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G Tablet coming tomorrow...would like to get some things set straight. Thanks.

Hey all,
I'm getting my G Tablet tomorrow and I'd just like to get some things clarified.
I know, the first thing some will say is USE SEARCH! Well, I did - and that's actually why I just want to get some things straight before I go down the path of modifying the device software. See, reading it all has managed to confuse me more than help me get a definitive instruction set for forging ahead.
I'm seeing the update "****s on CWM" according to a user...and then a 'fix' for that. Than I see that Gapps causes FCs for some, while it works for others. So...yeah, a little back and forth on what to do and who's instructions to follow.
Alright, so first thing's first....Should I flash the Clockwork Mod that I'm seeing available - 0.8? or is there something else I should consider or that I've missed? or maybe wait for a newer version? Should I even flash CWM if I get the newest (and I WILL be getting the newest) S/W version? Are there any downsides at all to flashing CWM on there in terms of messing with OTA updates, etc?
I read this:
"All the ROMS use a standard firmware updater that can be used by non-technical users. Here is an explanation on how it works:...."
Sooo, does that mean I can live without CWM? If an update doesn't work for some reason, will I be able to fix it or overwrite it somehow if I can't get into the tablet at all from the tablet itself? I read something about going into APX mode and putting things on through Windows, is this an infallible method?
Second of all, I read the FAQ thoroughly (I think and hope) but I'm still not 100% on what Gapps to DL or how to put a working Android Market on there especially with this new S/W update. I've seen how to 'fix' the Market to see missing apps, but not how to actually install it on the G Tablet. I may have missed that post somewhere on here.
I'm also unclear if I should get Gapps or not at all, as I've read that some have FCs on there while others do not - so what's the general consensus in light of this update that was just released as of Dec. 21, 2010?
Ultimately, here is what I'd like from my GTab:
I'd like to run the new official Tapn'Tap released recently first and foremost.
I'd like to have the official/unofficial (w/e) Google Market.
I'd like to run Google Apps (Gtalk, Gmail, etc.).
IF I don't like Tapn'Tap, and this is a worse case scenario situation, as in if I HATE TnT - I'd like to have the option to slap something else on there and I'd like to make sure I don't brick my Tablet. Whether that means storing an original official TnT ROM or whatever.
Point me in the right direction please, especially considering things may have changed as of the new S/W update.
Thanks much and sorry for all the questions. I assure you I used search and I attempted to put it together on my own. It's been a long time since I've modded (G1 was the last time) and I don't do it often. Also, apologies if I posted this in the wrong section....I considered posting it in Dev. section but this one seemed better suited.
Thanks again, XDA rocks.

