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Hey all,
I'm getting my G Tablet tomorrow and I'd just like to get some things clarified.
I know, the first thing some will say is USE SEARCH! Well, I did - and that's actually why I just want to get some things straight before I go down the path of modifying the device software. See, reading it all has managed to confuse me more than help me get a definitive instruction set for forging ahead.
I'm seeing the update "****s on CWM" according to a user...and then a 'fix' for that. Than I see that Gapps causes FCs for some, while it works for others. So...yeah, a little back and forth on what to do and who's instructions to follow.
Alright, so first thing's first....Should I flash the Clockwork Mod that I'm seeing available - 0.8? or is there something else I should consider or that I've missed? or maybe wait for a newer version? Should I even flash CWM if I get the newest (and I WILL be getting the newest) S/W version? Are there any downsides at all to flashing CWM on there in terms of messing with OTA updates, etc?
I read this:
"All the ROMS use a standard firmware updater that can be used by non-technical users. Here is an explanation on how it works:...."
Sooo, does that mean I can live without CWM? If an update doesn't work for some reason, will I be able to fix it or overwrite it somehow if I can't get into the tablet at all from the tablet itself? I read something about going into APX mode and putting things on through Windows, is this an infallible method?
Second of all, I read the FAQ thoroughly (I think and hope) but I'm still not 100% on what Gapps to DL or how to put a working Android Market on there especially with this new S/W update. I've seen how to 'fix' the Market to see missing apps, but not how to actually install it on the G Tablet. I may have missed that post somewhere on here.
I'm also unclear if I should get Gapps or not at all, as I've read that some have FCs on there while others do not - so what's the general consensus in light of this update that was just released as of Dec. 21, 2010?
Ultimately, here is what I'd like from my GTab:
I'd like to run the new official Tapn'Tap released recently first and foremost.
I'd like to have the official/unofficial (w/e) Google Market.
I'd like to run Google Apps (Gtalk, Gmail, etc.).
IF I don't like Tapn'Tap, and this is a worse case scenario situation, as in if I HATE TnT - I'd like to have the option to slap something else on there and I'd like to make sure I don't brick my Tablet. Whether that means storing an original official TnT ROM or whatever.
Point me in the right direction please, especially considering things may have changed as of the new S/W update.
Thanks much and sorry for all the questions. I assure you I used search and I attempted to put it together on my own. It's been a long time since I've modded (G1 was the last time) and I don't do it often. Also, apologies if I posted this in the wrong section....I considered posting it in Dev. section but this one seemed better suited.
Thanks again, XDA rocks.
Neoprimal said:
Hey all,
I'm getting my G Tablet tomorrow and I'd just like to get some things clarified.
I know, the first thing some will say is USE SEARCH! Well, I did - and that's actually why I just want to get some things straight before I go down the path of modifying the device software. See, reading it all has managed to confuse me more than help me get a definitive instruction set for forging ahead.
I'm seeing the update "****s on CWM" according to a user...and then a 'fix' for that. Than I see that Gapps causes FCs for some, while it works for others. So...yeah, a little back and forth on what to do and who's instructions to follow.
Alright, so first thing's first....Should I flash the Clockwork Mod that I'm seeing available - 0.8? or is there something else I should consider or that I've missed? or maybe wait for a newer version? Should I even flash CWM if I get the newest (and I WILL be getting the newest) S/W version? Are there any downsides at all to flashing CWM on there in terms of messing with OTA updates, etc?
I read this:
"All the ROMS use a standard firmware updater that can be used by non-technical users. Here is an explanation on how it works:...."
Sooo, does that mean I can live without CWM? If an update doesn't work for some reason, will I be able to fix it or overwrite it somehow if I can't get into the tablet at all from the tablet itself? I read something about going into APX mode and putting things on through Windows, is this an infallible method?
Second of all, I read the FAQ thoroughly (I think and hope) but I'm still not 100% on what Gapps to DL or how to put a working Android Market on there especially with this new S/W update. I've seen how to 'fix' the Market to see missing apps, but not how to actually install it on the G Tablet. I may have missed that post somewhere on here.
I'm also unclear if I should get Gapps or not at all, as I've read that some have FCs on there while others do not - so what's the general consensus in light of this update that was just released as of Dec. 21, 2010?
Ultimately, here is what I'd like from my GTab:
I'd like to run the new official Tapn'Tap released recently first and foremost.
I'd like to have the official/unofficial (w/e) Google Market.
I'd like to run Google Apps (Gtalk, Gmail, etc.).
IF I don't like Tapn'Tap, and this is a worse case scenario situation, as in if I HATE TnT - I'd like to have the option to slap something else on there and I'd like to make sure I don't brick my Tablet. Whether that means storing an original official TnT ROM or whatever.
Point me in the right direction please, especially considering things may have changed as of the new S/W update.
Thanks much and sorry for all the questions. I assure you I used search and I attempted to put it together on my own. It's been a long time since I've modded (G1 was the last time) and I don't do it often. Also, apologies if I posted this in the wrong section....I considered posting it in Dev. section but this one seemed better suited.
Thanks again, XDA rocks.
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I don't know how much direction pointing I can do but here goes..
Clockwork mod in my opinion is a necessity. Version 0.8 is the best one for most people because of how it deals with the memory locations. Yes, you can do things without it. The update process is as simple as putting an update.zip file, and a recovery folder with a command file in it on an sdcard and holding the vol + button while hitting power. It is easy. Clockwork has a lot of little features though that make life easier. You can make a complete system backup with it. You can install updates, and new firmware with it. You can completely lock up your tablet and using clockwork and your backup be back in business in about 3-4 minutes. You can load new roms and if you hate them you can go back to your old working stuff in minutes. Yes, there are ways to make one of these tablets work again when they get stuck. I don't think anyone has actually bricked one. Some may think they have, but I doubt it.
Unless you are dead set on wanting the stock TnT interface the easiest way to get what you want is to load one of the roms. Yes, there are ways to get most of it without loading a new rom. Most everyone that has gone the I have to stay stock but want all the mods has eventually just loaded a rom. TnT3.0 is based on the latest stock stuff. It has the market, flash, etc. already in it. VegaN is what I use mostly but they are both stable and fast.
Before you flash something brand new that just came out I would read about it and see what others have to say about issues. It usually only takes about 30 minutes until you can tell if it is going to be good or not.
All of the roms for this tablet have there own little quirks. The stock has gotten better with each update but it still is not as good as the ones I named.
Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable. Anything you can possibly break one of us has probably already broken before and fixed. There are some people that seem to have problems doing every little thing. Most don't. So I wouldn't let any of it scare you off because none of it is that hard.
