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So I'm getting the itch to get a new phone. I've currently got a Cliq that I've rooted and customized as I like it so I don't NEED a new phone. I just want one.
I'm with T-Mobile and my wife just recently got the Vibrant. In messing around with it, I think that without the Touch wiz, I'd be really happy with it. Which leads me to the Nexus S. The only reservation I have about the Nexus is the lack of SD card since I carry a ton of music with me for flights. It's not a deal breaker by any means, but it does make me pause.
Does anyone know of any new phones that may be coming out within the next 3-4 months that may be better than the Nexus S?
Thanks
There is always something better around the corner...
But the main advantage to getting a stock Google Phone is that you will get OS updates much faster then everyone else with android skinned devices.
If you like android this is an excellent buy.
Yeah, I know that is a huge advantage to the Nexus line, but I also know that if there is a great phone out there, people will root it and develop for it.
Like I said, I don't "need" a new phone, and the only thing making me think twice is the lack of SD card for music and movie space. (I travel a lot so the less electronics I have to pack the better.) I'm just curious if it would be better for me to wait to buy one in a few months or take the plunge Thursday.
The thing about the Nexus S is that it's future proof, by that I mean so many phones out there will only get 2 updates and thats it. With the Nexus S you could keep it as long as you want because you know your going to continually get updates directly from Google.
Too many people pay attention to wether or not there is better hardware on the horizon when they really should pay attention to whether their software will continue to be updated and keep the device alive and youthful.
Google LG Star benchmarks
This will be the first true Dual-core proc phone and it blows everything away in the benchmarks.
Beatle405 said:
So I'm getting the itch to get a new phone. I've currently got a Cliq that I've rooted and customized as I like it so I don't NEED a new phone. I just want one.
I'm with T-Mobile and my wife just recently got the Vibrant. In messing around with it, I think that without the Touch wiz, I'd be really happy with it. Which leads me to the Nexus S. The only reservation I have about the Nexus is the lack of SD card since I carry a ton of music with me for flights. It's not a deal breaker by any means, but it does make me pause.
Does anyone know of any new phones that may be coming out within the next 3-4 months that may be better than the Nexus S?
Thanks
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Wait till CES in January (6-9), there will be tons of new Android devices announced.
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Google LG Star benchmarks
This will be the first true Dual-core proc phone and it blows everything away in the benchmarks.
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Who truly needs a dual core cellphone though, honestly most people dont even need a dual core PC
To answer your actual question, the only two that have *strong* rumors that I've heard of, are the Evo Shift and the Playstation phone. As for the Shift, the current rumors don't put its specs as all that impressive (no front camera and snapdragon CPU). Supposedly we'll hear about the Playstation phone in February. I've read that its display is supposed to rival the iPhone 4's, whatever that is. In addition, there is a not so strong rumor that Samsung's next flagship will be in Q1. Which should definitely be better than the Nexus S in specs. Motorola is supposed to unveil some new hotness at CES. Probably actually launched late Q1 or after.
My guess is if you want a phone that clearly blows away the Nexus S, you'll be waiting until Q2 or Q3 of next year.
basically it comes down to this.
If your a t-mobile customer and are not going to leave anytime soon, then the Nexus S is the best phone for you.
If you don't mind leaving t-mobile, then wait because in 4-6 months verizon and sprint will probably both get dual core phones but it'll probably be 12 months for T-Mobile to get off their ass and get one. outside of the galaxy s 2, but thats touchwiz.
Also if you just want a stock android phone, then go for it as well because there won't be another one for a while.
Q2 or Q3 may be too long for me. I've read of the Playstation phone and it seems like it may be pretty cool, but I just don't know if I want to wait that long. Is it going to be unlocked to all carriers? I am in a 2 year contract with T-Mobile due to getting my wife a new phone, leaving is pretty much not an option.
More than likely my desire for a new phone will overtake my ability to wait and I'll be at a Best Buy Thursay morning before work.
Any chance they will add an SD card to the Nexus S in the near future???
Beatle405 said:
Q2 or Q3 may be too long for me. I've read of the Playstation phone and it seems like it may be pretty cool, but I just don't know if I want to wait that long. Is it going to be unlocked to all carriers? I am in a 2 year contract with T-Mobile due to getting my wife a new phone, leaving is pretty much not an option.
More than likely my desire for a new phone will overtake my ability to wait and I'll be at a Best Buy Thursay morning before work.
Any chance they will add an SD card to the Nexus S in the near future???
