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Android 3.0 Gingerbread
# Minimum hardware requirements for Android 3.0 devices are: 1GHZ CPU, 512MB or RAM, displays from 3.5” and higher.
# New 1280×760 resolution available for the devices with displays of 4” and higher.
# Completely revamped user interface.
We have all those
1ghz Hummingbird
512mb ram
4" SAMOLED
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Knowing samsung ... my guess is they will never build a release with it. On to the next piece of hardware.
I hope they prove me wrong.
Regardless if Samsung releases a 3.0 ROM for us or not, it will be ported.
I want Froyo when it comes available, because I already know it rocks.
As for Gingerbread, nobody knows if it is a turd or not, so I am not about to get all worked up about am OS that won't be available for my device until late next year, if ever...
However... it would be nice to know there will be long-term support and development for this device. It is quite an expensive piece of equipment to hit end-of-life a year later.
joeybear23 said:
I want Froyo when it comes available, because I already know it rocks.
As for Gingerbread, nobody knows if it is a turd or not, so I am not about to get all worked up about am OS that won't be available for my device until late next year, if ever...
However... it would be nice to know there will be long-term support and development for this device. It is quite an expensive piece of equipment to hit end-of-life a year later.
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I was lucky to snag it for $350 off-contract, new in box
That way I'm saving a virgin family line, to get the next best thing, cheap
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I was lucky to snag it for $350 off-contract, new in box
That way I'm saving a virgin family line, to get the next best thing, cheap
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I got mine for $150... but with the 2 year contract.
However, since AT&T is the only provider that has good coverage at my house, i am locked into them regardless of whether I have a contract or not.
2 year extension only means I have to wait 18 months to get the latest-greatest phone... I'm not complaining.
I could've gotten the Captivate for free, or the Iphone 4 for $199 still keeping my unlimited plan.
But I just bought the Captivate $350, still have my plan. Just waiting for the latest thing lol
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I could've gotten the Captivate for free, or the Iphone 4 for $199 still keeping my unlimited plan.
But I just bought the Captivate $350, still have my plan. Just waiting for the latest thing lol
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Did they tell you you could not keep your unlimited plan?
My wife ha sthe iPhone4, and I have my captivate, and we both still have unlimited data...
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Did they tell you you could not keep your unlimited plan?
My wife ha sthe iPhone4, and I have my captivate, and we both still have unlimited data...
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I had 3 choices
1) Get captivate for free, keep my plan, put 2 year contract on a family line.
2) Get iphone 4, do "cross-upgrade" (put contract on a family line) register micro-sim/imei to me, and keep my plan.
3) Buy either phone off contract
I went with 3, but not "official", I saw some guy on craigslist selling it new in box $350, so I bought it, took my sim out of old Motorola Backflip (CRAP OUT-DATED DEVICE) and placed it in my Captivate.
So I don't know if the phone is "technically" covered by att, but I registered it with samsung.
You didn't buy it from AT&T so they will not cover anything. Not even support if they didn't want to. The latter is not likely as I have purchased 2nd hand devices and they have not refused to provide technical support.
joey - how did you keep unlimited data with two year upgrade? Thanks, NLS
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joey - how did you keep unlimited data with two year upgrade? Thanks, NLS
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Talk to AT&T if you bought the device from them.
I got my Captivate via LetsTalk.com and I was given a checkbox that says "I WANT TO KEEP MY 30$ UNLIMITED PLAN"
If you're still fresh into your new contract you should be able to tell them to switch it to your good ol' unlimited data plan and don't let them tell you the otherwise. Be persistent.
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Regardless if Samsung releases a 3.0 ROM for us or not, it will be ported.
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Ports might not be possible since samsung doesn't release driver source code.
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joey - how did you keep unlimited data with two year upgrade? Thanks, NLS
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I just told them i wanted to keep it.
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I just told them i wanted to keep it.
