Does ODIN somewhat scare you also? Positive and Negative experiences, i have heard more of the latter. What if we gather some devs. and develop a new flashing tool. Yes ODIN is works, and the features are great, but for "newbies", it can be quite scary for them, and they, as well as us, have a great chance of bricking our devices. Let me know what you think. Cheers!
No problems whatsoever with it. There is something else out there...Heimdall. It actually is scary.
Honestly, the only thing you could do to make it any better is take away some of the "don't touch" options. Remove Phone, remove EFS clear. You aren't going to make it any safer than it is when used properly, because you're still goign to be using the same protocols.
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No problems whatsoever with it. There is something else out there...Heimdall. It actually is scary.
Honestly, the only thing you could do to make it any better is take away some of the "don't touch" options. Remove Phone, remove EFS clear. You aren't going to make it any safer than it is when used properly, because you're still goign to be using the same protocols.
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Thats a great idea! And maybe make it a bit more user friendly, "easier" to flash your ROMS, at least until they get CWM on their devices, then it's a piece of cake, but we all know that's a lie
I just follow the directions in the stickys and all is good. I use it and if I forget just look it back up.
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I just follow the directions in the stickys and all is good. I use it and if I forget just look it back up.
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I just don't want that 13 year old kid bricking his brand new 4G device he got for his birthday
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I just don't want that 13 year old kid bricking his brand new 4G device he got for his birthday
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Because then they come and yell at us.
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Because then they come and yell at us.
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Never an issue flashing through Odin. The check boxes should be right as soon as you open the program. All you should have to do is click PDA then select the file and hit "start." If you ever need walked through the process, you can send me a message on GTalk @[email protected]
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Does ODIN somewhat scare you also? Positive and Negative experiences, i have heard more of the latter. What if we gather some devs. and develop a new flashing tool. Yes ODIN is works, and the features are great, but for "newbies", it can be quite scary for them, and they, as well as us, have a great chance of bricking our devices. Let me know what you think. Cheers!
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Nope not scared at all follow directions and everything is golden, screw it up and it can be fixed. See imnuts post how to fix your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1111486
Almost impossible to brick a sammy phone so quite being a little girl and flash with odin
Scared???? all you have to do is follow directions....and click.....why be scared....very hard to brick this baby!!!
I think it is the most straight forward rooting phone out!
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Does ODIN somewhat scare you also? Positive and Negative experiences, i have heard more of the latter. ...they, as well as us, have a great chance of bricking our devices.
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The reason you have heard more of the latter is because those people need help and come here to look and ask for it (which is expected). Those that have success using ODIN don't post that they successfully used it (except for cases like this thread).
I've used ODIN for over a year now on both my Fascinate and now my Charge, and I can only remember one issue where the flashing with ODIN didn't complete properly. That was because of a bad download. I tried it again, and when it didn't flash for the 2nd time, I came back here and downloaded the file a 2nd time, and that worked perfectly. It is almost impossible to hard brick your phone (won't work again) with ODIN. You might get your phone to not boot up, but you should be able to use ODIN again to get it flashed correctly and working.
The simple answer is if you read directions, then double and triple check everything before you click start, you'll be fine. If your still scared you shouldn't be rooting your phone! Or fork out the dough and send your phone in for un-brickable mod and never worry again!
~Sent using my Humble Charge~
Have flashed with ODIN dozens of times. After all that, I had only a couple of occasions where the phone would boot-loop. That was easily overcome by following the "How to fix your phone" instructions.
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I just rooted my Captivate. Tired of waiting on AT&T/Samsung to bring the goods, plus I love this kind of thing. I followed this procedure to root the device. "http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739304"
It worked like a charm! Now on to bigger and better things...
Thanks to TGA_Gunnman for the instructions!
Congratulations on your very successful accomplishment. You should embrace this moment with joy and bliss. It is truly an honor.
Seriously tho, get crackin on some roms. Kthxbailmaoimhigh
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Funny when I read the word "Kthxbailmaoimhigh" I immediately pictured Cowboy Wayne getting attacked by a raccoon...
Anyway, where is a good place to start looking for roms?
Here. Make sure to backup your NV_data.bin or your whole /efs folder is better. just in case...
And Gratz!
EFS Backup here is the one I followed.
[ROMS]
Axura
di11igaf's
Perception < I would wait for Perc 10 to roll out.
Odin One Click really good thing to have and learn to use.
Cognition
Just look in the Dev section and you shall find many. **hopefully the devs will get them into rom manager eventually**
If I already backed up my current rom through ROM manager, does it take care of that?