With a little bit of searching almost everything you may want it to do can be done. I really love mine, and when I got it almost 2 months ago I hated it...
"Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable. Anything you can possibly break one of us has probably already broken before and fixed. There are some people that seem to have problems doing every little thing. Most don't. So I wouldn't let any of it scare you off because none of it is that hard."
"Sigh" of relief. Then I'm not too worried. As I said I've dabbled in modifying my G1 and it is mostly cake. But I've just been seeing conflicting posts on whether cwm works with the newest official tnt release or not so I wasn't sure what to do.
Thanks for your advice. And when I said pointers, I meant like this as well as pointing me to any posts I may have missed on how to do whatever. Though I THINK I found most of them.
Neoprimal said:
"Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable. Anything you can possibly break one of us has probably already broken before and fixed. There are some people that seem to have problems doing every little thing. Most don't. So I wouldn't let any of it scare you off because none of it is that hard."
"Sigh" of relief. Then I'm not too worried. As I said I've dabbled in modifying my G1 and it is mostly cake. But I've just been seeing conflicting posts on whether cwm works with the newest official tnt release or not so I wasn't sure what to do.
Thanks for your advice. And when I said pointers, I meant like this as well as pointing me to any posts I may have missed on how to do whatever. Though I THINK I found most of them.
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The new release overwrites clockwork. But it is not hard to put back. Always a good idea to copy the clockwork backups folder to your pc, or somewhere they won't be lost. The custom roms typically leave the recovery image alone and can be installed with or without clockwork by either extracting the zip contents for stock recovery, or installing it as is in clockwork.
Sprdtyf350 said:
Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable.
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I can vouch for that. Erased system, boot, data and cache in preparation for a new ROM. Accidentally rebooted and couldn't get into recovery. Booted it into APX mode, flashed stock and was on my way.
I would just run ZRoot, then upload the TnTLite 3.0 recovery and update.zip and then do the recovery mode process. You should have a microsd handy just in case it doesn't work, but so far I haven't needed that.
This tablet is much easier to work with and very forgiving since VS never took the time to lock down the bootloader etc like Motorola did with my Droid X. You really shouldn't fear changing files out etc, provided you're getting a ROM from one of the people providing them here. If you can press and hold two buttons at once, you can make your gTab an awesome little tablet. It benchmarks about 1000 points higher than my Droid X on quadrant. Can't wait to see what these guys can do with Gingerbread.
Sprdtyf350 said:
The new release overwrites clockwork. But it is not hard to put back. Always a good idea to copy the clockwork backups folder to your pc, or somewhere they won't be lost. The custom roms typically leave the recovery image alone and can be installed with or without clockwork by either extracting the zip contents for stock recovery, or installing it as is in clockwork.
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It is also not hard to alter the update so that it does not overwrite clockwork.
Open update.zip
Find updater-script, Open in notepad++
Remove the line that references recovery.img
Flash update
hogasswild said:
I would just run ZRoot, then upload the TnTLite 3.0 recovery and update.zip and then do the recovery mode process. You should have a microsd handy just in case it doesn't work, but so far I haven't needed that.
This tablet is much easier to work with and very forgiving since VS never took the time to lock down the bootloader etc like Motorola did with my Droid X. You really shouldn't fear changing files out etc, provided you're getting a ROM from one of the people providing them here. If you can press and hold two buttons at once, you can make your gTab an awesome little tablet. It benchmarks about 1000 points higher than my Droid X on quadrant. Can't wait to see what these guys can do with Gingerbread.
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with the new update however does the z4root still work? i heard it may not anymore. just curious also since im hopefully getting mine on sat for xmas
rothnic said:
It is also not hard to alter the update so that it does not overwrite clockwork.
Open update.zip
Find updater-script, Open in notepad++
Remove the line that references recovery.img
Flash update
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Thanks for the info Rothnic! I had already flashed it before I figured out it removed Clockwork. Learning new stuff every day is good... Thanks..
dragonfly1113 said:
with the new update however does the z4root still work? i heard it may not anymore. just curious also since im hopefully getting mine on sat for xmas
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The very first time I rooted, I used ZRoot and installed 2.4.0. I didn't change anything and used the exact same process of simply copying over the 3.0.0 files over to the root directory of the internal memory and did the recovery procedure (vol+ and pwr keys). It worked like a charm.
hogasswild said:
The very first time I rooted, I used ZRoot and installed 2.4.0. I didn't change anything and used the exact same process of simply copying over the 3.0.0 files over to the root directory of the internal memory and did the recovery procedure (vol+ and pwr keys). It worked like a charm.
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Ok cool, thanks cant wait for my g tablet hopefully sat morning
I think you'll like it a lot. I also own an iPad. While they are similar they are also a little different. Merry Christmas!
hogasswild said:
I think you'll like it a lot. I also own an iPad. While they are similar they are also a little different. Merry Christmas!
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my mom has an ipad and my dad could only buy it while i was on my honeymoon bc he knew i wouldnt approve of an apple device in the house haha.
rothnic said:
It is also not hard to alter the update so that it does not overwrite clockwork.
Open update.zip
Find updater-script, Open in notepad++
Remove the line that references recovery.img
Flash update
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My device hasn't come yet (damn you FedEx!) but I'm eagerly awaiting it.
My plan:
Unbox, start it....do a factory reset from the getgo if it has enough juice.
Set it back up. Charge it to full. If whatever comes on it is as unbearable as I've seen in on Youtube - start modifications.
Will CWM install on it AFTER I do the update if it's available to me? I've seen that the update messes with it if it's already there - but noone's mentioned putting it on there after the fact. I may just go that route for simplicity sake.
Thanks for this!, and thank you all for chiming in with your experience. I feel much better about just getting my hands dirty in it all. I had wrote something to someone yesterday about jumping in and just doing it, but when it comes to dealing with it yourself it can be a daunting task - especially when it still has that new smell, lol. Anyway, thanks again. You guys really rock.
Will stop back later on after I've done my thing
I think they are both nice devices. There are trade off for both of them. I think the screen on the iPad is wonderful, where the gTab's is okay. But the gTab has a forward facing camera, you can print from it, and you can modify it fairly easily too.
Sprdtyf350 said:
Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable.
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...famous last words...
Seriously though...trust the directions from the great devs like roebeet. Follow their instructions word for word. You can switch ROMs and then flash back if you want. No worries...
Off topic!
Well...disappointment! Fedex had my package out for delivery at 8am and at 8pm, they're not here. This is why I like UPS, they show up at my door on the day of delivery, no exceptions - they have shown up at almost 9pm before. The Archos 101 I got was sent out at 8am as well but got here at 1:30pm - I suppose that was before the holiday rush.
