus to test, but I do have a Galaxy S II which defaults to MTP instead of mass storage USB. This is fine as it means it works perfectly with existing media managers, which is what I expect most consumers want.
That said, you can enable Mass Storage by checking USB Debugging in the Development section of settings. I suspect it's the same in the Galaxy Nexus.
TL;DR This report is unlikely to be true.
The Google Search Widget is integrated on every homescreen in ICS.
Funny, that's one of the things fandroids tend to bring up when discussing androids advantage over other OSes... And it was one of few valid points they had.
I suppose its a good thing then that Android has many OEMs that will probably provide the feature.
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You may have seen my whining posts about the things that soured my captivate experience, and a big one was for some absurd reason (probably to eat up more data minutes) they made it show ****ty looking videos in the youtube player unless you navigate through a bunch of menus to make them HQ. See that way, you use more data.
Anyway, at least one thing is better because I put a youtube player from the Evo on there and it is a little bit better. Still not perfect because the stupid thing still shows low quality at first, but at least in this youtube there is a single HQ button on the player by the fast forward one touch and you've got HQ.
So I'll take that tiny victory, however shallow, over AT&T and Samsungs herculean efforts to f- up the nice chips, speaker, and screen on this device. Note I didn't say hardware because I'm not a fan of the case overall.
the player defaults to lower quality if youre not connected to wifi so you use less data and it loads quicker. this would be useful to people who have the 200 mb data plan. IIRC it was the same when i had an iphone 3g a couple years ago.
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You may have seen my whining posts about the things that soured my captivate experience, and a big one was for some absurd reason (probably to eat up more data minutes) they made it show ****ty looking videos in the youtube player unless you navigate through a bunch of menus to make them HQ. See that way, you use more data.
Anyway, at least one thing is better because I put a youtube player from the Evo on there and it is a little bit better. Still not perfect because the stupid thing still shows low quality at first, but at least in this youtube there is a single HQ button on the player by the fast forward one touch and you've got HQ.
So I'll take that tiny victory, however shallow, over AT&T and Samsungs herculean efforts to **** up this nice device.
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"a bunch of menus"? You tap the menu button, hit more, then HQ. It takes less than a second. I usually have it hit before the low-quality version is even buffered. Three taps is more than one, but it's not like they were asking you to do analytic geometry. Maybe I don't care because my fingers are fast, or because I have a grandfathered unlimited data plan.
As for their herculean efforts, if you don't use the AT&T/Samsung stuff, you don't notice any of it once you've rooted and enabled sideloading. At least I don't.
Mine defaults to high quality. Whenever I hit menu -> more the option in there always says "watch in low quality". I've checked several times because I was thinking the video looked pretty bad, but then I realized it was already in high quality mode.
My old HTC phone used to pick the quality based on available bandwidth. This type of functionality doesn't seem like it should be beyond google and samsung with their latest and greatest phone lol. Google owns youtube for god's sake.
this sounds like a troll post...
Didn't realize there were wars between android phones
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"a bunch of menus"? You tap the menu button, hit more, then HQ. It takes less than a second. I usually have it hit before the low-quality version is even buffered. Three taps is more than one, but it's not like they were asking you to do analytic geometry. Maybe I don't care because my fingers are fast, or because I have a grandfathered unlimited data plan.
As for their herculean efforts, if you don't use the AT&T/Samsung stuff, you don't notice any of it once you've rooted and enabled sideloading. At least I don't.
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What does sideloading do and how do I enable it. I too have an unlimited plan so I just want the best performance. I'm new to Android phones. I use to be a Nokia fan but got tired of waiting for the N8 or something nice from Nokia.
Not to Hi-jack this post but I'm open to any suggestions to make my Captivate a better user experience. So far I'm loving it !!
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What does sideloading do and how do I enable it. I too have an unlimited plan so I just want the best performance. I'm new to Android phones. I use to be a Nokia fan but got tired of waiting for the N8 or something nice from Nokia.
Not to Hi-jack this post but I'm open to any suggestions to make my Captivate a better user experience. So far I'm loving it !!
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There are, very nearly literally, a million threads on sideloading here. It means the ability to load apps not found in the Market--a feature AT&T disabled by default, without the ability to switch it in settings. Search for it, and you'll find how to enable it. Once it's enabled, you have the only real handicap AT&T put on the phone out of the way.
A few seconds
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That's enough time to ruin the video experience.
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As for their herculean efforts, if you don't use the AT&T/Samsung stuff, you don't notice any of it once you've rooted and enabled sideloading. At least I don't.
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I still notice the dialer. Isn't that still Samsung? It sucks compared to the Aria dialer.
You'd need to have actually used a sense device for a while to know what I mean, it's all about the cool predictive algorithm htc used, whereas the dialer on the captivate is no better than on my old Tilt (although a little faster, thank goodness, and I do appreciate the huge buttons)
Don't get me wrong, there are 5 good things about the captivate: The screen, the screen, the screen, the screen, and the speaker. And those 5 are enough to keep me interested.
