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Mugen battery dying?

hey guys i bought a 3600Mah mugen battery and its seem like its dying faster, anyone feels the same?
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kernel 2.6.35.14
rom xboarderMOD V3.0.1
android version 2.3.5
brightness: 60-70%
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i'm sitting on 30% right now
i dont think i can get a full day like most of everyone, i already delete the battery stat and its still not working

How long have you had it? New batteries should cycle afew times though before the gauge can be trusted.
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I get two days out of regular use from my mugen 3600. I've had it for about 5 months now. Still runs strong.
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I get 2 days of regular use and over 3 days with little usage on my 1800mAh battery, you should get LOADS more on yours, 4 days at a minimum.
Charge up to 100%, let it rest on charger for 2 more hours.
Go to recovery and wipe battery stats.
Use the device as normal but do not charge until it dies at 0%.
Charge to 100% and again let it rest a bit, then resume your normal usage.
Every once in a while or after flashing a new ROM, let it discharge to 0 to get accurate readings.
And also be aware that google GPS-based apps have problems on CM7 based ROMs and the GPS sometimes stays awake or some such bug. It doesn't show on battery usage graph but every time you use google maps, google goggles or similar I recommend rebooting because there's a chance it's slowly draining your battery in the background.

nik3r said:
I get 2 days of regular use and over 3 days with little usage on my 1800mAh battery, you should get LOADS more on yours, 4 days at a minimum.
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My normla usage is more then your normal usage, end of story.
Play n64oid daily on your phone and see how much faster it dies.
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G1_enthusiast said:
hey guys i bought a 3600Mah mugen battery and its seem like its dying faster, anyone feels the same?
little info:
kernel 2.6.35.14
rom xboarderMOD V3.0.1
android version 2.3.5
brightness: 60-70%
i'm sitting on 30% right now
i dont think i can get a full day like most of everyone, i already delete the battery stat and its still not working
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Just a thought: Do you really use google maps so much that it can account for 22% of energy consumption on a 3.6k mah battery? That seems kind of excessive to me.
I mention this since I used to have problems with google maps starting on its own in the background and it really drained the battery like crazy. (oddly enough it would only start whenever i opened the stock mail client.)

The latest google maps does not run in the back ground even after exiting like previous versions of maps (you would have to either reboot the phone or use a 3rd party app to manually kill everything related to maps).
So my recommendation is to do what the above said with the calibration and then make sure you are on the latest maps.

nik3r said:
Charge up to 100%, let it rest on charger for 2 more hours.
Go to recovery and wipe battery stats.
Use the device as normal but do not charge until it dies at 0%.
Charge to 100% and again let it rest a bit, then resume your normal usage.
Every once in a while or after flashing a new ROM, let it discharge to 0 to get accurate readings.
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A lot of people give the advice to drain the battery until it dies. Very poor advice, and you can kill the battery that way. Just drain to 20% or so. No need to go any lower, its not going to make the battery meter any more accurate.

Mog said:
My normla usage is more then your normal usage, end of story.
Play n64oid daily on your phone and see how much faster it dies.
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I do actually and I get probably 10 hours extremely heavy usage! Light usage to no usage I get 24 hours plus on 1900 mah chichitech. I've gone 4 hours before my phone ticked from 100 percent to 99 lol.

Battery Issue

OK people i know the Inspire has bad battery life, but this is ridiculous
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Radio w/RCDATA: 12.59.60.26P_26.11.04.21_M
MD5 Sum: 57cccef401c372c6d421c986ee42e0fe
RIL: HTC-RIL 2.2.160
MD5 Sum: 864d02352ce1100968cb39fe6ce65160
I think this is crazy
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What do you guys think

I think your last image got messed up. The three visible look identical (no drain).

Gene Poole said:
I think your last image got messed up. The three visible look identical (no drain).
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I think what he's trying to point out is at 4 and a half minutes he's still at 100%, at 9 minutes he's down to 99%, at 13 minutes he's down to 98%, at 35 minutes he's down to 95% - and I think he's saying he expects his battery to be a lot better than this.
If you're checking your battery drain that often, I expect your screen was on a good percentage of that time, and yes, Display will use a good % of your battery. Look at your Battery Use, what's eating the most battery?

Oh, I wasn't looking at the battery icon. And now the other image shows up. I thought maybe that last one showed a huge drop. That would have indicated a bad battery.
homeslice976 is right. If you keep looking at it, it'll keep draining fast. Get a widget from the market that keeps track over several hours (or days) and look for trends there.