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no idea how the playstation phone carrier wise is going to work, hopefully it will be all carriers, but who knows.
Unfortountly it's safe to say that they will not be adding in an SD slot to the Nexus S. Between tons of apps to stream music and video, and the 13GB of storage that acts like an SD, it should be enough.
You could always buy the Nexus S then return it before the 30 days if they announce promising phones during CES. I'll be working the registration desk at CES so hopefully I have time to look around to play around with all the new phones and gagdets.
Beatle405 said:
So I'm getting the itch to get a new phone. I've currently got a Cliq that I've rooted and customized as I like it so I don't NEED a new phone. I just want one.
I'm with T-Mobile and my wife just recently got the Vibrant. In messing around with it, I think that without the Touch wiz, I'd be really happy with it. Which leads me to the Nexus S. The only reservation I have about the Nexus is the lack of SD card since I carry a ton of music with me for flights. It's not a deal breaker by any means, but it does make me pause.
Does anyone know of any new phones that may be coming out within the next 3-4 months that may be better than the Nexus S?
Thanks
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Within the next 3-4 months? Hmm.
And also, better? They may be competitors, depending on how you look at it.
There's the LG Star, Motorola Olympus, PlayStation Phone, Evo Shift, and possible Galaxy S 2. Not all of these are confirmed for next '3-4 months' and even then, they might not even be "better".
Sure, the LG Star packs a Tegra 2. Which, in all honesty, has a GPU which barely tops the Hummingbird. Tegra 2 is nothing to be too excited about. If you want a dual core, you want the dual core Snapdragon or the Orion. The Orion will most likely be the only one paired with a gorgeous Super Amoled which is unmatched but this is also preference. Even then, these may not be out for over 4 months.
Also you need to consider software. Generally, nothing runs faster than AOSP. Nor is as open nor fast to get updated. The Nexus One STILL holds its ground merely because it has Froyo when Galaxy S phones still don't. It may not be as powerful as fast, and it may be sluggish, but it's still "ahead" in a sense. This will probably be the case with the Nexus S and Honeycomb, with the exception that this thing has a friggin Hummingbird, which is theoretically capable of running Quake 3 Arena at 90fps with the 56 fps limit unlocked.
Don't get me wrong though, the Tegra 2 isn't BAD. But it isn't worth jumping the gun over a Hummingbird when the Snapdragon and Orion are around the corner to the Tegra 2. Tegra 2 and Hummingbird is like an 'either, or'. Don't let the Tegra 2 be your deciding factor. It's all about the carrier, the way the phone feels to you, and just personal preference in general. If you think the LG Star is hot, then that's what you should get. If you think the Nexus S is hot, then that's what you should get. They will probably perform about equal.
ap3604 said:
The thing about the Nexus S is that it's future proof, by that I mean so many phones out there will only get 2 updates and thats it. With the Nexus S you could keep it as long as you want because you know your going to continually get updates directly from Google.
Too many people pay attention to wether or not there is better hardware on the horizon when they really should pay attention to whether their software will continue to be updated and keep the device alive and youthful.
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Couldn't have said it better.
siberslug said:
Google LG Star benchmarks
This will be the first true Dual-core proc phone and it blows everything away in the benchmarks.
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Benchmarks shmenchmarks. My Nexus One stock outbenchmarks my Vibrant stock 2.2 in both Quadrant and Linpack but the Vibrant is way faster and way smoother. WAYYYY.
blix247 said:
To answer your actual question, the only two that have *strong* rumors that I've heard of, are the Evo Shift and the Playstation phone. As for the Shift, the current rumors don't put its specs as all that impressive (no front camera and snapdragon CPU). Supposedly we'll hear about the Playstation phone in February. I've read that its display is supposed to rival the iPhone 4's, whatever that is. In addition, there is a not so strong rumor that Samsung's next flagship will be in Q1. Which should definitely be better than the Nexus S in specs. Motorola is supposed to unveil some new hotness at CES. Probably actually launched late Q1 or after.
My guess is if you want a phone that clearly blows away the Nexus S, you'll be waiting until Q2 or Q3 of next year.
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The thing about the PlayStation Phone is that well, it's clunky and huge, and potentially ugly.
I'll tell everyone a secret android is all about software so even if someone puts out a quadcore phone that still won't let it get the newest updates any faster. After 2 years of owning stock android phones I have read thousands of posts of people complaining about why their super phone has yet to get the latest update. Even nexus users had a thread that was 5000 posts of them yelling at Google because 2.2 was a month late.
