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Samsung is unveiling a new generation of Galaxy S phones. What does this mean for current Galaxy S users? Are we going to be neglected once Samsung unveils this newer and sexier line of galaxy phones? Could there be cross-development between this generation and the next generation of Galaxy phones? Any Captivate owners planning to abandon ship or reluctantly stay with your current phone?
I'm currently debating whether I should sell my Captivate in a few weeks (I'm sure holiday demand will help increase prices a little ) and grab the newer galaxy phones when they come out, or just stick with this already amazing phone. Decisions decisions...

I'm sticking with mine..I do have to ask you something though..Why are you in a quandary over this..if you actually think this...
or just stick with this already amazing phone
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..Why change to something that may not be ? Are the specs that great on this unreleased as yet phone that you feel compelled to change...or [/I]do you just have to have the latest and greatest out all the time.?
Mac

Mac11700 said:
I'm sticking with mine..I do have to ask you something though..Why are you in a quandary over this..if you actually think this.....Why change to something that may not be ? Are the specs that great on this unreleased as yet phone that you feel compelled to change...or [/I]do you just have to have the latest and greatest out all the time.?
Mac
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My quandry is that although this is an amazing phone, the specs on the new phone make it seem amazinger! Also I'm kind of upset that these phones were released around June, I bought mine in August, and Samsung is releasing the next generation of phones in less than a year! At least Apple has the decency to wait a year I know all of this is based on here-say, but who doesn't want the latest and greatest???

wuxingwarrior3 said:
My quandry is that although this is an amazing phone, the specs on the new phone make it seem amazinger! Also I'm kind of upset that these phones were released around June, I bought mine in August, and Samsung is releasing the next generation of phones in less than a year! At least Apple has the decency to wait a year I know all of this is based on here-say, but who doesn't want the latest and greatest???
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It's not like there is really anything on the new phones that the Captivate won't be able to do...

I'm hanging in. With the great developers here I can't see this phone going out of style for awhile yet.
You're the type of user that Samsung drools over.

We first started seeing leaks of the current galaxy S devices in April of 2009... It takes quite a bit of time to go from a few prototypes to actual production.

sticking with my current phone. couldn't afford to upgrade anyway..

There is always going to be something better"just around the corner" ......the wonders of modern technology
Not sure what more I can expect my phone to do at this point though....but I am sure I will upgrade again though not til next summer

cappysw10 said:
I'm hanging in. With the great developers here I can't see this phone going out of style for awhile yet.
You're the type of user that Samsung drools over.
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LOL I'm not usually the type of person to sell my current phone to get the latest and greatest but like I said, this new lineup looks amazing.

wuxingwarrior3 said:
LOL I'm not usually the type of person to sell my current phone to get the latest and greatest but like I said, this new lineup looks amazing.
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By the same token, if you stand back and compare this with phones that were being sold 2 years ago our current lineup is pretty awsome...

veive said:
By the same token, if you stand back and compare this with phones that were being sold 2 years ago our current lineup is pretty awsome...
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+1 to this

veive said:
By the same token, if you stand back and compare this with phones that were being sold 2 years ago our current lineup is pretty awsome...
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That's true, but we're not living in 2008 anymore! I'm want to have a handset that will last me through 2012

For me this will last til 2012. Will it be top of the line, no. with the way the technology curve is going I don't see any phone lasting very long on top at all. Not unless they develope hardware that most likely the common public is not willing to spend.
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Nerz said:
For me this will last til 2012. Will it be top of the line, no. with the way the technology curve is going I don't see any phone lasting very long on top at all. Not unless they develope hardware that most likely the common public is not willing to spend.
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This phone will be plenty to last at least for two years until my contract is up.
Hell, I bought a PS3 in 2006 and Sony is just about to release the console's most anticipated game ever Gran Turismo 5.
And that will easily last a couple more years before a Playstation 4 is revealed.
Although there will be newer phones, I think the Captivate is future proof for a couple of years.
That is what open-source and apps are for.

I love the captivate currently and the prospect of new phones means more software support in the future that is compatible with it.
Gingerbread not being released on the captivate? A long as a similar phone is and it meets the specs looks like our kitchens will be cooking for a long time.
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This...I just hope they keep developing for the Cap. And if "they" dont, I know someone who will /grin
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I bought my Captivate off contract, and if Samsung releases another phone on AT&T that I like, I'll buy that phone off contract as well. I don't mind having a stockpile of working GSM phones

Gingerbread

will we ever see gingerbread??? we are still waiting for an official Froyo, so just wondering ur thoughts on gingerbread release date for our phones...