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There are, very nearly literally, a million threads on sideloading here. It means the ability to load apps not found in the Market--a feature AT&T disabled by default, without the ability to switch it in settings. Search for it, and you'll find how to enable it. Once it's enabled, you have the only real handicap AT&T put on the phone out of the way.
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I can't find these threads regarding sideloading. Can anyone provide a link?
is there a way to trick youtube into thinking your on wifi so that it defaults to HQ.
I know on iphones theres "3g unrestrictor" is there something like that for android?
bowbei said:
I can't find these threads regarding sideloading. Can anyone provide a link?
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Dude, it's a sticky in the development forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=738376
5 different ways to sideload.
Also, in case you didn't even bother looking in the correct forum, there is a sticky in this forum right above this topic about how to sideload:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=735482
Next time search around before posting.
IS this possible ? I know I know why would I want to.... Personally its the whole sh1t @ss media setup android has. Dont get me started on browsers.
I thought I read winmo has some kind of indentifier? Is this true? IF not are there any 8mp wp7 phones ?
Let the flamming begin my skin is made of asbestos!
I'd be interested in trying this out too. There was a project to create on on another Android Device, I just can't remember which one.
My grandparents always had this saying: **** in one hand and wish in the other. See which fills up faster.
I still to this day have no clue what that means but I feel like it applies here.
Just funning. This would be something I'd want too but I believe it's near impossible without a companion device on that OS a la HD2/EVO/HD7. That's why the HD2 can dual-boot all those OSes.
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IS this possible ? I know I know why would I want to.... Personally its the whole sh1t @ss media setup android has. Dont get me started on browsers.
I thought I read winmo has some kind of indentifier? Is this true? IF not are there any 8mp wp7 phones ?
Let the flamming begin my skin is made of asbestos!
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The closest your gonna get for now is the Launcher 7 app. Its free from the market.
Unfortunately (Or fortunately imo), this is likely never going to happen. It's just not possible with the extra security that MS has employed, and it would in all honesty be a waste of time. There isn't anything WM7 can do that Android can't. (AFAIK.)
Yea it would be definitely unique for them to make that possible...sort of like how they're trying to port android to the HD7...this could be a sort of new age HD2 LOL...you know without Wm of course
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Ive also read security is tough. they went the extra mile and there are a few hardware signatures.
I would be interested in seeing this happen for an N1 or G2x simply out of curiousity because i dont see myself ever leaving android let alone to buy a windows phone. a port would allow me to try it out for a while ( i think i know 1 person that has a WP7 ) lol
Id be curious to see how well it integrates to the PC and XBOX 360. ever since the windows smartphone became an Idea they killed the ability to see my android on the xbox which is a shame.
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There isn't anything WM7 can do that Android can't.
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Windows mobile 7 can multitask WAY better than Android. Try streaming audio or video in one window then open another and surf while trying to listen to the streaming audio/video in the first browser window that was active. On Android the audio/video streaming will cease, on Windows 7 you can browse on the newly opened window while the audio/video streaming from the first window will still be active and playing in the background for you to listen to.
Also, with all my reading and researching on other android forums and devices, it seems Android as an operating system is a huge battery drainer even when you're not activley using the handset/device. Windows mobile 7 won't have a horrible battery drain like Android when just on standby. My assumption on this is that google really wants to "listen" in on you, after all they are part of this "big brother" movement.
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My assumption on this is that google really wants to "listen" in on you, after all they are part of this "big brother" movement.
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Riiight. because everyone that has developed roms and code for android just ignores that and lets google "listen in"
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Windows mobile 7 can multitask WAY better than Android. Try streaming audio or video in one window then open another and surf while trying to listen to the streaming audio/video in the first browser window that was active. On Android the audio/video streaming will cease, on Windows 7 you can browse on the newly opened window while the audio/video streaming from the first window will still be active and playing in the background for you to listen to.
Also, with all my reading and researching on other android forums and devices, it seems Android as an operating system is a huge battery drainer even when you're not activley using the handset/device. Windows mobile 7 won't have a horrible battery drain like Android when just on standby. My assumption on this is that google really wants to "listen" in on you, after all they are part of this "big brother" movement.
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Someone seems a little paranoid Also: http://www.droid-life.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/android-rim-apple-comscore.png
P.S. Sorry to continue the off topic-ness...as far as your question goes OP, I doubt that it will ever happen because it would be hard to accomplish in the first place (due to security and compatibility with hardware) and I'm not sure that a lot of developers would be interested in undertaking this project.
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P.S. Sorry to continue the off topic-ness...as far as your question goes OP, I doubt that it will ever happen because it would be hard to accomplish in the first place (due to security and compatibility with hardware) and I'm not sure that a lot of developers would be interested in undertaking this project.