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siberslug said:
Google LG Star benchmarks
This will be the first true Dual-core proc phone and it blows everything away in the benchmarks.
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The only problem is that Android isn't built and optimized (yet) for more than one core. The dual core isn't going to be making a huge impact probably for another six months or more. If you are looking for a phone now, it sounds like the Nexus S is it.
I think this thread convinced me finally to get the NS
Are you guys sure you want a dual core phone? Because, you know, there are already rumors of a quad core phone coming out in 2012 or whatever. Might as well wait for it.
I'm on TMobile... I won't be waiting around. I'm grateful this phone is releasing because after that you got the MT4G's childish face looking you in the eye. And who knows how soon TMO will drop us another gem that competes w/ the NS.
siberslug said:
Google LG Star benchmarks
This will be the first true Dual-core proc phone and it blows everything away in the benchmarks.
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42fps nenamark + 67 fps neocore @ lg star... 1-8fps more for tegra in comparsion to hummingbird is way less then i thought and not worth an upgrade (yet) .... the difference between snapdragon and hunmingbird is much bigger regarding the gpu
Edit: getting 47.1fps on my sgs in nenamark... 59fps at neocore(seems to be limited to 59...) sooo where's the point in tegra2 anyway?
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Hey mklgee, you mentioned buying the Nexus S and then returning within 30 days. Is this an option Best Buy does with smartphones? If so, that is an interesting idea if something does pop up soon after the Nexus release.
After reading these discussions, I think I will just go ahead and get the Nexus S on Thursday. I do wish it had an SD card though. I currently have a 16gb SD card in my Cliq that is filled with music, pics, and app info. I just hope a phone doesn't come out say in April that is so much better to make me remourseful.
Thanks for the discussion points guys.
Beatle405 said:
Hey mklgee, you mentioned buying the Nexus S and then returning within 30 days. Is this an option Best Buy does with smartphones? If so, that is an interesting idea if something does pop up soon after the Nexus release.
After reading these discussions, I think I will just go ahead and get the Nexus S on Thursday. I do wish it had an SD card though. I currently have a 16gb SD card in my Cliq that is filled with music, pics, and app info. I just hope a phone doesn't come out say in April that is so much better to make me remourseful.
Thanks for the discussion points guys.
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Most stores have 30 day return policies generally. They may charge restocking fees. Look it up
There will be new phones announced at CES coming this January. Will you be loyal to your Nexus S after seeing all the second generation phones? In example the dual-core processors, the new 4g headsets, honeycomb tablets, and etc.
I still would want to get one, yet the thing I don't know after I would still want to.
Thanks.
Yes, I will have this phone until the next Nexus device.
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No I am going to keep my nexus s for at least a year.
Jesus not this **** again............
Can we please please please stop this
Be right back, let me get in my time machine...
Can we get the mod to ban anyone else that starts a post with a totally negative feel. There can be nothing positive or constructive about a needless post like this... The phone is quality, we are very happy, now you have your answer;/
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Whoa sorry for the thread. I was just wondering. I did not know that everyone one you would get offended....
This is something positive for the nexus makes you say that you wont give it up.
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Alopez_45 said:
Whoa sorry for the thread. I was just wondering. I did not know that everyone one you would get offended....
This is something positive for the nexus makes you say that your give it up....
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Largely just bad timing, mate. We had a string of trolls roll through here lately making threads along the lines of yours. Plus this topic in general has been discussed to death in a number of really, really great threads.
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truth is, nexus s came very late. to an end of an era. nexus S, desire HD, desire Z. all of those are very best. but the very best of old technology.
new phones coming up. some early Jan, some in mid of next year and some at the end of next year. this is very typical.
the smart thing is to know what do YOU really need ?
people who bought the nexus S didnt buy it for its super power. Nexus S isnt the most powerful phone . hell desire HD has more ram in it. they only bought this phone because they are sick of lag fixing, waiting for months and months to get a decent firmware update. Samsung / Sony ericsson / HTC are **** when it comes to updating their firmware " specially Sony, f**k you Sony with your 1.6 firmware on a 2010 phone and waiting till the end of 2010 to finally get 2.1
The people here don't want this. they bought an android for their software not hardware. as far as i can tell. i dont know one game or application that doesnt run super smooth on desire HD/ Nexus S. till the new games/Apps starts to lag and perform bad on these devices, then its the day people should start looking for new phone.
if you are already a nexus S owner, then its stupid to waste your money on a new device that you wont get advantage from it software side. UNLESS there is a hardware feature you wanted on the phone. like for the example the new LG phone has HDMI out and 1080p Video recording. if YOU need that, then yeah the phone is good. BUT if you buy the phone thinking software wise the phone is better, then you are wrong and wasting money.
