My sensation is s-off. I want stock recovery. Can I get root without cwm? If I just download the su app from market?
Thanks.
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Nope, but if you don't like CWM you can restore back by doing this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1228648&highlight=OTA+stock
So I can flash cwm apply su/root then flash back stock recovery and I will get Ota updates with no problems?
Afaik, chances are good, that you'll get OTA updates, but I think you'll also lose root then.
hg3atintin said:
So I can flash cwm apply su/root then flash back stock recovery and I will get Ota updates with no problems?
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Yes, worked for me ALSO: Read it through the guide, and insure that you got everything ready, if something should go the other way
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Afaik, chances are good, that you'll get OTA updates, but I think you'll also lose root then.
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Nope, only if it is a brand new version, like the ICS, then you will loose it. But not if you change from gingerbread 2.3.4 to 2.3.5
TheStigx said:
Nope, only if it is a brand new version, like the ICS, then you will loose it. But not if you change from gingerbread 2.3.4 to 2.3.5
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My experience is, that one will have to reapply root, if he installs something from stock.
But maybe I did something wrong in the past
My experience with CWM has been nothing but good. You should just install that recovery. I think, in my opinion you would like it. I've had it on my HTC sensation for several months now. No issues
100% agree guys here have latest updates in there roms before any ota updates - you can be running ics now if u want . U can always go back to stock s-on later. I'm no techie but I would never go back unless I needed to for warrenty
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I used the 1-click method to root my phone. When I do the software update it goes as far as downloading the update, then my phone reboots. And for some reason when it reboots it reboots into recovery. Then I reboot my phone and when it loads it says update failed. The update is 2.3.5 to 2.3.6 I'm assuming. The reason I make this assumption is just because my wife and I got the same phone on the same day and hers updated and mine didn't. I rooted, she didn't. I read something about having to have all your original apps installed when I did a search, but I have removed any of the bloatware or any other apps as of yet. Thanks for the help in advance!
To Take the OTA you need Stock recovery, not CWM there is a thread with the Stock recovery you can flash in Odin to get the OTA to install
Check out this link to another post on here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360943&highlight=stock+recovery+odin
this should be what you need to take the 2.3.6 OTA (which really isn't all that worth it, so if you're happy with 2.3.5 i would stay there until an ICS OTA comes)
Would a factory reset go back to stock recovery?
sumnerm1 said:
Would a factory reset go back to stock recovery?
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No a Factory reset just resets the user data not the recovery or system information
scubamikejax904 said:
To Take the OTA you need Stock recovery, not CWM there is a thread with the Stock recovery you can flash in Odin to get the OTA to install
Check out this link to another post on here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360943&highlight=stock+recovery+odin
this should be what you need to take the 2.3.6 OTA (which really isn't all that worth it, so if you're happy with 2.3.5 i would stay there until an ICS OTA comes)
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My understanding was that 2.3.6 implemented a new modem that improved the performance of the phone. I personally have great service compared to my Tmobile that I just bought out my contact on. Just wondering how much better that update would make my phone.
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If your rooted you can just flash the 2.3.6 radio in cwm... Or even a 2.3.6 ROM (MHX superlite 3.1 final was my GB ROM of choice)
There is a radio thread and also info in the all in one sticky thread.
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I just bought this new HTC One S from T-Mobile for Fathers Day and it says there is a system update available. I notice there is also a lot of bloatware that I would like to remove...
Is it possible to have the best of both worlds?? If so, which should I do first: system update, root, then remove bloatware?
Thanks.
If your rooting u might aswell install a custom Rom I recommend leedroid can't go wrong and when u install that Rom it will ask u what things u want to remove no point rooting and staying on stock Rom
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Install the update before you root the device. Otherwise, you'll end up being forced to remove everything to update.
Of course you install a custom ROM. Then you will need to flash the updated radio and install the 1.84 ROM.
update and then root. I just tried to update after rooting and it won't let me
k1llacanon said:
no point rooting and staying on stock Rom
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I dont have reason to switch to custom ROM at this moment. Meanwhile I need root for some applications...
Stiflerlv said:
I dont have reason to switch to custom ROM at this moment. Meanwhile I need root for some applications...
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same here. I like the stock rom so I think I will system update then root
So rumor has it that nexus S would be getting the 4.1.2 update so I thought I'll ask this just in case.
Will I get an OTA notification running custom kernel?
If yes is it safe to apply it?.
If no will I be able to just flash it with CWM without losing data?
Thats all I want to know I know it would revert back to stock kernel and unroot the phone which is not a problem.
Thanks in advance.
Gambler_3 said:
So rumor has it that nexus S would be getting the 4.1.2 update so I thought I'll ask this just in case.
Will I get an OTA notification running custom kernel?
If yes is it safe to apply it?.
If no will I be able to just flash it with CWM without losing data?
