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Flash coming to Android really its confirmed

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"It's our belief that you'll see an Android-based version of Flash in the coming months," said Anup Murarka, director of technical marketing for mobile and devices at Adobe.
For those eagerly waiting to watch online videos on phone, this should bring a smile on your face. Adobe, ARM and Qualcomm have teamed-up to bring Flash to all phones running ARM11 and faster processors. Devices with at least 200 MHz processors, more than around 16 Mbytes of RAM and a "completely capable Web browser" will be able to render Web-based Flash content, Murarka said.
This was announced as part of Open Screen Project which aims to get Flash on every imaginable mobile device. Adobe will announce the project at the Max Developers Conference where it will also demonstrate Flash on an ARM smartphone.
Other partners in Open Screen Project like Samsung and NVIDIA are already working to support Flash. “NVIDIA is working with ARM and Adobe to ensure Adobe Flash technology takes full advantage of NVIDIA Tegra computer-on-a-chip solutions through open standards such as OpenGL ES 2.0,” said Michael Rayfield, GM of NVIDIA's mobile business.
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ohhh yaaahhh... few months?!?!?! should be few weeks... guess we will see.

I hope sooner than later will see it on G1. Yeah few weeks would be great.

apperently flash has already been demoed on the g1:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/17/finally-proper-banner-ads-for-android-flash-demoed-on-a-g1/

Yeah Becuase its good for Google AdSense business and without flash its faint ads.
I think Flash is already there in WinCE devices in Latest Opera 9.50 Browser of HTC Diamond. means ARM based coding is already exists its just a matter of time to port it and if Google and Adobe both Ventured into it it will be great.

good point about google adsense. and here i thought google was doing it for me

if this is going to be on the OTA update, how will 'we' rooted RC30's going to get our hands on this?.. hmmmm..i guess we can just wait for JF to modify it for us.. but this is good news! YAY FLASH!

hetaldp said:
Yeah Becuase its good for Google AdSense business and without flash its faint ads.
I think Flash is already there in WinCE devices in Latest Opera 9.50 Browser of HTC Diamond. means ARM based coding is already exists its just a matter of time to port it and if Google and Adobe both Ventured into it it will be great.
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Current WinCE devices that have flash in Opera are running Flash LITE, Adobe is bringing over Flash Player 10 to Windows Mobile, Android and Symbian http://htcsource.com/index.php/Andr...sh-for-Windows-Mobile-Android-and-others.html

Youtube clip of presentation demonstrating Flash 10 on Android
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghIGj9r3_vc

Flash is already on Android =)
Sorry had to post this!

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Flash is already on Android =)
Sorry had to post this!
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WINNER!!!

Demo video of FLASH for Android
found this on the tmobile forum...not sure if its flash or how true it is but exciting none the less
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMB8vGcrjNk
....AHHH DIS-REGARD POST I HADNT SEEN IT ALREADY POSTED HERE...

grickson said:
if this is going to be on the OTA update, how will 'we' rooted RC30's going to get our hands on this?.. hmmmm..i guess we can just wait for JF to modify it for us.. but this is good news! YAY FLASH!
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Its going to be interesting to see what is updated at the android source repository, since flash is property of adobe and not open source. We may not even have to update our phones but just the APK for the browser.

iirc the browser is considered a part of the Android software stack so most likely what will happen is an ota will update the browser to accept signed plugins. They can deliver the flash plugin with the ota update or change the current flash placeholder to let it link to an adobe download page.

So once flash is on our G1s, are they going to change the YouTube built-in app to go to the actual site, or is it still going to be m.youtube.com?
Maybe a new page that has the layout simplicities of the app, but with access to the actual site and all videos, not just m.youtube.com enabled videos?
I'm sure I'm just dreaming there, but it'd be nice

Phromik said:
So once flash is on our G1s, are they going to change the YouTube built-in app to go to the actual site, or is it still going to be m.youtube.com?
Maybe a new page that has the layout simplicities of the app, but with access to the actual site and all videos, not just m.youtube.com enabled videos?
I'm sure I'm just dreaming there, but it'd be nice
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You think they would have something for android like that... a.youtube.com or android.youtube.com
be cool to see those.