Checking the details of my tracking I'm seeing a "delivery exception" at 7:30pm (I guess it was time to get back to the facility so they can clock out by 8pm?) and upon calling them I get a somewhat stumbling but polite CS who tells me the delivery went out "late" - upon which I asked if 8am was considered late, especially from a distribution facility WITHIN the same zip code as I am, and all he could say was "Very sorry about this".
Aaaanyway....I guess it will be tomorrow before I can report my adventures.
Think I'll be able to get my $3.99 back from Amazon? I have Prime and with that the package would have come tomorrow anyway. Basically my $3.99 is wasted. Imagine if I didn't have Prime though? Whew.
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...famous last words...
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If you can figure out how to brick it you will probably get an award.. It won't be a good award but probably one of those top ten dumb things people do awards. So far unless you plug the motherboard into a wall socket no one has bricked one. May think they have, but like I said before I doubt it..
And your right.. If it can be done, someone eventually will figure out how. And then we will all laugh at them.. At least I will
I finally got the G tablet tonight and...alright, don't flame me for this - but I don't see what all the complaints about the screen being horrendous or the device being molasses slow are about?
I don't know how people are trying to view it...but when looking at it or setting it on a stand to watch media, I'm not seeing any problem with the viewing angles. It's about the same as my laptop so I watch it the same way.
It's not even a 1/4 as slow as the stuff I've seen on Youtube or in some of the review videos I've seen around the net. I haven't gotten a single FC. Granted, I haven't put in a SD Card yet so maybe problems will start then?
I guess I should note, the very first thing I did was did a factory reset. Then I hooked it up to Wifi and got the 3053 update. I'm one of those who will be waiting for the 'official' update on the 24th.
I set up the time and date, restarted and everything works. I haven't installed flash yet (don't need it that much) and stuff that I DO want on there right now works fine (skype, pandora, fring, dropbox, evernote). I'm slowly figuring out a list of what I want/need from my Mytouch 4G to port to the VS GTab. Figure I don't really NEED Gtalk, Gmail on there because I have these on my phone AND PC - do I really want them making noises all around my home on 3 devices? I was concerned about getting the Google Apps on but now I'm finding I really don't need them. So it seems to me this will be a matter of learning to separate what I need on a tablet vs. my phone - I was of the mentality that I should just get whatever's on my phone on the tablet, this is something others apparently do as they seem to want everything that's on their phone, on their tablets as well.
I personally don't see the point in that. Had I had the Google Market, that would have escaped me as I'd have used Appbrain to just get my motherload of apps from the MT4G to the GTab. Not having it has slowed me, and now I get to re-evaluate before I do grab apps for it.
Now I just have to merge/convert my HTPC into a NAS device as well and find an app that will allow me to DLNA stream media from it and I'll be in mobile heaven.
I haven't had my wifi drop at all anywhere in my home and I've marched all over with it (I use full Wifi N, no G compat. so maybe my range is wider?). Tried email, etc. to replicate crashes and force closes but haven't so far. No surfing issues. I DID find that one app got 'stuck' being downloaded and I had to delete the file before the 'downloading' icon would go away, even after restart.
Maybe the trick to getting a workable GTab in the first place is to factory reset it before first use? Iunno. Things may change and issues may pop up the more I use it and as time passes - but so far, so good!
Again, I can't thank XDA enough for the advice and info. I've found and been given.
Sprdtyf350 said:
If you can figure out how to brick it you will probably get an award.. It won't be a good award but probably one of those top ten dumb things people do awards. So far unless you plug the motherboard into a wall socket no one has bricked one. May think they have, but like I said before I doubt it..
And your right.. If it can be done, someone eventually will figure out how. And then we will all laugh at them.. At least I will
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I figured it out. Accidentally hit one of the devkit nvflash .cabs and boom
Note: I'm posting this on multiple forums to receive more varied feedback, so if you see it in a couple places, please don't get upset.
I'm thinking of getting rid of my Inspire for a Nexus One. I'm frankly disappointed in the battery life and the customization options available to me. I've been reading these forums for quite awhile, so I'm very aware of all the options I have with my Inspire -- telling me that I can root "following this guide" or whatnot isn't going to be a game-changer for me.
What are your thoughts? What will I miss going from the Inspire to the Nexus One? What might I like better about the Nexus One? Is the trackball really that exciting?
If I do end up looking to do it, what do I have to look for when getting one? I know they sold them for TMo only first, and then brought out an AT&T compatible one. I've heard that there were two different screens available for them, does anyone have a preference or know what the difference might be? If I do end up looking for one, where should I look? Do you think there would be people willing to trade a Nexus One for an Inspire plus some cash?
I've already done a backup to the SD card via My Backup Pro - if I get a Nexus One, should I just have to insert the SIM and SD card and restore everything, or do I have to worry about more than that?
Any thoughts or advice is welcome! Thank you!
What customization options are you disappointed about? Just remember the Inspire is just 2 months old and look how far we have gotten with it so far.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA Premium App
True, I do recognize that I'm posting in the XDA forums! I'm speaking of a stock, unrooted Inspire. I'm not willing to root this phone -- after reading nearly everything there is to read on it, I'm convinced I will break it or get lost. I know my limits, and this is it. If there was a way to root without needing a gold card or downgrading or any of that, I might be in. There are many phones out there that can even be rooted without losing your info! This is complicated. At this point I'd simply be following directions whose actual meaning I'd be completely lost to, and just hoping that everything was done right in the right order. And if something went wrong, I'd have no idea where or how in between S-off, gold cards, downgrading, radios, sound issues, Eng S-off, etc.
I'm not knocking the people here, you have done amazing things with a phone that did NOT want to be rooted/customized. I'm just not able to take advantage of what you've done, because to be honest -- it is all above my head. And I'm not willing to be one of those people with the "Help! I think I turned my Inspire into a rabbit" threads.
Silas0220 said:
True, I do recognize that I'm posting in the XDA forums! I'm speaking of a stock, unrooted Inspire. I'm not willing to root this phone -- after reading nearly everything there is to read on it, I'm convinced I will break it or get lost. I know my limits, and this is it. If there was a way to root without needing a gold card or downgrading or any of that, I might be in. There are many phones out there that can even be rooted without losing your info! This is complicated. At this point I'd simply be following directions whose actual meaning I'd be completely lost to, and just hoping that everything was done right in the right order. And if something went wrong, I'd have no idea where or how in between S-off, gold cards, downgrading, radios, sound issues, Eng S-off, etc.
I'm not knocking the people here, you have done amazing things with a phone that did NOT want to be rooted/customized. I'm just not able to take advantage of what you've done, because to be honest -- it is all above my head. And I'm not willing to be one of those people with the "Help! I think I turned my Inspire into a rabbit" threads.