Neoprimal said:
Hey all,
I'm getting my G Tablet tomorrow and I'd just like to get some things clarified.
I know, the first thing some will say is USE SEARCH! Well, I did - and that's actually why I just want to get some things straight before I go down the path of modifying the device software. See, reading it all has managed to confuse me more than help me get a definitive instruction set for forging ahead.
I'm seeing the update "****s on CWM" according to a user...and then a 'fix' for that. Than I see that Gapps causes FCs for some, while it works for others. So...yeah, a little back and forth on what to do and who's instructions to follow.
Alright, so first thing's first....Should I flash the Clockwork Mod that I'm seeing available - 0.8? or is there something else I should consider or that I've missed? or maybe wait for a newer version? Should I even flash CWM if I get the newest (and I WILL be getting the newest) S/W version? Are there any downsides at all to flashing CWM on there in terms of messing with OTA updates, etc?
I read this:
"All the ROMS use a standard firmware updater that can be used by non-technical users. Here is an explanation on how it works:...."
Sooo, does that mean I can live without CWM? If an update doesn't work for some reason, will I be able to fix it or overwrite it somehow if I can't get into the tablet at all from the tablet itself? I read something about going into APX mode and putting things on through Windows, is this an infallible method?
Second of all, I read the FAQ thoroughly (I think and hope) but I'm still not 100% on what Gapps to DL or how to put a working Android Market on there especially with this new S/W update. I've seen how to 'fix' the Market to see missing apps, but not how to actually install it on the G Tablet. I may have missed that post somewhere on here.
I'm also unclear if I should get Gapps or not at all, as I've read that some have FCs on there while others do not - so what's the general consensus in light of this update that was just released as of Dec. 21, 2010?
Ultimately, here is what I'd like from my GTab:
I'd like to run the new official Tapn'Tap released recently first and foremost.
I'd like to have the official/unofficial (w/e) Google Market.
I'd like to run Google Apps (Gtalk, Gmail, etc.).
IF I don't like Tapn'Tap, and this is a worse case scenario situation, as in if I HATE TnT - I'd like to have the option to slap something else on there and I'd like to make sure I don't brick my Tablet. Whether that means storing an original official TnT ROM or whatever.
Point me in the right direction please, especially considering things may have changed as of the new S/W update.
Thanks much and sorry for all the questions. I assure you I used search and I attempted to put it together on my own. It's been a long time since I've modded (G1 was the last time) and I don't do it often. Also, apologies if I posted this in the wrong section....I considered posting it in Dev. section but this one seemed better suited.
Thanks again, XDA rocks.
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I don't know how much direction pointing I can do but here goes..
Clockwork mod in my opinion is a necessity. Version 0.8 is the best one for most people because of how it deals with the memory locations. Yes, you can do things without it. The update process is as simple as putting an update.zip file, and a recovery folder with a command file in it on an sdcard and holding the vol + button while hitting power. It is easy. Clockwork has a lot of little features though that make life easier. You can make a complete system backup with it. You can install updates, and new firmware with it. You can completely lock up your tablet and using clockwork and your backup be back in business in about 3-4 minutes. You can load new roms and if you hate them you can go back to your old working stuff in minutes. Yes, there are ways to make one of these tablets work again when they get stuck. I don't think anyone has actually bricked one. Some may think they have, but I doubt it.
Unless you are dead set on wanting the stock TnT interface the easiest way to get what you want is to load one of the roms. Yes, there are ways to get most of it without loading a new rom. Most everyone that has gone the I have to stay stock but want all the mods has eventually just loaded a rom. TnT3.0 is based on the latest stock stuff. It has the market, flash, etc. already in it. VegaN is what I use mostly but they are both stable and fast.
Before you flash something brand new that just came out I would read about it and see what others have to say about issues. It usually only takes about 30 minutes until you can tell if it is going to be good or not.
All of the roms for this tablet have there own little quirks. The stock has gotten better with each update but it still is not as good as the ones I named.
Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable. Anything you can possibly break one of us has probably already broken before and fixed. There are some people that seem to have problems doing every little thing. Most don't. So I wouldn't let any of it scare you off because none of it is that hard.
With a little bit of searching almost everything you may want it to do can be done. I really love mine, and when I got it almost 2 months ago I hated it...

"Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable. Anything you can possibly break one of us has probably already broken before and fixed. There are some people that seem to have problems doing every little thing. Most don't. So I wouldn't let any of it scare you off because none of it is that hard."
"Sigh" of relief. Then I'm not too worried. As I said I've dabbled in modifying my G1 and it is mostly cake. But I've just been seeing conflicting posts on whether cwm works with the newest official tnt release or not so I wasn't sure what to do.
Thanks for your advice. And when I said pointers, I meant like this as well as pointing me to any posts I may have missed on how to do whatever. Though I THINK I found most of them.

Neoprimal said:
"Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable. Anything you can possibly break one of us has probably already broken before and fixed. There are some people that seem to have problems doing every little thing. Most don't. So I wouldn't let any of it scare you off because none of it is that hard."
"Sigh" of relief. Then I'm not too worried. As I said I've dabbled in modifying my G1 and it is mostly cake. But I've just been seeing conflicting posts on whether cwm works with the newest official tnt release or not so I wasn't sure what to do.
Thanks for your advice. And when I said pointers, I meant like this as well as pointing me to any posts I may have missed on how to do whatever. Though I THINK I found most of them.
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The new release overwrites clockwork. But it is not hard to put back. Always a good idea to copy the clockwork backups folder to your pc, or somewhere they won't be lost. The custom roms typically leave the recovery image alone and can be installed with or without clockwork by either extracting the zip contents for stock recovery, or installing it as is in clockwork.

Sprdtyf350 said:
Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable.
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I can vouch for that. Erased system, boot, data and cache in preparation for a new ROM. Accidentally rebooted and couldn't get into recovery. Booted it into APX mode, flashed stock and was on my way.

I would just run ZRoot, then upload the TnTLite 3.0 recovery and update.zip and then do the recovery mode process. You should have a microsd handy just in case it doesn't work, but so far I haven't needed that.
This tablet is much easier to work with and very forgiving since VS never took the time to lock down the bootloader etc like Motorola did with my Droid X. You really shouldn't fear changing files out etc, provided you're getting a ROM from one of the people providing them here. If you can press and hold two buttons at once, you can make your gTab an awesome little tablet. It benchmarks about 1000 points higher than my Droid X on quadrant. Can't wait to see what these guys can do with Gingerbread.