SiL3nTKiLL said:
will we ever see gingerbread??? we are still waiting for an official Froyo, so just wondering ur thoughts on gingerbread release date for our phones...
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When there is a will there is a way. Chances are it will be a long time if ever but, I am sure we will see custom roms eventually

Most likely we will not see it In our phones
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Get real, anyone who reads this thread is gonna buy the newest latest greatest anyways.
Who cares about Gingerbread on our phone.

True
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With the Nexus S already sporting it and google actually programming for a Galaxy phone, the chances of Gingerbread are very good.
Google is already optimizing it for the hummingbird as we speak, it'll be easier for Samsung to port it to their other devices.
Before it was easy to port to the EVO and everything else just because the nexus one had very similar CPUs to all of them.

How do you know its using the same processor as our galaxy s phones?
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Most of the speculations suggest that it has a different processor, just saying.......
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not everyone has the money to outright buy the phone in feb and even if u got your cap at release your a long ways from an upgrade I will pay 600 or whatever it is because i have to have it. And I really think samsung working on froyo was a waste, seeing as how gingerbread is coming out soon, should have just upgraded to that next.

jc2470 said:
not everyone has the money to outright buy the phone in feb and even if u got your cap at release your a long ways from an upgrade I will pay 600 or whatever it is because i have to have it. And I really think samsung working on froyo was a waste, seeing as how gingerbread is coming out soon, should have just upgraded to that next.
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Lol we don't see any evidence of Samsung putting effort into Froyo. I know there have been a few build leaks, but c'mon, you don't really think they put a ounce of sweat into it right?
Here's the Samsung dev team: 1 coder that plays starcraft at work and breaks a few things every now and then
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fatttire said:
Lol we don't see any evidence of Samsung putting effort into Froyo. I know there have been a few build leaks, but c'mon, you don't really think they put a ounce of sweat into it right?
Here's the Samsung dev team: 1 coder that plays starcraft at work and breaks a few things every now and then
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lol, agreed. Don't know why so much talk about "Gingerbread"
We don't even have "Froyo" yet, only the leaked version. And even then, when the official release does come out, I won't be upgrading. Too bloated when AT&T get's their hands on it. I'll stick with the customs.
Plus I think most of the people in here that has any of the Galaxy S phones will most likely part ways when "Gingerbread" is out. I know I will (and I don't think our Galaxy S phones will get it either).
I also believe there is no "GPS fix" for our phones in the future either and there won't be one.
Haven't been proven wrong yet. (Remember the GPS "improvement" in September) What a JOKE!
Samsung = Fail in Customer Support
Future Phrase: "It was fun while it lasted"

Xstop said:
lol, agreed. Don't know why so much talk about "Gingerbread"
We don't even have "Froyo" yet, only the leaked version. And even then, when the official release does come out, I won't be upgrading. Too bloated when AT&T get's their hands on it. I'll stick with the customs.
Plus I think most of the people in here that has any of the Galaxy S phones will most likely part ways when "Gingerbread" is out. I know I will (and I don't think our Galaxy S phones will get it either).
I also believe there is no "GPS fix" for our phones in the future either and there won't be one.
Haven't been proven wrong yet. (Remember the GPS "improvement" in September) What a JOKE!
Samsung = Fail in Customer Support
Future Phrase: "It was fun while it lasted"
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Shame since by just about every spec, the galaxy s is ahead of it's time. If only samsung supported it and the a droid market actually apps to push it.

Corriewf said:
Shame since by just about every spec, the galaxy s is ahead of it's time. If only samsung supported it and the a droid market actually apps to push it.
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That's the problem, Samsung figured if it put in all the most powerful toys in a single package and didn't give a crap about how it was put together or how the software is to make it actually work, it'd still sell on specs alone.
And they were right.
So they now have absolutely no incentive to make a more quality phone in the future. They're just lucking out that Google is choosing them to be the next Nexus (if rumors/leaks are true, of course).

Corriewf said:
Shame since by just about every spec, the galaxy s is ahead of it's time. If only samsung supported it and the a droid market actually apps to push it.
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Yea, corporate enterprises sucks when it comes to customer support.
All about the $$$ in the end.
A lot of marketing by Samsung, think they want to brand everything Galaxy???
I'll be buying my galaxy M microwave tomorrow.