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same, they asked me if I wanted to make any changes to the account and said, heck no I want my unlimited data since I tether off you guys for free... j/k
But on Gingerbread.. How far along are we actually in development? Are there even any screenshots or videos of it yet? Whats the expected release date?
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... my guess is they will never build a release with it. On to the next piece of hardware.
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You know, I've been worried that this may be a general problem for all smart phones.
There is little, actually negative, incentive for manufactures to upgrade the OS of any phone. They don't charge for the upgrades and new phones are "relatively" cheap.
Additionally, the players in question tend to be hardware manufactures not software manufactures.
I think the deck is stack against those of us that want to see OS upgrades on smart phones.
Just my 2 cents worth, YMMV.
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You know, I've been worried that this may be a general problem for all smart phones.
There is little, actually negative, incentive for manufactures to upgrade the OS of any phone. They don't charge for the upgrades and new phones are "relatively" cheap.
Additionally, the players in question tend to be hardware manufactures not software manufactures.
I think the deck is stack against those of us that want to see OS upgrades on smart phones.
Just my 2 cents worth, YMMV.
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Yep, I'm going to agree here. A wireless company would need to invest lots of money for a team to test and prepare a new OS after it's received from the manufacturer to be sent out to a device. Or they could just spend that money on checking a new incoming phone which would already be prepped for the new OS.
In today's world they know a majority of us are going to be drooling over the next big thing in a year. Why give you something for free when they can get you to buy it?
The only phone to really break this mold is the iPhone. Only because it's one piece of hardware controlled by the manufacturer. They only have to worry about the OS working with their own hardware. Where Gingerbread will need to be adapted to every manufacturer that wants to use it.
If it looks amazing I'll be praying for Samsung and AT&T to step up to the plate for their customers; but I won't be checking BGR expecting anything.
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As for Gingerbread, nobody knows if it is a turd or not, so I am not about to get all worked up about am OS that won't be available for my device until late next year, if ever...
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If it's late next year, we will all be running 3.2 roms be then. Gingerbread is supposedly only 4-6 months away
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But on Gingerbread.. How far along are we actually in development? Are there even any screenshots or videos of it yet? Whats the expected release date?
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I keep hearing that google said late Q4-early Q1.
The way I see it, samsung, htc, moto, nobody cares if you get a higher os. They will make an update due to calender reasons like the 2.1 to 2.2 to get you to buy a device with an old os.
But if the devs can put 2.2 on a g1, which google said couldn't happen, doesn't really matter what hardware we have. It's up to all of us to support the devs to make anything happen.
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i dont think u can beat this deal anywhere. I got one 2 days ago and now thinking about rooting the bloody thing but christ it seems awfully hard to do and then sticking a rom is even harder compared to my old tilt 2!!
wow what a deal... do people really think this phone is worth that price?? i personally think it's better than the atrix (minus the laptop dock)
niksha said:
i dont think u can beat this deal anywhere. I got one 2 days ago and now thinking about rooting the bloody thing but christ it seems awfully hard to do and then sticking a rom is even harder compared to my old tilt 2!!
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It is not as hard as you think, all you need do is read the threads and take your time, I rooted a long time ago when bubby first did the one click, since then he has made it less complicated, the hardest part most are having is making a gold card, just take your time and you will do fine. I am rooted and am running Core Droid Gingerbread rom and have no sign of AT&T left on my phone. It is great, give it a try!!!! You can do it, the only thing holding you back is you!!!
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It is not as hard as you think, all you need do is read the threads and take your time, I rooted a long time ago when bubby first did the one click, since then he has made it less complicated, the hardest part most are having is making a gold card, just take your time and you will do fine. I am rooted and am running Core Droid Gingerbread rom and have no sign of AT&T left on my phone. It is great, give it a try!!!! You can do it, the only thing holding you back is you!!!
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Oh yes you do! You have at&t on the back of the phone
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I got better than that from AT&T directly. Free phone, no shipping, no activation, 2 yr contract extension, early-upgrade. Granted I've been with AT&T since 1999 and I give them a decent chunk of my paycheck every month.
