With ICS being open source once it goes live do you guys think they will unlock the bootloader for the newer transformer models?
Arctiik said:
With ICS being open source once it goes live do you guys think they will unlock the bootloader for the newer transformer models?
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i think in dec they will release it =)
Not really worried to much about the release date. just wondering if anyone thinks they will unlock the bootloader when it does come out.
Arctiik said:
Not really worried to much about the release date. just wondering if anyone thinks they will unlock the bootloader when it does come out.
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yes, in dec i think they plan to release the key (if i did understand correctly)
Most of the newer transformers boot's are locked. i was wondering if anyone thinks ICS will unlock them so we can finally root the B70/B80/B90s Revisions.
Arctiik said:
Most of the newer transformers boot's are locked. i was wondering if anyone thinks ICS will unlock them so we can finally root the B70/B80/B90s Revisions.
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The OS has nothing to do with the bootloader. ICS will not unlock the bootloader
Yes, but they can push the coding with ICS to unlock it.
nm.... There is no point to it anymore. You can't fix stupid
Arctiik said:
Yes, but they can push the coding with ICS to unlock it.
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Root may be possible not bootloader tough
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either way the likely ness of the code coming out before ICS is released is slim to none and just watch the prime is gonna have the same nvflash.
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Yes, but they can push the coding with ICS to unlock it.
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If that was the case they wouldn't have locked it up to began with.
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Hi, sorry for noob question, but what is the easiest way to root the latest firmware? I don't want to unlock bootloader.
Downgrade to ICS? Aslo I would like to save my data (game progress etc.).
I read a lot of tuts, but I ever don't know what to do.
You can't downgrade. At this time, the only way is to unlock the bootloader and flash root in.
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funnel71 said:
You can't downgrade. At this time, the only way is to unlock the bootloader and flash root in.
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I have the same question, I have a stock firmware, locked (I guess), updated to the latest version.
Can I use the following guide?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33117920&postcount=2
This is the only guide I know that works - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30516010
Follow step 3
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I have modified the part 3 of this guide and you will find here:
Small guide for Install recovery and rooting when you are already to JB
When I'm trying to reboot bootloader - "no device found"
I have installed USB drivers.
Do I have to unlock bootloader?
bartek06 said:
When I'm trying to reboot bootloader - "no device found"
I have installed USB drivers.
Do I have to unlock bootloader?
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Sure you can IMO
You can do it on first.
Click to my sig, goto my index for tf300 and you will find the Asus unlock tool
But is it necessary? Can I root without unlocking?
As I said, if you are on JB bootloader, you cannot root without unlock your device...for the moment
philos64 said:
I have modified the part 3 of this guide and you will find here:
Small guide for Install recovery and rooting when you are already to JB
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hey dude is it work on tf300tg too?
shawshank61 said:
hey dude is it work on tf300tg too?
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I would like to say yes, but I fear that this won't work on your TF300TG... Sorry
I'm trying to unlock my bootloader via asus provided apk. I keep getting the error "An unknown error occurs, which maybe a network connection issue. please wait and try again later." Any know a fix for this?
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I would like to say yes, but I fear that this won't work on your TF300TG... Sorry
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i know u are really busy man but i also know if u want u can ) plz work on tf300tg if u want ) i like all developers <3
so it looks i'm like screwed? My TF300 is running JB and is not unlocked. And the ASUS unlock tool isn't working....so is there eventually going to have a way to root without unlock?
As I said a lot of time, you can't if you are not unlocked!
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philos64 said:
As I said a lot of time, you can't if you are not unlocked!
Swifted by Philos One X using xda premium somewhere between sky and earth
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In JB i can't root if i'm not unlocked. Is that "forever" or a "just for now" thing? Because ASUS's unlock tool is giving me the error that it can't connect to the server. Should I just ditch my tf300 now?
I have the same issue about this error message and I search how is possible to unlock my tab with different method. Someone have idea?
Thanks
Freebob94 said:
I have the same issue about this error message and I search how is possible to unlock my tab with different method. Someone have idea?