I donot see another Stock android experience coming any time soon..and personally having a dual core phone means nothing if you are running outdated software
ll_l_x_l_ll said:
truth is, nexus s came very late. to an end of an era. nexus S, desire HD, desire Z. all of those are very best. but the very best of old technology.
new phones coming up. some early Jan, some in mid of next year and some at the end of next year. this is very typical.
the smart thing is to know what do YOU really need ?
people who bought the nexus S didnt buy it for its super power. Nexus S isnt the most powerful phone . hell desire HD has more ram in it. they only bought this phone because they are sick of lag fixing, waiting for months and months to get a decent firmware update. Samsung / Sony ericsson / HTC are **** when it comes to updating their firmware " specially Sony, f**k you Sony with your 1.6 firmware on a 2010 phone and waiting till the end of 2010 to finally get 2.1
The people here don't want this. they bought an android for their software not hardware. as far as i can tell. i dont know one game or application that doesnt run super smooth on desire HD/ Nexus S. till the new games/Apps starts to lag and perform bad on these devices, then its the day people should start looking for new phone.
if you are already a nexus S owner, then its stupid to waste your money on a new device that you wont get advantage from it software side. UNLESS there is a hardware feature you wanted on the phone. like for the example the new LG phone has HDMI out and 1080p Video recording. if YOU need that, then yeah the phone is good. BUT if you buy the phone thinking software wise the phone is better, then you are wrong and wasting money.
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Actually, it is the most powerful phone atm. 768MB RAM isn't power. 90 million triangles on stock Gingerbread is power. Not that the Desire HD isn't super fast either. Just the Hummingbird is currently unmatched except for the Tegra2 which hasn't truly debuted yet and isn't necesarily "better".
Tmobile has to be getting something great for me to even begin to decide
until we all stop replying to this kine of threads and non-sense posts, this is going to continue on and on... Just ignore and ignore as I been doing, until we get some good moderator on this Nexus S area.
I just want T-Mobile to get better coverage
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If Verizon announces a Galaxy S type device (ie., SAMOLED screen that's 4" or 4.3", with a top end CPU and GPU, and the large 1GB ROM space for apps) with Gingerbread, and due out by March, I am all over it and the Nexus S will go back to Best Buy. If it's not LTE, I'd still consider it, but only because I just am not 100% happy with T-Mobile and AT&T service, and really would like a Verizon network device.
To those griping about "not another thread like this"...do everyone a favor and give the thread a 1-star rating and DON'T RESPOND. The bad threads will sink to the last pages of the forum and you won't have to see them. Keep responding with pointless "stop this kind of posts" posts and they'll just keep bubbling up to the top.
Along those lines, it would sure be nice if XDA had an IGNORE THIS THREAD feature to permanently keep bad threads out of your sight. I've asked/suggested for that feature in the general forum area, but no interest or responses.
ll_l_x_l_ll said:
truth is, nexus s came very late. to an end of an era. nexus S, desire HD, desire Z. all of those are very best. but the very best of old technology.
new phones coming up. some early Jan, some in mid of next year and some at the end of next year. this is very typical.
the smart thing is to know what do YOU really need ?
people who bought the nexus S didnt buy it for its super power. Nexus S isnt the most powerful phone . hell desire HD has more ram in it. they only bought this phone because they are sick of lag fixing, waiting for months and months to get a decent firmware update. Samsung / Sony ericsson / HTC are **** when it comes to updating their firmware " specially Sony, f**k you Sony with your 1.6 firmware on a 2010 phone and waiting till the end of 2010 to finally get 2.1
The people here don't want this. they bought an android for their software not hardware. as far as i can tell. i dont know one game or application that doesnt run super smooth on desire HD/ Nexus S. till the new games/Apps starts to lag and perform bad on these devices, then its the day people should start looking for new phone.
if you are already a nexus S owner, then its stupid to waste your money on a new device that you wont get advantage from it software side. UNLESS there is a hardware feature you wanted on the phone. like for the example the new LG phone has HDMI out and 1080p Video recording. if YOU need that, then yeah the phone is good. BUT if you buy the phone thinking software wise the phone is better, then you are wrong and wasting money.
