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which phone would be the best to get?

so i am coming from sprint with a Samsung Epic 4g (we dont have 4g in des moines ia) and well i have to get a phone on the 16th and the phones i am lookin at are
Samsung droid charge,HTC thunderbolt , and the Motorola droid x2
and im wondering which phone would be the best to get? i dont think 4g matters as there is no 4g here and i mostly use my phone for emulators,email,IM,texting,and alot of web, what would be the best phone to get? i dont take pics and well i never use video chat before for a front facing cam on my epic
what phone would u guys choose?
also im a root user and love flashing roms

i mean verzion lol wow

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icebear8 said:
so i am coming from sprint with a Samsung Epic 4g (we dont have 4g in des moines ia) and well i have to get a phone on the 16th and the phones i am lookin at are
Samsung droid charge,HTC thunderbolt , and the Motorola droid x2
and im wondering which phone would be the best to get? i dont think 4g matters as there is no 4g here and i mostly use my phone for emulators,email,IM,texting,and alot of web, what would be the best phone to get? i dont take pics and well i never use video chat before for a front facing cam on my epic
what phone would u guys choose?
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I'm on Sprint but I work at a Verizon retail store. I've used all the phones. The Droid X2 is not much of any upgrade from the Droid X. It's basically a Droid X without a camera button, and with a dual core CPU. Not really worth it, especially since it has an encrypted bootloader. I really like the Thunderbolt (I have an Evo), but if you're going to play a lot of games, get the Droid Charge. It has the same (or slightly better) CPU that's in the Epic, and the Thunderbolt doesn't quite compare in terms of speed. There's also the LG Revolution, which is Bing'd out, but is still a great phone. Personally, if you're going to be gaming, I say go for the Droid Charge.

i saw that the droid x2 has a duel core and well my epic has the same cpu as the charge is there a BIG speed difference in these phones? even after root and everything clean from crapware?
i saw the charge is 299$ where the droid x2 is 199$ is it rly worth the 100$ to get a single core cpu? i know the screen is bad ass on the charge but i heard the x2 is pretty darn good

Don't forget that there is more to the phone than fancy hardware. Droid X2 might be nice, but it still runs moto blur, a UI that often is rated as one of the worst ones of Android. I personally remember playing around with the original Droid X at the VZW store months back and the model on display was lagging from menu to menu.
Software > Hardware, at least in most cases.

icebear8 said:
i saw that the droid x2 has a duel core and well my epic has the same cpu as the charge is there a BIG speed difference in these phones? even after root and everything clean from crapware?
i saw the charge is 299$ where the droid x2 is 199$ is it rly worth the 100$ to get a single core cpu? i know the screen is bad ass on the charge but i heard the x2 is pretty darn good
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I won't lie, the latest version of Motoblur on the Droid X / Droid X2 is not bad at all (though a little laggy on the home screen). But the thing has an encrypted bootloader, which means you can't flash custom kernels, which means your ROM selection will be very limited. Also, the Gingerbread update also introduced something retarded: If you root and try to tether without a tethering plan, you will be redirected to a Verizon page to buy the plan every time you try to load a website.
I haven't used the Droid Charge enough to see differences from the Epic other than they use an orange/brown theme instead of blue on the Epic. Also, the Charge has 4G, so you'll be future-proof. On the other hand, the Droid X2 is dual-core so you'll be future-proofed in terms of performance (Android 2.3 and under don't make use of both cores). I'm really not sure how well it compares, or rather WILL compare against the GPU of the Charge, which is hard to beat.
In terms of price, I think the Droid X2 is priced pretty fairly. The Charge on the other hand is a $100 more and, besides HDMI output and 4G LTE, doesn't really add much to your Epic. In the end it's really up to you. You always have 30 days to change the phone. Drop into a Verizon store and try them out. But keep in mind that Quadrant Standard isn't optimized for dual cores and Neocore is optimized for Qualcomm (ie Snapdragon) chipsets.