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rooting is easier then you think!
HTC Inspire on CM7. Beast ROM. If I helped Thank me
I wouldn't touch a Nexus One with a ten foot pole. I am too used to using modern tech. That phone is very dated and feels every month of it. It would be like me giving up my Inspire for an iPhone 3G. If I were to move to the Nexus, I'd definitely be looking at the Nexus S. It's still an older tech phone, but has a nicer screen, it's lighter, and has a great support community.
However, I really can't think of anything you could do with the Nexus One that you can't with the Inspire... Every rom you could think of is here on this phone. The Captivate devs are almost all over here now, so we have that going for us. Of course, I'm in an HSPA+ area, so I'd also be taking a nose dive in data speed.
Oh yea, and using the newest version of the LeeDroid rom with SetCPU on the "Smartass" governer, I'm just now pluggin my phone in at the 34 hour mark with 5 hours of screen time... That's pretty damn good, if I do say so my damn self.
Many of your points involve rooting, which I've already said worries me. I'm a perfectly capable computer person, but the phone tech is daunting to me. I don't know where to start, and most of the terminology is worrying. You say it's easier than it looks, but that's because you've done it! To me looking in from the outside, it's so far beyond me it's like wanting to live on a base on the moon...
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Many of your points involve rooting, which I've already said worries me. I'm a perfectly capable computer person, but the phone tech is daunting to me. I don't know where to start, and most of the terminology is worrying. You say it's easier than it looks, but that's because you've done it! To me looking in from the outside, it's so far beyond me it's like wanting to live on a base on the moon...
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Don't sweat it, man. Just hop into the "One Click Root" thread in the Development forum. It'll outline what you need to have before starting the process. It will guide you step by step through what you need to do. It's a headache when you first do it, but after that you'll be flashing like a champ. It's addictive. Feel free to PM me if you want to go through it together. I'll be more than happy to help. Just make sure you do everything with a fully charged battery.
One Click Root thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961406
Also, there's a video in the top part of the first post. It's for an earlier version of the root app, but it's still very viable and lets you watch someone do it before you go through it.
Maybe he will like that with the N1 you can have a dirty trackball(since most are used now) that can change colors? You know colors with a "Brownish" tint.
The only thing advantage I could think of is there is a chance to use a cheaper data plan with the N1. But then again, the last time I used a N1 was a yr ago, so now the IMEIs may be recognized by ATT. But not sure if the OP realizes that you can do this.
Yeah, I've kinda dismissed the whole "Stick it to AT&T and use a $10 data plan!" thing. From what I can tell, the ones who do it are pretty much just lucky at this point. If you can say being stuck on Edge is lucky...
*takes a deep breath* Okay, maybe I'll look into this whole rooting business. I'd say I've been through about 1/3 of the pages in that one click root thread... Seems like a fair few people are getting things mucked up -- would you say they're pretty much the ones who are messing with things I'd likely never touch? Do I ever need to worry about a radio? Does the stock rooted ROM that's loaded at the end of it allow for better battery life and overclocking? Those are really my two biggest concerns if I'm going to root (and yeah, I get that they're counterproductive!).
I know I'm asking all the noob questions over again, most of which have already been answered many times here. People tend to get impatient with people like me getting into this kind of stuff, which is one reason I chose to stay away from it. This editorial (http://www.androidcentral.com/sometimes-root-isn’t-answer) also made me think twice (or three times)...
If I get into this, what I'd like to be able to do is to copy all my SD card files onto my computer, keeping the whole thing intact, copy it all back once this thing is done and I no longer need the gold card, fire up My Backup Pro, and have everything end up right back where it was. I really feel as if this is asking too much...
I know the feeling of everything looking really complex and hard. I came from a black berry, the key to rooting with either method is reading the directions. The directions are extremely watered down. What exactly scares you about rooting, what terminology? We are here to help you. The inspire is an amazing little device.
Thank you all for being willing to be so helpful. I'd say I was mostly turned off to rooting by going through the Hack Kit and One Click threads and reading about all the people who actually know what they're talking about having issues and breaking things. I figured if they were breaking things, I'd be SURE to mess something up big time.
I'll be keeping you guys at my fingertips for PMs if this goes badly, and I really do appreciate you being willing to help.
For those of you who do this ROM swapping thing often, is there any way to have some program make a snapshot of your homescreens so you don't have to re-configure them every time? Seems like it'd be a pain.
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Thank you all for being willing to be so helpful. I'd say I was mostly turned off to rooting by going through the Hack Kit and One Click threads and reading about all the people who actually know what they're talking about having issues and breaking things. I figured if they were breaking things, I'd be SURE to mess something up big time.
I'll be keeping you guys at my fingertips for PMs if this goes badly, and I really do appreciate you being willing to help.
For those of you who do this ROM swapping thing often, is there any way to have some program make a snapshot of your homescreens so you don't have to re-configure them every time? Seems like it'd be a pain.
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Breaking things not so much . No one has completely bricked their inspire. There are a few things here and there that pop up and usually already have a fix posted for them.
Check out the guide to flashing at the top of this forum, I tried to get as detailed as I could.
Honestly no, Flashing a new rom (not an patch/upgrade) will be like booting your phone up for the first time. Though you can back up your sms,apps, and contacts. Everything else you will have to set up again. It can be a pain, but the pros far out weigh the cons !
Any reason you can see for me to use the hack kit over the one click?
Sent from a solid block of aluminum.
They are both good, the hack kit lets you be a little more involved with the rooting process. Where the GUI is more automated. The GUI has the potential to flash the h-boot wrong after it is rooted and s-off, leading to a black cwm screen. You can find a fix for that in the guide that is stickied.
Ooooookay, taking a deep breath and diving in. I'll let you know when I come up for air...
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Any reason you can see for me to use the hack kit over the one click?
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I say the only reason you should use the hack kit is to understand adb commands a little bit better. I've used both methods and felt a tiny bit more accomplished with the hack kit. Don't worry about messing up, there are plenty of people willing to lend a hand.
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Currently downloading the One Click with about 7 minutes to go. Is there an easy way to tell what ROMs allow for overclocking and to what point? I don't exactly see the need at the moment (I've never noticed my Inspire running slowly), but it'd be nice for future-proofing. I've been able to gather that OC requires more to do with the kernel than the ROM, and that not every ROM includes a kernel (I'm not even sure what I'd do with a kernel if I got one...). I'm figuring it's safe to assume that the stock rooted ROM that is loaded by the One Click doesn't have any OC abilities.
