I'm going to take the Windows Phone Challenge. Any advice? - AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL

A Windows Store recently opened near me. I figured I may as well give it a shot.
Currently running CM10, though I might switch back to AOKP Milestone 6.3 since things are a bit more stable there. Because the competition is done from boot, I can't have apps cached. It's probably a good idea to overclock this thing a bit, as well.
They can choose any challenge they want, and it's more than likely that they'll try to pick one that MS Corporate has identified to be a trouble area for my particular phone. Having a custom ROM on here might serve to level the playing field a bit, but by how much I don't know.
Certain things like disabling the lock screen and putting certain apps (Maps, Local, etc) on the main home screen are easy enough to do, but I was wondering if there was anything else to take into consideration. For example, the Facebook widget lets me update my status right from the home screen, a step less than needed with the Me tile on WP. Also, if I remember right, one of the challenges that has gotten a bit of notoriety is having to display two cities' weather data simultaneously. I think I can do this with a pair of widgets, but I'm not sure which.
Also, the prize is a $1000 MS Store gift card if I thoroughly smoke the Windows Phone (all six challenges). I'm not sure what they'll all be (I'd imagine a few of them would be lifted from the ads), but I know I can beat the Lumia 900 in a few of them.
Edit: Just thought of something - what if I were to use a WP-style launcher with some functioning live tiles to win? That'd really mess with them.

Lol they did the same thing 3 months ago but they are lame because they don't let you go in with such high end device like the hox. Make sure to have a widget showing the time in two cities, that's their favorite challange

I'm sure you've looked into it, but heres a list of the most common ones they use, plus some of the conditions:
http://slickdeals.net/f/4143624-NEW-Smoked-By-Windows-Phone-Contest-3-30-12-4-5-12-100-Phones-Per-Day-500-25-Gift-Cards
And if you can get a Windows Phone launcher set up and feel confident with it, please record it, I'm sure the looks on their faces will be priceless.

From the rules in the link above:
"Your smartphone must be using the original, unmodified operating system that came standard on your smartphone. Any entries for which the challenge task has been pre-loaded are not eligible."
Oh well.
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wondows phone challenge is stupid IMO, MS needs to stop the nonsense.
Heres a windows phone challenge, have a ton of apps in your app store

I'll have obtain a copy of the current rules from the store and pick through them. I'm not sure what the whole "can't have challenges pre-loaded" deal is, but if they disqualify me for having widgets while having live tiles pinned to the screen, that's a load of garbage.
Also, the part where it says I can't have an unmodified phone is at the least worded fatuously. Really? The version that came with the phone? Guess I have to go back to 1.85 and have nothing on it...
I don't think the employees would really be able to tell the difference if I came in with an AOSP ROM, but I suppose I could just pop the latest version of CleanROM on there and tweak it under the hood. Sense is pretty well-integrated into social networks, though I'm not sure if it's quicker than the multi-network updates from the WP me tile.

Vendetta-NY said:
From the rules in the link above:
"Your smartphone must be using the original, unmodified operating system that came standard on your smartphone. Any entries for which the challenge task has been pre-loaded are not eligible."
Oh well.
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Assuming thwy're smart enough to know. Just walk in with Apex / Nova / stock? I'm not sure how strict they are, but I wouldn't give them too much credit, their just sales reps.

If there were no rules I would : any 4.0.3 ROM to use beast mode kernel. OC to 2.1 ghz and use performance governor so it stays at max. Use dual core mod so both cores are always active, and last but not least go into developer and disable animations. And keep an ice pack near by so you don't have anything catch on fire.
[email protected] windows app store. Very true. Luckily play store in my opinion is as good as app store for iOS. I think its a little superior since it loads much faster and doesn't require a password to update and download apps. I hate visiting the app store on my iPad. Unbelievably slow. The whole os is sluggish compared to this...

Make sure fastboot is enabled. Many of the challenges are from power off....
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Would fastboot allow for quicker initialization of apps from startup? I'm pretty sure the reboot is just to clear apps from RAM, and that boot time isn't part of the challenge.

Protogon said:
A Windows Store recently opened near me. I figured I may as well give it a shot.
Currently running CM10, though I might switch back to AOKP Milestone 6.3 since things are a bit more stable there. Because the competition is done from boot, I can't have apps cached. It's probably a good idea to overclock this thing a bit, as well.
They can choose any challenge they want, and it's more than likely that they'll try to pick one that MS Corporate has identified to be a trouble area for my particular phone. Having a custom ROM on here might serve to level the playing field a bit, but by how much I don't know.
Certain things like disabling the lock screen and putting certain apps (Maps, Local, etc) on the main home screen are easy enough to do, but I was wondering if there was anything else to take into consideration. For example, the Facebook widget lets me update my status right from the home screen, a step less than needed with the Me tile on WP. Also, if I remember right, one of the challenges that has gotten a bit of notoriety is having to display two cities' weather data simultaneously. I think I can do this with a pair of widgets, but I'm not sure which.
Also, the prize is a $1000 MS Store gift card if I thoroughly smoke the Windows Phone (all six challenges). I'm not sure what they'll all be (I'd imagine a few of them would be lifted from the ads), but I know I can beat the Lumia 900 in a few of them.
Edit: Just thought of something - what if I were to use a WP-style launcher with some functioning live tiles to win? That'd really mess with them.
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Seems pretty intresting, lol I'd love to try as well . Well anyways what i can help you with is for the ROM does it have to be stock? If not just pick somthing like CleanRom 4.2 and overclock it to 2.1Glz or 1.9 (Whichever works better for you). Second choice would be to use a Vanila rom like what your using. Other than that all i can say is good luck!
EDIT: Some reason, it didnt load anything other than the OP.... Oh well, only if you could mod...