Sprdtyf350 said:
The new release overwrites clockwork. But it is not hard to put back. Always a good idea to copy the clockwork backups folder to your pc, or somewhere they won't be lost. The custom roms typically leave the recovery image alone and can be installed with or without clockwork by either extracting the zip contents for stock recovery, or installing it as is in clockwork.
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It is also not hard to alter the update so that it does not overwrite clockwork.
Open update.zip
Find updater-script, Open in notepad++
Remove the line that references recovery.img
Flash update

hogasswild said:
I would just run ZRoot, then upload the TnTLite 3.0 recovery and update.zip and then do the recovery mode process. You should have a microsd handy just in case it doesn't work, but so far I haven't needed that.
This tablet is much easier to work with and very forgiving since VS never took the time to lock down the bootloader etc like Motorola did with my Droid X. You really shouldn't fear changing files out etc, provided you're getting a ROM from one of the people providing them here. If you can press and hold two buttons at once, you can make your gTab an awesome little tablet. It benchmarks about 1000 points higher than my Droid X on quadrant. Can't wait to see what these guys can do with Gingerbread.
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with the new update however does the z4root still work? i heard it may not anymore. just curious also since im hopefully getting mine on sat for xmas

rothnic said:
It is also not hard to alter the update so that it does not overwrite clockwork.
Open update.zip
Find updater-script, Open in notepad++
Remove the line that references recovery.img
Flash update
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Thanks for the info Rothnic! I had already flashed it before I figured out it removed Clockwork. Learning new stuff every day is good... Thanks..

dragonfly1113 said:
with the new update however does the z4root still work? i heard it may not anymore. just curious also since im hopefully getting mine on sat for xmas
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The very first time I rooted, I used ZRoot and installed 2.4.0. I didn't change anything and used the exact same process of simply copying over the 3.0.0 files over to the root directory of the internal memory and did the recovery procedure (vol+ and pwr keys). It worked like a charm.

hogasswild said:
The very first time I rooted, I used ZRoot and installed 2.4.0. I didn't change anything and used the exact same process of simply copying over the 3.0.0 files over to the root directory of the internal memory and did the recovery procedure (vol+ and pwr keys). It worked like a charm.
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Ok cool, thanks cant wait for my g tablet hopefully sat morning

I think you'll like it a lot. I also own an iPad. While they are similar they are also a little different. Merry Christmas!

hogasswild said:
I think you'll like it a lot. I also own an iPad. While they are similar they are also a little different. Merry Christmas!
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my mom has an ipad and my dad could only buy it while i was on my honeymoon bc he knew i wouldnt approve of an apple device in the house haha.

rothnic said:
It is also not hard to alter the update so that it does not overwrite clockwork.
Open update.zip
Find updater-script, Open in notepad++
Remove the line that references recovery.img
Flash update
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My device hasn't come yet (damn you FedEx!) but I'm eagerly awaiting it.
My plan:
Unbox, start it....do a factory reset from the getgo if it has enough juice.
Set it back up. Charge it to full. If whatever comes on it is as unbearable as I've seen in on Youtube - start modifications.
Will CWM install on it AFTER I do the update if it's available to me? I've seen that the update messes with it if it's already there - but noone's mentioned putting it on there after the fact. I may just go that route for simplicity sake.
Thanks for this!, and thank you all for chiming in with your experience. I feel much better about just getting my hands dirty in it all. I had wrote something to someone yesterday about jumping in and just doing it, but when it comes to dealing with it yourself it can be a daunting task - especially when it still has that new smell, lol. Anyway, thanks again. You guys really rock.
Will stop back later on after I've done my thing

I think they are both nice devices. There are trade off for both of them. I think the screen on the iPad is wonderful, where the gTab's is okay. But the gTab has a forward facing camera, you can print from it, and you can modify it fairly easily too.

Sprdtyf350 said:
Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable.
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...famous last words...
Seriously though...trust the directions from the great devs like roebeet. Follow their instructions word for word. You can switch ROMs and then flash back if you want. No worries...

Off topic!
Well...disappointment! Fedex had my package out for delivery at 8am and at 8pm, they're not here. This is why I like UPS, they show up at my door on the day of delivery, no exceptions - they have shown up at almost 9pm before. The Archos 101 I got was sent out at 8am as well but got here at 1:30pm - I suppose that was before the holiday rush.
Checking the details of my tracking I'm seeing a "delivery exception" at 7:30pm (I guess it was time to get back to the facility so they can clock out by 8pm?) and upon calling them I get a somewhat stumbling but polite CS who tells me the delivery went out "late" - upon which I asked if 8am was considered late, especially from a distribution facility WITHIN the same zip code as I am, and all he could say was "Very sorry about this".
Aaaanyway....I guess it will be tomorrow before I can report my adventures.
Think I'll be able to get my $3.99 back from Amazon? I have Prime and with that the package would have come tomorrow anyway. Basically my $3.99 is wasted. Imagine if I didn't have Prime though? Whew.