You just have to be patient with them, be willing to stay on hold for a bit, ask for a supervisor, and remember a few key phrases: "Long time customer..." "Pay bills on time..." "Been loyal through Iphoney induced network problems..." "Other carriers offering better equipment, and with contract expiring soon..."
That has always worked for me. The phones aren't always free, but I've always gotten a better deal than the normal upgrade price. At the very least the rebate price without dealing with the rebate. I've even gotten an upgrade price on an equipment replacement without contract extension.
Not sure if there are specific guidelines they use as far as longevity, monthly service charge, etc. You just have to be polite and insistant, and companies will generally give you what you want to keep you as a happy customer, AT&T included.
woww that is a deal and a half))my son just came home from school and he said his buddy told him that more people are bricking their phones when they try rooting... but then what does a kid know)))
They have it marked down to a penny if you buy it online with two year upgrade.
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They have it marked down to a penny if you buy it online with two year upgrade.
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any way to make AT&T match this deal? The wife just paid 99 bucks for hers when I added a line last week.
shoot I'd just pay the restocking fee, and then buy from costco and it would still be cheaper. I am not sure att will match it though. I know you can't buy it out of contract Online. I was looking to see what they would charge maybe get my wife one so she can get away from her captivate.
I got mine free from radio shack and I was expecting to pay For it. Don't know how I get it free though
I got my Inspire from Costco about two weeks ago, and then upgraded one of my kids to one last week as well -- took advantage of that Costco deal! And no, AT&T could care less about price matching.
I rooted both of our phones last night. Read more than I did before I flashed my Tilt 2, but after my kid said just watch the Youtube video, I was ready. LOTS and lots of steps, but his rooted exactly as advertised. I did the same steps to mine, got hung up on the final step (pushing the new ROM back to the phone) but found a post in @bubby's thread about the same issue; I manually copied the image to my SD card and entered the bootloader, and now my Inspire is rooted as well.
Lots of great deals out there, BTW. Look at Cartoys and Radio Shack; the Costco deal ends pretty soon.
i got mine from Costco, i only paid the tax and an upgrade fee which will show up on my att bill. id say i came out on top
I just checked ... price is 1 cent now with a 2 yr extension. May have to go to KC!!
I too got mine from Costco for a penny! :-D According to tracking, I'll have it Wednesday. And then...we root! :-D
On a sidenote... I only agree with one line on here. "However now more then ever who you get on the other end of that line MATTERS." ...Unfortunately, this is true. I am a Level 2 technical support agent for Philips Electronics. If you catch an agent on a bad day, then don't expect much. HOWEVER... I personally try to remain fair... If you call me and ask for support, you BETTER be nice. If you are a jerk, yell, cuss, racist, etc...YOU GET NOTHING!
I deal with all walks of people on a daily basis. Kindness is key. It also helps to know how to speak and speak properly.. "Key phrases" mean nothing to me. But that's just me. It's all about the attitude. If you are nice, I'm willing to GIVE you almost anything. If you are an A$$hole...well...you get the idea.
One final note...It DOES NOT matter what nationality you or the tech support rep are. One of the nicest people I have ever met is this guy that sits beside me at work. He is 100% Irish, and hates the world. But again...if you are nice, he will give you whatever you are asking for.
ogxku5h said:
wow what a deal... do people really think this phone is worth that price?? i personally think it's better than the atrix (minus the laptop dock)
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I have an Atrix, not worth it at all... Even with the Dual Proc and Laptop dock. Call quality sucks, signal sucks and worst of all, it seems like they took someone's custom ROM (Alpha Build) and released it (get Aqua/Robot Voice at times) and instability so they have to make a fix for it and THEN wait for AT&T to release it...
Thanks, but no... not at all worth it.
The Inspire though? Yeah, worth way more. I paid full price for mine (no upgrade available on any of the 5 lines... )
I got my Inspire from Costco for $19.99. It did not take too long either. They also gave me a free car charger, head set, and leather case.