i did forget to add a phone.... the sony xperia play i do play a ALOT of ps1 emualtor on my epic.... how is the xperia play? i mean i forgot it was even out lol im use to the 4inch screen but if its bad ass for games and then that maybe be the phone to get

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But keep in mind that Quadrant Standard isn't optimized for dual cores and Neocore is optimized for Qualcomm (ie Snapdragon) chipsets.
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Would someone mind explaining to a n00b what the above means? I too am considering the Thunderbolt (or maybe the Evo 3D).
TIA

he is talkin about benchmarkn its nothing really just a score on how fast is the phone and stuff but some programs are more into other CPUS then others so give more points to the slower cpu

icebear8 said:
i did forget to add a phone.... the sony xperia play i do play a ALOT of ps1 emualtor on my epic.... how is the xperia play? i mean i forgot it was even out lol im use to the 4inch screen but if its bad ass for games and then that maybe be the phone to get
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I've played with the Xperia play. The good thing about it is that it's mainly stock Android (no skin, but it does have extra Sony Widgets and some crapware). It comes with Crash Bandicoot (the PS1 version) and some Bruce Lee game, among other games. It played pretty smooth, but it only has a 1GHz Snapdragon, so nothing too impressive. If you want a video with a good benchmark, watch this one. It even compares it to other phones (ps the Optimus 2X has a Tegra 2):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_SyXQtcTmQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=102s
If you can hold off, the Galaxy S II, which is the most powerful Android phone out right now, will be coming to Sprint, Verizon, and AT&T anywhere from July to August. It's all unofficial as of now, but they're definitely coming because they've been named (AT&T Attain, Sprint Within, Verizon Function).
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Would someone mind explaining to a n00b what the above means? I too am considering the Thunderbolt (or maybe the Evo 3D).
TIA
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Quadrant Standard and Neocore are benchmarking apps used to show the CPU and GPU capablities of a phone. The issue is that neither will give you an accurate result of the raw power of a phone.

Avoid Moto ATM
I used to be a staunch supporter of Motorola phones, but in the last couple years, especially with Android OS, they've been very lackluster to me. I support the phones in our office, and we've got several versions of Motos here that give us all sorts of issues. Its amazing what features that Moto manages to turn off natively that all other phones seem to have, plus they go out of their way to make it difficult to update to custom ROMs, etc.

I would definitely go with the TBolt, I've had mine for a couple months now and came from a N1 i was using with iWireless and love the TBolt, Rooted and running Gingerbread, everything works great

icebear8 said:
what phone would u guys choose? also im a root user and love flashing roms
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I have a Tbolt & I love it. Mainly because (1) it has 4G and (2) the *very* active dev community here. You may not be concerned with 4G now, but it may come to your area before you are allowed to upgrade phones, so that may be worth considering. Also, some of the TB kernels allow overclocking up to 1.92ghz. The DX2 will proly still give better emulator performance, but I'd bet an overclocked Tbolt would emulate better than a stock Droid Charge (an o/c'd Charge would be a different story. Idk if you can even o/c a Charge, I don't follow the Charge threads). The last time I checked the Charge rom dev section, it was pretty sparse. That will change as more devs get their hands on it, but for the moment you can't get flash happy with a Charge. The Charge's amoled screen is freaking gorgeous. There is nothing else like a Samsung amoled. Colors are really vivid & bright and black is *black*, not dark grey like on a lcd. The Charge's battery life is better than the Tbolt too. I don't know much about the DX2 but I do know that if you like playing with custom roms & kernels, the DX2's bootloader will be very frustrating. I have never messed with Moto Blur but the majority of comments I've read about it are not positive. Ultimately it's a matter of tradeoffs & what is most important to you. If you want the best emulator performance & don't mind giving up custom roms, go for DX2. If you want an awesome screen & can wait a few weeks for rom development to pan out, get the Charge. If you've gotta have custom roms/kernels *right now* & don't mind lackluster battery life, check out the Tbolt.
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bejahnel said:
I would definitely go with the TBolt, I've had mine for a couple months now and came from a N1 i was using with iWireless and love the TBolt, Rooted and running Gingerbread, everything works great
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I have a Tbolt & I love it. Mainly because (1) it has 4G and (2) the *very* active dev community here.
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If you want an awesome screen & can wait a few weeks for rom development to pan out, get the Charge. If you've gotta have custom roms/kernels *right now* & don't mind lackluster battery life, check out the Tbolt.
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Thunderbolt now or wait for Galaxy S II or Evo 3D?
Will the Bolt be outdated soon with dual processors out now? I'm in no real hurry and can wait a few months so I'm thinking of waiting for Galaxy S II since I've read it is going to be open source now.
In Los Angeles will it matter whether I'm on Sprint or Verizon as far as 4G performance goes? The speed tests I've found are outdated and one listed Verizon as the very worst performing network but they tested in Columbus, OH and people posted that it wasn't an accurate test because of that.

