I've done my share of reading on how to setup Android on the Samsung Focus. I think it's something that has solid market interest. But, from what I've gathered, most developers of custom Android ROM's stray away from the Focus because the processor architechture is "different" than every other Android device on the market; that a large majority of ROM developers don't bother compiling Android from source, and instead rely heavily on official ROM's. While the latter two out of those three statements may hold some truth, I believe the first statement does not.
The Samsung Focus, according to GSMArena, uses a Scorpion processor (Clocked at 1 Ghz), an Adreno 200 GPU for graphics, and a Qualcomm QSD8250 Snapdragon chipset. And yet, the HTC Desire seems to use a Scorpion processor (Also clocked at 1 GHz), an Adreno 200 GPU for graphics, and a Qualcomm QSD8250 Snapdragon Chipset.
Now, unless there's a misprint, I think there's a strong possibility we could use the HTC Desire ROM on the Samsung Focus.
As an app developer for Android, Windows Phone, and iOS devices (iOS being a la HTML5), with only a couple years of reverse engineering on Windows, my experience with low-level mobile device mechanics is minimal. On PC machines, I have worked with the Windows driver development kit, the PE file format, Windows API, and x86 assembly for the previously mentioned field. But, at the end of the day, the most experience I have dealing with custom ROM loading is using entirely prebuilt tools. This includes using a pre-compiled, ready-to-go rooting tool, ClockworkMod, etc. But, I'm still willing to help in any way possible.
I have a Samsung Focus running the official build of Mango from Microsoft. It's currently my primary mobile phone, but I'm willing to use it for bug-testing a custom Android ROM.
If the technical specifications page was wrong, or I was misunderstood in the reasons for not porting Android to the Focus, please let me know. This is something I've wanted to do for a while, and I think could greatly benefit many other Windows Phone users. The ability to dual-boot Android and Windows Phone, on an extremely powerful mobile device, I think is just too great of an opportunity for any one of us to pass up.
EDIT: Here's to getting the ball rolling:
As I've seen in another thread here, people have installed ROM's other than the stock on the Focus. Now, in that scenario, they used the Samsung Omnia ROM (Windows Mobile 6.5?), which, obviously didn't work. But, would we be able to push an HTC Desire ROM through this way? Could anyone confirm this?
Don't anyone get ahead of themselves and try anything yet, but, just some ideas. Here's a link to the tools you might use to flash on the Samsung Focus.
Again, if you decide to go ahead and try messing with your phone, no one here is at fault. I'm just trying to lay the groundwork that will hopefully get Android on the Focus.
EDIT 2: Sorry if anything of this sounds really dumb or nonsensical. I'm tired after a long day of training for work. I'll check back here later tomorrow.
I have a Samsung focus and will be very happy to see this happen.
Good luck with this, but you're going to need to get past the bootloader first. Unlike WP7 phones from HTC, I believe the Samsung phones (Focus and Omnia 7) ship with locked SPLs that will only load officially-signed ROMs.
GoodDayToDie said:
Good luck with this, but you're going to need to get past the bootloader first. Unlike WP7 phones from HTC, I believe the Samsung phones (Focus and Omnia 7) ship with locked SPLs that will only load officially-signed ROMs.
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Was the Mango beta for developers "officially-signed"? As a registered WP dev, I was able to load the Mango beta on my phone. With that fact in mind, it definitely can't be Samsung signing the ROM's, if anyone.
Yes, of course the official Microsoft Windows Phone developer beta distributed from the Microsoft download site had Microsoft's digital signature on it.
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Yes, of course the official Microsoft Windows Phone developer beta distributed from the Microsoft download site had Microsoft's digital signature on it.
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I guess that's just wishful thinking that they wouldn't sign unfinished releases. The next hope I assume would be either a hardware hack or finding a bug in the loader itself. Or would it be possible to write something to unload WP7 from memory, and load Android into memory?
Well, if the right people spend enough time looking, almost every bootloader has been broken open at some point. That's true even on consoles, which both have the space and power to spare for very good hardware, and have an extremely strong motive to make the security good. The catch is getting the right people interested in the project.