ima_UNC_fan said:
...famous last words...
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If you can figure out how to brick it you will probably get an award.. It won't be a good award but probably one of those top ten dumb things people do awards. So far unless you plug the motherboard into a wall socket no one has bricked one. May think they have, but like I said before I doubt it..
And your right.. If it can be done, someone eventually will figure out how. And then we will all laugh at them.. At least I will

I finally got the G tablet tonight and...alright, don't flame me for this - but I don't see what all the complaints about the screen being horrendous or the device being molasses slow are about?
I don't know how people are trying to view it...but when looking at it or setting it on a stand to watch media, I'm not seeing any problem with the viewing angles. It's about the same as my laptop so I watch it the same way.
It's not even a 1/4 as slow as the stuff I've seen on Youtube or in some of the review videos I've seen around the net. I haven't gotten a single FC. Granted, I haven't put in a SD Card yet so maybe problems will start then?
I guess I should note, the very first thing I did was did a factory reset. Then I hooked it up to Wifi and got the 3053 update. I'm one of those who will be waiting for the 'official' update on the 24th.
I set up the time and date, restarted and everything works. I haven't installed flash yet (don't need it that much) and stuff that I DO want on there right now works fine (skype, pandora, fring, dropbox, evernote). I'm slowly figuring out a list of what I want/need from my Mytouch 4G to port to the VS GTab. Figure I don't really NEED Gtalk, Gmail on there because I have these on my phone AND PC - do I really want them making noises all around my home on 3 devices? I was concerned about getting the Google Apps on but now I'm finding I really don't need them. So it seems to me this will be a matter of learning to separate what I need on a tablet vs. my phone - I was of the mentality that I should just get whatever's on my phone on the tablet, this is something others apparently do as they seem to want everything that's on their phone, on their tablets as well.
I personally don't see the point in that. Had I had the Google Market, that would have escaped me as I'd have used Appbrain to just get my motherload of apps from the MT4G to the GTab. Not having it has slowed me, and now I get to re-evaluate before I do grab apps for it.
Now I just have to merge/convert my HTPC into a NAS device as well and find an app that will allow me to DLNA stream media from it and I'll be in mobile heaven.
I haven't had my wifi drop at all anywhere in my home and I've marched all over with it (I use full Wifi N, no G compat. so maybe my range is wider?). Tried email, etc. to replicate crashes and force closes but haven't so far. No surfing issues. I DID find that one app got 'stuck' being downloaded and I had to delete the file before the 'downloading' icon would go away, even after restart.
Maybe the trick to getting a workable GTab in the first place is to factory reset it before first use? Iunno. Things may change and issues may pop up the more I use it and as time passes - but so far, so good!
Again, I can't thank XDA enough for the advice and info. I've found and been given.

Sprdtyf350 said:
If you can figure out how to brick it you will probably get an award.. It won't be a good award but probably one of those top ten dumb things people do awards. So far unless you plug the motherboard into a wall socket no one has bricked one. May think they have, but like I said before I doubt it..
And your right.. If it can be done, someone eventually will figure out how. And then we will all laugh at them.. At least I will
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I figured it out. Accidentally hit one of the devkit nvflash .cabs and boom

[TESTIMONIAL] I Rooted, and It's Okay

I know there are many others out there like me. I was concerned about rooting, I'd read the editorial over at Android Central and decided that rooting this phone just wasn't for me. I just knew that I'd screw something up, I didn't know what everything meant, and I just didn't have enough trust in myself or the people here.
I started a thread, talking about getting rid of my Inspire for a Nexus One (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13036228#post13036228). I was encouraged by the exceptionally helpful and friendly people here to at least try rooting -- they'd be here to help me if/when I needed it. I eventually acquiesced and gave it a go with Bubby's One Click Root (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961406). I must say, that man is a genius, and if he is any indication of the brain power here on XDA, I'm very glad to be part of the community.
I had a few rough spots, but I managed to get through with logic and Bubby's FAQ (linked in his thread, USE IT!). While I was able to do this, I can see how other's might not have been able to follow. Specifically, I think that after the first reboot of the phone, the system ought to tell you to go back in and turn off fastboot and turn on USB Debugging, and tell you that you'll have to go through the initial setup again - I was afraid to do this, thinking it might mess something up. Also, when in the terminal on the phone doing the Rage thing, it ought to tell you to use the Back button to get out of the application until you reach the home screen, then relaunch the app. These are things most of you know, but for those of us who are brand new to this stuff, it's not necessarily logic (though I was able to do it).
I figured while I was at it, I might as well flash a ROM. I used the stickied Guide (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033353) to flash LeeDrOiD's ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991848) with no trouble. I then used Clockwork to flash the zip file for the patch he included. Also, no trouble (yet).
I had some bumps here and there, and I asked about them and was very promptly helped. The people here care, are helpful, and are brilliant. They don't mind helping you! If you are wanting to root, but are uncertain about your own abilities (I know I was), please take advantage of the opportunities here and do it!
Special thanks go out to dooyoo222, Divinedark, mudknot2005, and di11igaf for encouraging me and helping me through the process. You can do it!