EDIT: I believe from most of my reading that I'm most interested in the LeeDroid ROM and accoutrements. Someone earlier mentioned that they are using this right now -- from going through his thread, it looks like that involves kernels and radios in addition to ROMS. I'm not asking for anyone to do anything special for me, but is there a step-by-step on how to go from post-One Click to happy LeeDroid?
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Currently downloading the One Click with about 7 minutes to go. Is there an easy way to tell what ROMs allow for overclocking and to what point? I don't exactly see the need at the moment (I've never noticed my Inspire running slowly), but it'd be nice for future-proofing. I've been able to gather that OC requires more to do with the kernel than the ROM, and that not every ROM includes a kernel (I'm not even sure what I'd do with a kernel if I got one...). I'm figuring it's safe to assume that the stock rooted ROM that is loaded by the One Click doesn't have any OC abilities.
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Unless they changed it no (GUI).
Most devs will put OC or [OC] in the threads title, most of the time the kernel will flash along side of the rom. Though if it isn't and it is an optional kernel, the best method is to flash the the rom, then reboot, then flash the kernel. Most are overclocked to 1.8ghz some are 1.5ghz.
edit: You flash a kernel like you would a rom, except when flashing a kernel you don't do a full wipe, but it is best to wipe cache and dalvik cache.
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Don't sweat it, man. Just hop into the "One Click Root" thread in the Development forum. It'll outline what you need to have before starting the process. It will guide you step by step through what you need to do. It's a headache when you first do it, but after that you'll be flashing like a champ. It's addictive. Feel free to PM me if you want to go through it together. I'll be more than happy to help. Just make sure you do everything with a fully charged battery.
One Click Root thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961406
Also, there's a video in the top part of the first post. It's for an earlier version of the root app, but it's still very viable and lets you watch someone do it before you go through it.
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I have to chime in here and say that I have rooted and flashed my old Nexus one many times and I was totally lost with the Inspire root methods. I literally got a migraine just reading through the one-click thread the first time.
What are you having trouble understanding about it?
First off I would like to say hi and thanks to everyone on here, this forum rocks! But I honestly feel my Mesmerize has been a bigger disappointment to me than my Behold I had with T-Mobile! I switched to US Cellular and this phone cause they have better coverage where I live, and I wanted a phone I could customize so i wouldn't have the same thing as everyone else lol. I did the 2.2 update as soon as it released, toyed around with some of the other firmwares on here and what not before it was available, but started having the problem where my phone wouldn't notify me of incoming calls. So i used the files on here to go back to 2.1 using Odin and rooted for future possibilities, I receive every call now. But onto my questions lol, I was wondering if anyone on here has found a way to fix the incoming call problem on 2.2 that i had? How can I get voodoo onto my phone the way it is right now? I have tried every way described on here and through searching, keep finding dead links, phone will not update zip from sdcard on reboot, have tried numerous files that way! If you guys could post some links that would help me out with my problems, to files, and what not, that would be greatly appreciated. Sorry for the long winded post, just tired of searching everywhere and not getting anywhere, thanks!
Honestly, there *is* a thread that covers what you're after; it's bde's How to Customize your Mesmerize thread found Here. I should probably get on him to update the "First get Stock Froyo on your phone" link, because it does have an old link last time I checked. That's about the only one that I know of, every other link works.
Above all, make sure to always wipe your cache (any "Wipe ..." option you can find, one is under Advanced, except for Battery Cache) once you get Clockwork Mod (CWM) Red Recovery installed before you flash a ROM. It really does make things flash better, fewer FCs, and so on. There are times when you can get away without it, but in that event it's best to assume things will be glitchy unless they aren't. From the brief information you gave, I'd suspect that's what happened to your phone.
Best advice anyone here will give you: Read read read. Following that, read some more. Some people can only learn by doing, sure, but become as intimately familiar with the processes and terms as you can.
I suspect I'll do this a lot, but check out the Glossary in my signature, and read through the whole post. It should give you all the little "this goes here, but doesn't work there" kinds of pointers you need, all in one place.
Good luck! Hopefully from here on out, you can really enjoy your Mesmerize, and welcome to the forums!
Hi, thanks for the reply. I do need to read through the glossary post you put up a little more thoroughly, just kinda glanced so far LOL. I also have checked out that link as well, but honestly I won't go back to froyo, not worth the missing calls to me when my phone is how I make a living at the moment. Just mostly interested in finding a lagfix and the voodoo sound for 2.1.
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mikef509 said:
Hi, thanks for the reply. I do need to read through the glossary post you put up a little more thoroughly, just kinda glanced so far LOL. I also have checked out that link as well, but honestly I won't go back to froyo, not worth the missing calls to me when my phone is how I make a living at the moment. Just mostly interested in finding a lagfix and the voodoo sound for 2.1.
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Missing calls has never been a problem with froyo as far as I'm concerned. Uscc did realease their official version not long ago, getting 2.2 by that means should be flawless.
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The US Cellular froyo upgrade is what i used and had all the problems with not being notified of my incoming calls, its a very well known problem from what I have found out by searching on google, took my 4-5 times of calling me before my phone rang, and he is with US Cellular as well
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As a quick note, the missed calls thing is actually a Samsung issue that is known and is/was an issue on both 2.1 and 2.2 that is being worked on and a new firmware release is coming soon from what I have seen. I'm hoping to have more on that soon.
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Hey, guys. Hoping some of you experts can help me diagnose what's wrong with my Samsung Infuse. I bought it off Craigslist at the end of May, and the guy had the phone with the original screen protector on it, with the original case and all accessories, so I had no reason to believe it had any problems. He told me the phone was already rooted & unlocked, which I wanted since I signed up with Straight Talk. I used it for June & July and had a host of problems, so I put on the CM10 ROM last week to see if it helped. It didn't. Here are the problems I continuously encounter:
1. When going to unlock my phone with a pattern, once in awhile it won't detect my finger-presses. Sometimes nothing shows up at all, sometimes one of the dots will highlight as I pass over it, but it won't draw. Eventually the screen turns off, and I turn it on and try it again. Usually it ends up working.
2. The battery dies much quicker than I expect it should. I tried running JuiceDefender and not running JuiceDefender, and it doesn't seem to make a difference. Even without using my phone much for anything, even with the screen off, the battery will run out before the day is out. It's like if you were driving and had a hole in your tire... seems like some sort of a leak.
3. The cell radio seems flaky. Sometimes I won't get texts on time. A lot of the time I can't access any data, which is very important as I use Google Voice for lots of my texting, so I send a text and it won't go out. Loading web pages or reloading my email shows that it is a data problem.