On a side note: I don't like ordering things like phones (Atrix) or laptops(Asus) online because if their is a problem with it takes week to get there and get back to you.
Talderon said:
I paid full price for mine (no upgrade available on any of the 5 lines... )
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How much off contract and from where?
I tried buying it though Costco online but I wont let me keep my grandfathered unlimited data plan. I still cant decide whether to use my upgrade or buy it off contract.
I've been seeing lately that its now $79, and as a CostCo Member, its as low as $50 on a two year contract. Its still a great price.
Staples has it for $50, verified as of yesterday.
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Now that the Nexus is available, I am wondering if it would be worth dumping my DC for the Nexus. I would have to pay the full price for it.
Other than just wanting something new, I am not sure I can justify it. Stock rooted GB seems to be working well on my Charge. The only complaint I have is the lousy radio performance at work which sucks battery down to nothing in a half a day. I am not convinced the Nexus wouldn't do the same thing.
Wondering what others think about making the switch.
I haven't decided yet. I won't until after Christmas but I have two upgrades available on my lines so odds are I'll be picking one up. My charge is running great with infinity though so I'm in no rush.
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I'm eligible for upgrade in June and am probably gonna go for the nexus. I paid full price for my charge and i don't want to do that again so soon.
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91point6 said:
Now that the Nexus is available, I am wondering if it would be worth dumping my DC for the Nexus. I would have to pay the full price for it.
Other than just wanting something new, I am not sure I can justify it. Stock rooted GB seems to be working well on my Charge. The only complaint I have is the lousy radio performance at work which sucks battery down to nothing in a half a day. I am not convinced the Nexus wouldn't do the same thing.
Wondering what others think about making the switch.
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I never understood why people would pay full price for a smartphone regardless of how cool the new technology is. You can buy a pretty nice laptop/desktop or tablet for that price so if your current phone does everything you want, why not wait until you are eligible for an upgrade?
I have a hard time paying the $200-300 for a new phone as part of an upgrade, nevermind $600-700.
That being said, I like everything about the Nexus EXCEPT the fact that you can't expand the memory.
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xceebeex said:
I never understood why people would pay full price for a smartphone regardless of how cool the new technology is. You can buy a pretty nice laptop/desktop or tablet for that price so if your current phone does everything you want, why not wait until you are eligible for an upgrade?
I have a hard time paying the $200-300 for a new phone as part of an upgrade, nevermind $600-700.
That being said, I like everything about the Nexus EXCEPT the fact that you can't expand the memory.
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The only reason i would pay full for the nexus is if i was making serious money with apps and wanted to make sure they were compatible with ICS and 720p.
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xceebeex said:
I never understood why people would pay full price for a smartphone regardless of how cool the new technology is. You can buy a pretty nice laptop/desktop or tablet for that price so if your current phone does everything you want, why not wait until you are eligible for an upgrade?
I have a hard time paying the $200-300 for a new phone as part of an upgrade, nevermind $600-700.
That being said, I like everything about the Nexus EXCEPT the fact that you can't expand the memory.
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Point well taken. That is part of the decision. I might want to buy a tablet for that kind of money. Even if I could sell my Charge on eBay for say, ~$200 would the Nexus be that much cooler than the Charge? Probably not.
We drool for a long time in anticipation of these new devices but when the day comes and the "buy" button is clicked, it is all downhill from there...
I considered it but then thought about what I'd actually be gaining as far as everyday use. Yes, it's more powerful than the charge but not head and shoulders above the latest and greatest. The hardware is just nothing out of this world special. ICS is about all it really has going for it and soon all new phones will have it. Now that most of the kinks with my Charge have been smoothed out I don't see the need to upgrade for a while. I understand the impulse to always get the newest tech though. The thing with Android handsets is that you really don't have to wait around very long for another new and cool phone to come out. Which is a double edged sword because it means your new and cool phone won't be considered new and cool for long. However, it is easy to pick up used android phones a few months after release for fairly cheap. I see multiple Craigslist ads in my area for Charges for $200-$300. I paid $299 when I upgraded! To each his own but I'm waiting.