I would go with the thunderbolt, and i just did a few days ago actually. It has the most dev support on here and I hate moto with a passion so the choice was easy for me.
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Why no Atrix. 2?

No forum for the Atrix 2 on xda? There's already one for the razor and its not even out yet. The A2 is a great phone. Why no love?
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ogdroid said:
No forum for the Atrix 2 on xda? There's already one for the razor and its not even out yet. The A2 is a great phone. Why no love?
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perhaps because the atrix was so bad they're denying that there was ever a sequel... Kinda like they should've done with the grudge.

no idea
people were all over the original atrix, even though it used that terrible pentile display(to each his own). i have used the atrix 2 and it is awesome, beter lcd screen, better specs, better look, and only 100 dollars?. there will be a forum soon enough

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people were all over the original atrix, even though it used that terrible pentile display(to each his own). i have used the atrix 2 and it is awesome, beter lcd screen, better specs, better look, and only 100 dollars?. there will be a forum soon enough
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I'm sure there will, I was just kidding. The atrix just had a plethora of software issues.

The atrix 2 seems like a waste to me. Why do you want an "updated" atrix that has the same stats as the original and less memory? Seems like a rip-off to me.

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Water of time? Don't see how. Internal storage being reduced doesn't seem like a deal breaker to me. Great display, omap processor, good camera, and great battery life. And for only 99.99? Can't go wrong.
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Atrix 2 real world speed is a Big + than the OG Atrix. My friend has the og atrix and i hate that thing! Finger scanner dont work, its slooooooow, i mean he done reset, root and flashed a rom, every kind of nick and nack and the phone is still slow! I got a g2x and it dont even feel like the atrix has tegra 2 processors! I know the g2x is vanilla, but STILL. Im going to att, after my month is up with T-Horrible, and its either the atrix 2 or the SGS2? But right now the a2 looking like a winner!

The Atrix 2 is a good phone. The screen alone is worthy of an upgraded model. I lost my Atrix 1 and bought an Atrix 2, it's a superior phone, but almost no development is happening right now because xda won't open a forum.

be sure to vote for atrix 2 forum here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1301121

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The atrix just had a plethora of software issues.
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Please elaborate
I've had my Atrix 2 for a week now, got mine from Best Buy for $49.99 w/2yr contract. Also picked up an Atrix 4g for my son for $29.99 last night. Here are my thoughts
I have played with all the Android phones AT&T carries other than the SGSII which they didn't have in my local store and the Atrix 2 is superior to any of them. The phone is very fast and snappy and has no lag at all, even when running multiple apps simultaneously. The screen being as large as it is, 4.3", doesn't make the phone itself overly large or feeling as if you're holding a brick. The device is comfortable to hold, feels well made and looks very classy with the beveled Gorilla glass screen and black chrome looking trim around the topside outer edge of the phone.
The hardware stacks up well against other high end Android phones with it's 1GHz dual core TI OMAP 4430 CPU and PowerVR SGX 540 GPU, 1GB RAM, 8mp rear camera that records in 1080p, 1.3mp front camera, 4.3" qHD display sporting 540 X 960 resolution. I'm coming from a decent Android device, the SE X10 which I rooted, debranded and was running Wolfbreaks Xperia GB rom v6.0....there still isn't a root available for my phone yet and there is very little that my X10 could do that my A2 can't. I've already gotten rid of the bloatware, changed the launcher, changed the lockscreen, installed custom icons for things like dialer, camera, browser, etc., and can take screenshots too. Hard to imagine this phone can get any better than what it already is......until we get ICS at least