In the videos I've seen some of the challenges included booting the phone from power off.
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Don't take it. They minus will call it the: we compare our flagship phone to your outdated one and choose challenges that we have selected that specifically target the weaknesses of your phone in order to get more people to buy our phones.

atticusmas said:
Don't take it. They minus will call it the: we compare our flagship phone to your outdated one and choose challenges that we have selected that specifically target the weaknesses of your phone in order to get more people to buy our phones.
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Well, the idea is to overcome the weaknesses by eking out as much performance as I can and setting up my UI in a way that lets me do things as efficiently as WP can, like you can with Android. I could pop the latest CleanROM on there and the MS store employees would be none the wiser.

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In the videos I've seen some of the challenges included booting the phone from power off.
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in which I'm sure sense's fast boot would win
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Protogon said:
Well, the idea is to overcome the weaknesses by eking out as much performance as I can and setting up my UI in a way that lets me do things as efficiently as WP can, like you can with Android. I could pop the latest CleanROM on there and the MS store employees would be none the wiser.
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Well then why not pop in a kernel too
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I think that the Windows Phone challenge is just plain dumb. The fact that they dictate exactly what the challenge is just seems to rigged to me

You're going to lose, and even if you win, they're going to find a way to get out of giving you anything. People have tried this, and MS has screwed them out of it.

TheNightHawk223 said:
Well then why not pop in a kernel too
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It's supposed to be "Stock" which can mean a lot of things, too vague.

vioalas said:
It's supposed to be "Stock" which can mean a lot of things, too vague.
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Yeah, this is what I'm worried about the most. They could weasel their way out of losing by claiming most any modification I make the phone has taken it from stock. I'm not safe from this clause unless I run a 1.85 RUU, relock the bootloader and make no changes to the phone except from the initial setup.

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[APK] Brand new Market client