I'm certainly gonna wait until these phones are out in "the wild" on Verizon's network. I'm not totally convinced that Samsung has the LTE thing figured out. I bought my charge the day they came out and have never been completely happy with call quality or data connectivity. I live smack in the center of a huge 4g area in Los Angeles and everyone on 3G phones are happy as larks.
I'm done being an early adopter and beta tester for Samsung so I'll wait a month or so and read their forums and see who's complaining about what.
Let's see. it's bigger, heavier and slower than my rooted Charge. I don't think so...
Learner156 said:
Let's see. it's bigger, heavier and slower than my rooted Charge. I don't think so...
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Slower? Really?
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The charge is still pretty new to me even tho I had it since launch...I would love to have the nexus but not for 300(I have a line that has an upgrade). I just paid for this phone so ill keep it at least a year..I'm sure by summer there will be some quad core devices out there that will put galaxy nexus to shame
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That being said, I like everything about the Nexus EXCEPT the fact that you can't expand the memory.
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I was sooo excited about a Nexus device coming to Vzn and so let down when I saw someone point out that it didn't have a microSD slot.
This is supposed to show off what an Android Phone "Should Be", but no Android phone should be without a microSD card.
The internal MMC better be MUCH faster than a class 10 microSD. I'm going to wait to see some stats on read/write performance.
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I was sooo excited about a Nexus device coming to Vzn and so let down when I saw someone point out that it didn't have a microSD slot.
This is supposed to show off what an Android Phone "Should Be", but no Android phone should be without a microSD card.
The internal MMC better be MUCH faster than a class 10 microSD. I'm going to wait to see some stats on read/write performance.
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Look at it from Google's perspective. They want you to use their cloud services, and most of what the average user does with their phone can be done from the cloud. By not including an SD card or mass storage drivers, they can force people to use their cloud services. From Google's perspective, this does show off what an Android phone should be.
I use Google's cloud services extensively, and I still don't agree with the decision, but as a businessman, I understand it.
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Let's see. it's bigger, heavier and slower than my rooted Charge. I don't think so...
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It's 7g heavier, and the dimensions are of a negligible difference (<6mm difference in any direction) and it's most certainly not slower either. I'd suggest trolling somewhere else.
I won't be getting a nexus... the combination of having no upgrade yet and me losing interest in it with all the hype and bungled release has led me to the decision to stick with my Charge for now
I'd rather just wait and take my pick of the next Q1/Q2 Samsung or HTC superphones (which I believe will match or beat the nexus spec-wise, the only thing I'll miss will be the unbloated pure Google goodness)
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I'm jumping from my Charge to the Nexus. I got my Charge through the Fascinate issue so I didn't have to use my upgrade. I ordered it yesterday online. I had some corporate discount so it was $250 minus a $100 gift card I had. So I got it for $172. Plus I figure I can sell my Charge for $200, so I came out ahead. I went to the VZW store and played with it. Everything is fast and smooth! Can't wait for it!
Ill be going to the nexus, but only because I happen to need a home phone line. So im getting the $149 AmazonWireless deal, with $100 Amazon gift card for activating with a hotspot, a cost ill cover by selling my Charge - then ill just roll the line over into a Home Phone connect.
I ordered my Nexus this morning. My Charge will be my backup.
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I am. ICS is in a whole different league in my opinion.
Plus it'll be nice to be able to confirm compatibility with the apps I develop.
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I'd have one already if my wife didn't put the axe to it. I need to sell my charge first.
Hello everyone, I'm a longtime Sprint user, and am looking forward to my switch to Verizon very soon! I currently own an EVO 4G LTE, and am taking a look at what phones I should get when I switch companies. The best available phone right now appears to undoubtedly be the SIII.
I have heard that there are some pretty awesome phones on the horizon, and I would love to get them (HTC's apparent phablet, Razr Maxx HD, etc.). However, I really don't think I can wait until November because I can't possibly tolerate Sprint anymore and their ridiculous lack of coverage in my area (they told me the towers are being upgraded for the past 7 months).