Phromik said:
So once flash is on our G1s, are they going to change the YouTube built-in app to go to the actual site, or is it still going to be m.youtube.com?
Maybe a new page that has the layout simplicities of the app, but with access to the actual site and all videos, not just m.youtube.com enabled videos?
I'm sure I'm just dreaming there, but it'd be nice
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It would be pretty cool to see a fully functional version of youtube made especially for me. I would really like to be able to log into youtube and play my playlists without having to go through the browser and open each one individually.

jashsu said:
Youtube clip of presentation demonstrating Flash 10 on Android
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghIGj9r3_vc
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MY GOD!!1!!! Google cloned Bill Gates!

Boycott Mozilla!!

i now officially call for a boycott of mozilla and their products for the discontinued development of firefox for windows mobile, the symbian version looks great from the video. these guys are complety out of their minds and they know that. so now lets teach them a lesson by decreasing their market share by going to use other browsers such as IE8,or google chrome.i have already uninstalled firefox. these guys are such malditos nacos desgraciados crétinos tarados asquerosos for this. so whos with me?

Didn't MS release of WP7 shock the phone world? They're deviating from their ageing Windows 6.5 and focusing on WP7, and Mozilla reason for delaying development is because MS hasn't released a NDK if I heard correctly. Is a boycott applicable for a free product?

im not buying that because these mal nacidos know that they can just continue to work on the wm6.x version that they've already started developing. wm7 looks like it won't need another browser according to what I've been hearing but im gonna stick with wm6.x. I also heard that they discontinued development on the android version also.

Skyfire with flash support is better anyway. The android version is rumored to be coming soon.

No way going to boycott the best PC browser just because they are not going to release browser till WP7 especially since so many mobile browsers about.......
Talk about cut your nose to spite your face

It really sucks that they stopped development on Fennec, but can you really blame them? Since Microsoft has disallowed development of applications that rival native applications, Fennec cannot be developed and released for Windows Mobile 7 (through conventional channels). Windows Mobile 7 is just on the horizon, and Windows Mobile 6.x is slowly dying.
WM6.x and earlier, the only WM platforms that Fennec will run on, will gradually slip into obscurity and obsolescence in the coming months as Windows Mobile 7 slowly replaces WM6.x. Think about it: would you waste the time of your talented developers porting to an already obsolete operating system which will become more obscure in the coming months, when you could put their talents to better use? The decision to cut off Windows Mobile may seem unfair, but it makes plenty of sense from a management standpoint, and I can't blame them. My 2 cents.

stylez said:
No way going to boycott the best PC browser just because they are not going to release browser till WP7 especially since so many mobile browsers about.......
Talk about cut your nose to spite your face
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Completely agree!
But you have an error, instead of: "the best PC browser" the right one is: "the second best PC browser"
First place is for Opera 10.50

orb3000 said:
Completely agree!
But you have an error, instead of: "the best PC browser" the right one is: "the second best PC browser"
First place is for Opera 10.50
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wrong again I like google chrome better than opera or FF it uses less RAM than both of them and its much less buggy than opera, this opera suffers the same website compatibility issues as the mobile one I've ran into many sites that didn't display properly.

Sweet, I've been in on this boycott for years! Down with Mozilla!
/passes out the pitchforks and the torches
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Fennec on winmo sucked square anyhow. And I use Safari browser. IMHO, its the best.

eric12341 said:
wrong again I like google chrome better than opera or FF it uses less RAM than both of them and its much less buggy than opera
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Exactly my words.
And a boycot would make no sense because there are so much users, they wouldn't notice any difference.
For mobile browser I would definitely go for opera 10 mobile, it works good even on devices with little memory.

stylez said:
No way going to boycott the best PC browser just because they are not going to release browser till WP7 especially since so many mobile browsers about.......
Talk about cut your nose to spite your face
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yup purely right..i love firefox

mazzarin said:
Sweet, I've been in on this boycott for years! Down with Mozilla!
/passes out the pitchforks and the torches
//posting from the fastest browser on earth, Opera 10.51
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That chart is flawed since there is no Y-Axis data to show it actually is faster, "Faster" isn't useful.