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If I already backed up my current rom through ROM manager, does it take care of that?
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I wouldn't chance it. I just edited the last post to give you some links. I'm really not sure that that method is the perfered or not. so I just copied the whole folder with adb to my computer. You have adb in the "one Click root" app, get used to using it. It comes in handy in bad situations.
Oh, and there is a different Odin for flashing other roms with, though I've never looked for it. From my understanding it's what you will need to use if you ever wish to restore from a nandroid backup while completely wiping the phone first.
Course that's just my understand from what I've read on it.
Good luck, have a blast! give Axura 2.5 a spin, you might like it.
Welcome. Rooted a while back but finally installed my first ROM over the weekend. Cognition for now...and very very happy and eagerly awaiting some cookies. From all the reading I did, it seemed like the easiest to start with for a beginner (someone here did a great 3 part video walk-through of Cognition on you tube).
Yeah, I started out with Perception 9, switched to Axura while the file system thing gets worked out. May endup staying Axura though I haven't gone through the videos though and I keep forgetting bout them. I started flashing back on the 8525, so I'm used to written directions. How were the videos? were they easy to follow and understand?
Successfully backed up my efs folder...
No problems to report as of now...
Back ground in Linux makes this all quite easy!
Now looking for the roms....Which ones are the bombs? Was that corny???
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Successfully backed up my efs folder...
No problems to report as of now...
Back ground in Linux makes this all quite easy!
Now looking for the roms....Which ones are the bombs? Was that corny???
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lol, nah. well, the ones I linked to seem to the the most worked on as they are always at the top of the forum. Axura's Dev Adam seems to be on top of his creation. he's usually really fast at answering questions too. Perception is a nice rom too, but like I said I'd wait for 10 to roll out. Designgears again seems to be on top of things. he yanked perc 9 off the download list soon as he saw Samsung screwed the pouch on the file system bug even though he didnt use that particular kernal. for safeties sake. those are my two favorites. Cognition isnt bad, seems stable and gave me no problems.
Also, when I was using Perc 9 (till 4 hours ago), I had voicemail notifications. I noticed the others dont seem to notify me. I thought it might be the nv_data.bin so I copied my original over but that didnt seem to help.
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Yeah, I started out with Perception 9, switched to Axura while the file system thing gets worked out. May endup staying Axura though I haven't gone through the videos though and I keep forgetting bout them. I started flashing back on the 8525, so I'm used to written directions. How were the videos? were they easy to follow and understand?
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I thought the videos were very good. This is the one I used - 3 parts.
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Also, when I was using Perc 9 (till 4 hours ago), I had voicemail notifications. I noticed the others dont seem to notify me. I thought it might be the nv_data.bin so I copied my original over but that didnt seem to help.
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I read that the voicemail issue is due to the ROM being Vibrant-based. The recommended fix is to use Google Voice and have it push voicemail notifications via text message (as well as transcribing via email).
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I just rooted my Captivate. Tired of waiting on AT&T/Samsung to bring the goods, plus I love this kind of thing. I followed this procedure to root the device. "http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739304"
It worked like a charm! Now on to bigger and better things...
Thanks to TGA_Gunnman for the instructions!
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I to can not wait any longer for AT&T/Samsung to deliver 2.2. So I just flash my rom to cognition 2.3b6. Going to upgrade to cognition 2.3b8 this weekend
Note: I'm posting this on multiple forums to receive more varied feedback, so if you see it in a couple places, please don't get upset.
I'm thinking of getting rid of my Inspire for a Nexus One. I'm frankly disappointed in the battery life and the customization options available to me. I've been reading these forums for quite awhile, so I'm very aware of all the options I have with my Inspire -- telling me that I can root "following this guide" or whatnot isn't going to be a game-changer for me.
What are your thoughts? What will I miss going from the Inspire to the Nexus One? What might I like better about the Nexus One? Is the trackball really that exciting?
If I do end up looking to do it, what do I have to look for when getting one? I know they sold them for TMo only first, and then brought out an AT&T compatible one. I've heard that there were two different screens available for them, does anyone have a preference or know what the difference might be? If I do end up looking for one, where should I look? Do you think there would be people willing to trade a Nexus One for an Inspire plus some cash?
I've already done a backup to the SD card via My Backup Pro - if I get a Nexus One, should I just have to insert the SIM and SD card and restore everything, or do I have to worry about more than that?
Any thoughts or advice is welcome! Thank you!