Xstop said:
Yea, corporate enterprises sucks when it comes to customer support.
All about the $$$ in the end.
A lot of marketing by Samsung, think they want to brand everything Galaxy???
I'll be buying my galaxy M microwave tomorrow.
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Here is the problem samsung doesn't seem to get. We buy their phones on a two year contract. They get paid monthly or whatever from AT&T for us signing up for two years. Who in the $&$& wants to buy their phone when you don't even get a full six months of support from samsung. I have to pay AT&T for two years to buy this phone. I know apple gets paid monthly from AT&T as part of their subsidation process. I bet samsung does too. They get paid for nothing. What a rip.
2.2 should have been released sept at the latest. Things should be gearing up for 2.3.... And we are still waiting for 2.2... Last samsung phone.

Anyone who wants to can install the leaked 2.2. I have, it's rooted, and has lagfix installed. It's very fast and GPS works great...I'm just sayin'.
Mike

MicroBeta said:
Anyone who wants to can install the leaked 2.2. I have, it's rooted, and has lagfix installed. It's very fast and GPS works great...I'm just sayin'.
Mike
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Been there done that still have broken gps. I bought the captivate assuming they would fix the gps. I still doubt that broad com would somehow make a gps module that doesn't work.

Agreed, I had a captivate with a go phone sim in it, and now have a fascinate on vzw, we actually got a leak last week,( if u thought att was behind hear this) is was eclair, it did address and fix, GPS Fully, but this is a eclair maintenance update scheduled to come out in December. I don't know about everyone else but I could give a duck less is they give me the greatest eclair ever made. I don't want it. Even tho I knew better when I got this phone I was told "you will have 2.2 within the month" welll its been forever and not a mention
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ksizzle9 said:
Agreed, I had a captivate with a go phone sim in it, and now have a fascinate on vzw, we actually got a leak last week,( if u thought att was behind hear this) is was eclair, it did address and fix, GPS Fully, but this is a eclair maintenance update scheduled to come out in December. I don't know about everyone else but I could give a duck less is they give me the greatest eclair ever made. I don't want it. Even tho I knew better when I got this phone I was told "you will have 2.2 within the month" welll its been forever and not a mention
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Now that is scary! Why would they still be working on 2.1?

Corriewf said:
Here is the problem samsung doesn't seem to get. We buy their phones on a two year contract. They get paid monthly or whatever from AT&T for us signing up for two years. Who in the $&$& wants to buy their phone when you don't even get a full six months of support from samsung. I have to pay AT&T for two years to buy this phone. I know apple gets paid monthly from AT&T as part of their subsidation process. I bet samsung does too. They get paid for nothing. What a rip.
2.2 should have been released sept at the latest. Things should be gearing up for 2.3.... And we are still waiting for 2.2... Last samsung phone.
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Apple may have a special deal but other Phone makers do not. Samsung, Moto, HTC - they sell through many channels, not just AT&T - and they sell off contract.
The way it works for hardware:
AT&T buys phones from Samsung... probably about $300 per phone. They sell them subsidized for $200 or maybe $0.99 or they sell it unsubsidized for $499. Samsung makes their profit on the phone sale when they wholesale them to AT&T.
Updates are created by Samsung on behalf of the carrier. If AT&T doesn't want to bother with an update, then the manufacturer doesn't create it. Again, this goes for Samsung, Moto, HTC, etc. It has been this way for WinMo and Android. Nothing new here.
Believe it or not, Apple also sells the phones for fixed price to AT&T. They may make money on some monthly cut, but that is a separate deal. But don't compare Apple, they have a deal different from every other phone maker out there.

Android phonoe not a good investment?

i mean "Android phone"
There is always a new model every month so your new Android depreciate very fast, ifyour lucky 2months only it will depreciate?
Manufacturer should just release 1 model every year!
Right?

Comparing to the iphone, yea.

It's good for the buyer and bad for the reseller.

That will never happen. Manufacturers care nothing about your phone's value after you purchase it. To compete with the Iphone they have to produce many different phones to cater to everyone's needs. I personally like new and better phones coming out all the time. Who wants the same phone for a year?