We now have root!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1305318
Please admins we need a forum.
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Atrix 2 coming this week.

svetius said:
Atrix 2 coming this week.
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THANK YOU!
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svetius said:
Atrix 2 coming this week.
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Yes!!!!! Thank you
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Somebody convince me the Atrix 2 is better than OG

I am thinking of getting either the Atrix 2 or the Atrix 4G on ATT, the A2 is basically $100 more and the hardware seems very similar. You get a bigger screen, and a better camera...but I could convince myself I would prefer the form factor of a smaller one and don't care too much about the camera. The processors are different...but spec out about the same.
Plus, with the bootloader unlocked on the 4G...all of the software advantages pretty much go it's way.
Anybody got a case for the A2?

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I am thinking of getting either the Atrix 2 or the Atrix 4G on ATT, the A2 is basically $100 more and the hardware seems very similar. You get a bigger screen, and a better camera...but I could convince myself I would prefer the form factor of a smaller one and don't care too much about the camera. The processors are different...but spec out about the same.
Plus, with the bootloader unlocked on the 4G...all of the software advantages pretty much go it's way.
Anybody got a case for the A2?
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OG will only get ics ported. ATRIX 2 will get the real deal.
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I am not going to give you a bunch reasons why to go get this phone, because it is personal thing, and the decision is yours.
I will give you two things to think about.
1) The Atrix has an unlocked bootloader and can run a ton of ROMS, and kerenels. There will not be a lot of tinkering and playing, since it has all been done before.
2) The Atrix 2 is only 75 days old, or so, from release date. Not all of the hacking has even been found yet, and we are a small group here, that has not been tainted yet with a lot of bad stuff. So there is a lot of tinkering and playing yet to be done. If you like that sort of thing, then.... We are going to have our first ROM early next week, I am thinking of releasing it.

I know after I showed my Atrix2 to my co-worker who has the Atrix, he went out and bought it has done nothing but tell me how much more he likes it than his original Atrix. Utlimately, like Jim said, it will come down to personal preferrence, if you get it from AT&T, you get 30 days to try it out. I know that I personally love this phone, even in its "unmodded" state.

@jimbridgman: I do like to tinker...I am an Electrical Engineer by trade. Although I have done quite a bit of software development on various platforms, I have never tinkered much in the mobile world. I understand the devices on a very low chip to chip level...and on a very high software level, but could probably use the hands on to try to pick up some of the implementation details in between. That might be what wins me over in the end.
@tylercarter: Also good point about ICS
As you could probably see by my wording...I am leaning that way I just need a push. Thanks for your replies

Go play with both if them in a local AT&T store. The differences stock are very apparent when messing around with them. The ATRIX 2 wins pure stock and the screen is awesome but put some customization on the OG ATRIX and it really comes alive.
Just depends on how patient you can be and which one serves you best as they are both good choices.

Ok, I got the ATRIX 2 and you guys are right...it is blazing fast. Now what I need is reading material that sumerizes the dev process. Is the bootloader propriotory? Is it locked with a pin held high, some software method(mda hash or something ). I need like a high level description of the problems...I can help.

anderwm said:
Ok, I got the ATRIX 2 and you guys are right...it is blazing fast. Now what I need is reading material that sumerizes the dev process. Is the bootloader propriotory? Is it locked with a pin held high, some software method(mda hash or something ). I need like a high level description of the problems...I can help.
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Read the posts in the android section man all the juicy details are located there and why ur at it check the other sections to can't hurt to do ur own research first then ask questions that may have already been answered
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anderwm said:
Ok, I got the ATRIX 2 and you guys are right...it is blazing fast. Now what I need is reading material that sumerizes the dev process. Is the bootloader propriotory? Is it locked with a pin held high, some software method(mda hash or something ). I need like a high level description of the problems...I can help.
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Well, yes the bootloader is locked, and we are looking for an unlocked one in the dev section here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1376
bootloader thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1328714
Rom stuff if you are interested:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1404442
The Development thread is a little quite right now, since there is a lot going on behind the scenes right now. We are a pretty small group of hackers, and we all seem to work very well together and each of us brings something different to the table and we all have this phone in common.
Welcome to the fold, and check out the thread for those new to this phone, it is helpful.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1396650