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Agreed, I can't imagine any devs putting in the HUGE effort it would take to port WP7 to this device given the lack of demand for such a port (most people who want WP7 buy a phone with WP7). That said, it would be a great technical accomplishment and just plain cool.
my whole thing is (and heres where I debunk the whole android is superior myth)
is im a media guy: internet music videos etc. And im sorry but android SUCKS and FAILS massively with that. and of course theres the whole stupid file management thing(why is there not a native file explorer like windows?).
and then the biggest android fail: web browsing.
it just sucks on android. I mean its awful. WHy is the native browser so... crappy? I feel its bs that i have to "get an app for that" when it seems to me it should be part of the native OS. I know...its a phone. But whotf uses "mobile version" websites? what is this symbian? And why has no one made an ap for the ua debug ? I want to open my browser and go to ANY website I want in FULL desktop view. JUST LIKE WINDOWS. WITHOUT having to type in "aboutdebug" go to settings etc... really getting old
Skyfires ok...but... some websites(like my bank ) dont work. ANd pay for video??? sigh. at least they have a UA psuedo ap at the top.
and again poor media structure...No music or video looping...the list goes on.
MAybe you guys have suggestions. I also HATE that all my media shows up in gallery. grrr ...gallery blows. I dont want to "hide" my files I just want to seperate them and not have them all open up in "gallery".
SO yes windows phones DO have some advanteges over android. Too bad windows phones suck at everything else.
MS kills me when they advertise wp7 has "thousands" of apps. its like when some loacl band compares them selves to a bigger badn" we have hundreds of fans"...k.
back to my rant ....WHy does android have the UA set this anyways its totally fkn (insert deragatory tasteless term here for all you pc bishes).
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WHy does android have the UA set this anyways its totally fkn [email protected]
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Please don't use gay as a derogatory term or put down. It's tasteless.
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my whole thing is (and heres where I debunk the whole android is superior myth)
is im a media guy: internet music videos etc. And im sorry but android SUCKS and FAILS massively with that. and of course theres the whole stupid file management thing(why is there not a native file explorer like windows?).
and then the biggest android fail: web browsing.
it just sucks on android. I mean its awful. WHy is the native browser so... crappy? I feel its bs that i have to "get an app for that" when it seems to me it should be part of the native OS. I know...its a phone. But whotf uses "mobile version" websites? what is this symbian? And why has no one made an ap for the ua debug ? I want to open my browser and go to ANY website I want in FULL desktop view. JUST LIKE WINDOWS. WITHOUT having to type in "aboutdebug" go to settings etc... really getting old
Skyfires ok...but... some websites(like my bank ) dont work. ANd pay for video??? sigh. at least they have a UA psuedo ap at the top.
and again poor media structure...No music or video looping...the list goes on.
MAybe you guys have suggestions. I also HATE that all my media shows up in gallery. grrr ...gallery blows. I dont want to "hide" my files I just want to seperate them and not have them all open up in "gallery".
SO yes windows phones DO have some advanteges over android. Too bad windows phones suck at everything else.
MS kills me when they advertise wp7 has "thousands" of apps. its like when some loacl band compares them selves to a bigger badn" we have hundreds of fans"...k.
back to my rant ....WHy does android have the UA set this anyways its totally fkn [email protected]
I dont mind the off topic comments
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I love Android...and completely disagree with all (almost all) of your points...but you are entitled to your opinion. I have to wonder though why you would go on an Android forum and rant against Android...seems a little trollish. Sure WP7 has some advantages over Android (not sure what they are)...peas have some advantages over carrots...but they aren't the same thing and if I want peas I don't eat carrots (and then complain about the carrots). Maybe you should sell your g2x (assuming you have one) and get a WP7 phone. Not trying to be an ass. Just don't understand where you're coming from.
But like I said, a WP7 port would be cool from a technical standpoint.
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Please don't use gay as a derogatory term or put down. It's tasteless.
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hiko36 said:
Please don't use gay as a derogatory term or put down. It's tasteless.
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yeah ok "storm" ... I changed it so you dont cry to mommy that i hurt your feelings but fyi I didnt type "gay".... can we get back to topic now? ill try n watch my p's n q's. Funny how every one can say the f word and all kind of swearing on this forum, but the minute i use the word gay someone has to whine about it. WHy dont you look up the original context of the term ghey and how its NOT a deragatory term. SOme people got to much time on their hands. Man up will ya?
for the file explorer there are plenty of free great apps.
for the browser Its not as great as my desktop but i use it often and don't have any issues. the mobile version of websites is becoming more common and when the web admin does a good job the mobile specific version is laid out better. for example sun-trust mobile. I don't even miss having an app the mobile site is so well laid out
when I need a desktop version in CM7 i just select "change user agent" under settings. if you don't like that there is always Firefox which isnt perfect but i love the syncing favs/passwords with desktop.