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GREAT Post ;-)
slowz3r said:
and personally having a dual core phone means nothing if you are running outdated software
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especially since gingerbread isnt supporting dual core processors as of yet. Can you imaging a sweet sweet captivate 2 with touchwiz 7 running dual core on 2.1? I can.(Sarcasm)
I'd keep NS especially I have several top phones (N900, nexus one, MT4, NS) already.
do you guys think it would be a good idea to get a nexus prime?
Yes
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yup, if it comes in AWS
So finally a phone you guys think is worth switching to?
kharnage said:
So finally a phone you guys think is worth switching to?
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Only if T-Mobile isn't cut out of the loop again and that curve on the screen isn't so insanely exaggerated as the teaser makes it appear to be.
JaiaV said:
Only if T-Mobile isn't cut out of the loop again
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Nexus 1 and the Nexus S launched with T-Mobile and AWS before anyone else, not sure how they got "cut out of the loop"
mr mystery said:
Nexus 1 and the Nexus S launched with T-Mobile and AWS before anyone else, not sure how they got "cut out of the loop"
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The Nexus S 4G (which wasn't really different), so I did do a bit of keyboard-in-mouth, for a minute there I did forget the Nexus S came out on T-Mobile first. Tired.
I came from the Nexus One, bought the G2x off-contract, specically to be able to pick up the Nexus Prime at a discount.
I just hope the nexus prime won't disappoint. Rumors on specs are mixed. The qualcomm chips in the Tmo SG2 and Amaze are meh. Also 5mp camera is meh.... other specs say it'll have the Exynos chipset and 8mp cam. Some say Verizon will get it first others say T-Mobile. Verizon has the Droid Prime with similar specs already and aren't ones to keep it clean with Android.
Either way, if the specs are worthwhile over the G2x, I'll grab it.
Best solution for me personally would be Verizon with sweet specs as my old work blackberry needs upgraded and I set up our new exchange to work properly so my company is allowing Android sets now... meaning I can kill my $70 personal T-Mobile line, sell my G2x and profit.
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I honestly don't think it's that much of an upgrade of our G2x's. Our phone is still up to par with alot of the phones out there now.. Once we get ICS on this thing, we should be fine.
Will it work on at&t?
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Yeah. I think it'll get more development support and the devs won't have to worry about nvidia giving up the source codes.
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The Prime looks nice but I plan on holding onto my G2x until the phone hits at least the one year mark if not more to see what's coming next spring and summer. Quad core phones anyone?
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I know everyone wants the latest and greatest, but sometimes it's a bit overkill. Unless you have a good job with 500+ bucks to throw I don't see why we should be running to get the Prime when you already have a Tegra 2 Dual core device. Nothing can even tough this device yet.
It'd be hard for me to dump my dual core device for another dual core. At this point might as well wait for whatever the next gen quads come out next year. And once that happens, I don't even know what we'd do with a quad core lol.
Well... We'd buy more batteries, of course.
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Well... We'd buy more batteries, of course.
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Lol, I seriously think they should just take a break on the progression of processors, screens, GPU's, etc. and use that time and man power in advancing the technology of battery's... That's literally the only Achilles heel that even the best smartphone's have these days.
At this point, I'd rather have the creation of a 5,000 mAH battery with out changing it's size than a quad core processor.
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Lol, I seriously think they should just take a break on the progression of processors, screens, GPU's, etc. and use that time and man power in advancing the technology of battery's... That's literally the only Achilles heel that even the best smartphone's have these days.
At this point, I'd rather have the creation of a 5,000 mAH battery with out changing it's size than a quad core processor.
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Agreed ten fold. I'm waiting til the Nexus Double Prime before I plan to upgrade. This phone is doing just fine, and has a very nice set of developers working on it for us.
If they did make quad core phones, I bet the battery life would be at least 20% worse than now. When I'm not even getting super amazing battery life to begin with, it might be a problem.
FatalityBoyZahy said:
I honestly don't think it's that much of an upgrade of our G2x's. Our phone is still up to par with alot of the phones out there now.. Once we get ICS on this thing, we should be fine.
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Yeah, main difference between the two will be updates. Something the G2X will probably never officially see. After the half ass 2.3 update we got I'm pretty much over it.