I plan to use my phone for several years. I did use my previous one for about 5 years (it was a Nokia N80) and only replaced it because of a hardware defect. Why does it matter that new phones are out? Your current one doesn't become a worse phone because of it, it's still the same phone that you bought because you determined that it suits your needs.

...if you care more about resale value of your phone, then sure.
Most people here care more about new technologies in hardware and software I would think.
iphone will not have NFC, bigger screens, LTE, etc.. for nearly another year. Its outdated before it was even released. And it holds it value only because of its restricted platform.

rye&ginger said:
...if you care more about resale value of your phone, then sure.
Most people here care more about new technologies in hardware and software I would think.
iphone will not have NFC, bigger screens, LTE, etc.. for nearly another year. Its outdated before it was even released. And it holds it value only because of its restricted platform.
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Exactly. To alot of us, it is all about the new technology. And to keep with the topic of the OP, the sooner you decide to upgrade, the more resale value your phone has.

Gusar321 said:
I plan to use my phone for several years. I did use my previous one for about 5 years (it was a Nokia N80) and only replaced it because of a hardware defect. Why does it matter that new phones are out? Your current one doesn't become a worse phone because of it, it's still the same phone that you bought because you determined that it suits your needs.
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They said Infuse 4g will not be supported by ICS, and all other single core android device

Try selling a used SGS2 when anyone can get a new one for $500.
Then try selling a used 16gb iPhone 4 when a new 8gb iPhone 4 (not 4s) costs $550.

I think as long as you enjoy it, it is a good investment.
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No phone is an investment. By definition, an investment appreciates in value, no phone appreciates only depreciates invalue; some quicker than others. Unless you've got serial # 1 of the Google Nexus or something.

robsaw said:
No phone is an investment. By definition, an investment appreciates in value, no phone appreciates only depreciates invalue; some quicker than others. Unless you've got serial # 1 of the Google Nexus or something.
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Iphone 4s appreciate in value, if you bought one now you can sell it for almost a thousand bucks on ebay?

spirikitik said:
They said Infuse 4g will not be supported by ICS, and all other single core android device
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So how is a nexus S going to be the first device with an update to ICS when it is a lowly single-core device?
Spec whores really need to calm down.

spirikitik said:
i mean "Android phone"
There is always a new model every month so your new Android depreciate very fast, ifyour lucky 2months only it will depreciate?
Manufacturer should just release 1 model every year!
Right?
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That's the problem with cannibalization, you have different manufacturers all fighting for a larger slice of the pie. If theY stop releasing new handsets while other companies continue to pump out new models, revenues drop, profits drop, share price tanks, bye bye manufacturer.
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spirikitik said:
Iphone 4s appreciate in value, if you bought one now you can sell it for almost a thousand bucks on ebay?
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That's not appreciation in value. Appreciation in value happens over time (if it happens). That is purely because there are people willing to pay a lot of money rather than wait for their carrier or local shop to get it.
Seriously, why are you going all over a heavily Android based community and bigging up the iPhone everywhere? This community is for discussion and development that serves to make everyone's Android experience better. You're just posting things like this...
Android phonoe not a good investment?
Is it wise to buy new Android device if there is a coming new model every month?
Why iPhone 4s sells to almost 2 million over the weekend?
Reason why iPhone 4s kills Android
Please stop trolling our forums. If you don't like Android then stop posting in Android forums. If you do want your Android phone (if you have one) to be better then stick at reading the forums. If you'd prefer an iPhone then please just get one!
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spirikitik said:
i mean "Android phone"
There is always a new model every month so your new Android depreciate very fast, ifyour lucky 2months only it will depreciate?
Manufacturer should just release 1 model every year!
Right?
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Who cares if it depreciates, it's a phone, not a share. Just buy what you like and have fun with it. This unless you really plan on reselling it: in that case buy an iPhone: next summer you'll be able to sell it for 450€ or so and upgrade to a new phone almost "for free"...

spirikitik said:
i mean "Android phone"
There is always a new model every month so your new Android depreciate very fast, ifyour lucky 2months only it will depreciate?
Manufacturer should just release 1 model every year!
Right?
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no phone is ever an investment
a phone is a phone, you don't gain money on it, you lose money on it the moment you pay for it, just like cars
the older the phone/car the less valuable it is
so it doesn't really matter which OS it is running.
if you like a specific model, buy it, if not, wait for the next better model