Or you could vote with your wallet, and support companies that provide unlocked and hacker-friendly hardware. On WP7, at least until Mango, that company was HTC. Now, I'm thinking my next phone may well be an LG (built-in registry editing!) although there are points in Samsung's favor too. Also, it remains to be seen what can be done with Nokia phones.
android on the focus
i would love to see this happen
the rom would need the engineering key for the spl to allow it to load
there's more to this than it has the same processor, the linux kernel would need all the modules for all of the hardware.
good luck, but, without the reverse engineering tool, you can't get far.
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Well, if the right people spend enough time looking, almost every bootloader has been broken open at some point. That's true even on consoles, which both have the space and power to spare for very good hardware, and have an extremely strong motive to make the security good. The catch is getting the right people interested in the project.
Or you could vote with your wallet, and support companies that provide unlocked and hacker-friendly hardware. On WP7, at least until Mango, that company was HTC. Now, I'm thinking my next phone may well be an LG (built-in registry editing!) although there are points in Samsung's favor too. Also, it remains to be seen what can be done with Nokia phones.
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that's the thing though, microsoft mandates that the phones be locked.
Hmmm, you saw that:
http://pocketnow.com/smartphone-news/htc-hd7-gets-android-via-cooked-chinese-rom-video
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So does anyone have any idea what Viewsonic is doing? Currently we have 3588 as the latest, with a temporary release of 4349. Are they working on another release? Could it be GB or HC? I like the custom roms we get, but really the the feel of a well working stock. The new HC ROM is really cool, but no Netflix from what i have read.
well...from what I've read, the netflix issue is exactly that, a netflix issue. They've released versions for specific devices. some XDA devs have found workarounds, fixes, or builds that will enable it to work on certain roms. There's nothing that VS can do about getting Netflix to work on the G-Tablet.
As for VS updates and involvement...who knows? they've been quite vacant for quite some time. A grassroots effort pressured them to release 4349, then they pulled it, but the pressure was not kept up. Maybe they are working on something...but it would be nice if they told us what it was, huh?
I wouldn't get my hopes up for a HC release. GB might be a possibility, but my guess is they're just working out the bugs in 4349 and will hopefully release that soon and then they'll be done with it. The tablet didn't sell well, I can't see them pouring any more resources into it.
The tablet didn't sell well
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It didn't? Wasn't it the top seller on Amazon.com for a bit? I don't remember the Adam being able to brag about that...and they are rumored to be working on an official GB release, using essentially the SAME hardware that we use.
I've often said that it's sites like XDA that have made the manufacturers more lax in their support. Viewsonic never claimed that their out of the box firmware was spectacular. Devs here started messing with it and came up with usable Roms. VS was beaten by "amateurs." Now, our devs have figured out how to directly port Adam Roms to the G-Tablet. VS just needed to release a 1.2 bootloader so that it was possible for the devs to port them. They did this, then pulled it 24 hours later, AFTER the devs had it to work with. If Adam developers actually do release an official GB Rom (WITH video drivers from NVidea) then they, combined with the amateur G-Tab developers have done Viewsonics work FOR them...had nobody messed with the stock firmware, then VS would be under WAY more pressure to fix what is broken. as it is, amateurs are doing the work, for free...
SO....exactly why would VS spend time (more importantly MONEY) wokring on a project that has been taken over by amateur developers?
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It didn't? Wasn't it the top seller on Amazon.com for a bit?
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I'm not sure, but I don't doubt it. I also don't doubt that most of those sales were when the device was on clearance. That's what companies do when a product has failed.
Viewsonic, as far as I know, has never promised a GB or HC upgrade. I wasn't expecting one when I bought the tablet on Woot and nobody else should have either. I'll be happy if it happens, but I'm not expecting anything.
It may have been a crumb, but the 1.2 bl leak enabled our current version of HC... its only the lack of a .36 dev (from my understanding) that hinders further progress.