Awesome! Good on them and WTG on successfully rooting your Inspire.

Likewise. I brought home my Inspire 4G today, rooted it, and I just finished installing thedonvaughn's wonderful Ingersoll 2.4. The XDA community is truly amazing.

Gonna root my friends phone tomorrow, debating if I want to use the hack kit like I did on mine or use the 1 click.

Sweet!
Xda does, in fact......rule!
You're one step ahead of me... I'm still a ROM-flashing virgin.
Not for long, though...
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I am glad the guide was helpful.

It took me a couple days because I wanted to be sure of the process. But I'm glad I rooted mine. I just installed cyanogen mod 7 and an digging it so far.

Rooted on Feb 24th using cyanogen since then. Yes...

It's good that you took the plunge and joined our modding community. Now enjoy the new freedom rooting has given you lol.
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Your right about Bubby being a genius, ooh guess what? The guy isn't even old enough to drive a car. Hes a high school kid that had one hell of a future ahead of him.

Nice writeup - I recently went through the same process as you did!
I also used bubby's tool and it worked quite well. I did however, run into the black screen issue when trying to boot into recovery - bubby's tool fixed that perfectly as well!!
One thing I have to mention, which is a BIG issue for me is battery life. I came from an iPhone 4 and I thought the battery life was incredible. The Inspire out of the box was horrible with battery life for me. Before I jumped to conclusions I knew I had to wait and root. With the incredible amount of support and information on XDA I was able to really learn quite a bit before rooting. Everything went smooth and I'm now running CM7. Not only am I thrilled with the performance but I'm utterly astounded by the increase in battery life. I wouldn't go as far as saying it's double the life as it was before... but it's damn close . I'm beyond happy now - this is the way the phone should be out of the box.
Cheers to everyone involved and this great community! Didn't mean to hijack your thread OP but I'm just as happy and appreciative as you are with how everything turned out.

tdesbien31 said:
Your right about Bubby being a genius, ooh guess what? The guy isn't even old enough to drive a car. Hes a high school kid that had one hell of a future ahead of him.
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Really? Wow, that's awesome to hear. Good for him!

I rooted my friends phone today using the hack kit. It's so damn easy, took me 10 minutes.
This is the 3rd one I've done.

@Silas0220: I'm rooting now.

Good luck! If you're using the One Click, feel free to post in this thread if you have any issues -- I had to figure a lot of things out as I went, so I might get where you're coming from.

Silas0220 said:
Good luck! If you're using the One Click, feel free to post in this thread if you have any issues -- I had to figure a lot of things out as I went, so I might get where you're coming from.
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Everything went smooth. I used the One-Click. I did get the black screen booting to recovery but Bubby's fix took care of that.
Now rooted and running CM 7 Gingerbread.
I don't know what I was so worked up about. It was actually quite straight forward.

eng s-off is not the proper way to fix the blackscreen, it is outdated. please refer to the sticky at the top of the general section.

I rooted my Inspire three weeks ago using the hack kit method. Had a little issue with my sd card not being a good candidate for a gold card. But once that was corrected I went right through without a hitch. tried a few different Roms, been most fond of ClearDroids 1.0.4 and 1.0.5 IMO
Sent from my Inspire 4G using XDA App

First post alert!
Anywho, I working on making the gold card using Bubby's setup. I'm getting the following error.
The process cannot access the file AppData\Local\Temp\killadb.cmd because it is being used by another process.
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HTC Sync has been removed and I've restarted my PC. Any ideas?
EDIT: N/M - It was ADW.
I now have a rooted Inspire HD. Good stuff!!

nice goin

[Q] Q time!