I will however agree with the lack of "pizzaz and wow" with media. and i REALLY agree with you on the featureless gallery and not being able to better organize it.
Just remember the whole point in android isn't to have everything set up just the way YOU like it right away. not everyone likes the same thing. the beauty in android is if you don't like it you can easily change it.
think of it this way.. the Iphone is a great phone for many people. but if you don't like the way something works or don't like Itunes you are pretty much S.O.L
once you get everything set and dialed in you wont ever want to part with your android and most other phone users are jealous
that being said.. again i really do agree with you and there needs to be some work done with the way the phone deals with media and storage.
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I love Android...and completely disagree with all (almost all) of your points...but you are entitled to your opinion. I have to wonder though why you would go on an Android forum and rant against Android...seems a little trollish. Sure WP7 has some advantages over Android (not sure what they are)...peas have some advantages over carrots...but they aren't the same thing and if I want peas I don't eat carrots (and then complain about the carrots). Maybe you should sell your g2x (assuming you have one) and get a WP7 phone. Not trying to be an ass. Just don't understand where you're coming from.
But like I said, a WP7 port would be cool from a technical standpoint.
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Funny how now im a troll because I have some gripes with android. Do you work for google and dont like me pointing out flaws? IM just saying these are things that android lacks... and I love my g2x too much to give it up.lol. Not trolling, not trying to offend any one with the way I talk. But I am still right about this as you have yet to prove me wrong or give me advice on how to work around it. and I dont hate android, its awesome and I love everything thats being done with it so why not make it better and have better media software for it?
I had a mt4g then went to the hd7 in high hopes for the wp7 and enjoyed it for a few days simply because of Netflix and simplicity... but. I came running back to android on the g2x after 2 terrible hd7 handsets... it had a few nice features but in no way stands up against what we can mold our android to be.
As for the browser wp7 was amazingly smooth...
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Funny how now im a troll because I have some gripes with android. Do you work for google and dont like me pointing out flaws? IM just saying these are things that android lacks... and I love my g2x too much to give it up.lol. Not trolling, not trying to offend any one with the way I talk. But I am still right about this as you have yet to prove me wrong or give me advice on how to work around it. and I dont hate android, its awesome and I love everything thats being done with it so why not make it better and have better media software for it?
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Maybe u would enjoy the zune launcher
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hah.. lets not get started on ZUNE. I still love my old Zune 130 because i prefer the hardware buttons during work. if it wasn't for that and storage.my G2X might replace it.
the zune software is better than it was but it still isn't great and I still don't understand why a MICROSOFT zune cant natively sync with MICROSOFT media player.
anyway back on topic haha
I keep finding myself thinking I could do all this on a cheap phone. What do you use your smartphone for on a daily basis?
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I keep finding myself thinking I could do all this on a cheap phone. What do you use your smartphone for on a daily basis?
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Well i have a Google Voice tied to my phone, that i use for my work line. I also have my work email tied to my phone. I also use Springpad for daily task and it syncs with my computer. I use Google docs to keep important files at my finger tips. the AD-HOC tethering is nice so i can have wireless access to my catalogs from anywhere on a table or laptop... i use mine more for business then i ever thought about with my blackberry.
stream music to my phone from my computer without having to put any music files on my SD card, tethering, wifi/wifi calling, youtube videos, flash for camera, "4G" speeds, and integrated email. didnt have any of these useful features on my previous sidekick 08 lol
Almost anything you can do with a computer or laptop I can do with my phone except its more convenient cause it fits in my pocket doesn't need to be connected to wifi and takes pictures and video so I think I would prefer my intelligent phone over my laptop anyday but of course the desktop wins cause it can run the games my Xbox360 can and it helps make things for my device lol
I think we're just one level behind where its total convenience. Right now it seems like voice recognition isn't too great outside of text messaging. I'm sure Android has a lot more to bring to the table though.
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we'll see a legitimate siri clone very soon, but even so, I regularly use the voice command- "navigate to __" to gps my way around miami. more than anything, on a personal level, my phone has made my life so much easier regarding events. My phone calendar is the only reason I'm ever where I'm supposed to be.
i think most people with smartphones who see no use in them just haven't made the effort to see how they can improve their lives. I'm not saying they are for everyone, but I truly believe they can be. You just need to see how and why.
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we'll see a legitimate siri clone very soon, but even so, I regularly use the voice command- "navigate to __" to gps my way around miami. more than anything, on a personal level, my phone has made my life so much easier regarding events. My phone calendar is the only reason I'm ever where I'm supposed to be.
i think most people with smartphones who see no use in them just haven't made the effort to see how they can improve their lives. I'm not saying they are for everyone, but I truly believe they can be. You just need to see how and why.
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informative and beautiful calendar widget is the reason why i'm using this "sense" smartphone. plus notes app also beautiful, and reader, beats, ds camera, alarm. hahaha this phone really make my life better.