What customization options are you disappointed about? Just remember the Inspire is just 2 months old and look how far we have gotten with it so far.
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True, I do recognize that I'm posting in the XDA forums! I'm speaking of a stock, unrooted Inspire. I'm not willing to root this phone -- after reading nearly everything there is to read on it, I'm convinced I will break it or get lost. I know my limits, and this is it. If there was a way to root without needing a gold card or downgrading or any of that, I might be in. There are many phones out there that can even be rooted without losing your info! This is complicated. At this point I'd simply be following directions whose actual meaning I'd be completely lost to, and just hoping that everything was done right in the right order. And if something went wrong, I'd have no idea where or how in between S-off, gold cards, downgrading, radios, sound issues, Eng S-off, etc.
I'm not knocking the people here, you have done amazing things with a phone that did NOT want to be rooted/customized. I'm just not able to take advantage of what you've done, because to be honest -- it is all above my head. And I'm not willing to be one of those people with the "Help! I think I turned my Inspire into a rabbit" threads.
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True, I do recognize that I'm posting in the XDA forums! I'm speaking of a stock, unrooted Inspire. I'm not willing to root this phone -- after reading nearly everything there is to read on it, I'm convinced I will break it or get lost. I know my limits, and this is it. If there was a way to root without needing a gold card or downgrading or any of that, I might be in. There are many phones out there that can even be rooted without losing your info! This is complicated. At this point I'd simply be following directions whose actual meaning I'd be completely lost to, and just hoping that everything was done right in the right order. And if something went wrong, I'd have no idea where or how in between S-off, gold cards, downgrading, radios, sound issues, Eng S-off, etc.
I'm not knocking the people here, you have done amazing things with a phone that did NOT want to be rooted/customized. I'm just not able to take advantage of what you've done, because to be honest -- it is all above my head. And I'm not willing to be one of those people with the "Help! I think I turned my Inspire into a rabbit" threads.
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HTC Inspire on CM7. Beast ROM. If I helped Thank me
I wouldn't touch a Nexus One with a ten foot pole. I am too used to using modern tech. That phone is very dated and feels every month of it. It would be like me giving up my Inspire for an iPhone 3G. If I were to move to the Nexus, I'd definitely be looking at the Nexus S. It's still an older tech phone, but has a nicer screen, it's lighter, and has a great support community.
However, I really can't think of anything you could do with the Nexus One that you can't with the Inspire... Every rom you could think of is here on this phone. The Captivate devs are almost all over here now, so we have that going for us. Of course, I'm in an HSPA+ area, so I'd also be taking a nose dive in data speed.
Oh yea, and using the newest version of the LeeDroid rom with SetCPU on the "Smartass" governer, I'm just now pluggin my phone in at the 34 hour mark with 5 hours of screen time... That's pretty damn good, if I do say so my damn self.
Many of your points involve rooting, which I've already said worries me. I'm a perfectly capable computer person, but the phone tech is daunting to me. I don't know where to start, and most of the terminology is worrying. You say it's easier than it looks, but that's because you've done it! To me looking in from the outside, it's so far beyond me it's like wanting to live on a base on the moon...
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Many of your points involve rooting, which I've already said worries me. I'm a perfectly capable computer person, but the phone tech is daunting to me. I don't know where to start, and most of the terminology is worrying. You say it's easier than it looks, but that's because you've done it! To me looking in from the outside, it's so far beyond me it's like wanting to live on a base on the moon...
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Don't sweat it, man. Just hop into the "One Click Root" thread in the Development forum. It'll outline what you need to have before starting the process. It will guide you step by step through what you need to do. It's a headache when you first do it, but after that you'll be flashing like a champ. It's addictive. Feel free to PM me if you want to go through it together. I'll be more than happy to help. Just make sure you do everything with a fully charged battery.
One Click Root thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961406
Also, there's a video in the top part of the first post. It's for an earlier version of the root app, but it's still very viable and lets you watch someone do it before you go through it.
Maybe he will like that with the N1 you can have a dirty trackball(since most are used now) that can change colors? You know colors with a "Brownish" tint.
The only thing advantage I could think of is there is a chance to use a cheaper data plan with the N1. But then again, the last time I used a N1 was a yr ago, so now the IMEIs may be recognized by ATT. But not sure if the OP realizes that you can do this.
Yeah, I've kinda dismissed the whole "Stick it to AT&T and use a $10 data plan!" thing. From what I can tell, the ones who do it are pretty much just lucky at this point. If you can say being stuck on Edge is lucky...