Thanks
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In the same boat as you. Sigh....asus....T_T
tjy8tim said:
In JB i can't root if i'm not unlocked. Is that "forever" or a "just for now" thing? Because ASUS's unlock tool is giving me the error that it can't connect to the server. Should I just ditch my tf300 now?
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I think it's "just for now" and they're going to develop one tool for JB 4.2. Don't forget that this tool has been built in first for ICS version.
Freebob94 said:
I have the same issue about this error message and I search how is possible to unlock my tab with different method. Someone have idea?
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For now, you cannot use an another way for unlock your device
thanks. as long as it's "just for now" i'm okay....T_T or else i'm ditching this tablet.
I want to know am I able to root and ROM this thing? I've done it to many phones before. It's not locked down or is it?
Thanks!
Scott
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You're definitely able to unlock and root this baby. The latest JB OTA just makes it slightly more difficult to unlock but it's still possible. If you get it and it still runs ICS, unlock and root and don't take that OTA.
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Scottay5150 said:
I want to know am I able to root and ROM this thing? I've done it to many phones before. It's not locked down or is it?
Thanks!
Scott
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The last time I checked all android based phones have a method to root and this phone is no different. If you check both android development sections you WILL see ROMs there to flash. Also if an android phone comes with an locked bootloader then there is a method to unlock it. This phone comes with a locked bootloader but there is an app for that.
Scottay5150 said:
I want to know am I able to root and ROM this thing? I've done it to many phones before. It's not locked down or is it?
Thanks!
Scott
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If there was only like some sort of forum-like site that would give you that info....that would be pretty cool. One can dream though. :silly:
Thanks to an African-Canadian Sock Monkey, we can unlock the bootloader.
a quick look in the development thread would of answered this, but yes, it's VERY simple to root and ROM this phone (coming from HTC phones)
Very simple - did mine while sitting at work goofing around...There's more and more ROMs available every day and you can get support for ANYTHING from all the awesome people here. I'm new to modding phones and I'm so impressed
Just an added note to thank all at XDA Developers who helped my unlock and root my HTC Thunderbolt and my current Galaxy S3.
There's really little need to root and flash the S3 other than to remove VZW's bloatware and I appreciate that but XDA Developers are essential to the Thunderbolt, it required rooting and flashing to make it function properly!
jmxc23 said:
Also if an android phone comes with a locked bootloader then there is a method to unlock it.
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Tell that to Motorola owners.
xs11e said:
There's really little need to root and flash the S3 other than to remove VZW's bloatware !
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I have to disagree with that statement. Rooting and ROMing, is absolutely necessary, if you can't stand SuckWiz.
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Tell that to Motorola owners.
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No kidding. They are locked up like Fort Knox on steroids.
They unlocked the dev version of a phone and the PhotonQ
if you took a bootloader unlocked HD and used SBF then you would have a locked bootloader again ???
just wonderring if that would be a way to go back?
thanks
idroidnow said:
if you took a bootloader unlocked hd and used sbf then you would have a locked bootloader again ???
Just wonderring if that would be a way to go back?
Thanks
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good question. My guess would be no. Hopefully since there is a root method for 4.1.2 someone will try and let us know...
it made sense to me that if would lock it again since its not a hardware based unlock and SBF sets it to factory. i know they can relock a bootloader with an OTA so why not a SBF?
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it made sense to me that if would lock it again since its not a hardware based unlock and sbf sets it to factory. I know they can relock a bootloader with an ota so why not a sbf?
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because when they put the sbf together they werent trying to relock the bootloader. I really have no idea, just speculating.
IF ANYONE HAS A LINK TO THE MAXX HD SBF ID BE WILLING TO TRY IT...
we need someone wiser then us
i just would li ek to know i could go back to locked for testing purposes.
idroidnow said:
we need someone wiser then us
i just would li ek to know i could go back to locked for testing purposes.
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i found the sbf from your other thread, ill try it and let you know
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i found the sbf from your other thread, ill try it and let you know
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thanks !!!