BTW, I got mine when it was still $408 shipped from Sears! YIKES!
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So does anyone have any idea what Viewsonic is doing?
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They're moving on with their next product(s), and have put this tablet out of their minds. It got some buzz when firesaled under $300 and with some xda love, but clearly it's not a tablet that competes in any way with current tablets (other than having a tegra2 cpu.)
Hope for something good from the devs working off Adam or other "sister" tablets, because you're unlikely to see anything from VS.
NVidia has committed to yearly upgrades of the Tegra line. I don't recall when the Tegra2 was first released, but it has to be close to a year ago.
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I am sure that they are now working feverishly on the Kal-El chip. If nVidia puts minimal support towards the Tegra2, ViewSonic is at their mercy.
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It didn't? Wasn't it the top seller on Amazon.com for a bit? I don't remember the Adam being able to brag about that...and they are rumored to be working on an official GB release, using essentially the SAME hardware that we use.
I've often said that it's sites like XDA that have made the manufacturers more lax in their support. Viewsonic never claimed that their out of the box firmware was spectacular. Devs here started messing with it and came up with usable Roms. VS was beaten by "amateurs." Now, our devs have figured out how to directly port Adam Roms to the G-Tablet. VS just needed to release a 1.2 bootloader so that it was possible for the devs to port them. They did this, then pulled it 24 hours later, AFTER the devs had it to work with. If Adam developers actually do release an official GB Rom (WITH video drivers from NVidea) then they, combined with the amateur G-Tab developers have done Viewsonics work FOR them...had nobody messed with the stock firmware, then VS would be under WAY more pressure to fix what is broken. as it is, amateurs are doing the work, for free...
SO....exactly why would VS spend time (more importantly MONEY) wokring on a project that has been taken over by amateur developers?
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I agree that they profit quite a bit from site like XDA,
in regard of the 1.2 bootloader we had it since February actually when Robeet found the leaked update but developper didn't know then that it was compatible with other brand of rom, they actually taught it was locked... but this doesn't change the fact that VS is doing nothing...
You read the thread title correctly.
After the huge firesale that went down this weekend, some videos started popping up online.
Apparently, Qualcomm was using blank HP Touchpads to do hardware tests for an upcoming HTC Tablet, or so the story goes. Bottom line however, is that Qualcomm Innovations (I believe that is the dev groups name) produced a functional android port.
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?t=3327&page=6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTLZHH50V7A
While a few of these have made it into the wild, and even wound up on ebay, one or two have scattered to the wind in the US. One was lucky enough to fall into the hands of a guy in Texas, who is willing to upload an image of the build soon.
In short: Android doesn't need to be ported. Qualcomm already did that part for us. I for one, and looking forward to getting 2.2.1 running dualboot somehow in the coming weeks.
edit: This is a different video from someone else who obtained this build.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmpmlOpvoC0&feature=related
Notice the Qualcomm logo at the start.
Funny thing is, it's on ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-TouchPad...=US_Tablets&hash=item35b4ae3f7f#ht_500wt_1156
Not sure if it's the same one.
(I just also learned that the video is fake)
That's just too convenient.
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Funny thing is, it's on ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-TouchPad...=US_Tablets&hash=item35b4ae3f7f#ht_500wt_1156
Not sure if it's the same one.
(I just also learned that the video is fake)
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*sigh*
It was a different video that was faked, by some douche named AndroidGuy21 or something similar.
However, two other separate videos have been uploaded. They are NOT for Android 2.3, but Android 2.2.1
In addition the unit on ebay might've been the same one from one of the earlier video owners, but not the guy in Texas who's offering to image his for the greater good. In either case, we've already confirmed that there are at least 2 of these out there in the wild, so I wouldn't be surprised if there were a couple more at least.