Not sure if anyone else has seen what the amazing work Android Devs have done on the Market, but it looks stunning. Heres a lonk to their blog w/ screenshots:
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/12/android-market-client-update.html
Anyway, a test apk has been leaked and here it is!
http://www.mediafire.com/?31bn3e258jjpj8d
Just update the apk via Astro, or if that doesnt work, copy to system/app via Root Explorer, reboot, and enjoy!
MAKE SURE TO BACKUP THE OLD APK!
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You just need to install it like you would any other app. No need to be rooted either.
http://droid-den.com/app-guides/android-guide-how-to-get-the-new-improved-market
I just used apk Installer and it worked fine. Nice update!
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Didnt think a manual update would work. ill update first post.
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Seems to work well here
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Just saw this post. Funny thing is, mine updated yesterday on its own. I was wondering if anyone else had this, thats when i saw this thread.
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jtc442 said:
Just saw this post. Funny thing is, mine updated yesterday on its own. I was wondering if anyone else had this, thats when i saw this thread.
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Really?? What firmware u on? Which carrier?
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Google are pushing this out over the air...
jtc442 said:
Just saw this post. Funny thing is, mine updated yesterday on its own. I was wondering if anyone else had this, thats when i saw this thread.
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The revamped one? They said about 2 weeks till they were fully pushing it out OTA.
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I'm not even sure I like this new version... Bits are better. The "wheel" at the top should function as one (spin to change from apps to games for example), and it would do well to be smaller.
It's not all good news though..... Not only are Google bringing in this revised App but they are also changing the returns policy on 'Paid Apps'.
At the moment it is 24hrs but very soon this will automatically change to 15mins..... Yes, FIFTEEN MINUTES!
Beards said:
It's not all good news though..... Not only are Google bringing in this revised App but they are also changing the returns policy on 'Paid Apps'.
At the moment it is 24hrs but very soon this will automatically change to 15mins..... Yes, FIFTEEN MINUTES!
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It is a massive change, and a majority of people dont like it, but I see where theyre coming from. Every app I have refunded have been at max 10 mins. Who needs a day to try an app to see if they like it or not?
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It is a massive change, and a majority of people dont like it, but I see where theyre coming from. Every app I have refunded have been at max 10 mins. Who needs a day to try an app to see if they like it or not?
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I can understand that for many it will not be an issue but for me it does suffer an impact.
A lot of my paid software has to be tested with other Apps and other people.
There is no way I can achieve this within 15 minutes nor would I wish to challenge one of my medical team to stop what he/she is doing just so as I can ensure the new App is tested within the new time lines.
Run of the mill games and non business applications should be fine but larger business orientated applications will I feel suffer.
They may end up having to take other measures to ensure sales targets are met.
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Run of the mill games and non business applications should be fine but larger business orientated applications will I feel suffer.
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I'm not totally convinced of that - most apps are pretty cheap (even the business ones) and I think a business can afford to drop £20 or so on a copy of an app for testing purposes, whereas perhaps a "casual" user might not.
For example, if I'm looking at rolling out Android phones to lots of users, and I want to check out 3rd party exchange integration solutions, it's going to cost me less than £20 to get full copies of both Touchdown and RoadSync.
YMMV of course!
I suspect we'll start seeing more free trial/time limited versions of software popping up.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
I'm not totally convinced of that - most apps are pretty cheap (even the business ones) and I think a business can afford to drop £20 or so on a copy of an app for testing purposes, whereas perhaps a "casual" user might not.
For example, if I'm looking at rolling out Android phones to lots of users, and I want to check out 3rd party exchange integration solutions, it's going to cost me less than £20 to get full copies of both Touchdown and RoadSync.
YMMV of course!
I suspect we'll start seeing more free trial/time limited versions of software popping up.
Regards,
Dave