AllGamer said:
no phone is ever an investment
a phone is a phone, you don't gain money on it, you lose money on it the moment you pay for it, just like cars
the older the phone/car the less valuable it is
so it doesn't really matter which OS it is running.
if you like a specific model, buy it, if not, wait for the next better model
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I agree with what he said, dont ever buy a phone thinking you will be able to make a lot of the money back.
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AllGamer said:
no phone is ever an investment
a phone is a phone, you don't gain money on it, you lose money on it the moment you pay for it, just like cars
the older the phone/car the less valuable it is
so it doesn't really matter which OS it is running.
if you like a specific model, buy it, if not, wait for the next better model
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Depends in what way you mean investment. Investment when you already have a phone, or an investment when you don't have a phone but need one to earn any money? Of course it's an investment when you need a phone.
It's the same for most things. Yes I'm being highly pedantic

spirikitik said:
i mean "Android phone"
There is always a new model every month so your new Android depreciate very fast, ifyour lucky 2months only it will depreciate?
Manufacturer should just release 1 model every year!
Right?
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Personally I would rather see frequency updates so that there is always a "new" phone available when I want one. I would hate for the only phone available when I need one to be 10 months old already.

[Q] Blaze Info

My LG Optimus T died just in-time for an eligable phone upgrade. After looking at my options, the Blaze is the only phone with improved specs (compared to Optimus), and a reasonable screen size. I'd prefer an iPhone, but T-Mobile is the only service that works in my apartment. Are screen sizes only gonna get bigger, as new, more powerful, phones are released? I feel like I need to move on the Blaze before it's discontinued and only gigantic 4G phones remain. Is this a fair assessment, or will future phone screens return to reasonable sizes?
Thanks,
-Adam

if you xan not wait for an LTE enabled phones that would be comming out in near furure (3-6 months, galaxy note 2 has it but is 5"screen...) get the Blaze, same internal specs as Galaxy S2 (processor, video, RAM) but in smaler package..
I love it, i just wish it had LTE chip i wouldnt change it anytime soon...
I had all the T-Mobile Galaxy phones from the last 2-3 years starting w the Vibrant, 4G, SGS2, SGS3, then i even had the Nexus 4 for a day two before i sold if for $100 profit when they was hard to get...
at that point after i knew what i want, a capable 4" screen phone.
get it, you wont b dissapointed.

It's probably one of the best 4 inchers out there. I think the majority of the top phones will continue to be 4.3" and up. But there will always be a smaller assortment of capable 3.7 to 4" phones out there. As you probably know the iPhone finally moved up to 4. So obviously there is a market for a more average size phones.

mybe we get lucky to get a new revision of he blaze w JB, quad core processor, LTE chip, and 4" higher res screen ...
it would def be my next phone, very satisfied w the Blaze...

adam79 said:
My LG Optimus T died just in-time for an eligable phone upgrade. After looking at my options, the Blaze is the only phone with improved specs (compared to Optimus), and a reasonable screen size. I'd prefer an iPhone, but T-Mobile is the only service that works in my apartment. Are screen sizes only gonna get bigger, as new, more powerful, phones are released? I feel like I need to move on the Blaze before it's discontinued and only gigantic 4G phones remain. Is this a fair assessment, or will future phone screens return to reasonable sizes?
Thanks,
-Adam
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Bigger phones are always gonna be the most popular because people r brain washed into buying what everyone else has and what is in commercials but ill tell since i got the blaze i havent regretted one minute of it simple rooting process awesome roms from gb to jb and Your not gonna find a better 4 inch phone out there with the ROM selection and dev community we have it is awesome and this phone rocks for real pull the trigger on it u won't be disappointed
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I myself came from the lg optimus t to the Samsung galaxy s blaze. I am extremely satisfied with the blaze I really didn't like the optimus t but I love my blaze I highly recommend the Samsung galaxy s blaze.
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Car Toys
I'm gonna go ahead a get the Blaze. I did some price searching and found this site Car Toys that offers the Blaze for only 1 cent, to T-Mobile customers eligible for an upgrade. Has anyone dealt with this place? The price seems too good to be true. I was filling out the order form, but when they started asking me for my social security #, license info, etc I got hesitant.
Thanks,
-Adam

adam79 said:
I'm gonna go ahead a get the Blaze. I did some price searching and found this site Car Toys that offers the Blaze for only 1 cent, to T-Mobile customers eligible for an upgrade. Has anyone dealt with this place? The price seems too good to be true. I was filling out the order form, but when they started asking me for my social security #, license info, etc I got hesitant.
Thanks,
-Adam
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The t-mobile web site also has it for free, with the activation fee waived. Click on the "view details" link in the one where it shows the price as $99, and presto...the price is 0$. No rebates either.Personally I'd do that. Chances are, one of the official stores could honor that as well.
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/phones/Cell-Phone-Detail.aspx?cell-phone=Samsung-Galaxy-S-Blaze-4G