*takes a deep breath* Okay, maybe I'll look into this whole rooting business. I'd say I've been through about 1/3 of the pages in that one click root thread... Seems like a fair few people are getting things mucked up -- would you say they're pretty much the ones who are messing with things I'd likely never touch? Do I ever need to worry about a radio? Does the stock rooted ROM that's loaded at the end of it allow for better battery life and overclocking? Those are really my two biggest concerns if I'm going to root (and yeah, I get that they're counterproductive!).
I know I'm asking all the noob questions over again, most of which have already been answered many times here. People tend to get impatient with people like me getting into this kind of stuff, which is one reason I chose to stay away from it. This editorial (http://www.androidcentral.com/sometimes-root-isn’t-answer) also made me think twice (or three times)...
If I get into this, what I'd like to be able to do is to copy all my SD card files onto my computer, keeping the whole thing intact, copy it all back once this thing is done and I no longer need the gold card, fire up My Backup Pro, and have everything end up right back where it was. I really feel as if this is asking too much...
I know the feeling of everything looking really complex and hard. I came from a black berry, the key to rooting with either method is reading the directions. The directions are extremely watered down. What exactly scares you about rooting, what terminology? We are here to help you. The inspire is an amazing little device.
Thank you all for being willing to be so helpful. I'd say I was mostly turned off to rooting by going through the Hack Kit and One Click threads and reading about all the people who actually know what they're talking about having issues and breaking things. I figured if they were breaking things, I'd be SURE to mess something up big time.
I'll be keeping you guys at my fingertips for PMs if this goes badly, and I really do appreciate you being willing to help.
For those of you who do this ROM swapping thing often, is there any way to have some program make a snapshot of your homescreens so you don't have to re-configure them every time? Seems like it'd be a pain.
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Thank you all for being willing to be so helpful. I'd say I was mostly turned off to rooting by going through the Hack Kit and One Click threads and reading about all the people who actually know what they're talking about having issues and breaking things. I figured if they were breaking things, I'd be SURE to mess something up big time.
I'll be keeping you guys at my fingertips for PMs if this goes badly, and I really do appreciate you being willing to help.
For those of you who do this ROM swapping thing often, is there any way to have some program make a snapshot of your homescreens so you don't have to re-configure them every time? Seems like it'd be a pain.
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Breaking things not so much . No one has completely bricked their inspire. There are a few things here and there that pop up and usually already have a fix posted for them.
Check out the guide to flashing at the top of this forum, I tried to get as detailed as I could.
Honestly no, Flashing a new rom (not an patch/upgrade) will be like booting your phone up for the first time. Though you can back up your sms,apps, and contacts. Everything else you will have to set up again. It can be a pain, but the pros far out weigh the cons !
Any reason you can see for me to use the hack kit over the one click?
Sent from a solid block of aluminum.
They are both good, the hack kit lets you be a little more involved with the rooting process. Where the GUI is more automated. The GUI has the potential to flash the h-boot wrong after it is rooted and s-off, leading to a black cwm screen. You can find a fix for that in the guide that is stickied.
Ooooookay, taking a deep breath and diving in. I'll let you know when I come up for air...
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Any reason you can see for me to use the hack kit over the one click?
Sent from a solid block of aluminum.
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I say the only reason you should use the hack kit is to understand adb commands a little bit better. I've used both methods and felt a tiny bit more accomplished with the hack kit. Don't worry about messing up, there are plenty of people willing to lend a hand.
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Currently downloading the One Click with about 7 minutes to go. Is there an easy way to tell what ROMs allow for overclocking and to what point? I don't exactly see the need at the moment (I've never noticed my Inspire running slowly), but it'd be nice for future-proofing. I've been able to gather that OC requires more to do with the kernel than the ROM, and that not every ROM includes a kernel (I'm not even sure what I'd do with a kernel if I got one...). I'm figuring it's safe to assume that the stock rooted ROM that is loaded by the One Click doesn't have any OC abilities.
EDIT: I believe from most of my reading that I'm most interested in the LeeDroid ROM and accoutrements. Someone earlier mentioned that they are using this right now -- from going through his thread, it looks like that involves kernels and radios in addition to ROMS. I'm not asking for anyone to do anything special for me, but is there a step-by-step on how to go from post-One Click to happy LeeDroid?