Alright try not to flame the piss outta me; i've been a member here for years and i know how to SEARCH. (and i did)
there's alot of reading between the lines that goes on here. lots of things are not explicit.
my needs are:
1. to be able to tether via bluetooth/wifi/usb/MIFI/hotspot my phone to a windows laptop
2. to delete the bloatware
3. maaaybe save the apps to the SD but that's not necessary
but i must remain with stock ROM. i had a cingular 8125 (wizard) and an AT&T Fuze (diamond) that i hacked and cracked and unlocked and every other thing you could do to them.. and it was always a mess; emailin the dev late at night cause this don't work or that don't work, data don't work, GPS don't work, radios don't work, the phone don't work, it needs to be rebooted everyday cause the other thing's from a different phone. hell i even blew the speaker on the fuze with some speaker mod i downloaded cause it was too quiet and so it didn't ring half the time. i don't need sweet fuzeberry pictures for the menu button and all of this.
so unless there's some perfect rom out there that doesn't have not one damn error, i'd like to stay with a stock rom.
so can bullets 1 and 2 and maybe 3 be solved without going with a non-stock rom? do i have to root to get #'s 1 and 2?
thanks for not flamin me

There is a stock rooted Rom on here which you can use that will let you do what you want.
As for the roms, I know everyone has their preference but gtg's inspired saga gingerbread Rom is pretty much flawless. Even have it on my wife's inspire and she never complains about anything not working. I am sure others are very good as well.

wdkingery said:
Alright try not to flame the piss outta me; i've been a member here for years and i know how to SEARCH. (and i did)
there's alot of reading between the lines that goes on here. lots of things are not explicit.
my needs are:
1. to be able to tether via bluetooth/wifi/usb/MIFI/hotspot my phone to a windows laptop
2. to delete the bloatware
3. maaaybe save the apps to the SD but that's not necessary
but i must remain with stock ROM. i had a cingular 8125 (wizard) and an AT&T Fuze (diamond) that i hacked and cracked and unlocked and every other thing you could do to them.. and it was always a mess; emailin the dev late at night cause this don't work or that don't work, data don't work, GPS don't work, radios don't work, the phone don't work, it needs to be rebooted everyday cause the other thing's from a different phone. hell i even blew the speaker on the fuze with some speaker mod i downloaded cause it was too quiet and so it didn't ring half the time. i don't need sweet fuzeberry pictures for the menu button and all of this.
so unless there's some perfect rom out there that doesn't have not one damn error, i'd like to stay with a stock rom.
so can bullets 1 and 2 and maybe 3 be solved without going with a non-stock rom? do i have to root to get #'s 1 and 2?
thanks for not flamin me
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All of that will require root access. At the very least, your gonna need to do that.
Once you do, if you want a kick-ass fast, stable and dependable tweaked custom stock ROM...try the one in my signature.

Nickovtyme said:
All of that will require root access. At the very least, your gonna need to do that.
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With the exception of maybe App2sd.
But indeed, rooting is pretty much a must-do activity.
Inspire 4G ¦ XDA Premium

Nickovtyme said:
All of that will require root access. At the very least, your gonna need to do that.
Once you do, if you want a kick-ass fast, stable and dependable tweaked custom stock ROM...try the one in my signature.
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sadly i cannot even find the one in your sig

wdkingery said:
sadly i cannot even find the one in your sig
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Let me remedy that for ya.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1015206
I think there's only a handful of us around here that use this ROM as their day to day ROM...and mostly its because it's so close to stock. Not many bells or whistles with this one.

oh puke it appears i'm gonna end up crackin this phone into pieces as well.. bleh. there's sooo much i don't know right now. apn? what was it before i did this? what should it be? a million trillion new things with a new operating system, new phone.. not one thing is the same it seems. on the the [GUIDE] i go..
can this all be undone on this phone if i crush it and need to return it to AT&steal for insurance?

Take a breath. You will catch on and yes it can be reversed if you need to send in for insurance though if the phone is split in half you may have trouble running the stock ruu and getting s-on.
Check the thread in dev section on data speed to see apn settings I believe they are listed in there.

i have yet to even plug this phone into my laptop for the first time.
any activesync type programs i need?

wdkingery said:
oh puke it appears i'm gonna end up crackin this phone into pieces as well.. bleh. there's sooo much i don't know right now. apn? what was it before i did this? what should it be? a million trillion new things with a new operating system, new phone.. not one thing is the same it seems. on the the [GUIDE] i go..
can this all be undone on this phone if i crush it and need to return it to AT&steal for insurance?
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I meant to tell ya that with the Ingersoll ROM, well with most of the ROM's in the dev section, wifi hotspot is enabled by default. I have used it and can verify that it works perfectly..just enable wifi hotspot in the settings. Oh and AT&T won't ever know either...though there is some debate about that.
Or like Newter555 says, do the research and you can add the APN's yourself.

wdkingery said:
i have yet to even plug this phone into my laptop for the first time.
any activesync type programs i need?
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Follow the sticky guide at the top of this forum and you should breeze right through it.