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They will suffer if they don't introduce what you are saying (which I totally agree upon).
Under this new time limit there's effectively four problems:-
1. Large Content Application Downloads
Apps that have significant amounts of downloadable data i.e. Maps, Game data files etc can depending on your speed take ages to download. As such there is no realistic way you can download all the data and test it within 15mins.
2. Time & Location Apps
Some Apps rely upon a time of day or location (alarm clocks, location based sound profiles etc). 15mins isn't enough time to evaluate these Apps.
3. Utility Apps
Apps such as over-clocking, battery resource monitors, Wi-Fi/Bluetooth location-based togglers etc. How do you manage to test these within 15mins.
4. Buyers Confidence
If you have an entire day to download and try an app, you're less likely to feel rushed to test, or pressured into keeping the app. By offering an entire day to "try-before-you-commit-to-buy" Google and the developer community are conveying a sense of confidence that the apps found in the Android Market are of such high quality that you'll like them -- after all, if you don't like them they'll give you your money back! That's a pretty confident sentiment, and it sets potential buyers at ease.
By rolling that back to just a quarter-hour, Google is essentially reversing that sentiment, making users less likely to make the purchase in the first place. Do the math: 15 minutes is a reduction in time of 98.9583%.
As a short-term measure I would like to see Google change the time-limit to say 2 to 4hrs.
Long term I agree I hope we now get to see more Apps being offered with a trial bases, i.e. you can test an App for seven uses, after this time if you wish to keep and use you pay for it.
Beards said:
They will suffer if they don't introduce what you are saying (which I totally agree upon).
Under this new time limit there's effectively four problems:-
1. Large Content Application Downloads
Apps that have significant amounts of downloadable data i.e. Maps, Game data files etc can depending on your speed take ages to download. As such there is no realistic way you can download all the data and test it within 15mins.
2. Time & Location Apps
Some Apps rely upon a time of day or location (alarm clocks, location based sound profiles etc). 15mins isn't enough time to evaluate these Apps.
3. Utility Apps
Apps such as over-clocking, battery resource monitors, Wi-Fi/Bluetooth location-based togglers etc. How do you manage to test these within 15mins.
4. Buyers Confidence
If you have an entire day to download and try an app, you're less likely to feel rushed to test, or pressured into keeping the app. By offering an entire day to "try-before-you-commit-to-buy" Google and the developer community are conveying a sense of confidence that the apps found in the Android Market are of such high quality that you'll like them -- after all, if you don't like them they'll give you your money back! That's a pretty confident sentiment, and it sets potential buyers at ease.
By rolling that back to just a quarter-hour, Google is essentially reversing that sentiment, making users less likely to make the purchase in the first place. Do the math: 15 minutes is a reduction in time of 98.9583%.
As a short-term measure I would like to see Google change the time-limit to say 2 to 4hrs.
Long term I agree I hope we now get to see more Apps being offered with a trial bases, i.e. you can test an App for seven uses, after this time if you wish to keep and use you pay for it.
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1. yup, games with large downloads after installing will be an issue. An hout would be better. 24 hours effectively allowed you to complete a game so that was too much.
2. yeah but they generally have lite versions.
3. agreed.
4. Yeah, but 24 hours was way too much. 15 probably too little (although like GANJDROID I *generally* refund within 5 mins)
15 mins is better than nothing right? If the market started with 15 mins we would be happy. Fact is we were probably a bit spoilt by having a whole day.
On a positive note, I think that google wouldn't have done with without significant pressure, and I'd assume from large game companies. So, we might expect an influx of mega-high quality games as a result, something I'm (just about) willing to give up 23 hours and 45 minutes for!
Has anyone tried to use the search? It doesn't work at all for me. I tried hitting the magnifying glass, and choosing it from the menu. Nothing.
BoostedSR20 said:
Has anyone tried to use the search? It doesn't work at all for me. I tried hitting the magnifying glass, and choosing it from the menu. Nothing.
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Mine works fine. Try reinstallimg it or use the search touch button?
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GANJDROID said:
Mine works fine. Try reinstallimg it or use the search touch button?
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Yeah even the touch button doesn't work. I can't install it (no sideloading with ATT, and I haven't done anything to fix that) So I just copied it in with root explorer.
This is very odd. I'm gonna try a reboot.
Works fine after a reboot.