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Currently downloading the One Click with about 7 minutes to go. Is there an easy way to tell what ROMs allow for overclocking and to what point? I don't exactly see the need at the moment (I've never noticed my Inspire running slowly), but it'd be nice for future-proofing. I've been able to gather that OC requires more to do with the kernel than the ROM, and that not every ROM includes a kernel (I'm not even sure what I'd do with a kernel if I got one...). I'm figuring it's safe to assume that the stock rooted ROM that is loaded by the One Click doesn't have any OC abilities.
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Unless they changed it no (GUI).
Most devs will put OC or [OC] in the threads title, most of the time the kernel will flash along side of the rom. Though if it isn't and it is an optional kernel, the best method is to flash the the rom, then reboot, then flash the kernel. Most are overclocked to 1.8ghz some are 1.5ghz.
edit: You flash a kernel like you would a rom, except when flashing a kernel you don't do a full wipe, but it is best to wipe cache and dalvik cache.
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Don't sweat it, man. Just hop into the "One Click Root" thread in the Development forum. It'll outline what you need to have before starting the process. It will guide you step by step through what you need to do. It's a headache when you first do it, but after that you'll be flashing like a champ. It's addictive. Feel free to PM me if you want to go through it together. I'll be more than happy to help. Just make sure you do everything with a fully charged battery.
One Click Root thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961406
Also, there's a video in the top part of the first post. It's for an earlier version of the root app, but it's still very viable and lets you watch someone do it before you go through it.
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I have to chime in here and say that I have rooted and flashed my old Nexus one many times and I was totally lost with the Inspire root methods. I literally got a migraine just reading through the one-click thread the first time.
What are you having trouble understanding about it?
Hi ! Well technically im not new to the forum b/c i have a nexus one and use that ... part of the forum a lot but im tryin to help a friend right now.. He has a thunderbolt, and got it pretty close to initial release. He's had many problems with it like periodic need of restarts, and losing like a decent portion of is battery AFTER restart (example before start, 50%, after restart, 40-45%...), text msging problems like (example... "Hi" to John Doe, *send*... it does not appear in the window, go back to the messaging home screen... u see "Hi" sent to Harry Potter instead.. doesnt happen a lot but business wise, once or twice can cause the lost of business... =/ luckily clients have forgave him so far...
and of cos theres like other problems thats hes been experiencing but those are two that came to mind just now..
so wondering, what procedures to help him root/flash a new rom so he can get a better and faster use of his phone (OH another thing, its working quite slow... D i was lookin around the thunderbolt forum, theres roms like synergyrom and of cos cm7 that are really popular.. then reading in some areas, using the revolutionary method is a good way to start to..root? is the revolutionary method the way to get the bootloader or what.. lol yah im noob >_> surprising i got cm7 on my n1 lol
Many people would ***** at ya for not reading the stickies... naughty naughty. In any case yes you want revolutionary. And yes it provides s-off and an unlocked bootloader. Alternatively for the random SMS problem you can just download an alternate messaging app. I use chomp. If I helped ya hit the thanks!
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i actually did read it.. just didnt really understand it cuz it was different then how it was done for my nexus one...
If there are parts that you do not completely understand go ahead and ask specific questions. Nobody will be upset if you are trying to make sure you know what your doing. Which parts did you not understand?
so what i understand so far... you need to obtain S-Off and unlocked boot loader..
theres a few ways in obtaining that? mr1/ota permroot or revolutionary.. there are people saying revolutionary (or the quick n easy way) has a higher chance in bricking phone.. is that true? b/c i wanna use the way that has the lowest or one of the lower chance to brick the phone.. Yah i want it done fast but i want it done the safest way too.. was reading the instructions and it says it uses the clockwork recovery.. iirc.. there was between clockwork and amun-ra ??
for the most part it looks kind of similar to the process i did with my nexus one..
after it being rooted and having the bootloader... do i just look for those custom firmware packages like uhm cm7 or synergy (or what do you people recommend that you like??) and flash it from sd card in bootloader??
Of all the reading I did about revolutionary I didnt notice anyone bricking their phone. I'm not saying it didn't happen, but it seemed to run smooth for most everyone that followed the directions.
You will install CCW while your running the revolutionary.
And to answer your last question, yes you will just download whatever rom you choose to the root of your sdcard, flash it from recovery.
*sigh* friend hesistant to get it done because he has insurance on the phone... guess ill wait until he's willing ahaha thx for the help !
All the more reason to root. Worst case he bricks it. If he doesn't brick it he will learn how much more fun and enjoyable the Tbolt is with the ability to flash new roms, or change whatever he wants.