Post over at rootzwiki about the Qualcomm Dragonboard they have android builds for:
[email protected] said:
Hey guys, are you aware of the Qualcomm dragonboard? It's a development board like the beagleboard/pandaboard, but for the Qualcom APQ8060 (like the touchpad has) instead. Apparently Qualcomm provides android for it.
http://www.thinq.co.uk/2011/5/31/han...board-dev-kit/
http://armdevices.net/2011/06/08/qua...lopment-board/
I know from experience that people have taken development board versions of android and ported it to corresponding devices. Eg, witstech based android for the A81 off of the beagleboard code.
Attachment 2127
Also, qualcomm is selling a reference/devoper phone/mid with android on it called the Snapdragon MDP 8660"
http://developer.qualcomm.com/develo...on-mdp-msm8660
http://www.bsquare.com/snapdragon-mo...-platform.aspx (yes, it is $1,350; it's for developers)
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...agon_mdp&num=1
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the dump is posted!
The Touchpad Dump is here:
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?t=3692
so probably the step is to convert dump into flashable image => flash...
huge HUGE HUGE STEP
I hate shaky youtube videos - they leave so much open for criticism. So Blair Witch style.
But, if this is true DAMN! Funny thing is that I have a brand new unopened 32GB Touchpad from Best Buy sitting right here. Could I be so lucky?
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so probably the step is to convert dump into flashable image => flash...
huge HUGE HUGE STEP
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There is a post here already in this fourm with images... IF someone can make this flashable would be nice
It's going for 760 right now... way too much for this device though. :-( i already bought mine, now waiting for Android!
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It's going for 760 right now... way too much for this device though. :-( i already bought mine, now waiting for Android!
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Well I won't be surprised if it goes over $1,000 USD There still is plenty of time left in the auction and most of the bidding in a ebay auction goes on at the end.
It is true they now have the full system dump over at Rootz Wiki
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its just froyo though, right?
I wonder why didn't qualcomm didn't test out Honeycomb..
A couple comments:
People seem eager to jump aboard this Android build, but we still haven't answered some important questions. If Qualcomm was using the Touchpad to test an upcoming HTC tablet, then they might not have bothered getting all the hardware components to work. Have people even asked some basic questions, like whether the camera works? Or whether it's able to connect to wireless networks? Or whether you can use multitouch gestures? Or any of those kind of things? Plus, is it possible the Touchpad hardware was altered in some ways? I mean, maybe they somehow managed to cram some different components into the device? Given this was obviously a product of the Qualcomm Labs, who knows how it might have been modified? Before I even think about flashing my tablet with this build, I want to make sure that knowledgeable people have determined that it is stable. Right now, this whole thing seems very strange, and I think we're setting ourselves up for disappointment.
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A couple comments:
People seem eager to jump aboard this Android build, but we still haven't answered some important questions. If Qualcomm was using the Touchpad to test an upcoming HTC tablet, then they might not have bothered getting all the hardware components to work. Have people even asked some basic questions, like whether the camera works? Or whether it's able to connect to wireless networks? Or whether you can use multitouch gestures? Or any of those kind of things? Plus, is it possible the Touchpad hardware was altered in some ways? I mean, maybe they somehow managed to cram some different components into the device? Given this was obviously a product of the Qualcomm Labs, who knows how it might have been modified? Before I even think about flashing my tablet with this build, I want to make sure that knowledgeable people have determined that it is stable. Right now, this whole thing seems very strange, and I think we're setting ourselves up for disappointment.
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You have absolutely no reason to think about flashing a dump... A lot still needs to happen.
I think the basic question for now is, how does everyone like WebOS 3.0+? Let the devs do what they do. All the speculation, misinformation, and general cramming of the developers thread can not be helping move things a long.
kennyminot said:
A couple comments:
People seem eager to jump aboard this Android build, but we still haven't answered some important questions. If Qualcomm was using the Touchpad to test an upcoming HTC tablet, then they might not have bothered getting all the hardware components to work. Have people even asked some basic questions, like whether the camera works? Or whether it's able to connect to wireless networks? Or whether you can use multitouch gestures? Or any of those kind of things? Plus, is it possible the Touchpad hardware was altered in some ways? I mean, maybe they somehow managed to cram some different components into the device? Given this was obviously a product of the Qualcomm Labs, who knows how it might have been modified? Before I even think about flashing my tablet with this build, I want to make sure that knowledgeable people have determined that it is stable. Right now, this whole thing seems very strange, and I think we're setting ourselves up for disappointment.
