Has anyone been able to get 100% charge? - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I saw this for the first time yesterday.
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Mine always stops at 94. Only time I get 100 is if I use my external battery charger.
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Its related to safety questions. All stock Nexus do that.

Some custom kernels have now enabled the full charging capabilities ........
Long days and pleasant nights............

pitmaster said:
Some custom kernels have now enabled the full charging capabilities ........
Long days and pleasant nights............
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They still charge the same but report 100 instead of 95 or 96 for fully charged.
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sf1nx said:
Its related to safety questions. All stock Nexus do that.
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False.
It's a poorly implemented battery charge profile from Google. It would seem Google did not take into proper consideration battery aging and it's effects on battery voltage at full capacity.

Cm 7.1.0 does it for me
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depends on kernel
mine does , but i don't wanna it to be 100% , 95% is good

xciton said:
False.
It's a poorly implemented battery charge profile from Google. It would seem Google did not take into proper consideration battery aging and it's effects on battery voltage at full capacity.
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please explain all research i have seen here kinda goes the other way, not to keep the battery at long period of full charge.
Poor Implementation no that goes to my EVO where it would tell me it was fully charged to 100% when in reality it could be from 90% to 100%
If you think your going o take over the world with that extra 5%...........

the 100% charge that some custom roms allow isnt a true 100%, its purely cosmetic. its actually, 94-97%. the only ways to get a true 100% charge is to finish charging with your screen on or turn on your wireless tether then charge.

Rem3Dy said:
They still charge the same but report 100 instead of 95 or 96 for fully charged.
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Geez...... glad I use an external charger......
Long days and pleasant nights............

So what is fully charged stats??
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pitmaster said:
Geez...... glad I use an external charger......
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Doesn't everyone use an "external" charger...

markhirt said:
Doesn't everyone use an "external" charger...
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no, they are referring to a battery cradle, where you physically remove the battery from the phone to charge it

Never had 100 percent. Almost always it's 95-97 using stock rom. I was alarmed at first but after checking the net i'm ok with it. It lasts 2 days anyway
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From what I read all phones don't charge to 100 because its a hazard. May say 100% but then drops yo 94-97% ... there's a way to bypass that but your phone might explode =D
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YourMainDude said:
From what I read all phones don't charge to 100 because its a hazard. May say 100% but then drops yo 94-97% ... there's a way to bypass that but your phone might explode =D
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yep, it's designed that way for a reason.
Am I the only one tired of seeing people talk about 100% charge?

What will splode? The battery? Lol awesome. Well I'd rather be lied to. I feel much more confident about my phone when the battery reads 100% instead of 94%. Also, idk if I believe the notion of the phone faking it. When I unplug from 100 o stay between 100% and 97% for about an hour. Doesn't immediately drop to 95.
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RushAOZ said:
What will splode? The battery? Lol awesome. Well I'd rather be lied to. I feel much more confident about my phone when the battery reads 100% instead of 94%. Also, idk if I believe the notion of the phone faking it. When I unplug from 100 o stay between 100% and 97% for about an hour. Doesn't immediately drop to 95.
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Nothing will explode. The battery's life will just be significantly shortened just like how older laptops used to stop holding a charge.
It doesn't matter if you believe it, it's a fact that not charging the battery to 100% will make it last longer.

I heard that the battery life shortens alot if you charge to 100% or discharge under 10%!
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Galilio battery happy result :d