So my question is this: is there any way to delay my upgraded phone price so that I can use it once these newer phones are released? In other words, can I use another phone or do something else in order to not use that contract upgrade until November, even if I sign up for their service this week? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Also, if you would just go get the SIII if you were in my position, that's useful input too. I love the phone, I just feel like it will be "dated" in a month. Seems like the worst possible time to buy... I'm in a pickle.
Thoughts?
I don't know the answer to your question but I just switched to Verizon from sprint and got the S3. Waiting on it in the mail now. I don't think u can do what u want but im not sure. Hopefully someone can answer it for sure
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You would have to purchase a phone at full retail price. Then you could get the pro rated price later.
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You would have to purchase a phone at full retail price. Then you could get the pro rated price later.
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Or he could buy a phone off craigslist and go in there with one already...
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Or he could buy a phone off craigslist and go in there with one already...
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This is an interesting idea - so I would need to find a Verizon-capable smartphone on Craigslist as cheap as possible, and then use the "upgrade" later when I want?
Another option would be do the pre paid route until you find a phone you want, then jump on contract.
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Another option would be do the pre paid route until you find a phone you want, then jump on contract.
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I had not thought of this option yet, although the thought of going pre-paid doesn't appeal to me for some reason. I doubt my wife would go for it either. I have heard that pre-paid is getting more popular though - any suggestions for going pre-paid if I do explore that route? There's so many options out there now...
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I had not thought of this option yet, although the thought of going pre-paid doesn't appeal to me for some reason. I doubt my wife would go for it either. I have heard that pre-paid is getting more popular though - any suggestions for going pre-paid if I do explore that route? There's so many options out there now...
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Go to the galaxy nexus forum and look at the threads that say prepaid service guides or something similar. One of them says "rule your plan with..." they all talk about the best prepaid plans for the money.
Here is one of the more popular ones http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455014
Obviously you don't have to do it with a nexus, you can use one of the prepaid ****ty phones. They just talk about the plans there. When I read it a long time ago most of them involved getting the prepaid phone and then switching out the sim card so you could just chill with the original phone until something interesting comes out on Verizon.
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Wouldn't that be essentially the same thing as buying a phone and going month to month on Verizon until getting the phone he wants at a pro-rated price and contract?
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Wouldn't that be essentially the same thing as buying a phone and going month to month on Verizon until getting the phone he wants at a pro-rated price and contract?
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Only difference would be pre-paid may be cheaper, if I'm reading your message correctly.
Also, thanks for the quick replies everyone! I look forward to joining this community soon. Looks like I'll be getting an SIII this week. If it was just me, I'd employ one of these ideas you guys gave me. But since my wife is included... I'm gonna go the simple route and get the SIII, which was equivalent to my current phone anyway (EVO 4G LTE). Seems like it has the dev support to last the two years like my old EVO 4G did (it can run JB now - amazing). Plus the extra RAM future proofs it a bit. I don't game, so I don't need quad core I doubt. The S4 chip is a beast anywho.
Thanks again guys! See you in the forums soon!
Oh one last quick question: any issues I'll have rooting and unlocking this phone? I've only owned HTC and been with Sprint, so I'm unsure of how to do all of this. I hear Verizon is not very friendly about unlocking phones.
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PsiPhiDan said:
Oh one last quick question: any issues I'll have rooting and unlocking this phone? I've only owned HTC and been with Sprint, so I'm unsure of how to do all of this. I hear Verizon is not very friendly about unlocking phones.
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It was just a pain in the ass to get it unlocked to begin with. Since it's been figured out it's simple. Bookmark the guide in my sig, Droidstyle did a good job about laying it all out.
PsiPhiDan said:
Only difference would be pre-paid may be cheaper, if I'm reading your message correctly.