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if you took a bootloader unlocked HD and used SBF then you would have a locked bootloader again ???
just wonderring if that would be a way to go back?
thanks
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No, SBF will not relock the bootloader. The unlock method for all consumer HD's blows the QFuse, once it's blown it cannot be unblown.
Meaning your device cannot be re-locked. After I unlocked I SBF'd back to ICS, just to start fresh, before loading up CM 10.1. Hope this answers your question.
thanks for the answer. was hoping it would lock it back. ooh well.
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thanks for the answer. Was hoping it would lock it back. Ooh well.
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doesnt touch bootloader, it stays unlocked
Is there any method to lock it? At all?
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Where is the sbf file at if you don't mind me asking
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dustin4863 said:
Where is the sbf file at if you don't mind me asking
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Take a look here: http://sbf.droid-developers.org/vanquish_u/list.php
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Is there any method to lock it? At all?
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I don't think this is possible and if it is only Motorola knows.
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Can someone please explain to me what are the advantages of having an unlocked boot loader.
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xblackchaosx said:
can someone please explain to me what are the advantages of having an unlocked boot loader.
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for one youll always have a way to root your phone. Fastbooting twrp/cwm means you can flash su even if moto blocks existing exploits. That in itself is good enough for me.
Apparently, the guy who discovered the unlock also answered this: no, it can never be relocked. Unlocking blows a QFuse on the phone that can never be unblown given the physical nature of the fuse.
I'll tell you how, maybe a week or 3 from now, AT&T and Motorola will finish bloating up there update and use some excuse such as security to re lock the bootloader.
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I'll tell you how, maybe a week or 3 from now, AT&T and Motorola will finish bloating up there update and use some excuse such as security to re lock the bootloader.
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There is no way for moto or anyone to re-lock our bootloaders once they are unlocked. The only thing that can happen now is that Moto can make an update that can prevent us from unlocking/rooting if the new phone comes with this new firmware or we take the ota without being rooted and/or unlocked. No firmware patch/upgrade can re-lock once unlocked...
A few people on the atrix forums says otherwise. It makes me think, but Motorola would be wrong to do that now that they're owned by Google.
Hey guys huge beginner on this type of stuff. I have one simple question though.
I know there is now a way to Root my phone, but not unlock the bootloader? So I'm wondering, is there any way for me to get a rom that is based off 4.3 at this current moment or am I out of luck?
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Hey guys huge beginner on this type of stuff. I have one simple question though.
I know there is now a way to Root my phone, but not unlock the bootloader? So I'm wondering, is there any way for me to get a rom that is based off 4.3 at this current moment or am I out of luck?
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Yes, you can root your phone. Rooting and unlocking the bootloader are two different things. If you're on the latest update, you won't be able to unlock anyway. If your BL isn't unlocked, you won't be able to use any of the 4.3 based ROMs. I don't think there have been any developed for use on SafeStrap.
If your on the new update you can't unlock your bootloader. Which means the best you'll get get is debloated stock roms.
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If your on the new update you can't unlock your bootloader. Which means the best you'll get get is debloated stock roms.
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I'm listening....? "debloated stock rom"?
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I'm listening....? "debloated stock rom"?
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Debloated stock just means is the Verizon builds, just with some of the extra software taken out and tweaked. It's not like cyanogen mod which had more options and tweaks. But with a locked bootloader its the best your gonna get.
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Debloated stock just means is the Verizon builds, just with some of the extra software taken out and tweaked. It's not like cyanogen mod which had more options and tweaks. But with a locked bootloader its the best your gonna get.
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However, you can use Xposed Framework to do a lot of modding/tweaking to a stock ROM. I am running a custom ROM, but I still use Xposed for a lot of things. You can theme your stock ROM in ways that are very similar to having a theme manager on AOSP ROMs.
have you verified for sure that you cannot unlock the bootloader? it doesn't hurt to try, unless you already tried.
What version is the build?
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have you verified for sure that you cannot unlock the bootloader? it doesn't hurt to try, unless you already tried.
What version is the build?
Sent from my Droid RAZR MAXX HD under an Eclipse.
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system version 9.18.79 so i'm assuming it isn't possible
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system version 9.18.79 so i'm assuming it isn't possible
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Yup. That's the version you don't want to see if you haven't unlocked the boot loader.