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Considering it's nothing more than a system dump, you won't be flashing anything for quite some time.
It's one thing to install Android on a clean slate but quite another to port from WebOS to Android anyway.
Everything runs perfectly, camera/sound/wifi/bluetooth....check out the various youtube vids and you will see that qualcomm developed drivers for all parts of the touchpad's android (froyo) version.
The contract for my HTC Desire is about to run out and I'm looking for a new phone but am really confused about which I should get. I primarily use my phone for gaming and the only thing that annoys me about my current phone is the lack of storage space for apps (even when I'm using Cyanogen).
I really like Android but I'm also quite interested in Windows phones because of the XBL integration. I'm just a bit concerned about the lack of games/apps on Windows phones at the minute. Though I suppose that will improve. When I got my Desire a couple of years ago the Android market was pretty sparse too.
I've been looking at the Galaxy S2 as a couple of people at work have got it but it looks enormous which puts me off. I think I'd quite like something around the same size as my Desire but if the S2 is really that much better for gaming I wouldn't mind going for that anyway. I imagine I'd get used to the size. I've also thought about the LG Optimus phones. Maybe the 2X?
Any thoughts?
ImBarryScot said:
The contract for my HTC Desire is about to run out and I'm looking for a new phone but am really confused about which I should get. I primarily use my phone for gaming and the only thing that annoys me about my current phone is the lack of storage space for apps (even when I'm using Cyanogen).
I really like Android but I'm also quite interested in Windows phones because of the XBL integration. I'm just a bit concerned about the lack of games/apps on Windows phones at the minute. Though I suppose that will improve. When I got my Desire a couple of years ago the Android market was pretty sparse too.
I've been looking at the Galaxy S2 as a couple of people at work have got it but it looks enormous which puts me off. I think I'd quite like something around the same size as my Desire but if the S2 is really that much better for gaming I wouldn't mind going for that anyway. I imagine I'd get used to the size. I've also thought about the LG Optimus phones. Maybe the 2X?
Any thoughts?
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Depending on your carrier, I'd suggest going with a Windows Phone 7 model, the Samsung Focus, to be specific. My opinion is WP7 has better games than Android. It may not have as many, but what it has is certainly excellent. But it is still growing too. So the number of games and apps with improve over time. It also has superior apps compared to Android, with the exception being the XDA app. The Android version is superior to the WP7 version. There's a lot to love about WP7. Mainly it has superior integration of social features, messaging and communications. It is by far more convenient than Android and much more reliable. It is smoother, cleaner. faster. It doesn't require as much power to run than Android does for being low-resource hungry.
One superb feature of WP7 hardware is the GSM versions are world phones. If you have a carrier branded WP7 phone sim-unlocked, you can use it on any GSM network, 3G data as well as regular cell service. But there are unlocked versions available at reasonable prices. The Focus is available online for as little as $150 brand new. Best Buy online has them for $250.
But if you don't mind waiting a few weeks, you will be able to choose from the second generation of WP7 phones soon to be released. The Samsung Focus S will be basically the same as an SGS2 but loaded with WP7 and better specs. It's the one I'm eagerly awaiting. It will have the glorious SAMOLED+ tech in a 4.3" size.
If it is primarily gaming then I suggest an iPhone 4s.
Check on each of the OS's app stores for what games they have.
Then just go for the phone which has the most games you want.
Simple.
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If it is primarily gaming then I suggest an iPhone 4s.
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Factoring in the OP's wish for a smaller screen and i'd agree. The only Android i could suggest with a smallish screen is the Nexus S. These can be had at good prices now.
Sony Ericsson Xperia PLAY?
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I do like the look of the Xperia Play, actually. But part of me wonders if I'd be shooting myself in the foot getting that instead of one of the more powerful Androids when I'll be tied into a contract for 18-24 months.