i believe i rooted, but rom manager cannot find superuser, i downloaded superuser from market and it is not doing anything special; no errors ...
i'm now stuck with a rom that has no sound. please help

wdkingery said:
i believe i rooted, but rom manager cannot find superuser, i downloaded superuser from market and it is not doing anything special; no errors ...
i'm now stuck with a rom that has no sound. please help
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If you used the attn1 method he mentions that you have to flash a ROM to get sound back. Do you have rom manager installed? It can install recovery for you and download roms for you.
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He has recovery installed. All he has to do is select a rom, put it on the hd and start recovery to flash it. The process is well.documented. ROM manager is not the answer.

lil fyi i got it all worked out thanks to attn1

wdkingery said:
lil fyi i got it all worked out thanks to attn1
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Awsome! Good for you.
Welcome aboard...you're life is changed forever.

Scary Scary ODIN

Does ODIN somewhat scare you also? Positive and Negative experiences, i have heard more of the latter. What if we gather some devs. and develop a new flashing tool. Yes ODIN is works, and the features are great, but for "newbies", it can be quite scary for them, and they, as well as us, have a great chance of bricking our devices. Let me know what you think. Cheers!

No problems whatsoever with it. There is something else out there...Heimdall. It actually is scary.
Honestly, the only thing you could do to make it any better is take away some of the "don't touch" options. Remove Phone, remove EFS clear. You aren't going to make it any safer than it is when used properly, because you're still goign to be using the same protocols.

shrike1978 said:
No problems whatsoever with it. There is something else out there...Heimdall. It actually is scary.
Honestly, the only thing you could do to make it any better is take away some of the "don't touch" options. Remove Phone, remove EFS clear. You aren't going to make it any safer than it is when used properly, because you're still goign to be using the same protocols.
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Thats a great idea! And maybe make it a bit more user friendly, "easier" to flash your ROMS, at least until they get CWM on their devices, then it's a piece of cake, but we all know that's a lie

I just follow the directions in the stickys and all is good. I use it and if I forget just look it back up.

blueis300 said:
I just follow the directions in the stickys and all is good. I use it and if I forget just look it back up.
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I just don't want that 13 year old kid bricking his brand new 4G device he got for his birthday

rosenbaa29 said:
I just don't want that 13 year old kid bricking his brand new 4G device he got for his birthday
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Because then they come and yell at us.

rosenbaa29 said:
Because then they come and yell at us.
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Never an issue flashing through Odin. The check boxes should be right as soon as you open the program. All you should have to do is click PDA then select the file and hit "start." If you ever need walked through the process, you can send me a message on GTalk @[email protected]

rosenbaa29 said:
Does ODIN somewhat scare you also? Positive and Negative experiences, i have heard more of the latter. What if we gather some devs. and develop a new flashing tool. Yes ODIN is works, and the features are great, but for "newbies", it can be quite scary for them, and they, as well as us, have a great chance of bricking our devices. Let me know what you think. Cheers!
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Nope not scared at all follow directions and everything is golden, screw it up and it can be fixed. See imnuts post how to fix your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1111486
Almost impossible to brick a sammy phone so quite being a little girl and flash with odin

Scared???? all you have to do is follow directions....and click.....why be scared....very hard to brick this baby!!!
I think it is the most straight forward rooting phone out!

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rosenbaa29 said:
Does ODIN somewhat scare you also? Positive and Negative experiences, i have heard more of the latter. ...they, as well as us, have a great chance of bricking our devices.
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The reason you have heard more of the latter is because those people need help and come here to look and ask for it (which is expected). Those that have success using ODIN don't post that they successfully used it (except for cases like this thread).
I've used ODIN for over a year now on both my Fascinate and now my Charge, and I can only remember one issue where the flashing with ODIN didn't complete properly. That was because of a bad download. I tried it again, and when it didn't flash for the 2nd time, I came back here and downloaded the file a 2nd time, and that worked perfectly. It is almost impossible to hard brick your phone (won't work again) with ODIN. You might get your phone to not boot up, but you should be able to use ODIN again to get it flashed correctly and working.

The simple answer is if you read directions, then double and triple check everything before you click start, you'll be fine. If your still scared you shouldn't be rooting your phone! Or fork out the dough and send your phone in for un-brickable mod and never worry again!
~Sent using my Humble Charge~

Have flashed with ODIN dozens of times. After all that, I had only a couple of occasions where the phone would boot-loop. That was easily overcome by following the "How to fix your phone" instructions.