Cirkustanz said:
The t-mobile web site also has it for free, with the activation fee waived. Click on the "view details" link in the one where it shows the price as $99, and presto...the price is 0$. No rebates either.Personally I'd do that. Chances are, one of the official stores could honor that as well.
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/phones/Cell-Phone-Detail.aspx?cell-phone=Samsung-Galaxy-S-Blaze-4G
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Huh. When I checked it last week it was at $100; that limited time offer must have just started. Thanks for the link, I'm gonna order it tomorrow.

it's free with a new line activation, upgrade price is $99.00 plus $50 for a total of $149.00 plus shipping and fees.... and you get a $50 rebate card...

Activate new line in the store. Cancel old plan. If you're not still in an agreement period this is what you would do, assuming you don't mind having a new phone number.
If you're still in an agreement period you can't really do this because, well, the early termination fee is a thing.
Personally I think charging different rates is stupid. If you're not in an agreement period of any kind, (meaning, they've already milked you for a full subsidy amount or you never had one to begin with since you brought your own device) and you're willing to enter into a new one the same as a regular joe, you should get the same deal.
But that promotion is to attract new customers!
Great. You'll need to attract a new customer to replace me.
That's my view.

On a scale of 1-10, how hard did we get screwed by LG?

If I see another crappy metro/huawei or no name device with sub-par or similar hardware compared to our phone running official ics, jb or cm10.1 I'm going to grab it and light it on fire. When I bought this phone it was a toss up between the galaxy s2 and the g2x. I bought the g2x because Mr. T-Mobile man talked me into it (they were the same price.) This was before I really knew anything about android as far as rooting and custom firm of course. This device could easily be given an official ICS update at the VERY least. LG screwed us, hard and long. On a scale of 1-10 I give this screwing a 9, ONLY because the amazing developers we have here stretched this device to its absolute limits and continue to do more. If it weren't for them, well I don't even want to think about that. So on a scale of 1-10, how hard do you feel you've been screwed by LG?

Pain-N-Panic said:
If I see another crappy metro/huawei or no name device with sub-par or similar hardware compared to our phone running official ics, jb or cm10.1 I'm going to grab it and light it on fire. When I bought this phone it was a toss up between the galaxy s2 and the g2x. I bought the g2x because Mr. T-Mobile man talked me into it (they were the same price.) This was before I really knew anything about android as far as rooting and custom firm of course. This device could easily be given an official ICS update at the VERY least. LG screwed us, hard and long. On a scale of 1-10 I give this screwing a 9, ONLY because the amazing developers we have here stretched this device to its absolute limits and continue to do more. If it weren't for them, well I don't even want to think about that. So on a scale of 1-10, how hard do you feel you've been screwed by LG?
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I'd actually rate it as a screwing of 10. The awesome quality of roms, updates and patches that the developers here have provided doesn't change the fact that LGE ****ed us over. I made A LOT of noise about this to Wind Mobile here in Canada early on because I didn't quite understand that it wasn't the carrier holding me back (Wind's P999 is still officially on Froyo if I'm not mistaken ... I installed CM7 immediately so I don't know if one update ever made it out).
Nothing but love for everyone here who tried to squeeze some additional life out of this device. Hell, if giveen manages to get the radio working (others have tried previously) then I'd say the G2x can once again be a half decent phone.
It's truly a shame that a vendor as large as LG would treat a community of consumers so poorly. Never again LG, never again ...