I'm not fussed about getting an iPhone. My wife has one and I've got an iPad which I use for playing iOS games.
I do find the Windows phones intriguing but I'm scared about committing to a platform I'm not sure is going to take off properly. Android seems to be on the up and up at the minute and I just can't see Windows phones catching up. But I have to admit, I am tempted...
To be honest, Android has most of the games the iOS has, and some more, but not as much as the iOS. So if you have the iOS, it makes no sense to me for getting android, if you already have a platform with more and the same.
So why not try WP7 then?
Android
If you dont wan't an iPhone. Get an Android phone, check out maybe a SGSII? or Nexus S?
So I have a phone upgrade coming in june.. and I have been tossing the idea of switching over to wp7..
Coming from someone who was an avid modder/rom flasher, what are some things to know about wp7?
derik123derik123 said:
So I have a phone upgrade coming in june.. and I have been tossing the idea of switching over to wp7..
Coming from someone who was an avid modder/rom flasher, what are some things to know about wp7?
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I cam from heavily tweaking Windows Mobile to Windows Phone 7. You can't do much if any customizing. Just some color choices and ring tones.
But so much just works, that you stop missing it after a while.
I'm sure you have also read that there are some things you can't do as far as apps. Background access to GPS, BlueTooth File Transfer, and some other things.
I would recommend trying it for atleast a week. Most cell companies have an exchange policy.
If you find that you can't live with the need to fix or tweak, you can always exchange it for something else.
I found it quite refreshing to have a phone that just worked and did what I wanted without tweaking or rom flashing.
That said, if you want to flash a ROM (or tweak the stock one), there are actually some cool features available. Most are really just filling gaps in the feature list of the OS, though - things like custom themes and such. Some are important, though, like SMS backup.
Well, i´ll try to put my toughts in a parcial way...
First of all, i´ve been always merging between iOS and Android,like them a lot, lived with it for years, all kinda of mobiles, jailbreakin, rootin,flashing custom, downgradin, even opening to change hardware parts...
Last year i had Motorola Atrix 4G and iPhone 4S, great ones, but without the opportunity to live with an oficial ICS ROm, i sold Atrix and in this January without jailbreak and tired of iOS, sold iPhone 4s....
Now, i had the opportunity and bought and Samsung Omnia 7...remember when you´re a kid and saw that toy in TV or Movie and when you got it sounds just more perfect then you could thought? When sounds that you will pass your entire life with it spending all minute just adoring it?
Well, i felt just like when started to use Omnia 7 with Mango 7.5, i really felt happier each time i scrolled my finger, the system is so fluid, so fast, so responsive, its beautiful, its simple, modern and intuitive, you dont have to dig its already there in your face.
For the first time i felt that my years with Droid and iPhones passed...Microsoft has now conquered me and surprised with an inteligent innovation, they just create something unique, there is nothing in their system that remebers Android or iOS, they have their identity.
I think that if you like the new, the unique and different, Windows Phone 7 it´s a new and beuatiful world to explore all time.
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Well, i felt just like when started to use Omnia 7 with Mango 7.5, i really felt happier each time i scrolled my finger, the system is so fluid, so fast, so responsive, its beautiful, its simple, modern and intuitive, you dont have to dig its already there in your face.
For the first time i felt that my years with Droid and iPhones passed...Microsoft has now conquered me and surprised with an inteligent innovation, they just create something unique, there is nothing in their system that remebers Android or iOS, they have their identity.
I think that if you like the new, the unique and different, Windows Phone 7 it´s a new and beuatiful world to explore all time.
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You pretty much covered my exact feelings with WP 7.5! I just came from an HTC Sensation 4g running ICS AOSP and I couldn't be more happy. I love the approach MS has taken with this OS's platform and how everything is laid out.
Only thing I'm missing from Android/HTC that my new Nokia Lumia doesn't have is WiFi tethering / Hot Spot. <-- Something I overhead might be included in a future Mango (or is it Apollo?) update?