Insurance covers phones "accidentally" dropped into the toilet...
yah hes worried if it gets bricked.. hes all for the fixing ...
The only way you are going to brick your phone is if you don't follow the directions. Just make sure you do a nandroid backup through the bootloader and go from there. If your friend is to afraid to do it I'm sure you can check Craigslist for people to root it for you. I'd do it for you but I don't know if the forum allows it.
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Tell him to grow some and root. Hes gonna have to eventually do it anyways to avoid issues like hes been having. Of he does an insurance claim they're just gonna send him a refurbished one and who's to say all the issues were solved with that one after it was sent back? I don't get how people can complain, ask for help and then be reluctant. Whatever you do make sure you sit him down and walk him through it otherwise if he has any issues he'll be calling and blaming you. Been there and laughed and laughed. Good luck.
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I'm ashamed to admit it, but I'm in the same boat almost. I still haven't rooted and rom'd yet for similar reasons. That said, I'm pretty close, especially with the logging fiasco. From what I've read, there haven't been any legit reports of bricking due to Revolutionary, at least used correctly. Most people say it's only when you try an old method of rooting or otherwise don't follow directions.
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I'm ashamed to admit it, but I'm in the same boat almost. I still haven't rooted and rom'd yet for similar reasons. That said, I'm pretty close, especially with the logging fiasco. From what I've read, there haven't been any legit reports of bricking due to Revolutionary, at least used correctly. Most people say it's only when you try an old method of rooting or otherwise don't follow directions.
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Trust me... It's a LOT less scary after you do it than before. I've helped walk some people through the old ADB method with success and Revolutionary is idiot proof by comparison.
Looking through the forums can be a little scary...mostly because of all the "phone stuck" and "PLEASE HELP" threads. My old phone was pretty much hard to brick, if something went wrong... just flashed back to stock (using ODIN). But the risk seems greater with the Hox. I can understand why people root and flash, obviously. But theres always that little voice saying, "If you f**k up, then you dont have a phone". How did you convince yourselves to take the risk?
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Looking through the forums can be a little scary...mostly because of all the "phone stuck" and "PLEASE HELP" threads. My old phone was pretty much hard to brick, if something went wrong... just flashed back to stock (using ODIN). But the risk seems greater with the Hox. I can understand why people root and flash, obviously. But theres always that little voice saying, "If you f**k up, then you dont have a phone". How did you convince yourselves to take the risk?
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right now, there honestly is really little chance for you to f**k up the hox unless you do something really stupid like flash an international hox rom or... idk what. stick to the tried and true methods: use twrp, wipe before flashing, and stick to att hox roms. Worst case scenario, if you get into a situation where you cannot boot and recovery says sd card not mounted (like I did a few weeks ago), easy peasy. Boot into bootloader and fastboot, then oem fastboot relock and flash ruu. RUU right now is almost like a get-out-of-jail card for any soft brick you might have (unless you hard brick it or mess with hboot). tbh, I know that I bought this phone to be able to flash roms and mod. If I am scared of that little risk, then I should go back to my iPhone LOL
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Looking through the forums can be a little scary...mostly because of all the "phone stuck" and "PLEASE HELP" threads. My old phone was pretty much hard to brick, if something went wrong... just flashed back to stock (using ODIN). But the risk seems greater with the Hox. I can understand why people root and flash, obviously. But theres always that little voice saying, "If you f**k up, then you dont have a phone". How did you convince yourselves to take the risk?
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Read and reread if you don't know what your doing. It's pretty hard to brick this phone. Just read the install instructions. The benefits out way the risks.
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When I joined I never flashed a rom before let alone root and unlock and soff.
I found this forum and read the helpful guides, read them again asked my questions before I proceeded and have never had a problem.
You'll find 99% of the time when someone posts a problem its because they didn't follow instructions.
roguly said:
Looking through the forums can be a little scary...mostly because of all the "phone stuck" and "PLEASE HELP" threads. My old phone was pretty much hard to brick, if something went wrong... just flashed back to stock (using ODIN). But the risk seems greater with the Hox. I can understand why people root and flash, obviously. But theres always that little voice saying, "If you f**k up, then you dont have a phone". How did you convince yourselves to take the risk?
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Ya know, this forum is a funny place. For each one of those help threads you see there is someone trying to intentionally brick their phone so they can send it back for replacement.
Personally I think they're scumbags for doing so and should have to live without a phone, but there's nothing you can really do about that.