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Yup. That's the version you don't want to see if you haven't unlocked the boot loader.
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Unless his BL was unlocked prior to that update.
Oops. Double post for some reason!
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Unless his BL was unlocked prior to that update.
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Which is why I said if you haven't unlocked the bootloader.
Once it's unlocked, it's unlocked. You can't lock it back up because apparently, it's a physical change in the phone, such as a fuse being blown or something like that. At least, that's what I've read. http://blog.azimuthsecurity.com/2013/04/unlocking-motorola-bootloader.html
Apparently, it's something Qualcomm has created called a QFuse. These are software programmable fuses that once blown, they can NEVER be put back to their prior state. In Motorola devices, there is a FORCE_TRUSTED_BOOT QFuse. This is all explained by Dan Rosenburg who is the developer that gave us the ability to unlock our Droid RAZR HDs. it's a good read and explains a lot.
Of course, it never hurts to try and unlock it after downgrading back to the previous version.
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Of course, it never hurts to try and unlock it after downgrading back to the previous version.
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doesn't hurt but is 100% pointless, as the system version has nothing to do with the trust zone files that cant be changed back.
the system version serves as a reference point to when it used to be possible in relation to the other files that were irrevocably updated, nothing more.
...As I'm sure many others like me will visit this forum, read guide disclaimers, and still ask themselves "is it really true??"
If we accept the latest OTA (186.43.15) WITHOUT unlocking the bootloader, we are screwed. There is absolutely, positively, nothing that can be done (hacking, version rollback, etc.) with the phone forever. The bootloader has been locked and we're stuck with what we've got. No way to unlock it now.
So, is it really true? Please say it ain't so.
Yes, it is true, at least with the Motopocalypse method. There are other ways to bootloader unlock phones such as Sunshine, but I think that only supports newer Motorola devices.
http://theroot.ninja/
Also, you have to be rooted. If Towelroot doesn't work on the latest OTA (no idea if it does or not) then you'd have to wait for a new exploit.
Thanks for the reply.
What's most frustrating about this is that I knew it was coming, I knew the bootloader was going to be locked by the next OTA but I was too nervous to unlock the bootloader and possibly brick my wifes phone in the process. She would be pissed.
The system update notifier kept bugging her and I kept telling her to not to do it and eventually she just she went ahead with it. Ugh.
Crossing my fingers for new exploit...
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TheAscension said:
Thanks for the reply.
What's most frustrating about this is that I knew it was coming, I knew the bootloader was going to be locked by the next OTA but I was too nervous to unlock the bootloader and possibly brick my wifes phone in the process. She would be pissed.
The system update notifier kept bugging her and I kept telling her to not to do it and eventually she just she went ahead with it. Ugh.
Crossing my fingers for new exploit...
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Forget another bootloader unlock exploit. That was a once-in-a-lifetime chance. As for root, well, there might be, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Of course, that's what we all said when the first KK OTA came out and look what they gave us - Towelroot AND bootloader unlock, but the bootloader unlock was a mistake - they accidentally reverted part of the code back to the original exploit code. So, that was a mistake on Moto's part.
But, this latest OTA is the last OTA for this phone. No more updates from Moto so don't expect the bootloader exploit to show up again.
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Forget another bootloader unlock exploit. That was a once-in-a-lifetime chance. As for root, well, there might be, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Of course, that's what we all said when the first KK OTA came out and look what they gave us - Towelroot AND bootloader unlock, but the bootloader unlock was a mistake - they accidentally reverted part of the code back to the original exploit code. So, that was a mistake on Moto's part.
But, this latest OTA is the last OTA for this phone. No more updates from Moto so don't expect the bootloader exploit to show up again.
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That's what I was afraid of. Same thing happened on my Droid X once updated to the last build of 2.3.4
I guess the bottom line is this: I don't care that much about the final KK build as much as I care about wifi hotspot tethering. That's really what I'm after. After her phone was updated to KK from JB it killed the tethering app that we were using. So my only recourse was to flash the phone back to JB. But I just didn't have the time to mess with it, plus it's my wife's phone and I didn't want to risk bricking it.