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we'll see a legitimate siri clone very soon, but even so, I regularly use the voice command- "navigate to __" to gps my way around miami. more than anything, on a personal level, my phone has made my life so much easier regarding events. My phone calendar is the only reason I'm ever where I'm supposed to be.
i think most people with smartphones who see no use in them just haven't made the effort to see how they can improve their lives. I'm not saying they are for everyone, but I truly believe they can be. You just need to see how and why.
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I totally agree, that's why I started this thread
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They're good projectiles....Their slim design is quite aerodynamicky, the MT4G's weight gives it good stopping power. But seriously I use it for email, quick photos, some games, twitt, fb, gplus,etc...
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They're good projectiles....
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Back on topic, considering that this is my first smartphone, I find it useful, but I'm probably old school compared to many here and I've managed to live this long without a smartphone. I finally got on board not because I care to downsize my computing devices, but because I wanted a GPS-enabled device for navigation for the few times I need it. Also, a QWERTY keyboard in conjunction with Swype is a massive improvement over an alphanumeric keypad for composing texts or simply taking notes. That said, I still prefer using my desktop over my laptop over my phone, and the phone will never be a good interface for me to perform heavy text composition.
To me, what's nice is that the apps I did rarely use on my dumbphone like the calendar and calculator are much more spacious and intuitive to use now to the point where I'm willing to use them more often. It's also nice to have a specialized flashlight app and the ability to easily check my email and the weather. I really like the voice dictation and Swype inputs as well.
Also, yes, it is much harder to distract yourself with a dumbphone if should you find yourself stuck somewhere with someone/something to wait on and nothing to do. Ever since I flashed VU, I've spent more time scrolling the home screens and looking at the animations than anything else. I could easily waste time with this thing even without wireless data or Wi-Fi.
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I keep finding myself thinking I could do all this on a cheap phone. What do you use your smartphone for on a daily basis?
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Uh this phone kicks ass...
Why don't you name something you can't do excluding playing Angry Birds in 1080p 3D HD?
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had a very similar conversation with the House Boss shortly after we got our first Android phones, (got snookered with the Samsung Behold2, almost made us go back to regular phones) once we got the MT3G-S we both fell in love with our phones (even though I jumped on the MT4G, needed more power and screen). she loves the keyboard for typing her texts and browsing web, the fact she now has Youtube on the go for watching funny vids and vids of our nieces and nephews, the great calender, games and with Pandora and her SD card no more need for her iPod.
I combine my MT4G and my Acer Iconia A500 Tablet to make my life way easier and much much less cluttered in my 18-wheeler between GPS, calender, notepad/office programs helping me keep everything inline for work and Hulu, Netflix and the games helping entertain me when I'm stuck somewhere and getting bored, I have saved money and was able to shave weight off the crap I carry in the truck allowing more cargo (means more money). Don't really know how I did this for as long as I did before.
http://androidandme.com/2012/01/news/t-mobile-puts-six-android-phones-on-the-chopping-block/
Less than a year and they are talking of Cutting models?!
Nearing, not at, so who knows how long that will drag on.
They must have something coming up their sleeves, we'll see what happens.
Whatever it is, i'm with this device for a while to come. I got some nuts to crack with development for it, and i've picked this one to stop and learn all the ins-and-outs of Android on.
The Achilles heel of this device is the lack of internal storage, (battery aside) to me it's where the ball got dropped on this one. With the 16/32 gig internal available on releasing models, that's a significant difference, and probably skews the playing field a bit.
Speaking of field, the near field technology deal is another thing that's being released that T-Mo might be trying to get devices with and capitalize on. Since Verizon dropped the ball by putting a blockage between the tech and Google Wallet (which, really, is what makes it work for point of sale payments) I can see other carriers trying to get in on it like Sprint did to distinguish themselves from #1 by offering a service they don't.
Dunno, it's really all speculation at this point in the game, but i'm with this one for the long haul. The longer I stick with this one, the quicker/easier it'll be to transition to another and i'll probably be able to pull my ROMs forward to whatever the next good hardware keyboard device is.
(really, after learning all the shortcut keys for the hardware buttons, how could you not have that?? It's like trying to type on a real computer wearing mittens without them.)
This makes me mad, but really, we don't know what exactly this means. I wish more people would have realized what an awesome phone this is.
wth? this makes no sense at all... i could see them discontinuing silders (although not liking the idea) but seeing sensation amaze and the mid/low end LG models too makes me wonder.
perhaps they are the least popular ones? sounds kinda weird tho
Yeah, sensation was/is very popular.... Amaze literally just came out. it's a beast... Dub tee eff
Just my spare change.
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Nearing, not at, so who knows how long that will drag on.
They must have something coming up their sleeves, we'll see what happens.
Whatever it is, i'm with this device for a while to come. I got some nuts to crack with development for it, and i've picked this one to stop and learn all the ins-and-outs of Android on.