100% Agree
stylez said:
No way going to boycott the best PC browser just because they are not going to release browser till WP7 especially since so many mobile browsers about.......
Talk about cut your nose to spite your face
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This is a no brainer and I agree.
Firefox is the best PC browser so why would you want to boycott it and suffer the bloat of IE any version. Geez it only just got tabbed browsing.
Use chrome?? Yeah right, not this lifetime!
Maybe Safari, might as well go the whole hog and buy an Iphone.

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That chart is flawed since there is no Y-Axis data to show it actually is faster, "Faster" isn't useful.
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Sheesh, it's called simplicity.
http://ieblog.members.winisp.net/images/Dean_MIX10_2.png
http://service.futuremark.com/peacekeeper/results.action?key=2tLP
Can't find one for v8

LMAO Boycott Mozilla?
And I gotta add, Opera and Mozilla are the best PC browsers...
Chrome is okay.....just pretty much hate the feel of it.....
Dead thread!

I WILL NOT BOYCOTT MOZILLA. FIREFOX IS THE ****!.
HANDS DOWN, I HAVE IT RUNNING ON MY DUAL BOOT WINDOWS 7 AND MAC OS X SNOW LEOPARD.
SAFARI SUCKS!
INTERNET EXPLORER SUCKS!
MOZILLA FIREFOX THE ****!
I HAVE ENOUGH PROBLEMS WITH MY F*CK HEAD OF A COMPUTER RUNNING WINDOWS 7 AND I WOULDN'T BE DUPED INTO A WINDOWS MOBILE DEVICE.get a real phone.MY SISTER HAS ONE...SUCKS ASS TO SAY THE LEAST.
get a real phone

Any chart can give different results, but something is consistent!!

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Thing is with browsers is to some fastest will be best too others usability will be the more important factor, mine comes down to that there are certain plugins i use that are not available in Opera to which without would make my browsing experience less enjoyable.. But each to there own

what was the last build of fennec? is there any other mobile browser with adblock support?

Google pays $12.5 billion for Motorola Mobility

Good news?
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/google-pays-12-5-billion-for-mororola-mobility-20110815/

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Good news?
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/google-pays-12-5-billion-for-mororola-mobility-20110815/
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I think it will be good for new motorola's devices but I think they wouldn't do anythink for our phone because of make an update cost money and they can't win by doing this because this phone is no more for sale.

I can't decide if this matters. On the one hand, we're now two corporate restructurings removed from a company that gave a **** about the XT720 (Motorola [small **** given] > Motorola Mobility [no ****s given] > Google [patent warfare]). On the other hand Google has legendary awful customer support. It seems like a heads Sanjay wins, tails I lose situation.

i'll say it's extremely good news
this should help improve Motorola's phone to have unlocked bootloader and stock AOS, without all the bloatware they always put on it

I don't suppose we'll receive an update for an unlocked bootloader, no? Probably not because it seems Motorola will continue to operate separately from Google

tharan.a said:
I don't suppose we'll receive an update for an unlocked bootloader, no? Probably not because it seems Motorola will continue to operate separately from Google
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I've never seen any indication that Google disapproves of the bootloader lock. They do disapprove of the lack of updates, but I'm sure we missed the boat on that.

Mioze7Ae said:
I've never seen any indication that Google disapproves of the bootloader lock. They do disapprove of the lack of updates, but I'm sure we missed the boat on that.
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Yes, couldn't have said it better myself. Most phones have support that barely lasts 2 years. I think this is the end of the XT720. On the brighter side, this will help google fight of apple and microsoft which were just trying to dominate the market with the patents. I see this as a good move for android/opensource as a whole!

With the capability to manufacture its own hardware, Google will be better equipped to take on the iPhone. That should be good.