I'm going to say almost no chance off me getting radio to work. I'm being honest.
I've looked over it, examined it with a few other dev's and a couple programmer friends and everything points that it should work, the only thing we can't look at is the precompiled RIL

I don't think they screwed us that bad. From the get go lots of people had issues with this phone and chances are they have a new phone by now. I've had mine for 2 1/2 years now. Its the only phone I've been able to keep. Yes a working ics would be awesome but when I bought the phone I had no idea what any of that was lol. I played w/ a nexus4 and even though it was cool didn't feel the need to spend all that money for features I wouldn't use. Everything I need to do I can do on this phone. So on a scale of 1-10 I would give a 5 only because they screwed alot of people from the get go.
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Its all because of the tegra 2 chip, it was no longer supported by them...although samsung still does which is odd and awesome :0 stupid LG... if it had a qualcomm chipset it would still be have support from LG therefore never buy tegra devices lmao:silly:

10! Terribly mishandled by lg and they wiped their hands clean and pretended phone never existed. Backlight bleeding, major software issues even on gingerbread, yea we all know the potential it had but oh well. Ran with it for two years and glad to have left this junk phone behind
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giveen said:
I'm going to say almost no chance off me getting radio to work. I'm being honest.
I've looked over it, examined it with a few other dev's and a couple programmer friends and everything points that it should work, the only thing we can't look at is the precompiled RIL
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That's too bad, but knowing the amount of effort you and others have invested no one will complain (or shouldn't at least )
As soon as my contract is up and I can dump this phone without having to pay the remainder of the "Wind tab", I will be glad to move on to something that's NOT an LG product.

alexbevi said:
That's too bad, but knowing the amount of effort you and others have invested no one will complain (or shouldn't at least )
As soon as my contract is up and I can dump this phone without having to pay the remainder of the "Wind tab", I will be glad to move on to something that's NOT an LG product.
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Yeah, I am pretty disappointed myself. I came in here thinking that it would be a snap but I ended up stuck just as everyone else.
Its always proprietary files that are the issue.

It's not LG, not really. It's the carrier. Cheap ass carriers like wind (froyo) and tmo (gb) are the real fault. It's not Tegra either, since p990 got ics.
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bluenote73 said:
It's not LG, not really. It's the carrier. Cheap ass carriers like wind (froyo) and tmo (gb) are the real fault. It's not Tegra either, since p990 got ics.
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I'm pretty sure it is LG though. If LG doesn't release updates to the carriers, the carriers can't spend months and months injecting bloatware into those updates before releasing them to us. the suckers ...er customers.

bluenote73 said:
It's not LG, not really. It's the carrier. Cheap ass carriers like wind (froyo) and tmo (gb) are the real fault. It's not Tegra either, since p990 got ics.
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Then why did T-Mobile get GB and Wind did not? Wind ROMs have no bloatware at all.
From what I heard Wind didn't get the update because they didn't sell enough sets. That to me kind of makes sense.
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In the absence of a valid argument, 2+1=3 may be used to explain why the g2x did not get the ICS update!
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I was agreeing with you above (lol, posted reply to the wrong one).
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In the absence of a valid argument, 2+1=3 may be used to explain why the g2x did not get the ICS update!

mansa_noob said:
Then why did T-Mobile get GB and Wind did not? Wind ROMs have no bloatware at all.
From what I heard Wind didn't get the update because they didn't sell enough sets. That to me kind of makes sense.
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In the absence of a valid argument, 2+1=3 may be used to explain why the g2x did not get the ICS update!
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I was agreeing with you above (lol, posted reply to the wrong one).
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In the absence of a valid argument, 2+1=3 may be used to explain why the g2x did not get the ICS update!
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It still sucks ... especially for those of us suckers (*cough* me *cough*) who still have 14 months to go on their no contract "contract" with Wind.
Oh well, live an learn. This experience made me so wary of LG that I didn't snap up a nexus 4 when they were on sale in the play store

should have gotten it. Updates for the nexus are handled by Google directly, NOT LG....thank god lol

Pain-N-Panic said:
should have gotten it. Updates for the nexus are handled by Google directly, NOT LG....thank god lol
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Nexus 4 is boss . I love this phone. Won't need to get the n5 anytime soon .