Thats all I want to know I know it would revert back to stock kernel and unroot the phone which is not a problem.
Thanks in advance.
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No problem with the custom kernel. But it won't work with a custom ROM. When the update will flash, it will overwrite the kernel anyway.
polobunny said:
No problem with the custom kernel. But it won't work with a custom ROM. When the update will flash, it will overwrite the kernel anyway.
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Thanks exactly what i was thinking and yes I am not running custom rom.
And to add on the update will flash just fine if you do it manually with cwm. It won't it you if it gets pushed to your phone and you select install ota... that would require stock recovery.
Either way hold your horses. Code released into aosp doesn't mean a update is coming right away. It may take a while
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And to add on the update will flash just fine if you do it manually with cwm. It won't it you if it gets pushed to your phone and you select install ota... that would require stock recovery.
Either way hold your horses. Code released into aosp doesn't mean a update is coming right away. It may take a while
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So I just dont let it apply the OTA update? Does the phone get bricked if you do it without having stock recovery?
It's not really an issue though since if I get the OTA it will obviously be available as a flash zip as well by then. But I am curious to know what happens in that scenario.
Update fails. Reboot.
Haven't seen anyone post about this (even after doing a Google search), but Verizon has started sending out the OTA today. My question is this: since my bootloader in unlocked, and I'm rooted, can I restore back to my stock ROM and take the update? Is there a possibility that I'd completely lose root? Obviously I'd lose superuser and such, but would it replace my bootloader and custom recovery?
Thanks in advance for any helpful replies. I've been around android for a while now, but I'm new to Samsung phones, and how the bootloaders work. (I'm used to HTC where you S-OFF and you're good to go)
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Haven't seen anyone post about this (even after doing a Google search), but Verizon has started sending out the OTA today. My question is this: since my bootloader in unlocked, and I'm rooted, can I restore back to my stock ROM and take the update?
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Yup, you can restore back to stock (via nandroid or Odin) and take the update. You should switch back your recovery if you restore a stock nandroid though.
Is there a possibility that I'd completely lose root? Obviously I'd lose superuser and such, but would it replace my bootloader and custom recovery?
Thanks in advance for any helpful replies. I've been around android for a while now, but I'm new to Samsung phones, and how the bootloaders work. (I'm used to HTC where you S-OFF and you're good to go)
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You answered your question, if you lose SU, you lose root. Verizon OTA's will replace your bootloader and custom recovery if you force the install to take through your custom recovery. It should fail initially but I've read around that folks installed the OTA in recovery.
I'll check my wife's phone tonight. If she gets the ota I will pull it from the cache and extract the boot loader and recovery and rezip it and see if it will flash via twrp
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Yup, you can restore back to stock (via nandroid or Odin) and take the update. You should switch back your recovery if you restore a stock nandroid though.
You answered your question, if you lose SU, you lose root. Verizon OTA's will replace your bootloader and custom recovery if you force the install to take through your custom recovery. It should fail initially but I've read around that folks installed the OTA in recovery.
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Ok thanks for the reply. What do you mean by switch back my recovery? I'm currently on TWRP which is what I rooted with, and I've been using it since. I just want a completely untampered stock OTA of the latest OTA.
tylerlawhon said:
Ok thanks for the reply. What do you mean by switch back my recovery? I'm currently on TWRP which is what I rooted with, and I've been using it since. I just want a completely untampered stock OTA of the latest OTA.
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I mean, the OTA will fail if you just try to accept it right now. It would also fail if you switched back to your stock nandroid because you still have TWRP installed too. That's how its always been. Switching to the stock recovery, you could use EZ Recovery to do so, would resolve that.
I've read that you can still have a custom recovery installed and successfully take the OTA with a custom recovery installed but idk the exact steps to take to make this happen. Since I have no need for accepting OTA's I try to learn from what people post here.
Edit: Seems my OTA/custom recovery inquiry has been answered pretty thoroughly here (post #10). You could try those steps if you desire too.
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I mean, the OTA will fail if you just try to accept it right now. It would also fail if you switched back to your stock nandroid because you still have TWRP installed too. That's how its always been. Switching to the stock recovery, you could use EZ Recovery to do so, would resolve that.
I've read that you can still have a custom recovery installed and successfully take the OTA with a custom recovery installed but idk the exact steps to take to make this happen. Since I have no need for accepting OTA's I try to learn from what people post here.
Edit: Seems my OTA/custom recovery inquiry has been answered pretty thoroughly here (post #10). You could try those steps if you desire too.
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Hmmm sounds interesting. I doubt I'd be able to use EZ unlock like I did on ICS... I guess I'll wait for a recovery flashable file.
What OTA?
cammykool said:
What OTA?
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4.1.2 ota being pushed starting today. According to Google+
Is this basically the same thing as the VRBMA2 leak?
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Is this basically the same thing as the VRBMA2 leak?