Thoughts so far

So far I love the phone. The feel and weight of the phone just seems better then my Captivate(which I gave to my wife). After not getting data on the phone unless I had WiFi on kind of sucked, but if you make a new network. You will be able to gain data back.
The only thing I am not liking is when I set up my HTC sense with Facebook, it put all my friends from facebook into my contacts list in my phone. I do not want all my friends on the list. I have tried and figure out how to delete from the list but cant figure it out. Anyone know how?
I also side loaded a few apps using the SLW program, once you download HTC sync on your computer it was easy.
I cant wait until this phone gets rooted so I can go in and change some stuff around, like ringtones. You can have custom ringtones when the phone is not plugged in to the USB but once you plug the USB in, it reverts back to the stock ringtones because it thinks shuts off your SD Card. Well you know what, I guess I can have the option to only have it charge will plugged in. That might work.
Other then that me loves the phone. Glade my wife had an upgrade so I could get the phone for $79.99 from Costco and a free charger with it. She loves my old Captivate so I was like hell ya ill trade ya!
Ha I love it...got a feeling alot of wives will be getting a captivate tommorow
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Happy valentines day ......here's my old phone! lol yes there will be alot of this goin on
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lol actually bought the wife a new Inspire to match mine, talked my parents into both getting them as well !
milleirish said:
The only thing I am not liking is when I set up my HTC sense with Facebook, it put all my friends from facebook into my contacts list in my phone. I do not want all my friends on the list. I have tried and figure out how to delete from the list but cant figure it out. Anyone know how?
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I have the Evo for sprint which should be similar. Open your People/contacts app, hit menu, and you should see an option that says 'View'. Select view to choose which contacts you want displayed and deselect your Facebook account.
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abanh said:
I have the Evo for sprint which should be similar. Open your People/contacts app, hit menu, and you should see an option that says 'View'. Select view to choose which contacts you want displayed and deselect your Facebook account.
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Ok so in the people and contacts it has my correct contacts. What am talking about is when you look at the phone on the homescreen you see the button that says phone. If you click on that it will show every one of my Facebook friends, even the ones they I dont have in my contact list. I dont want them there.
I haven't mentioned to my wife yet... she's gonna wonder why the hell I'm getting up early on a Sunday morning, probably think I'm having an affair, lol.
aimfire72 said:
I haven't mentioned to my wife yet... she's gonna wonder why the hell I'm getting up early on a Sunday morning, probably think I'm having an affair, lol.
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You are, with the Inspire 4G. hahaha
I dont regret it for a second, yeah no Real 4G but we have root, roms and radios NOW.
Also, for those that just want to install apps and leave the phone stock you can go to this thread created by me: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943174
The phone feels so polished and the screen is awesome, no Craptivate screen but it will turn heads.
We have accomplished so much in so little time.
Thanks to all the devs and porters out there, this is already a more than worthwhile device and for the price you can not beat it.
Atrix is just a bad memory of Motoblur hell, good luck trying to even root that damn thing.. hahaha
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Ok so in the people and contacts it has my correct contacts. What am talking about is when you look at the phone on the homescreen you see the button that says phone. If you click on that it will show every one of my Facebook friends, even the ones they I dont have in my contact list. I dont want them there.
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Ok I know what you're saying, and I didn't even realized my phone did that until you just mentioned it. I didn't see a way to get rid of them either.
If this is bothering you because you have to scroll through so many more names to get to the contact you want to dial, have you tried the t9 smart dialer feature? Lets say you want to dial 'John', instead of scrolling all the way down to his name, just spell out his name via t9 (5 for 'j', 6 for 'o', 4 for 'h', etc). The contacts that match what you're typing will appear and you don't have to scroll through all the names. My Evo and other HTC sense phones do this ( stock android doesn't, but you can download other dialers in the market that do). If you already knew this and just don't want the names to appear, can't help you there.
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I really, really like this phone. My ear speaker is great, although the external speaker is a little weak. Not a huge deal though, just had to select the high pitched notifications to be sure to hear them.
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I thought it was interesting that Facebook .com thought my phone was a nexus one
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i went to check this out in the store today. a few thoughts
-size is great. i compared it to my nexus one w/seidocase and it is only slightly larger... like less than a .25" larger in width and length
-weight is great. very comparable to n1 w/case
-sense 2.0 looked pretty slick.
-very fast... zero lag.
-my only stickler was the screen. i could see the "grid" dots on the display unit. is this typical of slcd?
Love it already and havent had it 5 hours yet, beats my old htc surround hands down.
This kicks the captivates ass all around, even unrooted with stock rom. Soooo glad I pulled the trigger... nice to have a decent exchange email client as part of the basic package (sorry touchdown, but the integration is a big plus... I hated the separate address books).
The more I use my phone the more I realize everything works and works well.
Have installed pretty much everything there is and it plays or runs them without a hiccup.
Obviously the only apps it will not run are the ones that require root. My plan is to do this very soon so I can take advantage of those as well.
Every single game I've installed is smooth with no lag.
Emulators work with zero issues, my plan is to try the the psx one next.
You can not measure the battery life right away, it has to get used to a few charges first. See the Desire HD forums and they will say the same.
I've made some calls and can say that it sounds great, I've tried both the loudspeaker and the ear speaker and both sound fine to me.
Obviously the small speaker will not be that loud especially at first. Still planning to use DSP Manager to see if it fixes it.
I've still to try out the gps while moving in the vehicle as well.
Build quality is very satisfying and is what's expected from HTC.
Where I had trouble getting 3G I am now getting a constant H+ according to the phone.
What else can I say I made an excellent choice and with the Sideload Wonder Machine, root, radio and custom ROMs there's room to make this phone even better with those options.
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Skype 2 video available