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I really don't see the point of quad core phones; unless Google does something unbelievable with Jelly Bean that needs an insane amount of processing, nothing a smartphone does needs that much. Hell, dual core isn't even that necessary unless you run a lot of 3D stuff.
There is such a thing as overkill people. I'd like to see phone manufactorers declare the smartphone as it exists now finished and start working on some new innovations that would make better hardware necessary. 3D screen ala Nintendo 3DS with FFC capable of eye-tracking to orient the 3D so you see it at any angle?
While I agree that the G2x can hold its own, I do miss owning a nexus device. My friend still has his Nexus One and running official software we can only get via custom roms.
My reasoning to grabbing the Nexus Prime IF if launches on Verizon is so my work can pay for it. Unfortunately I heard Verizon is launching the Galaxy Prime.... which is similar but not the nexus prime backed by Google.
Well just have to wait until Tuesday. All the rumors running around its hard to make any reasonable decision.
If Verizon gets gimped on Google support then I'll keep my G2x for a long while.
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Agreed. My work is on sprint and I am waiting to see if it launches on sprint. If it does, I'll pick it up. If not, either sii or stay on g2x. It looks to me that the prime is going to launch on everyone but sprint.
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Did we at T-Mobile get gipped or what?
http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-one-s/#specs
BUT THEN THERE IS THIS SPECULATION:
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/0...to-offer-htc-one-x-as-g4x-with-stock-android/
Then ruined by this:
http://www.htc.com/us/products/htconex-att
But then there is the One XL???
http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-one-xl/#specs
Also check this S*#* out:
http://htcdev.com/bootloader/
HTC One X (dual core) hands on video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSozJWow1wk
Would you still pick up the One S with the dual core, and smaller lower res screen?
What provider will receive the One XL?
my guess is the XL will go to ATT and i dont think the One S will by pegged as the G4x. The HTC One line of phone will be a flagship so it wouldnt make sense to change the name of a flagship phone on initial release
The One S isnt that different from the Amaze 4G and is still a better choice with a bigger battery and sd card slot
The same goes for the SGSII and the SGSII Blaze
Now if the LG G4x comes to T-Mobile, then that phone is definitely worth considering even thou LG/nVidia dont have a good developer reputation
wyldkard said:
Now if the LG G4x comes to T-Mobile, then that phone is definitely worth considering even thou LG/nVidia dont have a good developer reputation
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Definitely, just like this phone, it came as crap but the dev's on XDA fixed it all up.
I think I will still pick one up. I might actually stalk the forums before I do though.
Although, if I did it that way when I went to get this I might've waited for the Sensation. :O
I'm pretty happy with the G2x, but I came from an HTC and I feel like I'll end up there again.
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my guess is the XL will go to ATT and i dont think the One S will by pegged as the G4x. The HTC One line of phone will be a flagship so it wouldnt make sense to change the name of a flagship phone on initial release
The One S isnt that different from the Amaze 4G and is still a better choice with a bigger battery and sd card slot
The same goes for the SGSII and the SGSII Blaze
Now if the LG G4x comes to T-Mobile, then that phone is definitely worth considering even thou LG/nVidia dont have a good developer reputation
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Even if the G4x has a locked bootloader?
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Even if the G4x has a locked bootloader?
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3:30
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_b-ASrPoic&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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What really impressed me with the One series phones was the video/picture capabilities. And now that HTC is helping out the dev community with offering a way to unlock the bootloaders and releasing their source code so devs can work their magic with less headache. So looks like HTC will be my next choice when my upgrade is available. I mean why wouldn't the dev be strong for their devices?! It was a great decision for HTC to support dev, this will only increase sells of their phones! They understand we nerds! Lol
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mackster248 said:
Even if the G4x has a locked bootloader?
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Didn't the G2x also have locked bootloader?
Those specs are beastly. I wouldn't mind stock version for a bit till the debate figure out something.
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No. LG has an unlocked bootloader policy.
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Didn't the G2x also have locked bootloader?
Those specs are beastly. I wouldn't mind stock version for a bit till the debate figure out something.
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No, bootloader was open on the G2x. That's why it was so easy to flash CWM, NVFlash took like 2 minutes.
But on the O4x it's going to be locked and probably for the foreseeable future. Maybe devs can crack it, or maybe they can't.
The specs are amazing no doubt. But how long will it last? I would imagine the upcoming SGSIII will out spec it. The G2x was king in specs for only such a short time, I can see the same thing happening for the upcoming O4x.