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Yes, it's a final version of VRBMA2 leak which is VRBMB1
Damn.... on the day i root... oh well glad i did!
vzw probably blocked our current methods.
The OTA de-odexed is already posted courtesy of beanstown over here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2177798
I'm rooted, unlocked and custom recovery w/stock ROM (odex).
How do I get this update installed and keep root/unlocked/custom recovery in place?
Also want to keep Google Wallet working correctly.
lexluthor said:
I'm rooted, unlocked and custom recovery w/stock ROM (odex).
How do I get this update installed and keep root/unlocked/custom recovery in place?
Also want to keep Google Wallet working correctly.
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Download this and flash it through recovery once beanstown posts the links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2177798
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Download this and flash it through recovery once beanstown posts the links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2177798
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I'd rather have the odex version though. You think someone will post that?
OK I took it from cache. Does anyone remember what all I need to delete after I extract it so it doesn't update boot loader. Recovery for sure...here's where I am before i rezip
Hey im tryinna OTA update my One S its at Android Version 4.0.4 Sense 4.1 and i have an OTA ive had it for a while now. How could i update it and keep my root? Or if i install a higher version custom rom will it brick my phone?
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Br00talBean said:
Hey im tryinna OTA update my One S its at Android Version 4.0.4 Sense 4.1 and i have an OTA ive had it for a while now. How could i update it and keep my root? Or if i install a higher version custom rom will it brick my phone?
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not sure what you mean with your last sentence... but:
in my case the ota deleted my root. but I also recommend to do a factory reset after updating to 4.1 sense 4+, just to be sure that you have a clean jb rom (do titanium backups of your apps you wanna keep).
but you have to be on stock recovery if you want to apply the ota.
after your update you can root your phone again.
applying the ota wont have any effect on flashing a higher / newer custom rom.
you only have to be unlocked and on custom recovery. but you alawys have to flash the boot.img of the custom rom after flashing the custom rom zip.
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not sure what you mean with your last sentence... but:
in my case the ota deleted my root. but I also recommend to do a factory reset after updating to 4.1 sense 4+, just to be sure that you have a clean jb rom (do titanium backups of your apps you wanna keep).
but you have to be on stock recovery if you want to apply the ota.
after your update you can root your phone again.
applying the ota wont have any effect on flashing a higher / newer custom rom.
you only have to be unlocked and on custom recovery. but you alawys have to flash the boot.img of the custom rom after flashing the custom rom zip.
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My bad i wasnt even payin attention to what i was typing and im still pretty much a noob at Root stuff so please bear with me lmao
Lets say i try to flash a 4.2.2. Rom even though im originally at 4.0.4. Would it brick my phone?
So would stock recovery be the stock rom i still hqve after rooting? I havent applied any custom roms at all since ive rooted
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My bad i wasnt even payin attention to what i was typing and im still pretty much a noob at Root stuff so please bear with me lmao
Lets say i try to flash a 4.2.2. Rom even though im originally at 4.0.4. Would it brick my phone?
So would stock recovery be the stock rom i still hqve after rooting? I havent applied any custom roms at all since ive rooted
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the rom you want to flash doesnt care about your previous rom, because you wiped your previous rom.
so it really doesnt matter which rom you have before if you want to flash a new rom.
its like.. you have installed windows xp, then format your hdd and install windows 7, windows 7 doesnt take a --- about the old os
recovery and rom are two different parts.
you can stock recovery and custom rom, you can have custom recovery and custom rom, you can have stock recovery and stock rom.. blaaa
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the rom you want to flash doesnt care about your previous rom, because you wiped your previous rom.
so it really doesnt matter which rom you have before if you want to flash a new rom.
its like.. you have installed windows xp, then format your hdd and install windows 7, windows 7 doesnt take a --- about the old os
recovery and rom are two different parts.
you can stock recovery and custom rom, you can have custom recovery and custom rom, you can have stock recovery and stock rom.. blaaa
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Oooh okay i get what youre saying. Soo recovery and the rom are two different things. I can upgrade to whatever gigher version i want. What about the OTA? If i upgrade to higher version custom rom will the OTA icon go away?
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Br00talBean said:
Oooh okay i get what youre saying. Soo recovery and the rom are two different things. I can upgrade to whatever gigher version i want. What about the OTA? If i upgrade to higher version custom rom will the OTA icon go away?
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after u have flashed a custom ROM, you wont get any OTA updates
Well, not from HTC anyways
Seraz007 said:
after u have flashed a custom ROM, you wont get any OTA updates
Well, not from HTC anyways
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Oooooooh okay i get it now wow haha so custom rom updates are the OTA pretty much once its flashed on there?
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Br00talBean said:
Oooooooh okay i get it now wow haha so custom rom updates are the OTA pretty much once its flashed on there?
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well no
but u can update and then Root
That way you'll have the OTA radio and hboot and the custom ROM