Those are the primary problems, and I suspect that somehow they are all related. I'm not sure if the Craigslist guy sold me a lemon, or there is some other problem that came up. I've tried multiple ROM's and disabling every app I can think of. Can anyone think of anything that would cause these problems & any way to fix it? Or do I just own a broke phone that I have to throw in the garbage?
Thanks in advance for reading!
a whole slew of problems can lead to a whole slew of possibilities for your issues.
first, i wasnt aware that you could do any of this on a straight talk phone, but i could be wrong. i am not the "expert" you may be looking or hoping for, though one i am sure will show up.
second, i think the response you may get is......did you go to JB straight from Gingerbread??? that will cause HUGE problems.
dd you read OP and follow to a tee??? again HUUUUGGEE problems.
the "never fail" here.....READ READ READ. feel confident as to what you are doing and follow steps one at a time. UNDERSTAND steps one at a time.
first thing that never hurts.....return to stock and start from scratch.
"super everything thread" under development.
Odin "stock-root & modded 3e rcovery.
follow all directions TO THE TTT.
if that doesnt work, you might have to get some mortar, you've got yourself a BRICK.
i know almost everyone else here is more of a expert than i am, but i do believe that is where they will tell you to start
good luck and be sure and thank the experts
captemo said:
first, i wasnt aware that you could do any of this on a straight talk phone, but i could be wrong. i am not the "expert" you may be looking or hoping for, though one i am sure will show up.
second, i think the response you may get is......did you go to JB straight from Gingerbread??? that will cause HUGE problems.
dd you read OP and follow to a tee??? again HUUUUGGEE problems.
first thing that never hurts.....return to stock and start from scratch.
"super everything thread" under development.
Odin "stock-root & modded 3e rcovery.
follow all directions TO THE TTT.
if that doesnt work, you might have to get some mortar, you've got yourself a BRICK.
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While I have no idea what you're getting at by your Straight Talk comment, as ST is little more than AT&T service that's sold through a 3rd party at a discounted rate, the fact that he's using ST may be part of his problems, at least in regards to the network issues. I'm also having an unbelievable amount of data issues on ST. ST is having some network problems that are affecting a decent amount of customers who are on their AT&T network.
One thing that the OP may want to try is this: Download DNS Changer from the Play Store, and change your primary and secondary DNS to OpenDNS1 and OpenDNS2. Or try different settings, as there are a bunch that are available. That has made at least some difference with my data connectivity issues.
Based on my own experience, having tried to go to JB directly from GB, is that if it's going to affect your radio, it's likely to completely wipe out your EFS data so you won't have ANY cellular or data networking capabilities. As stated, that's simply based on how it worked out for me, and there could easily be other side-effects that just didn't happen to show up for me.
I agree with returning completely to stock UCLB3, with the GB bootloaders. Then flash Entropy's 4.4.2012 Kernel, which will also install CWM Recovery. I'd personally reccomend Heimdall, as it seems to be somewhat simpler. Detailed information on returning to stock via Heimdall can be found in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1629079&highlight=heimdall+uclb3
If you use it, be sure to thank qkster for making it available. He's probably the most helpful person you're likely to find on this forum, especially where us noobs are concerned.
I would take it back to stock and start all over.
Here is a very helpful thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1700416
I agree with parrot head. When issues arise go back to stock. That's the best part of our phones. They are damn near impossible to really mess up. Just have to be ware of bootloader flash going wrong. If you got your gb rom from keis your good to go though.
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Appreciate the response, guys. I guess it doesn't hurt to try to start from scratch... AGAIN! It just seems like I'm putting an awful lot of hours into putting new ROM's and bootloaders on this phone. Going to be especially frustrating if I go through all the steps and it still doesn't fix my issues, which would mean my phone is broke. Oh well, guess I have little other choice.
All of the issues sound related..
It shouldn't take long to drop to stock and flash up to JB.. I've bobbled and missed steps here and there and have had to return from stock more times than I care to admit.. even rooting and flashing up the ladder only take about 20 minutes if even that..
Good luck!
drnecropolis said:
All of the issues sound related..
It shouldn't take long to drop to stock and flash up to JB.. I've bobbled and missed steps here and there and have had to return from stock more times than I care to admit.. even rooting and flashing up the ladder only take about 20 minutes if even that..
Good luck!
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Yes, the flashing process isn't that long, it's getting back my phone to all of my customized settings that ends up taking weeks. Home screen icon positioning, logging in to every app, system settings, etc.
Didn't create a backup?
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Didn't create a backup?
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I've always created backups with Titanium Backup, but when I restore the apps, a lot of them ask me to re-login or re-verify myself.
Thanks for the advice guys.
Spent a whole day going back to stock, then CWM red, then ICS, then Jellybean. Things seem to be markedly better, but the phone still seems laggy in a few places. Is this just because it's not the latest and greatest processor?
Also, the GPS just does not work right. It's still identifying me as being in Missouri even though I'm in Nevada. Consistently. Do I just have to live with that?
veeRob said:
Thanks for the advice guys.
Spent a whole day going back to stock, then CWM red, then ICS, then Jellybean. Things seem to be markedly better, but the phone still seems laggy in a few places. Is this just because it's not the latest and greatest processor?
Also, the GPS just does not work right. It's still identifying me as being in Missouri even though I'm in Nevada. Consistently. Do I just have to live with that?
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Are you still using the Trebuchet Launcher that comes built-in to the JB ROM? If so, that may be part of your lag problems. I just use ADW EX launcher. Here's an excerpt from the Paranoid Android JB OP:
******* EVERYONE: If you experience a sudden lag for no reason, IT is due to Trebuchet. GOOD NEWS though... From reading the log cat on my end, there is a very simple fix... Go to settings -Launcher - Homescreen - And Check "Resize any widget" and you are good to go! Instantly fixes the lag problem that a few have been experiencing. I have located the source code that needs to be changed and this will be enabled by default on future builds. ********
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As far as the GPS goes, I think Samsung just used ****ty receivers in the Infuse. My GPS isn't quite as bad as yours seems to be, but it's nowhere near as accurate or reliable as the GPS chipset in my crummy little Optimus V.
Alright so let me start off by saying that I have never had so much hell rooting and putting a custom Rom onto a phone. I am also a bit disappointed in xda as non of the articles were of much help, they were all broken up and I ran into trouble at literally every step. The easiest part was rooting the phone with ioroot, but finding it actually wasn't that easy because most of the tutorials I found from the start kept having me use other methods and none of them worked.