Also, thanks for the quick replies everyone! I look forward to joining this community soon. Looks like I'll be getting an SIII this week. If it was just me, I'd employ one of these ideas you guys gave me. But since my wife is included... I'm gonna go the simple route and get the SIII, which was equivalent to my current phone anyway (EVO 4G LTE). Seems like it has the dev support to last the two years like my old EVO 4G did (it can run JB now - amazing). Plus the extra RAM future proofs it a bit. I don't game, so I don't need quad core I doubt. The S4 chip is a beast anywho.
Thanks again guys! See you in the forums soon!
Oh one last quick question: any issues I'll have rooting and unlocking this phone? I've only owned HTC and been with Sprint, so I'm unsure of how to do all of this. I hear Verizon is not very friendly about unlocking phones.
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The bootloader can be unlocked easily, obtaining root is a simple one-click affair, and VZW has never been friendly about anything but your open wallet. Congrats on the new phone and carrier switch.
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It was just a pain in the ass to get it unlocked to begin with. Since it's been figured out it's simple. Bookmark the guide in my sig, Droidstyle did a good job about laying it all out.
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Okay that sounds good, thank you!
I was concerned mostly because with my phone, only the non-updated ones can be rooted and unlocked right now. Since I had mine since launch day, my original bootloader was able to be hacked and exploited. New phones bought today have different bootloaders that have patched the explored holes. HTC can be evil that way. I know Samsung is more dev friendly, but I wanted to make sure there were no stipulations like with my phone where I would be screwed if I bought a new one now.
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PsiPhiDan said:
Hello everyone, I'm a longtime Sprint user, and am looking forward to my switch to Verizon very soon! I currently own an EVO 4G LTE, and am taking a look at what phones I should get when I switch companies. The best available phone right now appears to undoubtedly be the SIII.
I have heard that there are some pretty awesome phones on the horizon, and I would love to get them (HTC's apparent phablet, Razr Maxx HD, etc.). However, I really don't think I can wait until November because I can't possibly tolerate Sprint anymore and their ridiculous lack of coverage in my area (they told me the towers are being upgraded for the past 7 months).
So my question is this: is there any way to delay my upgraded phone price so that I can use it once these newer phones are released? In other words, can I use another phone or do something else in order to not use that contract upgrade until November, even if I sign up for their service this week? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Also, if you would just go get the SIII if you were in my position, that's useful input too. I love the phone, I just feel like it will be "dated" in a month. Seems like the worst possible time to buy... I'm in a pickle.
Thoughts?
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If you are going to wait 3 weeks you might as well wait for the note 2. Just my two cents.
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There's still no release date on the Note 2 is there?
Plus I'm not sure a phone that large is for me. I'm getting the Note 10.1 soon, so do I need a phone that's a tablet too? I'm not sure. Plus I won't pay over 200 for a phone. I'm guessing the Note 2 will go for 300 or more.
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When I switched to Verizon from T-Mobile in December I went month to month on an OG Droid I owned until the GNex came out and then I upgraded
PsiPhiDan said:
This is an interesting idea - so I would need to find a Verizon-capable smartphone on Craigslist as cheap as possible, and then use the "upgrade" later when I want?
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It wouldn't have to be a smart phone. Buy a cheap flip phone or something. However there is always something Coming soon so you may find yourself with that cheap phone for a long time
I have an AT&T Galaxy S5 right now, but the One Plus One seems to be the better phone. Should I make the switch? Or stick with what I have?
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jellymonster442 said:
I have an AT&T Galaxy S5 right now, but the One Plus One seems to be the better phone. Should I make the switch? Or stick with what I have?
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Personally I'll never but a mobile Samsung device again, so were I to advise you I'd drop the S5 and get the One. It's cheaper, won't have a locked bootloader and should have tremendous community support due to the affordability and CM relationship.
Of course, the last part is contingent on overall availability - hopefully that won't be an issue.
sell it and use the money to buy two OPO if you can get your hands on them. lol
Since you're on XDA we'll assume rooting and customization are important to you which pretty much makes the AT&T version of the Galaxy S5 a non-starter.