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yes that 20 means i have 20 percent left, for those of you that think galilio sucks make sure you charge it right, first time up run it to it die, then charge all the way back up using the charger that came along with it(thats what i did not sure if it matters), do this a couple of time, also dont forget to wipe battery stat under recovery...
this is with 2 hours of GPS 2 hours of Tunein radio (use alot of bandwidth believe it or not)
and light texting, no calls brightness are from 40% at night to 60% at day time (running bright day apps ) live wallpaper is running. i am also running sense, htc friends stream update every 2 hours (gonna up it to 1hr to see result) htc stock is 4 hours (up it to 2hr to see result) news stream is manual (up it to 4hr to see result), i am not running advance task killer, cause i dont believe it work.
for 19 bucks and a month of wait time, its worth it for me
Lith ion battery right? Your cycling is not needed. Its a myth.
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Not bad.
I get the same results with the 1800mah EVO battery though.
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Mind posting the link where you got it for 19?
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durps said:
Not bad.
I get the same results with the 1800mah EVO battery though.
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yea and i bet you pay 40 bucks for it
G1_enthusiast said:
yea and i bet you pay 40 bucks for it
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$20 for two
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$20 for two
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yea the galilio is 20 bucks for 2 with the charger
Nope, 15 bucks.
Nice try though.
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Lith ion battery right? Your cycling is not needed. Its a myth.
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Yup, conditioning the battery doesn't work and doesn't do anything for Li ion batteries. Its out dated info from the days when phones used NiCad batteries. Draining your battery to empty may also render your battery unable to take a charge (the safety circuit is not always guaranteed to prevent over discharge). Discharging below 20% should be avoided.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/do_and_dont_battery_table
What power cycling does is calibrate the battery meter on the phone. It does nothing to the battery (at least nothing good). The best way to calibrate the battery meter is charge to full, then drain to 20%, repeat a couple times.
redpoint73 said:
Yup, conditioning the battery doesn't work and doesn't do anything for Li ion batteries. Its out dated info from the days when phones used NiCad batteries. Draining your battery to empty may also render your battery unable to take a charge (the safety circuit is not always guaranteed to prevent over discharge). Discharging below 20% should be avoided.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/do_and_dont_battery_table
What power cycling does is calibrate the battery meter on the phone. It does nothing to the battery (at least nothing good). The best way to calibrate the battery meter is charge to full, then drain to 20%, repeat a couple times.
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Thank you! I am so sick of people talking about calibrating lithium ion batteries which is an annoying, common misconception. If you're having trouble, remove the battery and make sure the cells aren't swollen and just wipe batterystats.bin
well you guys can say what you want, thats how i did it and it give me relatively longer battery life then stock, plus i'm tire of having my screen at low brightness, now i can have it high and not worried about running out of juice
i guess ill be picking one up
well guys it turn from good to ****ty (OEM life)
Battery died?
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Are these the battery you're using?
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What this guy said!!

Battery now dying...

So I'm like wtf all of a sudden my battery is like at 40% by noon, and I recharge and it gets to the same within a couple of hours }
I don't get it not even a year yet
BTW I'm stock froyo/ rooted
Bad battery ? Any one else experience this? I have juice defender set CPU
Battery stats say main cause is "cell standby" any tricks to fix this?
No I'm not going to gb
meh...
Well, in the end, that's the best that froyo can do for the G2X...
I had Froyo and i pulled off 6hrs, when i got GB i was able to pull off 8, so yea, juice defender really wouldn't give you that much more battery life, the best shot is to upgrade the ROM.
i would consider updating it :/ i've never had froyo but since i've been using gb i get 15+ hours out of my phone and that's with heavy texting, internet browsing, some netflix watching and a little gaming. but cell standby seems to be my biggest problem too i wish i could fix that
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Well, in the end, that's the best that froyo can do for the G2X...
I had Froyo and i pulled off 6hrs, when i got GB i was able to pull off 8, so yea, juice defender really wouldn't give you that much more battery life, the best shot is to upgrade the ROM.
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Running froyo I was getting at least 14-16 hours.
Usually bad battery life can be accredited to less-than-optimal user settings, heavy device usage, or there's a rogue app that's sucking your battery down.
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and as you can see i still have about half a battery left. the only precaution i really take is that my brightness is almost down to zero. and on my old phone it used to show in the battery settings if i used a certain application such as internet or ebuddy. i have no idea why it won't show those on this device so you can't see my heavy internet usage, gaming and some netflix watching.
and just for reference i'm running complete stock no root or anything. i'm now on one day and two hours worth of battery with 30% still left
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tokimaromi said:
and as you can see i still have about half a battery left. the only precaution i really take is that my brightness is almost down to zero. and on my old phone it used to show in the battery settings if i used a certain application such as internet or ebuddy. i have no idea why it won't show those on this device so you can't see my heavy internet usage, gaming and some netflix watching.
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I wish I got that kind of battery usage out of mine. Cell standby is just sucking everything it can out of my battery...
barqers said:
I wish I got that kind of battery usage out of mine. Cell standby is just sucking everything it can out of my battery...
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i hope someone can help you with that! cell standby is one of my worst battery suckers but obviously it's not doing too bad. it's still alive right now at 18% i'm trying to see how much i can milk it for
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i hope someone can help you with that! cell standby is one of my worst battery suckers but obviously it's not doing too bad. it's still alive right now at 18% i'm trying to see how much i can milk it for
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Lol I'd be lucky if I got 12 hours out of my phone with my display OFF -.-
I'm probably going to switch back to Froyo.
barqers said:
Lol I'd be lucky if I got 12 hours out of my phone with my display OFF -.-
I'm probably going to switch back to Froyo.
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you got better battery life using froyo? that's the exact opposite of what i've been hearing
tokimaromi said:
you got better battery life using froyo? that's the exact opposite of what i've been hearing
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I had froyo on my phone for about 3 hours and I lost 10%. I have any version of GB on my phone and I lost 10%/hour. So it's a huge jump ATM.
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Hey OP, can you post a list of your apps? Use listables. I want to compare it against mine. If there are any similar apps then I'm going to disable/uninstall mine and check battery life and report back.
Have you tried booting into recovery and erasing battery data? That greatly improved battery life on my Nexus S after it had undergone multiple ROM flashes.
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The ROM you're using is a huge matter. With CM7, i couldn't go a day without charging. Now, with MIUI, I'm pretty sure I can get 3 days, with normal brightness, and my normal use, which is email and texting.
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The ROM you're using is a huge matter. With CM7, i couldn't go a day without charging. Now, with MIUI, I'm pretty sure I can get 3 days, with normal brightness, and my normal use, which is email and texting.
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Holy **** I finally found someone with WIND Lol! Okay, what are your settings though? Do you have it set to WCDMA Only?
Is 3G turned on? Cause I can barely get like 14 hours moderate usage with dim brightness :S
I noticed that with cell radio on I used 10% in 57 minutes and with it off I used 1% in 1.5 hours...
bjlefebvre said:
Have you tried booting into recovery and erasing battery data? That greatly improved battery life on my Nexus S after it had undergone multiple ROM flashes.
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I'll try tonight! Just letting it fully charge, then wiping/calibrating!
I found that if I turn data off sync off the battery lasts over twice as long. I don't need it consistently on, so I turn it on when I'm not busy. Works for me
aceofserenity said:
I found that if I turn data off sync off the battery lasts over twice as long. I don't need it consistently on, so I turn it on when I'm not busy. Works for me
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You know what I find weird. It doesn't matter if I turn data off or not cell standby will still use the same amount of battery and my battery still drains at the same rate.
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Just realized both threads were started by u..
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[Q] Freezing / battery charging