Google World Domination Coming soon to a world near you.
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Google needs Motorola to take over your living room
Google Evil Agenda
My original prediction:
Posted by Urgo at December 16, 2004 11:31 PM
"Don't Be Evil?" video - beta version
Google Xistence
For the past year now I've been predicting that within the next ten Google will 'take over the world'. Most people I tell this two think I'm crazy and this will never happen saying that Google is the best company ever and they will never turn evil. I tend to disagree.
Let me take just a few minutes to explain why I think this, and then at the bottom of this entry is a link to a flash video I found today with someone else thinking the same thing.
Facts - Google owns:
- Google is the most used search engine
- Gmail, while maybe not the most used email provider (maybe it is now?) it is definitely the most highly desired
- Orkut, while mostly blown over now is still a thriving social network site
- Google News is viewed as a #1 news site for many people
- Blogger is one of the leading blog sites and blogs are all over the news these days
- Keyhole offers a satalite imageing service
- Google Desktop Search
- Google Adsense - probably the most widly used advertising on the web these days (used even on this website although I haven't seen any return yet)
- And much much more, plus all the things normal people like myself have come up with such as the random google image in the right sidebar.
My point to all of this is the following:
Through GMail Google stores and never deletes your email. They catalog it and can do a LOT with that data. With time google can write robots to parse the data to find out every bit of data about you, who you know, what you talk about, etc. Gmail bundled with Orkut Google really has a solid grip on your social network with more detail and structure than email alone. Google knows who [email protected] really is, where he lives, what his passtimes are, etc and can link it up with your email conversations. Now to get even further into your life they have the Google Desktop Search which has already been called on being invasive bypassing security on people's PC's and cataloging files that it shouldn't.
Step back for a second, Google now knows who you know, what you talk about, details about every person, everything you say on your computer, what files you have, what is in each file, basically all of your Digital Data. Oh, also if you use the google search bar (IE plug-in) in advanced mode (default.. plus ohh! I want advanced features....) they track every webpage you go, although the desktop search tool does that as well. 0wned.
Next we start to see Google's current revenue. Blogs, Keyhole, Adsense. Wow, if the inflated stock doesn't make them enough $$$ then this sure helps. Although I don't believe Google charges for blogger right now they are setting themselves up for it in the future if blogging ever takes off as a legitimate news source... News.. Google news is one of the most used news services to gather news from many sources, sorted automatically for relevance...
Now, just think if Google DID want to turn evil (assuming they aren't already) how much of the market they already own. In the 90's people switched search engines all the time, but moving email providers, etc is a lot harder to do. In a few more years they'll have people so dependant on them and their products just like Microsoft people will be stuck with Google for better or.. worse.
More info on Google being evil is at google-watch.
Wow, well this was supposed to be a very short blog entry promoting a clip I saw today but I had to get my rant over with. Other then the Google-watch site that’s been around for a while, today on mefi I stumbled into a 10? min flash movie someone made giving a detailed rundown of a possible scenario that Google might take in the coming years towards world domination. I personally haven't come up with a scenario myself, and I am uncertain if this one is how its going to happen, but I was happy to see that others feel the same way as I do, that within the next ten years Google will takeover the world, or in this movie, the media forcing the New York Times offline.
Please take the time to watch this movie, and ignore the somewhat cheesiness of it. I really think they are being insightful and this COULD happen.
Flash Movie Of How Google Will Take Over The World
Google Plans To Kill Web In Internet Takeover Agenda
Google's Motorola Takeover Bid To Draw Antitrust Scrutiny, Analysts Say

I forgot that Motorola Mobility makes cable-top boxes. That's a plus for GoogleTV which I think is also Android based? Or is that Chrome based? I forget.

Today's android news keeps getting more and more interesting. First google and moto and now Cyanogen and Samsung.
"Steve Kondik, better known as Cyanogen, the father of CyanogenMod, has posted an interesting update to his professional life on his Facebook page. Steve, who has founded the largest family of custom Android ROMs on the planet, has just joined Samsung Mobile to presumably work on Android-related goodies for one of world's largest electronics manufacturers." -Android Police
(Can't post links yet, check Android Police)
Two developments which hopefully do nothing but improve the quality of the Android OS.