The Achilles heel of this device is the lack of internal storage, (battery aside) to me it's where the ball got dropped on this one. With the 16/32 gig internal available on releasing models, that's a significant difference, and probably skews the playing field a bit.
Speaking of field, the near field technology deal is another thing that's being released that T-Mo might be trying to get devices with and capitalize on. Since Verizon dropped the ball by putting a blockage between the tech and Google Wallet (which, really, is what makes it work for point of sale payments) I can see other carriers trying to get in on it like Sprint did to distinguish themselves from #1 by offering a service they don't.
Dunno, it's really all speculation at this point in the game, but i'm with this one for the long haul. The longer I stick with this one, the quicker/easier it'll be to transition to another and i'll probably be able to pull my ROMs forward to whatever the next good hardware keyboard device is.
(really, after learning all the shortcut keys for the hardware buttons, how could you not have that?? It's like trying to type on a real computer wearing mittens without them.)
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Have you read up on mtd any? Something I was noticing as well, although its not like I've gone anywhere near limits of this device... And I'm with u unless they drop a 5" keyboard device... Like a samsung epic note.... Would switch back to samsunk then.
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Could you expand on that a bit? I skipped sleep yet again, last night, and it's just not clicking right now.
I spent the last couple of hours browsing over the forums here in our little corner of XDA. I didn't really have the head to get any work done, and so much has happened that i've missed recently. Taking a few hours to just browse around and read this or that and catch up a little bit has been helpful.
There was a time not too long ago where i'd read every post in the MT4GS forums, most multiple times. Just a few weeks float by and now there's so much I have to catch up on, there are still a few topics I need to spend some time wrapping my head around.
I'd love to spend a day just reading up on and playing with MR. Root, the download mode thread, and the various Hboot threads to just soak them all in together and see where I could help out. Then i'd love to build on that by taking a good long look at the string of OTA updates and see what it'll take to crack the latest un-rootable roadblock we got tossed. Maybe pick up something along the way to add to it all.
I dunno, at the moment sleep deprived and just a tad overwhelmed by the amount of information here I haven't had the chance to soak in yet, and all the stuff i'm trying to roll out for my ROM - and i've got a lot of threads that are getting out of date that need to be brought current, added to and finished.
This little floating session has kinda given me a good handle on what I need to do to make progress in all the aforementioned areas though, so when I sit down I can just get started instead of trying to figure out what i'm doing.
Kinda useless right this very moment, but that's okay because I got 11 minutes before I have to walk out the door. I'll turn all this over in my head during the day, and hit the ground running when I get to steal some time tonight.
Meantime, what's mtd? lmao
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Have you read up on mtd any? Something I was noticing as well, although its not like I've gone anywhere near limits of this device... And I'm with u unless they drop a 5" keyboard device... Like a samsung epic note.... Would switch back to samsunk then.
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Agreed.
The problem is, at least in my opinion, high end devices with QWERTY keyboards are really rare. If you look at TMob's lineup, they've got the Sidekick 4G, the Cliq2, the gravity smart, the MTQ, and the MT4GS. Only the 4GS is really a high end device, with the rest either being mid-tier, or really crappy.
What's really sad is that the only other carrier who seems to have a decent variety of QWERTY androids is Verizon. Sprint and AT&T don't seem that interested (although AT&T has the captivate glide (which is about the level of the Cliq2, IMO), and I think the general perception is that QWERTY devices are for entry level texters.
I didn't meant to go off on a tangent, but I think the MT4GS, discontinued or not, is going to be the only option for QWERTY lovers for a while. I am hoping we see a MT5GS after a while, but the fact that LG seems to be making MT devices concerns me. Maybe the MT4GS was the last hurrah of the line.
I can see them getting chopped up and divided amongst the other carriers. Maybe they're getting ready for that?
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Meantime, what's mtd? lmao
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MTD as i remember it from the G1 and the MT3GS is the ability to grow and shrink partitions. Using a flashable .zip and a .txt file on the Sdcard, for example, we were able to grow the data partition at the cost of cache and system (good if we were using an AOSP rom like Cyanogenmod).
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Ah nice - thanks. Now that you jog my memory, that was brought up in a thread around here sometime not long ago.
Think it was a thread about app 2 sd? Not sure - thanks for the clarification
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Ah nice - thanks. Now that you jog my memory, that was brought up in a thread around here sometime not long ago.
Think it was a thread about app 2 sd? Not sure - thanks for the clarification
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Glad my bad explaining can help the community XD
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Glad my bad explaining can help the community XD
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Nah, you did great, and that's about as much as I know about it anyways so it put it in a frame of reference for me which was exactly what I needed
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Have you read up on mtd any? ...
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Nah, not really - and intentionally so actually. In my quest to make Bulletproof be as stable as possible this is something that would throw a monkey wrench in my work at this time.
In the future it's on the list, because i'm ending up with internal space that is essentially wasted, and this probably the best way to reclaim that and make it usable.