My Nexus S constantly freezes on battery. It's very slow, and unresponsive, it rarely stays alive fore more than 5 minutes. It's completely unusable on battery. Oddly, if it's charging it might work (still pretty slow and unresponsive after booting but it eventually sorts itself and works.) Another thing is the battery has *never* held a charge above 95%. Every-so-often it will charge to 96 or 97 but left connected to the charger it will start discharging and settle back to 95%.
It's running CM nightly. the battery charge problem happened even on the stock ROM. The freezing is probably a recent problem, I don't use this phone often enough to know.
Does anyone know about either of these problems? Is it related to CM? I don't want to switch to the stock ROM if I don't have to. The only reason I'm trying to use this phone is my DHD gets abysmal battery life. The other day, barely using the DHD, I went from 100% battery to 10% in just 6 hours.
what do you mean by "freeze on battery" ? i know single word , but when these 3 words combined a sentence , i have no idea
by what you say 95% , that's normal , if you are using kernel that does not indicate it can makes battery charge to 100% , then you won't be charge to 100% , mostly 95% tops , sometimes get pass 95% due to overcharge protection.
i assume your problem is your phone running pretty slow ?
you may wanna check your CPU usage because some applications may be running background and has high CPU usage
also you need check your battery's voltage , low voltage output will make CPU run slow due to not enough power ...
anyway , personal suggestion , first of all , back up your personal data and then flash stock ROM see if it is ROM problem , and then we could think of something else
good luck
Newest cm7 kernel charges to 100, older ones 95 is the norm.
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Newest cm7 kernel charges to 100, older ones 95 is the norm.
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its not a real 100%, its a cosmetic change. its actually charging to the same place it was before, just the number was altered to say 100%. if you look at the mV you will see. 4195-96 is a real 100% charge
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its not a real 100%, its a cosmetic change. its actually charging to the same place it was before, just the number was altered to say 100%. if you look at the mV you will see. 4195-96 is a real 100% charge
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hold on a second
mV or we are looking for mA ?
mV = output
mA = capacity
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hold on a second
mV or we are looking for mA ?
mV = output
mA = capacity
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with bump charging..
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what do you mean by "freeze on battery" ? i know single word , but when these 3 words combined a sentence , i have no idea
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"freeze on battery" means that it only freezes when the power source is the battery. Plugged in to my computer or a charger and it doesn't happen.
try use another battery , i think it may be freeze due to low power output that makes CPU and other hardware do not have enough juice to function properly
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I've solved the problem... I removed 120 apps from the phone and have had no problems since. I don't know if it was one particular app causing a problem or just that I had so many installed.
i think it's some of them , becuase i have also that much applications as well ...
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My Nexus S constantly freezes on battery. It's very slow, and unresponsive, it rarely stays alive fore more than 5 minutes. It's completely unusable on battery. Oddly, if it's charging it might work (still pretty slow and unresponsive after booting but it eventually sorts itself and works.) Another thing is the battery has *never* held a charge above 95%. Every-so-often it will charge to 96 or 97 but left connected to the charger it will start discharging and settle back to 95%.
It's running CM nightly. the battery charge problem happened even on the stock ROM. The freezing is probably a recent problem, I don't use this phone often enough to know.
Does anyone know about either of these problems? Is it related to CM? I don't want to switch to the stock ROM if I don't have to. The only reason I'm trying to use this phone is my DHD gets abysmal battery life. The other day, barely using the DHD, I went from 100% battery to 10% in just 6 hours.
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try reflashing ur rom if u havent already...i had the same issue n reflashing work for me...i used a back up
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Battery issues?