My problem is this, i leave my phone charge over night and when i get up in the morning i disconnect my charger.
but as soon as i disconnect my charger no more then 1 to 2 minutes i already lost 1% within 1 to 2 minutes of disconnecting the charger yes i understand if i keep checking it it will lose battery.
but as soon as i disconnect my charger i light up a cigarette and then go to my text messages, like i said 1 minute still smoking my cigarette it is already at 99% before i even open my text messages
this battery sucks big time, i had a MT4G and i have way better battery then this
Speaking of MT4G i am going to put it up for sale in the Sales section.
have a bunch of extras for it

Gene Poole said:
homeslice976 is right. If you keep looking at it, it'll keep draining fast. Get a widget from the market that keeps track over several hours (or days) and look for trends there.
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You might try battery monitor widget pro from the market. It will give you a nice graph of battery usage over time.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using XDA App

You also seem to have an inconsistent signal. By the third screen, you were down to EDGE. If the radio is constantly trying to get you a better signal, battery life suffers.
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biglittlegato said:
You also seem to have an inconsistent signal. By the third screen, you were down to EDGE. If the radio is constantly trying to get you a better signal, battery life suffers.
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This is true too. Play around with different radio/ril combinations, letting them settle in for a day or two before testing and see if you get any better results

Well moved from LeDroid to Virtuous Unity and battery looks a whole lot better and so does my wifi signal.
I have installed the Battery Monitor Widget so we will see what kind of results i get with it.
PS i am also using a Slim Extended Battery from Anker 1600mAh
had one with my MT4G with 1700mAh and it ran great

Your screen takes a lot out of the battery, end of story, not much you can do. I agree the battery life you originally posted was nutty. I had the same thing when I first starting using Coredroid. These links helped me knock out some of the other high battery drain issues and since haven't had too many problems..I do these anytime I flash a new rom and battery life has not been an issue. Hope everything on the new rom works out man!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16808932
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=937080

I am still scratching my head. What is so wrong with the pics above? I don't dee it. Everything looks normal. Last pic shows 95% and awake time of 21:43. Do the math and that is over 400 minutes of wake time on a battery charge. Not to mention that you were doing something on your phone as you did switch wifi on for the last 20 minutes between pics.
You can't measure your gas mileage in a car by only driving 30 miles nor can you on your phone in only 30 minutes on a battery that probably isn't perfectly calibrated for the phone anyways.

Has anyone been able to get 100% charge?

I saw this for the first time yesterday.
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Mine always stops at 94. Only time I get 100 is if I use my external battery charger.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G

Its related to safety questions. All stock Nexus do that.

Some custom kernels have now enabled the full charging capabilities ........
Long days and pleasant nights............

pitmaster said:
Some custom kernels have now enabled the full charging capabilities ........
Long days and pleasant nights............
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They still charge the same but report 100 instead of 95 or 96 for fully charged.
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sf1nx said:
Its related to safety questions. All stock Nexus do that.
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False.
It's a poorly implemented battery charge profile from Google. It would seem Google did not take into proper consideration battery aging and it's effects on battery voltage at full capacity.

Cm 7.1.0 does it for me
sent from my Touchwiz'd Nexus S 4g

depends on kernel
mine does , but i don't wanna it to be 100% , 95% is good

xciton said:
False.
It's a poorly implemented battery charge profile from Google. It would seem Google did not take into proper consideration battery aging and it's effects on battery voltage at full capacity.
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please explain all research i have seen here kinda goes the other way, not to keep the battery at long period of full charge.
Poor Implementation no that goes to my EVO where it would tell me it was fully charged to 100% when in reality it could be from 90% to 100%
If you think your going o take over the world with that extra 5%...........

the 100% charge that some custom roms allow isnt a true 100%, its purely cosmetic. its actually, 94-97%. the only ways to get a true 100% charge is to finish charging with your screen on or turn on your wireless tether then charge.

Rem3Dy said:
They still charge the same but report 100 instead of 95 or 96 for fully charged.
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Geez...... glad I use an external charger......
Long days and pleasant nights............