I'm a little jealous of all the knowledge most of you have from having Android phones before - stuff like this you just know about, whereas i'd have to actively look for it unless someone mentions it off-hand, and it's hard to look for things you don't know exist.
That only means they're going to stop selling it. Look at the G2. They declared its end of life eight months after it first went on the market.
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That only means they're going to stop selling it. Look at the G2. They declared its end of life eight months after it first went on the market.
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And I used mine well past that point.
Just my spare change.
mt4gs is just a plain good phone with its camera and dual core. Its still sized as a phone should be in my book. We have true ICS working, sense ics working, and a good heap of feature complete GB roms as well... So if they dont produce something unprecedented in the mobile camera business in the following year, its a keeper anyway... i even ordered it from here europe to enjoy this amazing phone. I say get while you still can...lol
i think i figured out why t-mobile would want to do this.
the chances are that new phones with S4 snapdragons are around the corner (MWC) and with them being 28nm SoCs the battery life will be dramatically improved, which to be fair is the real downside of current phones...
still, it's very very sad to see a phone discontinued after just few months
Looks like the rumors of the mT4GS' demise were exaggerated. Looks like it was a fat finger error. There is still life for this great phone. Nothing to see here move along.
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hmm well, sell through is not good either, just means a few more months to go before eol
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MTD as i remember it from the G1 and the MT3GS is the ability to grow and shrink partitions. Using a flashable .zip and a .txt file on the Sdcard, for example, we were able to grow the data partition at the cost of cache and system (good if we were using an AOSP rom like Cyanogenmod).
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MTD is an acronym for Memory Technology Device. It describes the CLASS OF STORAGE NAND hardware, and the driver infrastructure in the Linux kernel that was responsible for managing it.
Those scripts that you remember using were manipulating the default kernel command line, in order to feed a customized PARTITION TABLE into the MTD DRIVER, rather than the "fixed" one stored within the hardware's SPL.
This does not apply to Doubleshot, since Doubleshot uses an eMMC instead, though there may be similar approaches to feeding the eMMC driver a custom partition table.
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The Achilles heel of this device is the lack of internal storage, (battery aside) to me it's where the ball got dropped on this one. With the 16/32 gig internal available on releasing models, that's a significant difference, and probably skews the playing field a bit.
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Don't most of those 16/32 GB internal storage devices LACK an sdcard slot? If so, then Doubleshot has a potential for up to 34 GB storage, which is 2 GB more than a 32 GB device...
A Windows Store recently opened near me. I figured I may as well give it a shot.
Currently running CM10, though I might switch back to AOKP Milestone 6.3 since things are a bit more stable there. Because the competition is done from boot, I can't have apps cached. It's probably a good idea to overclock this thing a bit, as well.
They can choose any challenge they want, and it's more than likely that they'll try to pick one that MS Corporate has identified to be a trouble area for my particular phone. Having a custom ROM on here might serve to level the playing field a bit, but by how much I don't know.
Certain things like disabling the lock screen and putting certain apps (Maps, Local, etc) on the main home screen are easy enough to do, but I was wondering if there was anything else to take into consideration. For example, the Facebook widget lets me update my status right from the home screen, a step less than needed with the Me tile on WP. Also, if I remember right, one of the challenges that has gotten a bit of notoriety is having to display two cities' weather data simultaneously. I think I can do this with a pair of widgets, but I'm not sure which.
Also, the prize is a $1000 MS Store gift card if I thoroughly smoke the Windows Phone (all six challenges). I'm not sure what they'll all be (I'd imagine a few of them would be lifted from the ads), but I know I can beat the Lumia 900 in a few of them.
Edit: Just thought of something - what if I were to use a WP-style launcher with some functioning live tiles to win? That'd really mess with them.
Lol they did the same thing 3 months ago but they are lame because they don't let you go in with such high end device like the hox. Make sure to have a widget showing the time in two cities, that's their favorite challange
I'm sure you've looked into it, but heres a list of the most common ones they use, plus some of the conditions:
http://slickdeals.net/f/4143624-NEW-Smoked-By-Windows-Phone-Contest-3-30-12-4-5-12-100-Phones-Per-Day-500-25-Gift-Cards
And if you can get a Windows Phone launcher set up and feel confident with it, please record it, I'm sure the looks on their faces will be priceless.
From the rules in the link above:
"Your smartphone must be using the original, unmodified operating system that came standard on your smartphone. Any entries for which the challenge task has been pre-loaded are not eligible."
Oh well.
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wondows phone challenge is stupid IMO, MS needs to stop the nonsense.
Heres a windows phone challenge, have a ton of apps in your app store
I'll have obtain a copy of the current rules from the store and pick through them. I'm not sure what the whole "can't have challenges pre-loaded" deal is, but if they disqualify me for having widgets while having live tiles pinned to the screen, that's a load of garbage.