I love LG's build quality, I've enjoyed it on the G2x a lot actually. But they hate giving source, and now that they're locking the bootloader it's just going to be too much of a head ache for us phone junkies who like to mod it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wA1vQiDW9Ms#!
Listen from 6:35 on....not to excited anymore
churd83 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wA1vQiDW9Ms#!
Listen from 6:35 on....not to excited anymore
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Awww, god damnet man. I was looking forward to going back to HTC...
Sigh, Nexus or SGSIII it is then...
mackster248 said:
Awww, god damnet man. I was looking forward to going back to HTC...
Sigh, Nexus or SGSIII it is then...
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WTF HTC so much for your making good on all future phones being unlocked deal smh
Ya for get these phones the next exnyos/mali/omap5 chips will kick mud on them anyways.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wA1vQiDW9Ms#!
Listen from 6:35 on....not to excited anymore
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I'm still trying to find where this came from, always like to verify from multiple sources...
Having a dual core isn't a bad thing when it will be the fastest processor available on the market.
Yes a dual core is faster than a quad core, architecture makes a huge difference. Stop comparing number of cores and frequency and actually look up information. The Snapdragon S4 is faster than the Tegra 3 Quad Core.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5563/qualcomms-snapdragon-s4-krait-vs-nvidias-tegra-3/1
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my guess is the XL will go to ATT and i dont think the One S will by pegged as the G4x. The HTC One line of phone will be a flagship so it wouldnt make sense to change the name of a flagship phone on initial release
The One S isnt that different from the Amaze 4G and is still a better choice with a bigger battery and sd card slot
The same goes for the SGSII and the SGSII Blaze
Now if the LG G4x comes to T-Mobile, then that phone is definitely worth considering even thou LG/nVidia dont have a good developer reputation
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According to the rumors the XL is the one that ATT will be getting because it will only have the dual core prossessor. From all the tests and articles the only upside that one will have over the TMo One S is the bigger screen size..
The HTC One S will still be called the One S with Tmo that's for sure but does have some similar but better specs than the Amaze.. first of all the thickness is way thinner and even though the processor is still a 1.5 dual core its suppose to be way more efficient.. the camera is suppose to be improved from the Amazes camera also even though that camera was awesome..overall I'm sure its more improved than what words can say but I don't think people would go too wrong with getting the Amaze since it should be going for a bargain once the One S comes out..
The Galaxy S II compared to the Galaxy S Blaze though will be a bit different..first of all it was strange that they created the Blaze as part of the Galaxy S line and not the II series but there is a major difference in screen size from 3.97 of the Blaze and the SGSII is a ton bigger at 4.5 inches.. both are suppose to have the 1.5 dual core possessor but the Blaze will be more of a lower end phone.. Ive seen too many issues with all of the Galaxy S phones so personally i wouldn't ever buy a Samsung over a HTC by any means.. Samsung makes great TVs but kind of crappy cell phones.. and that's coming from someone that has been working in the industry for the better part of 12 years now.. Ive seen quite a bit..
HTC will let you unlock it through their tool I'm sure, they just don't want us having S-OFF.
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Qualcomm and nvidia have been always on the closed source side. And in closed source sense it means you have to buy a MOQ from them and sign NDA blah blah to get your hands on the datasheet. That's what AdamOutler was talking about (that dude wants to know which pin on the SoC does what ), not about HTC won't unlock the phone or release source code for the part that is open source (kernel). GPU driver is another issue as for nvidia and qualcomm it's propriety but qualcomm released their binary usermode driver for ICS. So all is fine, really.
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Qualcomm and nvidia have been always on the closed source side.
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Yea, I'm not sure why he seemed to single out HTC, as many phones and tablets have been, are, and will be built around Qualcomm and Nvidia chips. Taking his comment literally, one would think HTC developed it's own technology which it planned to keep secret. Taking into account the fact that other manufacturers will surly use the same, or similar, processors from these companies, why is he pointing the finger only at HTC?
And not to sound like an ass, but in his car analogy, you bore a cylinder, not a piston...
http://www.phonedog.com/2012/08/08/...-x-follow-up-with-1-7ghz-quad-core-processor/
How will development for our HOX be then? This phone looks to be a beast.
Agreed
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SkizzMcNizz said:
http://www.phonedog.com/2012/08/08/...-x-follow-up-with-1-7ghz-quad-core-processor/
How will development for our HOX be then? This phone looks to be a beast.
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i think its good for us... most of the things will be portable.
technology at work. Year and a half to go for most of us.