Everyday i wake up to use the bathroom then unplug my battery from charging. When i usually start my day i have about 97% battery. Heres my battery when i got up today. I am completely stock.
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My battery is awesome compared to my old htc rezound. I'm running Synergy Rom and I just about used myself phone all day and managed to come home and still have 20% remaining.
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On synergy currently.
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Everyday i wake up to use the bathroom then unplug my battery from charging. When i usually start my day i have about 97% battery. Heres my battery when i got up today. I am completely stock.
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My understanding is that the battery drops fairly rapidly from 100% to 95% before stabilizing to a slower, more controlled drop
I think this was detailed in the Synergy ROM thread
SFniner415 said:
Everyday i wake up to use the bathroom then unplug my battery from charging. When i usually start my day i have about 97% battery. Heres my battery when i got up today. I am completely stock.
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It might be because you are in cell standby a lot, are you in a low signal area majority of the time? Checking for signal 41% of the time, might account for the battery decreasing so fast.
It also seems that the international phones are getting a firmware update to address cell standby battery drain, but I don't know if it pertains to us in the U.S. http://blog.gadgethelpline.com/samsung-seeds-firmware-update-fix-cell-standby-battery-drain/
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My understanding is that the battery drops fairly rapidly from 100% to 95% before stabilizing to a slower, more controlled drop
I think this was detailed in the Synergy ROM thread
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No, usually most phones will charge to 100 then stop charging and let the battery drain a little, many phones down to 90 then recharge again. That way it doesn't harm that battery.
Now personally I always preferred trickle charging where the phone pulls just enough that it doesn't drain at all, but there has always been debates on if this destroys your battery faster.
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It might be because you are in cell standby a lot, are you in a low signal area majority of the time? Checking for signal 41% of the time, might account for the battery decreasing so fast.
It also seems that the international phones are getting a firmware update to address cell standby battery drain, but I don't know if it pertains to us in the U.S. http://blog.gadgethelpline.com/samsung-seeds-firmware-update-fix-cell-standby-battery-drain/
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Hmmm maybe cuz my wifi was disabled and it kept searching for 4g. This was the first time it happened.
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During the night your phone charges and the drops to about 90% then up again. That is normal . Nothing to worry about.