Good..Now Google control both software and hardware can make better opened source devices...stupid moto is dying , may google takes over and unlock all the moto build mobile deveice bootloaders

I was thrilled when reading about it. One of the main problems is that Moto seems to fail to optimize their hardware with the software. Meaning that, despite having powerful specs in several of their phones, it stills ends up being laggy and buggy. How is it that the Nexus S with its single core can outlag the Atrix? or even the Nexus One? resolution, graphics and processor needs to be better developed for usage.
Other than the bloatware, I find the Motorola developers really fail to take advantage of the specs and integrating it with Android.
Hopefully, the Moto and Google developers can get together and finally fix this problem. Specs mean nothing if the phone can't use it efficiently.
I'm pretty sure everyone will celebrate if Moto announces that they are switching to google stock, and turning motoblur into only widget apps, instead of a launcher apk. It still boggles my mind how companies can continue to push such applications, and this applies to Sony Ericcsons terrible Timescape app. it was already a trainwreck on the X10.

IOS is 2 times more reactive Than Android

Hello, this video shows that Android is two times less reactive than IOS.
http://youtu.be/bNc3yiz0vUo
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Does anyone know if Google plans to correct this?
Tank's

dreeck said:
Hello, this video shows that Android is two times less reactive than IOS.
http://youtu.be/bNc3yiz0vUo
Does anyone know if Google plans to correct this?
Tank's
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From the video, it appears that this relates to a particular app (mini piano), so in that case, I'm not sure why it's Google's responsibility to improve the responsiveness of a third party piece of software.
That said, there are some very basic reasons for why iOS will invariably be smoother and more responsive than Android almost 100% of the time.
Put simply, iOS and Android both began their respective development at totally different times. Android started development during a time when the market was saturated with keyboard-centric devices like Blackberry's and such. There wasn't a whole lot of touch-screen proliferation, and even then, those devices with touch screens were still very proprietary and basically none of them offered multi-touch. As such, Android was never originally designed for multi-touch screens; that kind of functionality is more of an evolutionary adaptation than anything else really. Android's core design principles focus on multi-tasking and cloud service connectivity in order to maximize productivity. That's why Android has always more effortlessly been good at both of those things.
iOS on the other hand was designed from ground up to be used on a multi-touch user interface. As such, iOS products have been more focused on being UI-centric, while other functions take a lower priority. Basically, when the user interacts with the screen of an iOS device, the system will drop everything it's doing (if need be) just to make sure that the UI runs smoothly. For example, say you try to interact with a webpage as it's loading on an iOS device. The device will actually stop loading the page, as long as you are touching the device to interact with it. As soon as you're no longer touching it, the page will continue to load. This is also why multi-tasking was more of an afterthought than a core principle with iOS. Apple could have easily implemented some form of multi-tasking right with their first iPhone, but considering the resource limitations at the time, that would have come at the cost of an interface that wouldn't have been as smooth or responsive.
So, to sum up:
Generally speaking, iOS will almost ALWAYS have a smoother and more responsive touch interface than Android has (unless Google basically rebuilds Android for touch screens from ground up).
That said, Android will almost ALWAYS be a better at multi-tasking and integrating cloud services than iOS (unless Apple decides to basically rebuild iOS from ground up with a bigger focus on those services).
Which is better than the other? Well, that's up to you really; it's totally subjective. If you want a simple to use UI which is smooth and responsive, then maybe iOS is better suited for you. If a more diverse ecosystem with endless customization options and very powerful multi-tasking beasts are important enough that you can accept a reasonable cost in the UI smoothness, then Android is your best bet.

thank you for taking the time to respond
for this video, I tried a dozen pianos Android and I chose the one with the least latency.
The latency of Android is a real handicap. I am shocked that no one cares.
For my part I think this problem is caused by drivers
I know this is not comparable, but on PC there is ASIO4All, a pilot able to remove this latency (but just for Audio).
I have a Galaxy Note and I hope that Google will improve this problem.

The reason Google hasn't fixed this issue is because in order to fix this issue the Android UI would have to be completely reprogrammed to accommodate a fix. If they reprogram in that manner then it would basically make every device after the reprogram a legacy device and every application would have to be rewritten.
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"If they reprogram in that manner then it would basically make every device after the reprogram a legacy device and every application would have to be rewritten."
So if I understand it, Android will stay soft?
I am shocked to hear that. If true, I would not give much of its future.
Some applications are unusable with this latency, Apple can rest wisely. this is sad.