Near as I can tell, after quite a bit of searching, I don't have any way to fix tethering with this latest build. I'll ask the question in the Q&A section.
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That's what I was afraid of. Same thing happened on my Droid X once updated to the last build of 2.3.4
I guess the bottom line is this: I don't care that much about the final KK build as much as I care about wifi hotspot tethering. That's really what I'm after. After her phone was updated to KK from JB it killed the tethering app that we were using. So my only recourse was to flash the phone back to JB. But I just didn't have the time to mess with it, plus it's my wife's phone and I didn't want to risk bricking it.
Near as I can tell, after quite a bit of searching, I don't have any way to fix tethering with this latest build. I'll ask the question in the Q&A section.
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Exactly what version of KK is she on? If she's still on 183.46.10, then that allows the bootloader to be unlocked which will then allow you to root it and then apply a tethering hack.
If, however, you are on 183.46.14 or 183.46.15, then yes, you are hosed and cannot revert back to 183.46.10 or JB.
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Exactly what version of KK is she on? If she's still on 183.46.10, then that allows the bootloader to be unlocked which will then allow you to root it and then apply a tethering hack.
If, however, you are on 183.46.14 or 183.46.15, then yes, you are hosed and cannot revert back to 183.46.10 or JB.
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She has 183.46.15. Only option at this point is to exchange it for a used one that hasn't been updated...
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She has 183.46.15. Only option at this point is to exchange it for a used one that hasn't been updated...
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Yup. That's unfortunate. Just wanted to make sure.
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That's what I was afraid of. Same thing happened on my Droid X once updated to the last build of 2.3.4
I guess the bottom line is this: I don't care that much about the final KK build as much as I care about wifi hotspot tethering. That's really what I'm after. After her phone was updated to KK from JB it killed the tethering app that we were using. So my only recourse was to flash the phone back to JB. But I just didn't have the time to mess with it, plus it's my wife's phone and I didn't want to risk bricking it.
Near as I can tell, after quite a bit of searching, I don't have any way to fix tethering with this latest build. I'll ask the question in the Q&A section.
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Not trying to hijack the thread and get it sidetracked, but just fyi, in case you didn't know, Droid X is up on CM11 now.
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Not trying to hijack the thread and get it sidetracked, but just fyi, in case you didn't know, Droid X is up on CM11 now.
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Thanks for the heads up!
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Yup. That's unfortunate. Just wanted to make sure.
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She actually hasn't been happy with her XT926, so I think I might just buy a used phone of the same generation and mod it. If successful, we'll just swap the hacked one onto her account. I'm thinking Galaxy S3? I'd be curious to know what the "most hackable" phone of that generation is (JB or early KK)? Or should I post that question in the XDA General? I've searched and haven't found that question asked.
Damn :/ I just bought RAZR MAXX HD on ebay and I was sure there will be no problems with unlocking and rooting the phone. But the system version is 183.46.15 :/
Anyone in Poland wants to buy a RAZR MAXX HD?
jacek607 said:
Damn :/ I just bought RAZR MAXX HD on ebay and I was sure there will be no problems with unlocking and rooting the phone. But the system version is 183.46.15 :/
Anyone in Poland wants to buy a RAZR MAXX HD?
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Did you boot it into fastboot mode and ensure whether it's already been unlocked or not? You might get lucky if they already unlocked it.
I've checked it - it is locked :/
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I've checked it - it is locked :/
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Bummer.
Is anybody working on method of unlock the bootloader and root for razr maxx hd with 183.46.15?
no
Do you know if is possible to go fron .15 to JB using RSD litle ?
farid2014 said:
Do you know if is possible to go fron .15 to JB using RSD litle ?
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Not possible if your boot loader is locked.
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Do you know if is possible to go fron .15 to JB using RSD litle ?
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Sure as long as you are already unlocked.
Edit, I didn't see Rik's post, same answer, different angle lol
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Not possible if your boot loader is locked.
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I have the code : 3 that means I can down grade right?
Thanks