Have a Thunderbolt and Verizon is Offering me a Replacement to Another Phone

Guys...
I have a Thunderbolt and due to the length of time I have been with Verizon and issues I have had, they are giving me a new phone of my choice (not a refurb).
What phone would you all go to (those who root and use custom ROMs) if you had your choice of any phone. Keep in mind I have always liked Sense Rom's but have never had a Motorola phone or a Nexus.
Please let me know!!!!
Thanks so much and have a happy new year!!!

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Guys...
I have a Thunderbolt and due to the length of time I have been with Verizon and issues I have had, they are giving me a new phone of my choice (not a refurb).
What phone would you all go to (those who root and use custom ROMs) if you had your choice of any phone. Keep in mind I have always liked Sense Rom's but have never had a Motorola phone or a Nexus.
Please let me know!!!!
Thanks so much and have a happy new year!!!
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I'm personally not very fond of Sense & Motoblur UI. I would suggest the Galaxy Nexus, especially if they are giving you a new phone (hopefully free for you) and one of the major reasons why I would is first and foremost the HD Super AMOLED screen in general PLUS it having a 1280x720 resolution on that beautiful 4.6" screen (black pixels actually turn off instead of illuminating and looking wasted out and colors are 10X more vibrant), the 1.2GHz dual-core processor, PURE Google phone so no custom UI and you get all the updates before any other phone, Android 4.0 (Mmm), 1850mAh battery (soooo much better than the Thunderbolt) and 1080p video recording.
For me that is the only phone that I would go with, especially as far as what phones are out now on Verizon (which aren't that impressive). That HD Super AMOLED screen is just too sweet to pass up!

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I'm personally not very fond of Sense & Motoblur UI. I would suggest the Galaxy Nexus, especially if they are giving you a new phone (hopefully free for you) and one of the major reasons why I would is first and foremost the HD Super AMOLED screen in general PLUS it having a 1280x720 resolution on that beautiful 4.6" screen (black pixels actually turn off instead of illuminating and looking wasted out and colors are 10X more vibrant), the 1.2GHz dual-core processor, PURE Google phone so no custom UI and you get all the updates before any other phone, Android 4.0 (Mmm), 1850mAh battery (soooo much better than the Thunderbolt) and 1080p video recording.
For me that is the only phone that I would go with, especially as far as what phones are out now on Verizon (which aren't that impressive). That HD Super AMOLED screen is just too sweet to pass up!
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Better than the Rezound or Razr?? Think I should wait for quad core?

Nexus all the way.

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Better than the Rezound or Razr?? Think I should wait for quad core?
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In my opinion I would say so because the Razr has an ugly amount of bezel around the LCD and the resolution is only 960x540 and has the Motoblur overlay and the Rezound is not too bad of a phone, I am just not too much of a fan of the Sense overlay either. I'm not sure but I think quad-core phones won't appear until around Quarter 2 or so of 2012.
Waiting is always not a bad idea, but the Galaxy Nexus is definitely worth it, again IMO. haha hopefully I was some help.

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Nexus all the way.
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This.
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I'm basically the same boat, and but I was told that I could have anything but the Nexus, which is very disappointing. My story is in a different thread further down...

aislepathlight said:
I'm basically the same boat, and but I was told that I could have anything but the Nexus, which is very disappointing. My story is in a different thread further down...
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What was the reason?

aislepathlight said:
I'm basically the same boat, and but I was told that I could have anything but the Nexus, which is very disappointing. My story is in a different thread further down...
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That's pretty messed up. If that's the case though, The HTC Rezound is a no brainier. It's similar spec'd and the display is gorgeous.