Nexus 5 battery problems

Hi. I have a two-months-old Nexus 5 (stock ROM & kernel; rooted). Two days ago my battery suddenly started having some problems. First of all, it doesn't last more than 1-2 hours with normal phone usage. Then it often becomes hot, even when not charging. Last but not least, if I keep using my phone while charging, it charges incredibly slowly, or it doesn't charge at all (the charge remains stable). I'm using the stock charger. Any suggestion?
Jaggions said:
Hi. I have a two-months-old Nexus 5 (stock ROM & kernel; rooted). Two days ago my battery suddenly started having some problems. First of all, it doesn't last more than 1-2 hours with normal phone usage. Then it often becomes hot, even when not charging. Last but not least, if I keep using my phone while charging, it charges incredibly slowly, or it doesn't charge at all (the charge remains stable). I'm using the stock charger. Any suggestion?
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What does the battery settings show?
Paste your battery screenie, please..
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What does the battery settings show?
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Just buy another phone that has higher than 2300 milliampz
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Here you go:
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Looks like wakelocking. You'll need root and BetterBatteryStats to fix it (without guessing).
dicecuber said:
Just buy another phone that has higher than 2300 milliampz
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The Nexus 5 has been proven to last longer then an SGS4 which has a bigger battery, and the HTC one with the same size battery (under proper testing conditions) all while using a faster SoC. Do you troll the forums for those phones as well?
Maybe a Moto G or LG G2 would suit some people better for their increased battery life, but that doesn't mean you need to troll every thread on here with false accusations.
If you'd like any more proof on how the N5 battery lasts longer and is more efficient than competing phones of higher prices, just let me know.
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Looks like wakelocking. You'll need root and BetterBatteryStats to fix it (without guessing).
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I did what you said; I have attached some screenshots. I'm not an expert about this, but it seems like you were right. What shall I do?
The most important stat to look at is partial wakelocks - it lets you see which app or apps are waking.
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I'll have to check on that... I think it might not be that easy...
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Just attach the log, missing info from those screenshots.
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Just attach the log, missing info from those screenshots.
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Sorry for the delay. Here you go:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5og53439mj8b5cg/BetterBatteryStats-2014-01-28_175226040.txt
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Sorry for the delay. Here you go:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5og53439mj8b5cg/BetterBatteryStats-2014-01-28_175226040.txt
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Go into device settings > Location. Set Mode to Device only. Ensure that the Google location reporting in that same area is off.
Take another BBS log and post it.
I experience the same issues. Not charging when connected or even lose charge when connected. I am still figuring out what causes it. First of all try using the original cable and charger. Second, disconnect the charger when the screen is on, I read somewhere that can help as well.
Today I had the same issue again, but just before I started charging, the battery would lose 1% per 2 minutes and my phone became very warm.
If I find out more, I will let you know.
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Aerowinder said:
Go into device settings > Location. Set Mode to Device only. Ensure that the Google location reporting in that same area is off.
Take another BBS log and post it.
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I did what you said and today the battery drained much faster then before. Here you have the logs: https://www.dropbox.com/s/b5temccnzh1mnky/BetterBatteryStats-2014-01-29_121755481.txt
Jaggions said:
I did what you said and today the battery drained much faster then before. Here you have the logs: https://www.dropbox.com/s/b5temccnzh1mnky/BetterBatteryStats-2014-01-29_121755481.txt
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EntriesRefresh_wakelock (com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox.Google Search): 4 h 47 m 17 s (17237 s) Count:0 98.6%
That is the problem. That particular wakelock belongs to Google Now. I hope you don't use it, because the solution is to turn it off (from within the program). You could try force stopping and/or wiping it's data. But the fact of the matter is that it's a bug in the app.
Google Now has been this way since it was released. The only conclusion I can draw is that Google doesn't care. It's never behaved properly. And that location reporting (that you've now disabled) is completely out of control, been that way for a year now. I actually greenify the Google apps now. I'm tired of putting up with the lazy programming. Keep, Now, Chrome, Drive, Maps, I greenify all of those. I still allow them to sync, but Greenify will kill them again after they are finished.
Jaggions said:
I did what you said and today the battery drained much faster then before. Here you have the logs: https://www.dropbox.com/s/b5temccnzh1mnky/BetterBatteryStats-2014-01-29_121755481.txt
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Thank you. I'll try disabling google now and I'll let you know.
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I can confirm that I have no battery problems anymore (today after 6 hours of average usage it was still at 80%!!). Thank you all for your help!
Good to hear. If anyone else see's Android OS or Search taking up 50% or more of your battery that can be mitigated.
Jaggions said:
Hi. I have a two-months-old Nexus 5 (stock ROM & kernel; rooted). Two days ago my battery suddenly started having some problems. First of all, it doesn't last more than 1-2 hours with normal phone usage. Then it often becomes hot, even when not charging. Last but not least, if I keep using my phone while charging, it charges incredibly slowly, or it doesn't charge at all (the charge remains stable). I'm using the stock charger. Any suggestion?
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Take out your Battery, put it on a flat surface say a table. Try to Spin it....if it spins over 2 rounds then you need to buy a new battery.

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