Second once I performed this step and had everything installed I realized that in order to use my wifi hotspot, I was going to need a custom rom. this was of course after trying dozens of worthless hotspot apps in the store, none of which worked. So I started trying to put a custom recovery on the phone, this was by far the hardest part, I tried and scoured the internet for 3 days, I swear to god I read every article and tried every method out there....the new ATT LG G2's however have a lock on the recovery to prevent people from doing this, I found it strange that none of these articles written based on 4.4.2 thought to mention that an exploit has not yet been found. Finally I ran across an article where I learned of this and was told to downgrade, so I downloaded SuperSport & big fau LG G2 D800 Flash stock. Thinking that this rom was going to unlock the recovery because it said it would, I ran through the process.
This however, was not the case and it didn't help, the whole time I was convinced that this had unlocked my recovery, I continued to try every tutorial on installing a recovery onto this device, the AT&T LG G2 kitkat 4.4.2 (D80020c), which btw is a week old from the date of this post. I like a lot of other people, will have this phone and be looking to unlock, root, install custom recovery, and install custom rom. For this I would like to figure out a few things and hopefully if y'all help me figure this out, I can include fixes for it in the next article that I write, which will explain how I successfully put a custom rom on my AT&T from start to finish. I will also include in this article what could go wrong and how to fix it, too many articles are written without taking into consideration the possibilities of what could go wrong.
It took me three solid days of scouring the internet to get a custom Rom on my phone, running through problems at every step I still have a few questions. After downgrading from 4.4.2 to 4.2.2 my recovery was broke, thankfully I was able to fix this using flashify in the app store. I then installed Cyanogen Mod 10 (cm-10.2.0-d802.zip). and installed it through recovery, when I rebooted I was presented with a fastboot which would do crap when I would plug the usb into my computer...I never figured out what the problem was for this, but I ended up trying a version of CM 10 which was released for the LG G2 D80010d that I downgraded too, the tethering doesn't work...no big deal, but the problem is when I set WiFi hotspot up and connect, on my computer I get SSL error's, my computer completely refuses to let my connect to facebook or google, saying that the connection is insecure, it won't let me grab any kind of certificate and I can't find a solution online. I have tried rebooting both the computer and phone, I don't get these errors on the WiFi at the gas station.
In the above paragraph, I stated the two problems I couldn't really figure out, I haven't tried to install any other custom roms, but I will try that today, I have to save my bandwidth on my phone so I will walk down to the truck stop and download one, ps I had to flash my phone back to stock about 5 times before I finally figured out I needed to downgrade it, then I had to do it 2 more times.
If y'all take the time to read this and help me, then I will take the time to write a new and working article describing how to do it from start to finish and it will be written with explicit detail on every problem I came across and how I fixed it.
Figured out how to mix the firmware
Alright, so I was reading through a few more articles and I ran across this link, which will allow you to upgrade back to D80020c, but without loosing the stock recovery. I'm going to have to wait till later today to give it a try though, because the internet at the truck stop is to slow to download something of that size.
J0hnC0nn3r said:
Alright so let me start off by saying that I have never had so much hell rooting and putting a custom Rom onto a phone. I am also a bit disappointed in xda as non of the articles were of much help, they were all broken up and I ran into trouble at literally every step. The easiest part was rooting the phone with ioroot, but finding it actually wasn't that easy because most of the tutorials I found from the start kept having me use other methods and none of them worked.
Second once I performed this step and had everything installed I realized that in order to use my wifi hotspot, I was going to need a custom rom. this was of course after trying dozens of worthless hotspot apps in the store, none of which worked. So I started trying to put a custom recovery on the phone, this was by far the hardest part, I tried and scoured the internet for 3 days, I swear to god I read every article and tried every method out there....the new ATT LG G2's however have a lock on the recovery to prevent people from doing this, I found it strange that none of these articles written based on 4.4.2 thought to mention that an exploit has not yet been found. Finally I ran across an article where I learned of this and was told to downgrade, so I downloaded SuperSport & big fau LG G2 D800 Flash stock. Thinking that this rom was going to unlock the recovery because it said it would, I ran through the process.
This however, was not the case and it didn't help, the whole time I was convinced that this had unlocked my recovery, I continued to try every tutorial on installing a recovery onto this device, the AT&T LG G2 kitkat 4.4.2 (D80020c), which btw is a week old from the date of this post. I like a lot of other people, will have this phone and be looking to unlock, root, install custom recovery, and install custom rom. For this I would like to figure out a few things and hopefully if y'all help me figure this out, I can include fixes for it in the next article that I write, which will explain how I successfully put a custom rom on my AT&T from start to finish. I will also include in this article what could go wrong and how to fix it, too many articles are written without taking into consideration the possibilities of what could go wrong.
It took me three solid days of scouring the internet to get a custom Rom on my phone, running through problems at every step I still have a few questions. After downgrading from 4.4.2 to 4.2.2 my recovery was broke, thankfully I was able to fix this using flashify in the app store. I then installed Cyanogen Mod 10 (cm-10.2.0-d802.zip). and installed it through recovery, when I rebooted I was presented with a fastboot which would do crap when I would plug the usb into my computer...I never figured out what the problem was for this, but I ended up trying a version of CM 10 which was released for the LG G2 D80010d that I downgraded too, the tethering doesn't work...no big deal, but the problem is when I set WiFi hotspot up and connect, on my computer I get SSL error's, my computer completely refuses to let my connect to facebook or google, saying that the connection is insecure, it won't let me grab any kind of certificate and I can't find a solution online. I have tried rebooting both the computer and phone, I don't get these errors on the WiFi at the gas station.
In the above paragraph, I stated the two problems I couldn't really figure out, I haven't tried to install any other custom roms, but I will try that today, I have to save my bandwidth on my phone so I will walk down to the truck stop and download one, ps I had to flash my phone back to stock about 5 times before I finally figured out I needed to downgrade it, then I had to do it 2 more times.
If y'all take the time to read this and help me, then I will take the time to write a new and working article describing how to do it from start to finish and it will be written with explicit detail on every problem I came across and how I fixed it.
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J0hnC0nn3r said:
Alright, so I was reading through a few more articles and I ran across this link, which will allow you to upgrade back to D80020c, but without loosing the stock recovery. I'm going to have to wait till later today to give it a try though, because the internet at the truck stop is to slow to download something of that size.