Think I should wait for the spring and keep my tbolt? Or is the Rezound or Nexus really worth it??

I think the nexus is definitely worth it.
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I'm basically the same boat, and but I was told that I could have anything but the Nexus, which is very disappointing. My story is in a different thread further down...
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Find out the most expensive phone they'll give you. Take that value, presuming it's lower than the Nexus, and offer to pay the difference.

howd you get a replacement? They sent me like 5 refurbs. Then finally they sent me a bionic, refurb, and I'm not real thrilled with it. It keeps forcing updates then failing and losing all my data. Kinda tired of dealing with these issues after paying 2400+ a year. At this point I would like to see if the rezound is any better, but they want me to shell out another 250 for the "privilege" of an early upgrade.

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howd you get a replacement? They sent me like 5 refurbs. Then finally they sent me a bionic, refurb, and I'm not real thrilled with it. It keeps forcing updates then failing and losing all my data. Kinda tired of dealing with these issues after paying 2400+ a year. At this point I would like to see if the rezound is any better, but they want me to shell out another 250 for the "privilege" of an early upgrade.
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I have a business account with several phones which allows me certain "perks"

Don't get a Charge
I had 2 thunderbolts and then did the charge when the random reboot started. Waited for the TB and glad I went back no comparison. Slow, everything, gps, data, email etc. Had a TB a month now and loving it.

I liked my bolt before it was rooted, now that it's rooted I love the sh*t out of it....but if you're in the mood for a change, I agree with the recommendation for the Nexus. I got to play with one for a good hour or so last week and really fell in love. I'm not 100% sure if it was the hardware or ICS that really appealed to me, but since you can get both at the same time, why not go for it?
I personally like the RAZR quite a bit too, but all things being equal, Nexus seems like the way to go.

I'm in the wait crowd. I want the specs of the nexus, but its got some important omissions. The GPU isn't up to snuff for a brand new top of the line phone, and its got no expansion slot for a microsd card. And, did I read the battery isn't user changeable?
I was excited by the nexus, but if the SGS3 is quad core, Super amoled HD (RGB, not pentile) and it can take a memo card, its worth the wait. I'm not so excited about the nexus since it came out.
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Hey, sorry about being away, for a while, long story. But the first one that I bought came with bad light leaks. The second one came badly scractched and dented. The next one was the one I had the bulk of the time, but the headphone jack ended up dieing. I was sent a replacement for that which came with a broken ear piece. The final one came with a damaged battery cover, which I just swapped with the previous phone, so no big deal.
The biggest complaint I have had is that they tried to charge me for one of the phones I had sent back, which took at least a half dozen calls and many hours to get fixed. They had sent me text messages saying that they had recieved the phone, but then a series of text messages saying that they were going to charge me for the phone not being returned. It took taking to a manager to check the future bills and a couple forms filled out for them to refund the charge.
More later...
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I'm on my 7th or 8th Thunderbolt. I've been having intermittent POP3 email problems ever since I've had the phone(s). I went to a Verizon store a couple of times recently when I had the issue and noticed that with the exact same settings, the Galaxy and the Rezound worked while the Thunderbolt did not. The Bionic and Razr also did not work.
Anyway, they won't let me have anything except for a Charge or Revolution. I think the Revolution is a lesser phone than the Thunderbolt, and I don't know if my POP3 account would work on the Charge. I would've tried it out, but either the store didn't have it or it wasn't working if they did.
Has anyone come across this same issue before? If so, what amount (and nature) of convincing did it take to get them to offer something better?
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Droid Maxx seems like a contender... just sayin. I have had my T-bolt for a year now and never had any issues with it

[Q] Motorola RAZR or Galaxy Nexus?