Trying to install Rom

I have the T959v android phone, which I found out is a bit more complicated than my Samsung Vibrant.
I am running the gingerbread kernel after using Kies.
I have finally successfully flashed the T959v using Heimdoll following this guide. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21953878&postcount=2
Super User has been installed using SuperOneClick.
After struggling with it and reading on some sites it's possible and some sites it's not possible, I've come to the conclusion that Rom Manager is not a good idea to use, to install a Rom on my particular phone.
I want to install this Rom here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1402966
However I reviewed the instructions and found I was lost on some parts.
I know how to get to recovery mode (with the phone turned off, hold down volume up and down and the power button)
However, here's where I get lost:
6. Perform Voodoo -> Disable Lagfix.
I do not have this option, likely because I'm missing voodoo or some sort of app. I've tried googling this and figuring out what it is, but I don't even know what a CWM is.
I haven't tried (since I'm atleast smart enough to review information before I start following them, lest I get myself stuck somewhere and unable to back out of). However I believe I can get as far as Step 5.
Unfortuantely I can't get any further.
The only apps I have installed (besides the annoying bloatware on the phone) are the ones I listed above.
This is my first time flashing a phone or doing any of the above, previously my friend did it for me.
So I apologize for whatever Incompetence I may have, however if you can simplify instructions I'm pretty good at following them.
The hard part is that I don't know how to do a lot of the instructions.
Is there a video? Perhaps a guide with pictures that includes all the software I need and how to install that software?
I'm sorry for the questions, I hope someone can help. This has been a long and frustrating process but I'm determined to finish it.
Thank you in advance.
Ah also this: "Must have pre-installed kernel with clockwork recovery!"
I cannot do this because when I try and use clockwork recovery it says it cannot support my phone.
It gives me a list of 4 devices, none of which are my phone.
Then I click on "My device is not listed" and it states the T959v is not supported.
I'm really sorry for all the questions.
Not only does this app look nice, and sound nice due to hardware acceleration. Above all it gets rid of that bloatware crap from T-mobile.
I look forward to giving this app a try.

Hello my friend i know how excited you are when it come's to flashing, installing, removing apps on your phone, but before you do any harm to your phone maybe
consider reading this http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S_4G before going further. it save's you a lot of time and headache plus you can avoid
flaming from other people here. and also try to use the search bar just i case you have further question's..
I advice you to take some time to read first on what do you want to your phone before doing anything.. don't be in a hurry we have tons of great roms in here..

Do not use clockwork manager...it is not for this device!
If you have super user ur rooted and good to go ...i would suggest you play around with the gingerbread roms for a spell before going to icecream sandwich roms,just so you get a feel for flashing on this device.....i too came from the vibrant and dearly miss it.
This phone is far from a vibrant but is coming along.
Feel free to pm me.....I may be a bit slow on replies since I'm working 7/12's 3rd shift.

Thank you both so much for your replies.
Warren I am checking that link out right now. Thanks
Shortbus, I miss my Vibrant too.
Technically speaking my Vibrant is still usable, but ever since I dropped it and cracked the screen it seems to have drastically slowed down (and the screen is annoying with all the cracks too).
Sad day for me.
I still want to try and get that Rom I had posted above working, as I doubt I'll move to another rom anytime after that. But I'll try and learn more about it using the link you gave me Warren. It'll probably take me several days ~_~
Shortbus I may email you with questions I come across from time to time if that's ok

Squeezitgirdle said:
Thank you both so much for your replies.
Warren I am checking that link out right now. Thanks
Shortbus, I miss my Vibrant too.
Technically speaking my Vibrant is still usable, but ever since I dropped it and cracked the screen it seems to have drastically slowed down (and the screen is annoying with all the cracks too).
Sad day for me.
I still want to try and get that Rom I had posted above working, as I doubt I'll move to another rom anytime after that. But I'll try and learn more about it using the link you gave me Warren. It'll probably take me several days ~_~
Shortbus I may email you with questions I come across from time to time if that's ok
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If you want to install Valhalla Final - read the guide in the first link of my signature and begin where applicable.

I don't mind.
Flashing roms on this device is easy once you realize its not the vibrant lol.
Like the vibrant....this thing is near impossible to brick,....just a lil bit more complicated than the vib.....till you get to understand it.

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If you want to install Valhalla Final - read the guide in the first link of my signature and begin where applicable.
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Ah, so I should switch to Froyo instead of Gingerbread from the looks of it.
I'll get right on that I'm going to try following your guide now
edit: I saw that you switched to Gingerbread, jumped too far ahead of myself.
I'm getting pretty far along in the guide, I'm now at the part where I am about to install the rom.
I love that you guys respond so quickly too.
In the process of using Heimdall I ran into so many issues but was (slowly) able to work through them and figure them out.
It's nice to know I can come here if I have a quick question.

I'm not much help with heimdall....I use gremlin remover,its a one click Odin program....serves the same purpose....to bring you to a rooted stock state.