The latest Skype update for Android is available to everyone, but it only enables video chat on four specific handsets. Fortunately, impatient modders have gone some way to correcting this profound injustice, by creating APKs that activate video calling on other handsets too. So far we've heard of successful ports on the Samsung Galaxy S II and the HTC Sensation, Thunderbolt and EVO 4G. If you've got some other handset with Android 2.3, a little experimentation with the APK might also be worth your while. However, we just tried it on an Xperia Arc and didn't get very far: the app ran, but efforts to communicate with an Xperia Neo resulted in one-way video, a locked landscape mode and plenty of awkwardness. Let us know if you fare better -- you'll find a Thunderbolt-specific download at the DroidLife source link, and a more general APK at TechPetals.
http://blogs.skype.com/en/2011/06/smile_skype_for_android_with_v.html
Figured I would drop this in here if anyone has some know how and wants to look into it to see if there is anyway for us to have this on our phone. Doubt it though considering it requires 2.3 which seems to be the standard for google video chat and stuff, but hey, its worth a shot!!!
Found some more info. Tested and still didn't work but apparently on our device but confirmed on the SGS2. Here is the link for the guy who got it working.
http://www.villainrom.co.uk/forum/showthread.php/4849-Skype-with-Video-Support-for-Various-Devices...?p=42265#post42265
Im not familiar with knowing the ins and outs of editing an apk but this might be a start for someone who does
Probably requires GB.... I would think
yep. the official requires gb and in the list of device check. with device check removed, almost all with gingerbread can use it.
man, so much we can't do without gb. This phone should have launched with it.
skillz9669 said:
man, so much we can't do without gb. This phone should have launched with it.
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I know. WTF on that?
the only true gripe I have with android is its similarity with linux, fragmented operating system. I mean we buy these $500+ phones and a week later I find some inferior phone doing more than we are, it blows my mind sometimes!!!
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the only true gripe I have with android is its similarity with linux, fragmented operating system. I mean we buy these $500+ phones and a week later I find some inferior phone doing more than we are, it blows my mind sometimes!!!
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Yeah, one of Google's big thing at IO was that they wanted to eliminate the fragmentation, yet I haven't seen anything to indicate they're taking steps to achieve this.
Unfortunately it's one big advantage Apple has... they take a hard line position that the carrier doesn't touch the OS software, nor prevent the deployment of the updates. Not sure why Google is such a wuss when it comes to holding the carriers accountable for the timely delivery of their updates. AT&T says it's because they have to ensure a quality user experience, but comon, what AT&T customer actually believes that crap? LOL
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Yeah, one of Google's big thing at IO was that they wanted to eliminate the fragmentation, yet I haven't seen anything to indicate they're taking steps to achieve this.
Unfortunately it's one big advantage Apple has... they take a hard line position that the carrier doesn't touch the OS software, nor prevent the deployment of the updates. Not sure why Google is such a wuss when it comes to holding the carriers accountable for the timely delivery of their updates. AT&T says it's because they have to ensure a quality user experience, but comon, what AT&T customer actually believes that crap? LOL
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I work for AT&T and I can tell you that we (the pions in the store) think its crap too. The lockdowns, the non-market app bs, etc. I do hope google puts its BIG foot down one day and steps up to plate on this issue.
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I work for AT&T and I can tell you that we (the pions in the store) think its crap too. The lockdowns, the non-market app bs, etc. I do hope google puts its BIG foot down one day and steps up to plate on this issue.
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I think it'll come and come soon. Now that android is becoming the mainstream people will catch on and support the carrier who is on top of it
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I think it'll come and come soon. Now that android is becoming the mainstream people will catch on and support the carrier who is on top of it
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hey, this is gonna sound like a really dumb question and way off topic but can you tell me how your notified when someone posts. I have always been one to read through forums daily but have never gotten too good at participating, as you might tell as I have been a member for 3 years and have very little posts. I personally have to try and remember the threads I participated in and see if someone replied. This seems very redundant but I don't see a better way to be notified. Thanks in advance
Is anyone's phone dying quickly after installing this. I even tried signing out and closing the app but my phone legit drains 10% an hour on standby. So I deleted the app. Now my wifi is turning on and off and can't keep a constant connection. Help?
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cmjkxa said:
Is anyone's phone dying quickly after installing this. I even tried signing out and closing the app but my phone legit drains 10% an hour on standby. So I deleted the app. Now my wifi is turning on and off and can't keep a constant connection. Help?
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I personally have seen no change since installing it, as for the wifi thing are you rooted and running any rom of sort of just stock? I have seen some wifi issues with the roms. Don't know if maybe the app sparked the problem or what but maybe you can backup your apps and reinstall. Good luck
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Yeah, one of Google's big thing at IO was that they wanted to eliminate the fragmentation, yet I haven't seen anything to indicate they're taking steps to achieve this.
Unfortunately it's one big advantage Apple has... they take a hard line position that the carrier doesn't touch the OS software, nor prevent the deployment of the updates. Not sure why Google is such a wuss when it comes to holding the carriers accountable for the timely delivery of their updates. AT&T says it's because they have to ensure a quality user experience, but comon, what AT&T customer actually believes that crap? LOL
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The only true advantage that Apple has over Android is that they only more or less support one device. Android is spread amongst how many different devices? It's easy to put out lackluster updates to a single device, but putting out updates to 20+ different devices isn't so easy.
how are you guys even getting it to install? is it actually working?
yes please, can any one confirm that the video call on Skype is working on the infuse?
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no it is not working. installing the custom apk does give you the video call option, but if you press it, it goes into landscape to prepare for video call and then it does nothing. gingerbread is needed since it uses the frontfacing camera api.
cmjkxa said:
Is anyone's phone dying quickly after installing this. I even tried signing out and closing the app but my phone legit drains 10% an hour on standby. So I deleted the app. Now my wifi is turning on and off and can't keep a constant connection. Help?
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Yes, my phone's battery started draining in about two hours after installing Skype, so I uninstalled and things are better again now.
Even if Skype supports video on the Infuse, I don't think I will start using it unless they address the battery usage.
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hey, this is gonna sound like a really dumb question and way off topic but can you tell me how your notified when someone posts. I have always been one to read through forums daily but have never gotten too good at participating, as you might tell as I have been a member for 3 years and have very little posts. I personally have to try and remember the threads I participated in and see if someone replied. This seems very redundant but I don't see a better way to be notified. Thanks in advance
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Click "Thread Tools" at the top of the thread. Choose subscribe thread. Choose your poison.
That should set you up so you get notified.
Snehanshu said:
Yes, my phone's battery started draining in about two hours after installing Skype, so I uninstalled and things are better again now.
Even if Skype supports video on the Infuse, I don't think I will start using it unless they address the battery usage.
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Have you tried Stop Skype from Market?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1153285
apparently theres been some success with modding skype for froyo. anybody want to try out some of these builds?