Not sure why I didn't jump on the WP 7+ bandwagon sooner than later, but I sure am glad to be on it now.
Now trying to convince my fiance for ditching her EVO 4G on Sprint for a Windows flavored phone; she is holding out for the iPhone 5 coming this summer.
Your Lumia doesn't have the Internet Sharing feature enabled? Weird - that came out with Mango 7720, many months ago. It's been available since before the Lumias went on sale!
It does require that the OEM (Nokia, in your case) do a little work to enable it, and by default it also requires that your carrier support it. However, given the focus Nokia has on WP7 I'd be shocked if they didn't include the drivers, and TMoUS does, AFAIK, allow tethering.
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Your Lumia doesn't have the Internet Sharing feature enabled? Weird - that came out with Mango 7720, many months ago. It's been available since before the Lumias went on sale!
It does require that the OEM (Nokia, in your case) do a little work to enable it, and by default it also requires that your carrier support it. However, given the focus Nokia has on WP7 I'd be shocked if they didn't include the drivers, and TMoUS does, AFAIK, allow tethering.
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Nope no WiFi hotspot support for the 710 yet...
http://www.google.com/gwt/x?client=...ums.techarena.in/portable-devices/1450361.htm
Lame!
If it's just the carrier check, we know how to get around that in the OS. Unfortunately, it requires registry access which is currently unavailable on Nokia WP7. If it's the drivers, though, there's nothing we can do until they come out with a firmware update.
im very interest with this one. is it really worth the transfer from android to w7? hmm..
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Lame!
If it's just the carrier check, we know how to get around that in the OS. Unfortunately, it requires registry access which is currently unavailable on Nokia WP7. If it's the drivers, though, there's nothing we can do until they come out with a firmware update.
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Yup lame is right!
This is what I'm missing on my TMOUSA 710 unit
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More info here: http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_710-review-708p7.php
derik123derik123 said:
So I have a phone upgrade coming in june.. and I have been tossing the idea of switching over to wp7..
Coming from someone who was an avid modder/rom flasher, what are some things to know about wp7?
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From windows mobile 6 to 6.5 to Android 2.2 to Android 2.3 to Android Customs to WP7.5 : That is what I've done in last 7 years.
I've spent hours, days and even months tinkering my phone.
Then comes WP7.5 says "Hey you! Phone is a communication device with people you love and care about. Communication device to connect. Not tinker all day all night. Try me!"
I had never known that how much communication was being ruined due to trying to always find the best rom, the best theme, the best feature, the best battery, the best task killer. Now I do.
"Windows Phone just works!"
drupad2drupad said:
From windows mobile 6 to 6.5 to Android 2.2 to Android 2.3 to Android Customs to WP7.5 : That is what I've done in last 7 years.
I've spent hours, days and even months tinkering my phone.
Then comes WP7.5 says "Hey you! Phone is a communication device with people you love and care about. Communication device to connect. Not tinker all day all night. Try me!"
I had never known that how much communication was being ruined due to trying to always find the best rom, the best theme, the best feature, the best battery, the best task killer. Now I do.
"Windows Phone just works!"
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Amen to that! You speak the word.... Only thing missing is WiFi hotpot and maybe WiFi calling.
I'm happy with wp so far, just recently switched over from android.
Thanks for all your replies guys. I guess what it really comes down to
If you want to tinker with your phone
Go Android
(i could say iPhone here as well because cydia has a lot of mods and what not)
If you want it to just work
Go WP7(Even iPhone?)
Those are my thoughts.
derik123derik123 said:
Thanks for all your replies guys. I guess what it really comes down to
If you want to tinker with your phone
Go Android
(i could say iPhone here as well because cydia has a lot of mods and what not)
If you want it to just work
Go WP7(Even iPhone?)
Those are my thoughts.
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You might look into which Windows Phones have custom ROMs on XDA. I'm loving the new DFT Freedom ROM on my Samsung Focus!