alexbevi said:
It still sucks ... especially for those of us suckers (*cough* me *cough*) who still have 14 months to go on their no contract "contract" with Wind.
Oh well, live an learn. This experience made me so wary of LG that I didn't snap up a nexus 4 when they were on sale in the play store
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What contract? if you want out buy the phone from them. Really and truthfully you are buying the phone either up front or to cancel the "contract" they do not hold you in nor charge you more then needed to pay for the phone. I still don't understand why this concept is so hard for people to understand.
i would give a 9 for my experience with LG. within months the headphone jack went bad and would barely hold the plug, the usb port is crappy, and sometimes wouldn't charge properly (both were denied under warrenty. The lack of updates is the biggest issues. The only reason this phone had life is because of the Hard work of modders then they went and fudged all that with the new base band update that broke the Bluetooth for modded phones.
At the time this was suppose to be their flagship phone, it was also the beefiest and fastest phone on the market, I was told like may others it will be updated only to get nothing out of it. Worse is that they allowed and branded it incorrectly in the Canadian Market.
I'll give it a point since it was built like a brick, i have dropped it so many times (after the aforementioned issues) and it still kept chugging for just over 2 years, eventually the screen went weird and acted like someone was constantly tapping it so i swapped it with an S4, a phone i know for sure will be supported and i can actually find proper accessories for it. The price point of the Nexus 5 is temping for sure, but when i check most cell phone stores in my area They carry mainly iphone and samsung accessories, which make up over 80% of the stock in some stores. This goes to show the popularity of the phones

icewolf293 said:
What contract? if you want out buy the phone from them. Really and truthfully you are buying the phone either up front or to cancel the "contract" they do not hold you in nor charge you more then needed to pay for the phone. I still don't understand why this concept is so hard for people to understand.
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It's not hard to understand at all, it just kind of sucks. The "original" price was $350 for the phone, which the Windtab covers (and nullifies at the end of 3 years). After 24 months, the tab is sitting at $290. I could buy the phone out, but it seems like a waste of money. I'm otherwise happy with wind so I'll keep an eye out for a replacement phone and just wait another year for the "contract" to expire.
I tend to ***** about the G2x mostly since it seemed to hold so much promise, was dropped very quickly by the manufacturer, and as a result I've got something that can't be updated, but I still have to pay for. I probably wouldn't complain as much if I'd already finished paying for the phone

alexbevi said:
It's not hard to understand at all, it just kind of sucks. The "original" price was $350 for the phone, which the Windtab covers (and nullifies at the end of 3 years). After 24 months, the tab is sitting at $290. I could buy the phone out, but it seems like a waste of money. I'm otherwise happy with wind so I'll keep an eye out for a replacement phone and just wait another year for the "contract" to expire.
I tend to ***** about the G2x mostly since it seemed to hold so much promise, was dropped very quickly by the manufacturer, and as a result I've got something that can't be updated, but I still have to pay for. I probably wouldn't complain as much if I'd already finished paying for the phone
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The original premise of Wind was no contracts, you buy a phone from them full price, choose a plan, choose a payment option (pre or post paid) and done. People wanted subsidized phones so they brought out the Wind tab. Here you are paying for the phone AFTER you used it not before, there are still no extra fees for it if you want to leave early. And it's 24 months, never has it been 36 months. In the end you are still buying the phone and used it for quite some time now, except now for you it's $290 vs $350, you still saved money I don't get how It's not worth it?

Initially wind tab would take 36 months to pay off, after the CRTC changed the rules all the providers have now switched to 24 months. Only customers who got the plan after the rule change get the 2 year tab, the rest have to complete the full 3 years
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This was more of a gangbang situation. Lg got some, nvidia got some, and T-Mobile got a piece too. And if you're unfortunate enough to be screwed by wind they seem even more despicable still! Wind definitely deserves a 10.
Lg 8 for putting this particular modem on this particular phone.
Nvidia 4 for being present lol
T-mobile 5 for acting like this phone was the poop and then tossing it like a dirty diaper.
On the brighter side a lot of us are reaching the end of the line with this thing and if nothing else it's been a great learning experience. This phone is so picky about kernels and settings and charging that we've had to become super disciplined about how we treat our phone or else it burns your nightstand. Plus having witnessed the long and frustrating journey of many devs pushing this phone just a little further each time has definitely enlightened me on how hard these guys work for something we all profit from. Holy crap this post got long! My bad. Carry on.

knotes said:
Initially wind tab would take 36 months to pay off, after the CRTC changed the rules all the providers have now switched to 24 months. Only customers who got the plan after the rule change get the 2 year tab, the rest have to complete the full 3 years
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Granted but he shouldn't really be complaining about the price of a phone he bought a year ago and using all this time, he should pay the price of when he started using it, not how much it's worth a year later, it's really just a selfish attitude