I read about it in an article from an interview with an ex Google employee. He said that a complete rewrite of the OS would have to take place
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Thank you for this information.
But in this article it says that ICS has undergone a complete rewrite. What do you think ?
http://www.brucebnews.com/2011/10/new-iphone-new-android-phones-new-windows-phones/

you should read record this video using a galaxy nexus. There is a lot less latency than you show on your video using 'mini piano lite '

It is impossible that you have touched an iPhone, otherwise you would not say that.
Everything I touch on my note have latency compared to the iPhone. And whatever the rom flashed.
To prove that I am not the only one to rave :
http://www.musiquetactile.fr/android-is-far-behind-ios/

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The best thing to do here is most likely just citing the landing page:
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The cool thing is that all communication is categorized by rooms - the chat rooms. Plenty exist by default, but everyone may make new ones.
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To the original list.
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Leaving this aside, we also seek freaked-out beta-testers "early adapters" who would like to test metahill or even get involved.
This project is now online since a few month and keeps running quite stable, yet we need waaaay more users for the network to reach its full potential!
What is _your_ top-feature of metahill?
Messages are (if you choose so) logged for three days and there is a real bunch smilies and easter-eggs. Awwr, I like easter-eggs.
Yet my favorite feature is that I can share images so easily. Drag'n'Drop (or CTRL-C/V) your picture into the browser and the others will see it. Dude, it can't be easier . Problem reporting is a dream.
Metahill for (Web)Developers
One thing at the beginning: The developer page can be found at http://d.metahill.com.
What's planned are Android and iOS apps of Metahill.
You can embed Metahill as a client within your websites using iframes.
For instance to comment live-streams, let's play's or just to offer free live-support on your website.
To the "Embedding Metahill" Blog-Entry.
Final words and links
For updates you can surely reach us at...
Our Blog: Metahill Blog | Stay on top of the Metahill.
Facebook: Metahill Community
Twitter: @metahill_com
Google+: Metahill
I hope we will meet there too and look forward!
so long,
Michael

Why don't you support at least IE10? I'm browsing from a windows 8 tablet, and I can't even get to a landing page? Nice.
BTW: I really like XNA too.

We support Chrome, FF, Safari and Opera. IE still does not meet our standards, nor does it meet state-of-the-art web standards. The IE10 is at the technological level of Chrome 16. The current Chrome version is 29 and 30 is just about to come out. I strongly encourage you to use one of the four above browser if it is possible.
That is the reason why we both confidentially and intentionally do not (and never will) support the Internet Explorer.

countryqt30 said:
That is the reason why we both confidentially and intentionally do not (and never will) support the Internet Explorer.
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That's great, but that "never will" tells me that this comes at least in part from an ideological bias, and not purely a technical obstacle. I was going to ask which particular features are you using that are not supported in IE10, but I suspect it doesn't really matter.
Anyway, best luck in your project, and I hope that you'll keep your cool and be pragmatic when tackling many of the challenges that lie ahead in your path.

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That's great, but that "never will" tells me that this comes at least in part from an ideological bias, and not purely a technical obstacle. I was going to ask which particular features are you using that are not supported in IE10, but I suspect it doesn't really matter.
Anyway, best luck in your project, and I hope that you'll keep your cool and be pragmatic when tackling many of the challenges that lie ahead in your path.
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Thank you, sir! The technical issues lie in CSS3 and HTML5 support. We use many of the features that just came out a few months ago to get the most out of the current web. Using the latest technologies like WebSockets over here improves the speed dramatically. We tested a lot with IE yet to make it work properly there much extra work would currently be required. Adding numerous exceptions to the code will impair the user experience of the users who use one of the four favorited browsers.

Yesterday we had a little re-design. I hope you like it!
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Once again many little things have been improved.
The focus has been set to practical computer science topics, such as various programming languages and platforms.
Examples are the new rooms "C++" and "Android".