So what is fully charged stats??
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pitmaster said:
Geez...... glad I use an external charger......
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Doesn't everyone use an "external" charger...

markhirt said:
Doesn't everyone use an "external" charger...
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no, they are referring to a battery cradle, where you physically remove the battery from the phone to charge it

Never had 100 percent. Almost always it's 95-97 using stock rom. I was alarmed at first but after checking the net i'm ok with it. It lasts 2 days anyway
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From what I read all phones don't charge to 100 because its a hazard. May say 100% but then drops yo 94-97% ... there's a way to bypass that but your phone might explode =D
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YourMainDude said:
From what I read all phones don't charge to 100 because its a hazard. May say 100% but then drops yo 94-97% ... there's a way to bypass that but your phone might explode =D
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yep, it's designed that way for a reason.
Am I the only one tired of seeing people talk about 100% charge?

What will splode? The battery? Lol awesome. Well I'd rather be lied to. I feel much more confident about my phone when the battery reads 100% instead of 94%. Also, idk if I believe the notion of the phone faking it. When I unplug from 100 o stay between 100% and 97% for about an hour. Doesn't immediately drop to 95.
sent from my Touchwiz'd Nexus S 4g

RushAOZ said:
What will splode? The battery? Lol awesome. Well I'd rather be lied to. I feel much more confident about my phone when the battery reads 100% instead of 94%. Also, idk if I believe the notion of the phone faking it. When I unplug from 100 o stay between 100% and 97% for about an hour. Doesn't immediately drop to 95.
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Nothing will explode. The battery's life will just be significantly shortened just like how older laptops used to stop holding a charge.
It doesn't matter if you believe it, it's a fact that not charging the battery to 100% will make it last longer.

I heard that the battery life shortens alot if you charge to 100% or discharge under 10%!
Sent from my Google Nexus S

Qcell 3850mah battery tests!

Got this battery today and decided to show it off because I haven't seen too many threads about it.
Review:
So far I can already tell the battery life is much better. I was messing around with some apps with wifi on for 20-30 minutes and the battery was still at 97%. I am running Nexus 4 rom with a overclocked cpu 1.73ghz and a overclocked gpu with about 50% brightness. The bludge on the back isnt as thick as I thought it was and barley adds any bulk... only problem with it is the back cover that comes with it is very bad quality and has cracks on it that are going to break if i try to take it off lol... But for 20$ its still a great deal, and im getting the sedio case which will work on it! Pics coming tomorrow on that so check back...
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"test" ( NOTE THE BATTERY IS NOT CALIBRATED YET! MOST LIKELY WILL INCREASE MORE! )
I used the app "Juice Offender" to drain the battery as fast as possible to calibrate it.
The app is advertised to drain 1%/minute on the average android phone... So far I have been running this app non-stop for 2 hours now and the battery is at 55%.
with the normal battery at 1%/minute the phone would have been dead after 100 minutes, or 1 hour 40 minutes... with the extended battery its still 20 minutes after the normal battery would have died and keeping a good 55%, which means even when its not calibrated it keeps its 3850mah rating which is 2x the capacity of the original battery!
Again this is the pic after 2 hours running "Juice offender , which turns the brightness to 100%, wifi on, constantly vibrating, max cpu load ( overclocked ), location services on, camera flash on, and bluetooth on.
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I am not very impressed with this bat yet
Hello I also have this battery and do not feel impressed - the device does not last thru one day even. Have run this about 2 days now.
I am running Collective ICS - do not have over clocking - and the screen is also not set to bright.
I wonder if the low cost battery is any good.

badrsj said:
Hello I also have this battery and do not feel impressed - the device does not last thru one day even. Have run this about 2 days now.
I am running Collective ICS - do not have over clocking - and the screen is also not set to bright.
I wonder if the low cost battery is any good.
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They are never as good as an oem. Do yourself a favor and get the nexus extended battery while they're still on sale

Woah so juice defender is bad?
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cashyftw said:
Woah so juice defender is bad?
Sent from my awesome Hercules
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Well, yeah that is too, but he used JUICE OFFENDER.

Ok I used to be an avid juice defender user, however it defends juice by shutting off networks and making smart phone dumb phone.
I stopped when the app juice defender was unable to restore my network connections this happened several times unfortunately, so I had to stop using my paid version.
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apart from low cost this battery is a dud. I'm moving off when my seidio battery arrives. Also not following this post anymore. Have a good one you all.
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badrsj said:
apart from low cost this battery is a dud. I'm moving off when my seidio battery arrives. Also not following this post anymore. Have a good one you all.
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Same, I ended up having to return this battery, the back completely snapped in half while trying to take it off for the first time >.>

Juicy555 said:
Same, I ended up having to return this battery, the back completely snapped in half while trying to take it off for the first time >.>
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Yup, cheapo batteries are never as good. I don't see the point in risking a $600 device to save $10 on a crap battery

i've had the seidio for a few months now and I love it i'm a heavy user constantly on my phone and it easily last me through the day don't buy crap batteries.....also getting a given extended battery will post a little head to head
Tapd on my Skyrocket

badrsj said:
Ok I used to be an avid juice defender user, however it defends juice by shutting off networks and making smart phone dumb phone.
I stopped when the app juice defender was unable to restore my network connections this happened several times unfortunately, so I had to stop using my paid version.
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I use juice defender... whats the diffrence between that and the juice offender? I only have the FREE juice defender. Are you saying its no good? if so what else saves ur battery?