I guess I convinced myself to start flashing stuff on my brand new $600 gadget because I had something else in line if something went wrong. I had my eye on this super neat Sony Experia Active phone, which is only $250 new (its waterproof and scratch proof. You should check it out!). If something goes wrong I can always get that. My financial situation this summer is pretty good (for once) so I can afford the risk.
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Flashing something on the HOX is safe compared to the thought of randomly losing your imei like on the sgs3. Just stay with stuff you find in these forums.
The steps seem complicated but the guides are pretty much step by step, you just have to be patient. There was a couple times where I thought my phone wasn't going to boot back up because it was taking too long, but I just gave it time. Flashing new ROMs every couple days is a habit for me, so there's no way I could own an Android device and not root. Right now the benefits may not be good enough for you to flash because we still lack source code, but to me the ROMs we have now are 100000000x better than the stock ROM. Yeah stock is fast, but these are much faster and have tweaks that really make the phone "you" and not something you can just pick up off the shelf.
roguly said:
Looking through the forums can be a little scary...mostly because of all the "phone stuck" and "PLEASE HELP" threads. My old phone was pretty much hard to brick, if something went wrong... just flashed back to stock (using ODIN). But the risk seems greater with the Hox. I can understand why people root and flash, obviously. But theres always that little voice saying, "If you f**k up, then you dont have a phone". How did you convince yourselves to take the risk?
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All those "phone stuck" and "PLEASE HELP" threads are posted by n00bs who jump in the deep end without learning to swim. Or even READ about swimming. If you follow the instructions for whatever you are trying to do to your HOX, be it root, unlock, flash a ROM, etc., there is very little risk of turning your phone into a paperweight. Even if something goes wrong, a RUU will fix your problem 99 times out of 100. There is always a risk, but the very minimal risk is well worth the boundless gains. You think the HOX is a bad ass device stock? It's 1000 times better rooted and ROM'd.
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All those "phone stuck" and "PLEASE HELP" threads are posted by n00bs who jump in the deep end without learning to swim. Or even READ about swimming. If you follow the instructions for whatever you are trying to do to your HOX, be it root, unlock, flash a ROM, etc., there is very little risk of turning your phone into a paperweight. Even if something goes wrong, a RUU will fix your problem 99 times out of 100. There is always a risk, but the very minimal risk is well worth the boundless gains. You think the HOX is a bad ass device stock? It's 1000 times better rooted and ROM'd.
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I agree, it gets much better with a rom and radio installed. Also the main bricks out there arent from everyday rom flashing. They are from s-off attempt testing and yes from not following instructions. Be careful with apps from playstore that install a recovery. Best to do that manually.
roguly said:
Looking through the forums can be a little scary...mostly because of all the "phone stuck" and "PLEASE HELP" threads. My old phone was pretty much hard to brick, if something went wrong... just flashed back to stock (using ODIN). But the risk seems greater with the Hox. I can understand why people root and flash, obviously. But theres always that little voice saying, "If you f**k up, then you dont have a phone". How did you convince yourselves to take the risk?
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Read before you flash and you'll be okay.
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Root & Rom is synonymous with Android. I can't imagine owning an android device and not rooting it. I normally give every device the prerequisite 2 weeks stock before I root. The hox I gave a month because I was loving it so much.
Eventually though I always root. Been doing since the days of the G1 when htc actually came pre installed with aosp lol.
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Everything has a risk to it. Change a light bulb in a lamp, and you run the risk of knocking the lamp over and breaking it. But nobody in their right mind is going to replace the whole lamp whenever it needs a new bulb, just because they are afraid of breaking it. Overly simplistic comparison, for sure. But you see what I'm getting at.
Follow instructions, read the warnings, and read up as much as you can on each step along the way, and you will most likely be fine. If things go wrong, flashing the RUU will fix a soft brick 99% of the tiime.
Read and read more. Watch a you tube tutorial maybe. I did both for days and got my hox, then I read more on here for 3 days before starting. Went slow, took me 2 hours to root, unlock bl, install recovery and finally a rom I liked and still liked.
Print out the directions if you have to. I had my iPad out open to the problems others had lol.
Is really not all that hard overall
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I have the T959v android phone, which I found out is a bit more complicated than my Samsung Vibrant.
I am running the gingerbread kernel after using Kies.
I have finally successfully flashed the T959v using Heimdoll following this guide. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21953878&postcount=2
Super User has been installed using SuperOneClick.
After struggling with it and reading on some sites it's possible and some sites it's not possible, I've come to the conclusion that Rom Manager is not a good idea to use, to install a Rom on my particular phone.