As the title suggests, which would you get if they were similarly priced? I can't really decide cos I want some features from each...
RAZR - Aluminium body and Kevlar back, really sturdy construction
Nexus - Curved HD screen, better GPU (by how much I don't really know)
I'm a fairly heavy user, currently on the Desire Z. Locally, the GN is not even released yet but will be in a few weeks, while the RAZR is already available.
I believe the RAZR is already rooted, which means development should be picking up, and the GN development is already gaining momentum.
The only thing I worry is that the RAZR might not be that popular with devs and the custom ROMs would be lacklustre. I don't have that worry with the GN cos well it's a Nexus.

Of course that galaxy nexus.
It has ics/gorilla glass/4.65" screen and a lot more..

And the RAZR will get it from custom ROMs as well, and internally they're almost identical. RAZR is also Gorilla Glass >.< That's why I find it really tough to decide.

G'day,
Im in the exact same situation. My DHD stopped working recently and i need a new phone. I was originally going to create the thread u just made XD.
Personally im going with the razr for several reasons.
The razr has a much better design, also, not that it really makes a difference but the razr has a larger memory capacity at 40/48gbs including a 32gb micro sd.
Also the razr has a much better battery life, from what i have heard. However i do see your point with the devs, but do u really need a custom rom for this? I dont see the point personally (at the moment). Motorolla have included some pretty handy apps like MotoCast + the smart actions ect and as i said this phone already does have root. You proabably know this but, ICS is coming to the RAZR and soon. I really dont mind waiting, simply because this phone is quite a bit faster and looks much better TBH. Also the speaker of the Razr is much better if u care
The Nexus only has a better screen over the Razr.
But the choice is yours You probably already know all this but i need to get my posts up
Best of luck!

ArmedandDangerous said:
And the RAZR will get it from custom ROMs as well, and internally they're almost identical. RAZR is also Gorilla Glass >.< That's why I find it really tough to decide.
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LOCKED BOOTLOADER!
Just get the Galaxy Nexus.
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Livewings said:
LOCKED BOOTLOADER!
Just get the Galaxy Nexus.
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Yes, but sooner or later it will be unlocked (hopefully). I guess I might go with the GN then~

Razr for sure!

ArmedandDangerous said:
Yes, but sooner or later it will be unlocked (hopefully). I guess I might go with the GN then~
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Yeah maybe but the Droid X bootloader is still locked. And look how long that phones been out. But they still get some great rims on the X. Miui and Cm7. I like the nexus for development purposes but the I like the razr for overall looks and feel of the phone. Lol. And I'm not really to much worried about the locked bootloader. If they get miui running on the razr I am down. :-D
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snapper915 said:
Yeah maybe but the Droid X bootloader is still locked. And look how long that phones been out. But they still get some great rims on the X. Miui and Cm7. I like the nexus for development purposes but the I like the razr for overall looks and feel of the phone. Lol. And I'm not really to much worried about the locked bootloader. If they get miui running on the razr I am down. :-D
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The problem with a locked bootloader is not the ability to use different ROM's..it is the ability to change your kernel. With a locked bootloader you can ONLY use the stock kernel. So say you get the RAZR...yes, it will be updated to ICS. Say android 5.0 (jellybean) comes out in september. If that happened, your razr MIGHT get the update by february. So while everone else is playing with CM10...you are still stuck with your ICS. Also, you will never be able to overclock or underclock your cpu, as the stock kernel does not allow it. You can't use fastboot...there is just too much that a locked bootloader doesn't allow for it to be a real option if you want to root your phone.

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The problem with a locked bootloader is not the ability to use different ROM's..it is the ability to change your kernel. With a locked bootloader you can ONLY use the stock kernel. So say you get the RAZR...yes, it will be updated to ICS. Say android 5.0 (jellybean) comes out in september. If that happened, your razr MIGHT get the update by february. So while everone else is playing with CM10...you are still stuck with your ICS. Also, you will never be able to overclock or underclock your cpu, as the stock kernel does not allow it. You can't use fastboot...there is just too much that a locked bootloader doesn't allow for it to be a real option if you want to root your phone.
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True but that's the thing. My friends Droid X is overclocked. Lol. And i play with kernels a lil bit but i mostly just use incredikernels. Which I will probally go with the nexus for the reasons u listed above but the razr is a sweet device.
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