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well first I want to clarify you on that week old part especially since we have had kitkat on d800 since about feb 27 in fact if you look at garys thread about kk with custom recovery which is originally from march 6(on 5th we figured out what needed to be done but on 6th they began rolling out) and also if you would have asked for assistance I could have helped to find all needed info on rooting and everything (I just don't spend a lot of time in the dedicated d800 thread) anyways as for 20c I've been on it since root was available(also on first day of release of 20c) and have been running garys rom since it was released and I love it but if you want tethering(I know a way to enable you just need a paid app) and there are already threads on doing things from start to finish http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2633150
Thanks
XxZombiePikachu said:
well first I want to clarify you on that week old part especially since we have had kitkat on d800 since about feb 27 in fact if you look at garys thread about kk with custom recovery which is originally from march 6(on 5th we figured out what needed to be done but on 6th they began rolling out) and also if you would have asked for assistance I could have helped to find all needed info on rooting and everything (I just don't spend a lot of time in the dedicated d800 thread) anyways as for 20c I've been on it since root was available(also on first day of release of 20c) and have been running garys rom since it was released and I love it but if you want tethering(I know a way to enable you just need a paid app) and there are already threads on doing things from start to finish http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2633150
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Sorry, I didn't mean to sound like a ****. I just had a really hard time finding a complete walkthrough on this, I ended up taking bits and pieces from different tutorials and it seemed that most of them only covered one aspect of the process, like recovery, or if they covered the whole walkthrough they would either leave something out or I would recieve errors, such as the loki error, and the original adb not detecting my device. I had to download an adb from an alternative source because the official adb wouldn't detect my device, after trying everything but it didn't bother me because I figured it out and thanks for your response, really appreciated, I will check that out....How many mods have you tried and what features do you like about them? I liked the ideal of the CM 11 for the 4.4.2 because it boasted the porting of pretty much every feature that comes on the LG G2 4.4.2...Like the double tap to unlock and such....I will check out Gary's mod and see what it offers, thanks again
I would just like to start out by saying congrats on getting your device to where you've wanted it - I do agree that the G2 is a special case right now considering the lack of development and spotty information available for development.
With that being said...
There is a really good reason why the site was named XDA-"Developers" and not XDA-"Newbs". The primary focus of these forums is for the purpose of developers engaging one another and sharing their discoveries with the community. There are some really great developers here that take a LOT of their own PERSONAL time to create the stunning softwares, hacks, themes, etc. that often ultimately get freely distributed to the public. Take note that 99% of these threads start off with "Use my software and instructions with NO expectation of support or warranty" or "Flash at your own risk".
These folks give so much to the community and often ask for little or nothing in return. While the information right now is pretty sparse and scattered, do you think you could have achieved what you did without it? The mere fact that you have a custom ROM, root and recovery is a testament to the hard work of the folks here who are giving their own time up in the name of furthering development. Our G2s, while stellar devices, are the outliers in the world right now because they are not in the hands of the masses. How many people have looked at you and asked "is that the new Galaxy??" I believe in time, someone with way more time and Android know-how than I, will deliver something mind-blowing to the XDA community for this device. Just be patient and realize that the majority of Smartphone users right now have a GNote, S4, or HTC something-or-another.
Finally, re-read your post and try to hear the tone you delivered. You sound upset that the XDA community hasn't delivered you an easy root/recovery package on a silver platter with all the trimmings. Again - this forum is for developers. What they choose to share with the rest of us as non-developers is totally up to them. They also tend to share more when the support they receive is positive. Long rants about your disappointment in the community over how you had a hard time getting what you wanted on your device - well you catch more flies with honey...
Cliffs notes? Hug a developer, and say thank you for what you've managed to accomplish with your device. Without the info posted around here, we'd all be living with stock ROMs and unrooted, bland G2s. If you are unhappy with your own personal experiences with getting to where you are right now... Well, you obviously know where the "new post" button is. Become a contributor, tell us how YOU did it and give back to the community. If you only rant about your disappointments, then you aren't really making anything better for anyone around here - in fact it only serves to clutter up an already fragmented knowledge base.
From one long winded poster to another - good luck in your ventures with the G2. It has served me well so far and I believe it will continue to do so for quite a while.
Regards.
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tethering
If tethering is all you wanted. I would have done it the easy way. You can unlock WiFi tether by trying to turn it on, then when it fails use sqlite editor from the market to go in and change the provisioning status to 0 in the database file. Sqlite costs 2 bucks, it would be worth that to not have to go through all that. I never thought I would own a phone without a custom Rom, but so far I'm still stock on the lg g2 it's that good. Most annoyances can be fixed as long you have root.
Krayziepop said:
I would just like to start out by saying congrats on getting your device to where you've wanted it - I do agree that the G2 is a special case right now considering the lack of development and spotty information available for development.
With that being said...
There is a really good reason why the site was named XDA-"Developers" and not XDA-"Newbs". The primary focus of these forums is for the purpose of developers engaging one another and sharing their discoveries with the community. There are some really great developers here that take a LOT of their own PERSONAL time to create the stunning softwares, hacks, themes, etc. that often ultimately get freely distributed to the public. Take note that 99% of these threads start off with "Use my software and instructions with NO expectation of support or warranty" or "Flash at your own risk".
These folks give so much to the community and often ask for little or nothing in return. While the information right now is pretty sparse and scattered, do you think you could have achieved what you did without it? The mere fact that you have a custom ROM, root and recovery is a testament to the hard work of the folks here who are giving their own time up in the name of furthering development. Our G2s, while stellar devices, are the outliers in the world right now because they are not in the hands of the masses. How many people have looked at you and asked "is that the new Galaxy??" I believe in time, someone with way more time and Android know-how than I, will deliver something mind-blowing to the XDA community for this device. Just be patient and realize that the majority of Smartphone users right now have a GNote, S4, or HTC something-or-another.
Finally, re-read your post and try to hear the tone you delivered. You sound upset that the XDA community hasn't delivered you an easy root/recovery package on a silver platter with all the trimmings. Again - this forum is for developers. What they choose to share with the rest of us as non-developers is totally up to them. They also tend to share more when the support they receive is positive. Long rants about your disappointment in the community over how you had a hard time getting what you wanted on your device - well you catch more flies with honey...
Cliffs notes? Hug a developer, and say thank you for what you've managed to accomplish with your device. Without the info posted around here, we'd all be living with stock ROMs and unrooted, bland G2s. If you are unhappy with your own personal experiences with getting to where you are right now... Well, you obviously know where the "new post" button is. Become a contributor, tell us how YOU did it and give back to the community. If you only rant about your disappointments, then you aren't really making anything better for anyone around here - in fact it only serves to clutter up an already fragmented knowledge base.
From one long winded poster to another - good luck in your ventures with the G2. It has served me well so far and I believe it will continue to do so for quite a while.
Regards.
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Nothing new to add to this but I've never had so much fun reading through a response that utterly fleeced another person for going full on ungrateful douche. Kudos sir. Lol
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For me this was the easiest phone to root and flash recovery. Used ioroot for root and freegee to install custom recovery. That's when I was using jelly bean now I'm on stock kit Kat
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