I want to install this Rom here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1402966
However I reviewed the instructions and found I was lost on some parts.
I know how to get to recovery mode (with the phone turned off, hold down volume up and down and the power button)
However, here's where I get lost:
6. Perform Voodoo -> Disable Lagfix.
I do not have this option, likely because I'm missing voodoo or some sort of app. I've tried googling this and figuring out what it is, but I don't even know what a CWM is.
I haven't tried (since I'm atleast smart enough to review information before I start following them, lest I get myself stuck somewhere and unable to back out of). However I believe I can get as far as Step 5.
Unfortuantely I can't get any further.
The only apps I have installed (besides the annoying bloatware on the phone) are the ones I listed above.
This is my first time flashing a phone or doing any of the above, previously my friend did it for me.
So I apologize for whatever Incompetence I may have, however if you can simplify instructions I'm pretty good at following them.
The hard part is that I don't know how to do a lot of the instructions.
Is there a video? Perhaps a guide with pictures that includes all the software I need and how to install that software?
I'm sorry for the questions, I hope someone can help. This has been a long and frustrating process but I'm determined to finish it.
Thank you in advance.
Ah also this: "Must have pre-installed kernel with clockwork recovery!"
I cannot do this because when I try and use clockwork recovery it says it cannot support my phone.
It gives me a list of 4 devices, none of which are my phone.
Then I click on "My device is not listed" and it states the T959v is not supported.
I'm really sorry for all the questions.
Not only does this app look nice, and sound nice due to hardware acceleration. Above all it gets rid of that bloatware crap from T-mobile.
I look forward to giving this app a try.
Hello my friend i know how excited you are when it come's to flashing, installing, removing apps on your phone, but before you do any harm to your phone maybe
consider reading this http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S_4G before going further. it save's you a lot of time and headache plus you can avoid
flaming from other people here. and also try to use the search bar just i case you have further question's..
I advice you to take some time to read first on what do you want to your phone before doing anything.. don't be in a hurry we have tons of great roms in here..
Do not use clockwork manager...it is not for this device!
If you have super user ur rooted and good to go ...i would suggest you play around with the gingerbread roms for a spell before going to icecream sandwich roms,just so you get a feel for flashing on this device.....i too came from the vibrant and dearly miss it.
This phone is far from a vibrant but is coming along.
Feel free to pm me.....I may be a bit slow on replies since I'm working 7/12's 3rd shift.
Thank you both so much for your replies.
Warren I am checking that link out right now. Thanks
Shortbus, I miss my Vibrant too.
Technically speaking my Vibrant is still usable, but ever since I dropped it and cracked the screen it seems to have drastically slowed down (and the screen is annoying with all the cracks too).
Sad day for me.
I still want to try and get that Rom I had posted above working, as I doubt I'll move to another rom anytime after that. But I'll try and learn more about it using the link you gave me Warren. It'll probably take me several days ~_~
Shortbus I may email you with questions I come across from time to time if that's ok
Squeezitgirdle said:
Thank you both so much for your replies.
Warren I am checking that link out right now. Thanks
Shortbus, I miss my Vibrant too.
Technically speaking my Vibrant is still usable, but ever since I dropped it and cracked the screen it seems to have drastically slowed down (and the screen is annoying with all the cracks too).
Sad day for me.
I still want to try and get that Rom I had posted above working, as I doubt I'll move to another rom anytime after that. But I'll try and learn more about it using the link you gave me Warren. It'll probably take me several days ~_~
Shortbus I may email you with questions I come across from time to time if that's ok
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If you want to install Valhalla Final - read the guide in the first link of my signature and begin where applicable.
I don't mind.
Flashing roms on this device is easy once you realize its not the vibrant lol.
Like the vibrant....this thing is near impossible to brick,....just a lil bit more complicated than the vib.....till you get to understand it.
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If you want to install Valhalla Final - read the guide in the first link of my signature and begin where applicable.
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Ah, so I should switch to Froyo instead of Gingerbread from the looks of it.
I'll get right on that I'm going to try following your guide now
edit: I saw that you switched to Gingerbread, jumped too far ahead of myself.
I'm getting pretty far along in the guide, I'm now at the part where I am about to install the rom.
I love that you guys respond so quickly too.
In the process of using Heimdall I ran into so many issues but was (slowly) able to work through them and figure them out.
It's nice to know I can come here if I have a quick question.
I'm not much help with heimdall....I use gremlin remover,its a one click Odin program....serves the same purpose....to bring you to a rooted stock state.