Also, the part where it says I can't have an unmodified phone is at the least worded fatuously. Really? The version that came with the phone? Guess I have to go back to 1.85 and have nothing on it...
I don't think the employees would really be able to tell the difference if I came in with an AOSP ROM, but I suppose I could just pop the latest version of CleanROM on there and tweak it under the hood. Sense is pretty well-integrated into social networks, though I'm not sure if it's quicker than the multi-network updates from the WP me tile.
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From the rules in the link above:
"Your smartphone must be using the original, unmodified operating system that came standard on your smartphone. Any entries for which the challenge task has been pre-loaded are not eligible."
Oh well.
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Assuming thwy're smart enough to know. Just walk in with Apex / Nova / stock? I'm not sure how strict they are, but I wouldn't give them too much credit, their just sales reps.
If there were no rules I would : any 4.0.3 ROM to use beast mode kernel. OC to 2.1 ghz and use performance governor so it stays at max. Use dual core mod so both cores are always active, and last but not least go into developer and disable animations. And keep an ice pack near by so you don't have anything catch on fire.
[email protected] windows app store. Very true. Luckily play store in my opinion is as good as app store for iOS. I think its a little superior since it loads much faster and doesn't require a password to update and download apps. I hate visiting the app store on my iPad. Unbelievably slow. The whole os is sluggish compared to this...
Make sure fastboot is enabled. Many of the challenges are from power off....
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Would fastboot allow for quicker initialization of apps from startup? I'm pretty sure the reboot is just to clear apps from RAM, and that boot time isn't part of the challenge.
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A Windows Store recently opened near me. I figured I may as well give it a shot.
Currently running CM10, though I might switch back to AOKP Milestone 6.3 since things are a bit more stable there. Because the competition is done from boot, I can't have apps cached. It's probably a good idea to overclock this thing a bit, as well.
They can choose any challenge they want, and it's more than likely that they'll try to pick one that MS Corporate has identified to be a trouble area for my particular phone. Having a custom ROM on here might serve to level the playing field a bit, but by how much I don't know.
Certain things like disabling the lock screen and putting certain apps (Maps, Local, etc) on the main home screen are easy enough to do, but I was wondering if there was anything else to take into consideration. For example, the Facebook widget lets me update my status right from the home screen, a step less than needed with the Me tile on WP. Also, if I remember right, one of the challenges that has gotten a bit of notoriety is having to display two cities' weather data simultaneously. I think I can do this with a pair of widgets, but I'm not sure which.
Also, the prize is a $1000 MS Store gift card if I thoroughly smoke the Windows Phone (all six challenges). I'm not sure what they'll all be (I'd imagine a few of them would be lifted from the ads), but I know I can beat the Lumia 900 in a few of them.
Edit: Just thought of something - what if I were to use a WP-style launcher with some functioning live tiles to win? That'd really mess with them.
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Seems pretty intresting, lol I'd love to try as well . Well anyways what i can help you with is for the ROM does it have to be stock? If not just pick somthing like CleanRom 4.2 and overclock it to 2.1Glz or 1.9 (Whichever works better for you). Second choice would be to use a Vanila rom like what your using. Other than that all i can say is good luck!
EDIT: Some reason, it didnt load anything other than the OP.... Oh well, only if you could mod...
In the videos I've seen some of the challenges included booting the phone from power off.
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Don't take it. They minus will call it the: we compare our flagship phone to your outdated one and choose challenges that we have selected that specifically target the weaknesses of your phone in order to get more people to buy our phones.
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Don't take it. They minus will call it the: we compare our flagship phone to your outdated one and choose challenges that we have selected that specifically target the weaknesses of your phone in order to get more people to buy our phones.
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Well, the idea is to overcome the weaknesses by eking out as much performance as I can and setting up my UI in a way that lets me do things as efficiently as WP can, like you can with Android. I could pop the latest CleanROM on there and the MS store employees would be none the wiser.
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In the videos I've seen some of the challenges included booting the phone from power off.
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in which I'm sure sense's fast boot would win
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Well, the idea is to overcome the weaknesses by eking out as much performance as I can and setting up my UI in a way that lets me do things as efficiently as WP can, like you can with Android. I could pop the latest CleanROM on there and the MS store employees would be none the wiser.
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Well then why not pop in a kernel too
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I think that the Windows Phone challenge is just plain dumb. The fact that they dictate exactly what the challenge is just seems to rigged to me
You're going to lose, and even if you win, they're going to find a way to get out of giving you anything. People have tried this, and MS has screwed them out of it.
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Well then why not pop in a kernel too
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It's supposed to be "Stock" which can mean a lot of things, too vague.
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It's supposed to be "Stock" which can mean a lot of things, too vague.
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Yeah, this is what I'm worried about the most. They could weasel their way out of losing by claiming most any modification I make the phone has taken it from stock. I'm not safe from this clause unless I run a 1.85 RUU, relock the bootloader and make no changes to the phone except from the initial setup.