The OPO is closer in size to the Galaxy Note 3 than the S5 though, so you'd need to decide if the size is right for you to begin with.
GS5 has a great camera so that might factor into your decision too. We have yet to see any head to head image comparisons between GS5 and OPO but it's my understanding the OPO uses the same camera as the Oppo Find 7/a. I *have* seen a head to head comparison between the Find 7a and GS5 and the Samsung images were better, so it's reasonable to assume similar results may be seen with the OPO. I look forward to seeing a good shootout comparison, hopefully soon.
Since you're on AT&T it's worth noting that OPO only supports two out of AT&T's four LTE bands. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong but I assume the AT&T GS5 supports all 4 AT&T LTE bands, meaning it may perform better on AT&T's network in high traffic areas where those other two LTE bands are in use.
If you're eligible for a subsidized phone on contract from AT&T then the GS5 is cheaper. Otherwise at full price the OPO is cheaper.
Finally, OPO has no SD card expansion slot, the battery is not removable and it's not waterproof, so the GS5 wins in those categories too (except the lack a 32GB version of the GS5 is lame despite the SD card slot). The workarounds are to buy the 64GB OPO variant, carry a portable charger and don't drop it in the toilet. Probably not deal-breakers but still worth noting.
I don't understand
Please help me understand something.
It's not just this thread, but I see multiple threads on XDA and several other sites.
"should I keep X, or switch to Y".
Does your current device work, are you happy with it, does it do everything you like?
Why would you switch then, other than fill a fixation with something newer.
I see it all the time. People replace their phones, cars, houses, because something new
comes along or "everyone" is doing it. I guess I'm old...I just don't get the narcissistic need
to be getting the newest anything all the time. Is ANYONE happy anymore?
p51d007 said:
Please help me understand something.
It's not just this thread, but I see multiple threads on XDA and several other sites.
"should I keep X, or switch to Y".
Does your current device work, are you happy with it, does it do everything you like?
Why would you switch then, other than fill a fixation with something newer.
I see it all the time. People replace their phones, cars, houses, because something new
comes along or "everyone" is doing it. I guess I'm old...I just don't get the narcissistic need
to be getting the newest anything all the time. Is ANYONE happy anymore?
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We're not meant to understand it. You and I grew up in a different time when we learned to be content with what we had and make the most of it. We drank a simpler KoolAid.
Over the last 20+ years advertising has zombified the millenials to believe that a new version of X is what is required to be happy. You see it everywhere these days. 4 year old car? So sorry you almost paid it off, come trade it in so we can bilk your for a new one. Cell phone almost 6 months old? Rent a new one from us at a premium price!
It's the new oppression/slavery. Keep you in debt buying smartphones so that you never look up to see that they've taken your rights, your savings, away. The TV industry is now attempting to follow suite with cellphones. HD4K is here and HD8K is already being touted attempting to get folks to dump their current 1080p displays.
For once, I'm glad to be older.
p51d007 said:
Please help me understand something.
It's not just this thread, but I see multiple threads on XDA and several other sites.
"should I keep X, or switch to Y".
Does your current device work, are you happy with it, does it do everything you like?
Why would you switch then, other than fill a fixation with something newer.
I see it all the time. People replace their phones, cars, houses, because something new
comes along or "everyone" is doing it. I guess I'm old...I just don't get the narcissistic need
to be getting the newest anything all the time. Is ANYONE happy anymore?
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My current device works, but not at 100%. The USB port no longer functions so I can't hook it up to my computer. Also, my battery is giving out (dies in half a day). Otherwise, it does everything I like. So I'm shopping around for a new device. I'm just dropping by to see if it's a reasonable upgrade, or if I should wait for something else.
So people's decision to upgrade isn't always simply fixated on something being newer. People get new houses when their family outgrows their older one. People often buy themselves a nicer car when they can finally afford one after getting a better job. Plenty of reasons why people do the things they do. You shouldn't judge them for it, even if it's simply because they want something newer.