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I keep finding myself thinking I could do all this on a cheap phone. What do you use your smartphone for on a daily basis?
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make myself look busy when im really not
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I keep finding myself thinking I could do all this on a cheap phone. What do you use your smartphone for on a daily basis?
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Well i have a Google Voice tied to my phone, that i use for my work line. I also have my work email tied to my phone. I also use Springpad for daily task and it syncs with my computer. I use Google docs to keep important files at my finger tips. the AD-HOC tethering is nice so i can have wireless access to my catalogs from anywhere on a table or laptop... i use mine more for business then i ever thought about with my blackberry.
stream music to my phone from my computer without having to put any music files on my SD card, tethering, wifi/wifi calling, youtube videos, flash for camera, "4G" speeds, and integrated email. didnt have any of these useful features on my previous sidekick 08 lol
Almost anything you can do with a computer or laptop I can do with my phone except its more convenient cause it fits in my pocket doesn't need to be connected to wifi and takes pictures and video so I think I would prefer my intelligent phone over my laptop anyday but of course the desktop wins cause it can run the games my Xbox360 can and it helps make things for my device lol
I think we're just one level behind where its total convenience. Right now it seems like voice recognition isn't too great outside of text messaging. I'm sure Android has a lot more to bring to the table though.
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we'll see a legitimate siri clone very soon, but even so, I regularly use the voice command- "navigate to __" to gps my way around miami. more than anything, on a personal level, my phone has made my life so much easier regarding events. My phone calendar is the only reason I'm ever where I'm supposed to be.
i think most people with smartphones who see no use in them just haven't made the effort to see how they can improve their lives. I'm not saying they are for everyone, but I truly believe they can be. You just need to see how and why.
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we'll see a legitimate siri clone very soon, but even so, I regularly use the voice command- "navigate to __" to gps my way around miami. more than anything, on a personal level, my phone has made my life so much easier regarding events. My phone calendar is the only reason I'm ever where I'm supposed to be.
i think most people with smartphones who see no use in them just haven't made the effort to see how they can improve their lives. I'm not saying they are for everyone, but I truly believe they can be. You just need to see how and why.
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informative and beautiful calendar widget is the reason why i'm using this "sense" smartphone. plus notes app also beautiful, and reader, beats, ds camera, alarm. hahaha this phone really make my life better.
darinmc said:
we'll see a legitimate siri clone very soon, but even so, I regularly use the voice command- "navigate to __" to gps my way around miami. more than anything, on a personal level, my phone has made my life so much easier regarding events. My phone calendar is the only reason I'm ever where I'm supposed to be.
i think most people with smartphones who see no use in them just haven't made the effort to see how they can improve their lives. I'm not saying they are for everyone, but I truly believe they can be. You just need to see how and why.
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I totally agree, that's why I started this thread
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They're good projectiles....Their slim design is quite aerodynamicky, the MT4G's weight gives it good stopping power. But seriously I use it for email, quick photos, some games, twitt, fb, gplus,etc...
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They're good projectiles....
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Back on topic, considering that this is my first smartphone, I find it useful, but I'm probably old school compared to many here and I've managed to live this long without a smartphone. I finally got on board not because I care to downsize my computing devices, but because I wanted a GPS-enabled device for navigation for the few times I need it. Also, a QWERTY keyboard in conjunction with Swype is a massive improvement over an alphanumeric keypad for composing texts or simply taking notes. That said, I still prefer using my desktop over my laptop over my phone, and the phone will never be a good interface for me to perform heavy text composition.
To me, what's nice is that the apps I did rarely use on my dumbphone like the calendar and calculator are much more spacious and intuitive to use now to the point where I'm willing to use them more often. It's also nice to have a specialized flashlight app and the ability to easily check my email and the weather. I really like the voice dictation and Swype inputs as well.
Also, yes, it is much harder to distract yourself with a dumbphone if should you find yourself stuck somewhere with someone/something to wait on and nothing to do. Ever since I flashed VU, I've spent more time scrolling the home screens and looking at the animations than anything else. I could easily waste time with this thing even without wireless data or Wi-Fi.
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Uh this phone kicks ass...
Why don't you name something you can't do excluding playing Angry Birds in 1080p 3D HD?
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had a very similar conversation with the House Boss shortly after we got our first Android phones, (got snookered with the Samsung Behold2, almost made us go back to regular phones) once we got the MT3G-S we both fell in love with our phones (even though I jumped on the MT4G, needed more power and screen). she loves the keyboard for typing her texts and browsing web, the fact she now has Youtube on the go for watching funny vids and vids of our nieces and nephews, the great calender, games and with Pandora and her SD card no more need for her iPod.
I combine my MT4G and my Acer Iconia A500 Tablet to make my life way easier and much much less cluttered in my 18-wheeler between GPS, calender, notepad/office programs helping me keep everything inline for work and Hulu, Netflix and the games helping entertain me when I'm stuck somewhere and getting bored, I have saved money and was able to shave weight off the crap I carry in the truck allowing more cargo (means more money). Don't really know how I did this for as long as I did before.