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i think its good for us... most of the things will be portable.
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Most likely different processors.
Supposed to be tegra 3 based.
Oh, hey look, another HTC i-device. What are they gonna lock down on this one, date and time changes? Widget locations on the home screen? Contact pictures?
I love my HOX, but HTC's pussification by bowing to AT&T to lock down the device is absurd, and goes against everything their CEO promised the modding/dev community. This very well may be the last time I buy from HTC.
OP how does this suck for us exactly? This is how it goes. Either way, it looks like replacement for intl hox, not ours.
If this had a quad core s4 I'd be mad. However it doesn't.. so I'm not. :thumbup:
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Are people seriously expecting upcoming phones to remain the same or.. be slower? Of course they will be faster and better than what we already have. It will have been at least 1/2 a year by the time this C2 comes out. Deal with it!
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Are people seriously expecting upcoming phones to remain the same or.. be slower? Of course they will be faster and better than what we already have. It will have been at least 1/2 a year by the time this C2 comes out. Deal with it!
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To be honest according to those specs I'd still prefer this version simply because of the battery sipping s4. I think tegra3 will shine in tablets.
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beaups said:
OP how does this suck for us exactly? This is how it goes. Either way, it looks like replacement for intl hox, not ours.
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That's what I was thinking international... But then I remembered the T-mobile rumor.
http://m.techcrunch.com/2012/07/25/htc-one-x-rumored-to-launch-on-t-mobile-come-september/
Still were divided into Tegra and Snapdragon camps anyway. Personally I prefer the battery life on the dual core platform especially considering how close in performance it can be. At this point I'm ready for any good news for HTC as they've been taking a beating in market share from Samsung lately.
It only sucks for people who NEED to be on the bleeding edge of technology. That was me a few years back until i realized i didn't have the resources to fund my expensive habit. So i tend to stay happy with the device i have now
But it does seem like HTC isn't staying so true to their word that they were gonna slow down the amount of devices. But this year is better than last year that's for sure.
I would totally buy that, except this is my last HTC device.
Billy
dylando808 said:
It only sucks for people who NEED to be on the bleeding edge of technology. That was me a few years back until i realized i didn't have the resources to fund my expensive habit. So i tend to stay happy with the device i have now
But it does seem like HTC isn't staying so true to their word that they were gonna slow down the amount of devices. But this year is better than last year that's for sure.
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I'm in the same boat. I would love to unleash my inner tech whore and plunk down money like there's no tomorrow on phones but honestly there's not a damn thing wrong with my one X. It's got great build quality, a great camera, awesome battery life and AOKP. Pretty much all I can ask for in a phone. I figure it will last me at least a year and a half which is more than I can say for pretty much every other phone I've ever owned. Only phone to last me over a year was my old nokia e71 (which I keep as a backup) and that was before I was exposed to the wonderful world of Android on my nexus one.
Same thing happens every time a new device comes out.
I don't get it. You think they should hold off bringing out a new phone until you've had enough of yours?
Is called progression...
I think ( tho could be wrong ) the op meant it sucks in terms of support.
I do understand....I bought 2 Evo 3d's paid over a grand for them 6 months later the phone is dropped for the 4G and I did well to sell one for 175 bucks, where as had I bought iphones I would have not lost so much.
So here we have the hox currently one hot phone, you bring out the "rumored" phone and now the hox turns in to ugly friend that nobody wants to date. So value drops, development drops, and support drops.
So yeah I see how it sucks.
Funny how you bring up the iPhone thing. I always think the same.. I switched to ATT the day the HOX came out. And now while I love the phone I don't want to be stuck with a phone that won't have development. With what little devs we have we are doing great, but what incentive do they have to stay when better phones are popping up? And now were stuck with this phone hardly anybody wants to buy after f____ing ATT dropped the price to a measly 100 dollars. That was a damn quick price drop.
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OP how does this suck for us exactly? This is how it goes. Either way, it looks like replacement for intl hox, not ours.
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Word is its coming to tmo and possibly att as well. From what Flipboard has told me..
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Word is its coming to tmo and possibly att as well. From what Flipboard has told me..
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The linked article does not mention LTE. And I think Tegra chipsets with LTE are not coming until late this year, or even 2013? Without LTE, AT&T is not going to pick up this phone.
Looks to be an upgrade for international carriers, or a flagship for T-Mobile. Either way, that wouldn't affect our development much, if at all.