Rayg1022 said:
I use juice defender... whats the diffrence between that and the juice offender? I only have the FREE juice defender. Are you saying its no good? if so what else saves ur battery?
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Juice Defender = Saves battery by controlling radio and brightness amongst other functions of the phone
Juice Offender = Kills the battery intentionally by maxing everything out on the phone for performance/endurance tests.

Using Qcell battery and stock battery at same time
I am using Qcell battery and stock battery at the same time. I don't see the difference at all. Should I use only qcell battery?

bamboo1234 said:
I am using Qcell battery and stock battery at the same time. I don't see the difference at all. Should I use only qcell battery?
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Use the qcell for a week only and break it in, you need to calibrate it. But I have noticed a much improvement in battery life, both in screen on and standby time. 15 hours the second day with 4-5 hours screen on. I could not even get 2 hours screen on, on stock battery.
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Battery drain

Why does my display use so much battery even when on the lowest setting? I have horrible battery life running cm10 with UCKI3 with no overclocking and I'm using 35% zram and conservative governer. I'm draining about 10% per hour with no use (yes, it does go into deep sleep) and about 20% per hour with use. When I am using the phone lightly none of my good quality chargers can keep up with the phone and the phone actually slowly loses battery when plugged into the charger and I am using it. When the phone is in deep sleep the charger charges it very slowly.
I appreciate your help.
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Rockwings said:
Why does my display use so much battery even when on the lowest setting? I have horrible battery life running cm10 with UCKI3 with no overclocking and I'm using 35% zram and conservative governer. I'm draining about 10% per hour with no use (yes, it does go into deep sleep) and about 20% per hour with use. When I am using the phone lightly none of my good quality chargers can keep up with the phone and the phone actually slowly loses battery when plugged into the charger and I am using it. When the phone is in deep sleep the charger charges it very slowly.
I appreciate your help.
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200 views but no replies?

Stop looking at your display?

Hard to tell without more info really. What was your screen on time? Any apps running in the background? Have you used an app like better battery stats to see if there are apps causing lots of wakelocks?
The display will always use the most amount of power, even on low brightness. So if you are using your phone a lot 20% an hour doesn't seem that ridiculous, at least compared to what kind of battery life I get with constant usage.
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Awizzle said:
Hard to tell without more info really. What was your screen on time? Any apps running in the background? Have you used an app like better battery stats to see if there are apps causing lots of wakelocks?
The display will always use the most amount of power, even on low brightness. So if you are using your phone a lot 20% an hour doesn't seem that ridiculous, at least compared to what kind of battery life I get with constant usage.
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But if I just do light browsing it's 20% per hour. I'm using autokill task managers and a limit of 1 background process in the settings. There are no apps causing lots of wake locks.

battery?
could be the battery?

Rockwings said:
But if I just do light browsing it's 20% per hour. I'm using autokill task managers and a limit of 1 background process in the settings. There are no apps causing lots of wake locks.
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I generally avoid task-killers. They tend to actually use more CPU to autokill apps that might not actually be doing anything in the background.

I would get rid of task killers also. After ginger bread there pretty useless. I am seconding the bad battery suggestion. I am on Scotts cm10 also and battery is pretty good. And its my original battery from almost 2 years ago now. Also I'm not very nice to my phone phone when it comes to charge cycles.
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I think the fact that you have 10% per hour usage while sleeping is more significant than 20% per hour with screen on (because you may be doing other things with screen on).
Have you tried Better Battery Stats to see if there are some programs keeping wakelocks.
Also maybe try turning off gps and internet connection to see if that makes a difference in screen off usage.

I would suggest a full wipe and re install as posted previously hard to tell with the info you have provided.

Crazy battery life
I attached a photo of my battery drain. It's hard for my battery to die since the 11/04 build came out. What I have been doing is shutting off data and wifi when not in use and I managed to get well over a day's worth of use.