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Disclaimer: I am not a spokesperson for team.fluxion nor do I have any affiliation to them whatsoever. The app stated in this post is simply a public service announcement to those that enjoy/want the Windows PC experience on their Android powered device. All rights of this app goes to its respective owners.
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Have you ever wanted to get a PC quality experience on your Android powered device, then look no further! Windows XP is now on Android, well sort of. Thanks to the people in team.fluxion, who is no stranger to the development scene and has been pumping out applications since the good old windows mobile PPC days (Windows Mobile 5/6.x for the youngins reading this), as well as Windows desktop applications, we can now get a taste of Windows XP on our device, and for FREE . To save time, I will just use the description from their official Google Play page:
A legendary application for Windows Mobile Pocket PCs is back for Android as a launcher that imitates the look and feel of Microsoft Windows XP right on your Android device. It lets you explore your file system and open different file formats using default programs as assigned in your device. It also provides the common file system operations like copy, cut, paste and delete.
Short sweet and simple, right . This app is brand new (like first release new, hence the "beta" tag it's sporting) but it is amazing, and is very functional and fun for a beta release. I am running this on both my Evo 3D (qHD [540x960 resolution] screen, a bit small, but for those who are android tech savvy with some system partitions root permissions, just modify your build prop on the "ro.sf.lcd_density" line and add 40 to whatever your number is, or experiment with it different numbers. I think there's an app on the market for LCD density modification, too) and my Velocity Micro t408 cruz (its an 8 inch tablet, so no modification is really needed. I set my LCD density to 140 to make the status bar smaller though and it gives you a bit more screen real estate). Without further ado, here is the download link, completely free!
Download it here (Play Store Link) XP Mod Launcher
Oh and P.S. - They have a Windows XP boot animation that's cool too, check it out (surf their website, too) WinXP Boot Animation Android
I'm actually quite impressed. It looks and feels like the real thing.
It's missing the authentic crash every 20 minutes though.
Cheers for the share.
Regards.
buzzboy said:
I'm actually quite impressed. It looks and feels like the real thing.
It's missing the authentic crash every 20 minutes though.
Cheers for the share.
Regards.
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Same thing I said.!
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Installed this. I think it wors really well, looks awesome.
Only thing i dont like is the windows startup sound everytime i turn the screen on when phone is on silent!
safeelhd2 said:
Installed this. I think it wors really well, looks awesome.
Only thing i dont like is the windows startup sound everytime i turn the screen on when phone is on silent!
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Hmmmm that didn't happen to me.! What ROMr u running
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This is really good. If there was a way to hide the status bar, without XPMods base distorting on my kindle fire, this could fool quite a few people.
This is epic. Hope it works with CM9.
does this need a rooted phone?
Sorry for the ignorant question - but up til now with ICS being finaly an "up-to-par" (by my standards) and there actualy being hardware good enough to run it really nicely, ive always hated using android, hated the android experience completely, but now im thinking of getting my first android phone (galaxy s3) in a month or so and am wondering if i can use this kind of thing on it without rooting... im hoping not, thats the one thing i really waant out of android that i cant get on my iphone or windows phone, the really crazy apps like this without needing a jailbreak or a custom rom/interim unlock, those things make the phones very unstable in my experience and prefer to keep them stock
Wow. It's fun using a whole new type of launcher every once in a while.
Though there have been apps that I can't open but I guess it's to be expected since the launcher is still in beta stage.
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trying now
I love it.. Only problem is when I launch the app it automatically goes to landscape mode and half the screen is cut off.. I can't figure out why... Galaxy Note running The Only One From..
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does this need a rooted phone?
Sorry for the ignorant question - but up til now with ICS being finaly an "up-to-par" (by my standards) and there actualy being hardware good enough to run it really nicely, ive always hated using android, hated the android experience completely, but now im thinking of getting my first android phone (galaxy s3) in a month or so and am wondering if i can use this kind of thing on it without rooting... im hoping not, thats the one thing i really waant out of android that i cant get on my iphone or windows phone, the really crazy apps like this without needing a jailbreak or a custom rom/interim unlock, those things make the phones very unstable in my experience and prefer to keep them stock
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I'm rooted, but the app doesn't state that it needs root
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THANKS
trying now
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no probs feel free to hit the thx button lol
Intellectua1 said:
I love it.. Only problem is when I launch the app it automatically goes to landscape mode and half the screen is cut off.. I can't figure out why... Galaxy Note running The Only One From..
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The app is built to be like xp and just like pc screens it needs landscape.!
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nice launcher, so far so good.
This is really great, but tough to use on my Nexus One's Screen. Would love to have a long-press function for right click, though.
Really feels amazingly like Windows XP.
safeelhd2 said:
Installed this. I think it wors really well, looks awesome.
Only thing i dont like is the windows startup sound everytime i turn the screen on when phone is on silent!
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this is happening with me too, every time i turn the display on or o i get windows sound? lov the sound just not every time i display switch. great launcher though
This is not available for HVGA?
Wow that is cool i was fooling my gf with this app
Nice work
Would be cool if 'My Pictures' opened the gallery.
Theonewithideas said:
This is not available for HVGA?
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Ummm YMMV, I use an HVGA 3vo so I couldn't tell you
wickedankit007 said:
Wow that is cool i was fooling my gf with this app
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did it to my grandma and now she despises her iPhone lmao
scayre32 said:
Would be cool if 'My Pictures' opened the gallery.
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May be a future implementation. Email TF and see what they say.!
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dodgebizkit said:
does this need a rooted phone?
Sorry for the ignorant question - but up til now with ICS being finaly an "up-to-par" (by my standards) and there actualy being hardware good enough to run it really nicely, ive always hated using android, hated the android experience completely, but now im thinking of getting my first android phone (galaxy s3) in a month or so and am wondering if i can use this kind of thing on it without rooting... im hoping not, thats the one thing i really waant out of android that i cant get on my iphone or windows phone, the really crazy apps like this without needing a jailbreak or a custom rom/interim unlock, those things make the phones very unstable in my experience and prefer to keep them stock
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I'm not really sure by what you mean by "unstable" but the launcher does not require root. I have unrooted and launched with no problems and rooted and launched with no problems.

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