I am big fan of Nokia, but I was pretty disappointed when they decided to go with Windows and not with Android. According to some rumors Google could allow more Nexus models, so I`ve decided to make my vision of Nokia`s flagship phone running on Android, called Lumia Nexus. This phone should be equipped with 2 GHz quad-core processor; 5" HD display; 2 GB RAM and with 32 GB of storage.
Why Nexus? With this phone people should experience Lumia Nexus as superb Android device from Nokia with regular software updates from Google. With this phone Nokia should present its full engineering potential that is able to bring various high quality Android phones in future. Also, this phone should be great machine for advanced developers that can smoothly handle various application requests.
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I actually like it.
The Lumia phones have a great design, and a pure Android experience is a nice thing.
I like it. I like it a lot.
looks awesome, i would totally buy the phone.
I like your effort, but you could hardly call that your own vision.
You literally took that image of the Lumia 920, made the phone standing upright red instead of yellow, removed the front speaker, camera, and Nokia logo from it, replaced the image of WP8 and the MS softkeys with an image of Android with the Android keys, and then added white stripes to it and the red Lumia 920 next to it.
That's not a concept or your own vision, that's photoshopping an image of the Lumia 920 to look like it's running Android and then tweaking other bits of the picture like the color of the phone. If you're going to put an effort into making concepts, make actual concepts and come up with your own designs for phones. You did the same thing with an HTC concept-you just tweaked an image of the One X.
But still looks good as hell, The Janitor Mop
Thanx guys for nice words.
@The Janitor Mop.
If you look closer you will see that this phone is called Lumia Nexus, so that phone is part of Lumia family that have unique styling! IMO Nokia should go with Lumia styling with Windows (and I hope sometime in future) with Android phones.
This render is free, I dont sell this. So, again, I dont see point of your post. I want to show my thoughts on Nokia situation, and that is what they shoud make - ultimate Android phone.
Leave it be, if you like the photo fine. If you do not like fine also...but posting saying what you think the OP did to the picture is not the idea, the idea is the concept of the phone if it had this options.
Thank you.
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Not sure about the decor, I think I would prefer it a plain color like the lumias we have now.
That thing looks SWEET! I'm really digging it, I would definitely buy the phone. Considering I really liked how the 900 felt in my hand, although not a big fan of WP, Android based would seal the deal!
Milanno said:
Thanx guys for nice words.
@The Janitor Mop.
If you look closer you will see that this phone is called Lumia Nexus, so that phone is part of Lumia family that have unique styling! IMO Nokia should go with Lumia styling with Windows (and I hope sometime in future) with Android phones.
This render is free, I dont sell this. So, again, I dont see point of your post. I want to show my thoughts on Nokia situation, and that is what they shoud make - ultimate Android phone.
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If you wanted to create your own concept of an Android phone in the Lumia family, then you should have created your own design that is similar to Lumia Windows Phone devices. Not literally taken a picture of the Lumia 920 and changed a few minor things. I know you aren't profiting from this, but it is disingenuous to pass this off as your own design-you modified a picture of the 920.
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Leave it be, if you like the photo fine. If you do not like fine also...but posting saying what you think the OP did to the picture is not the idea, the idea is the concept of the phone if it had this options.
Thank you.
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I don't think he modified that picture, I know he did. If you actually look at both pictures it is beyond blindingly clear that he modified the one I posted. That's not a guess, it's a fact. If he wanted to share his concept that the Lumia 920 would make a cool Android Nexus device, he should have said that. Instead he implies that he created this design, which is completely disingenuous regardless of whether he's profiting from it or not.
Basically, OP, I have nothing wrong with the fact that you think the 920 would make a cool Android device. Just make a note of that in your post-“Concept for a Lumia Nexus, based on the 920". Because as of now, your post implies that you created that design. People think they are looking at an original design when they're really looking at a Lumia 920, which you didn't create. It is key in the world of art and design to be honest about when you're borrowing other people's work.
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I am glad you think all that....But this info was not for me...the information being passed.
But no worries...Thread closed.
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