So rumor has it that nexus S would be getting the 4.1.2 update so I thought I'll ask this just in case.
Will I get an OTA notification running custom kernel?
If yes is it safe to apply it?.
If no will I be able to just flash it with CWM without losing data?
Thats all I want to know I know it would revert back to stock kernel and unroot the phone which is not a problem.
Thanks in advance.
Gambler_3 said:
So rumor has it that nexus S would be getting the 4.1.2 update so I thought I'll ask this just in case.
Will I get an OTA notification running custom kernel?
If yes is it safe to apply it?.
If no will I be able to just flash it with CWM without losing data?
Thats all I want to know I know it would revert back to stock kernel and unroot the phone which is not a problem.
Thanks in advance.
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No problem with the custom kernel. But it won't work with a custom ROM. When the update will flash, it will overwrite the kernel anyway.
polobunny said:
No problem with the custom kernel. But it won't work with a custom ROM. When the update will flash, it will overwrite the kernel anyway.
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Thanks exactly what i was thinking and yes I am not running custom rom.
And to add on the update will flash just fine if you do it manually with cwm. It won't it you if it gets pushed to your phone and you select install ota... that would require stock recovery.
Either way hold your horses. Code released into aosp doesn't mean a update is coming right away. It may take a while
albundy2010 said:
And to add on the update will flash just fine if you do it manually with cwm. It won't it you if it gets pushed to your phone and you select install ota... that would require stock recovery.
Either way hold your horses. Code released into aosp doesn't mean a update is coming right away. It may take a while
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So I just dont let it apply the OTA update? Does the phone get bricked if you do it without having stock recovery?
It's not really an issue though since if I get the OTA it will obviously be available as a flash zip as well by then. But I am curious to know what happens in that scenario.
Update fails. Reboot.
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My sensation is s-off. I want stock recovery. Can I get root without cwm? If I just download the su app from market?
Thanks.
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Nope, but if you don't like CWM you can restore back by doing this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1228648&highlight=OTA+stock
So I can flash cwm apply su/root then flash back stock recovery and I will get Ota updates with no problems?
Afaik, chances are good, that you'll get OTA updates, but I think you'll also lose root then.
hg3atintin said:
So I can flash cwm apply su/root then flash back stock recovery and I will get Ota updates with no problems?
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Yes, worked for me ALSO: Read it through the guide, and insure that you got everything ready, if something should go the other way
bubuthebear said:
Afaik, chances are good, that you'll get OTA updates, but I think you'll also lose root then.
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Nope, only if it is a brand new version, like the ICS, then you will loose it. But not if you change from gingerbread 2.3.4 to 2.3.5
TheStigx said:
Nope, only if it is a brand new version, like the ICS, then you will loose it. But not if you change from gingerbread 2.3.4 to 2.3.5
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My experience is, that one will have to reapply root, if he installs something from stock.
But maybe I did something wrong in the past
My experience with CWM has been nothing but good. You should just install that recovery. I think, in my opinion you would like it. I've had it on my HTC sensation for several months now. No issues
100% agree guys here have latest updates in there roms before any ota updates - you can be running ics now if u want . U can always go back to stock s-on later. I'm no techie but I would never go back unless I needed to for warrenty
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Hi all,
I'm sorry about my stupid question but I really don't know nothing about that . I had rooted and flashed my NS and installed the matr1x kernel (very good btw), and now I knew that JB will be available to NS. My question is, need I back to stock kernel to receive the update?
Thanks
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Gnng
You have to understand that installing an OTA (official update) on a rooted device regardless of what kernel can cause problems, as it did with my Nexus S before. I suggest you make a NANDroid backup at all times before you install any ROMs, official or Custom. You can also use Titanium backup and others.
There's still a slight while until the new JB 4.1 comes out. It's suggested that you install a Custom JB 4.1 ROM for your Nexus S as though you don't cause any problems. I think it's OK if you do it with the kernel pre-installed. But people always install the Custom ROM THEN they install the Kernel, I think installing a new ROM always overwrites the kernel, if it comes with it.
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In short, wait for the JB Custom ROM and you don't have to revert back to stock kernel, when you do the update it will automatically overwrite. Most Custom ROMs come with Stock/ordinary kernels. So then the user can flash whatever kernel they like in your case, matr1x.
Wish you the best of luck, and I am waiting for the Nexus S JB to come out as soon as possible
Ota binary patches the boot image iirc. So it can get all messed up.
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Yeah, what he said!
MДЯCЦSДИT said:
Ota binary patches the boot image iirc. So it can get all messed up.
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andezzat,
Thank you very much for the help.
andezzat said:
Gnng
You have to understand that installing an OTA (official update) on a rooted device regardless of what kernel can cause problems, as it did with my Nexus S before. I suggest you make a NANDroid backup at all times before you install any ROMs, official or Custom. You can also use Titanium backup and others.
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I didn't any backup before flashing a new kernel :crying:, so what can I do now if I want my stock kernel back?? What's a NANDroid (I know that is a tool but how can I do it?) ? Is Titanium bkp easily?
There's still a slight while until the new JB 4.1 comes out. It's suggested that you install a Custom JB 4.1 ROM for your Nexus S as though you don't cause any problems. I think it's OK if you do it with the kernel pre-installed. But people always install the Custom ROM THEN they install the Kernel, I think installing a new ROM always overwrites the kernel, if it comes with it.
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I prefer wait for stock JB Rom and probaby I'll , but, can I already find some JB ROM?
In short, wait for the JB Custom ROM and you don't have to revert back to stock kernel, when you do the update it will automatically overwrite. Most Custom ROMs come with Stock/ordinary kernels. So then the user can flash whatever kernel they like in your case, matr1x.
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I don't need to remove the kernel even unroot my cell, alright?
Thank you!!
Gnng said:
I didn't any backup before flashing a new kernel :crying:, so what can I do now if I want my stock kernel back?? What's a NANDroid (I know that is a tool but how can I do it?) ? Is Titanium bkp easily?
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A NANDroid backup is a internal memory backup. You can create one by booting into Recovery (Power off your phone and Hold Power and Down on your volume buttons.) If you rooted your phone and unlocked your bootloader (that's what you had to do to flash a new kernel), you should be able to load ClockworkMod or TeamWin Recovery and do a backup of your phone.
Gnng said:
I prefer wait for stock JB Rom and probaby I'll , but, can I already find some JB ROM?
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There's one rom but it's a port from the SDK and the amount of major bugs is high so it's not recommended but you could try another custom rom meanwhile, I can't go back to stock after trying custom roms, like AOKP and Cyanogenmod 9. Make sure you backup your apps and some settings (not everything will be compatible between stock and custom so pay close attention to which system setting you'll backup) with Titanium Backup.
To sum it all up for you
There's a Jelly Bean release which is unstable and has no sound, and will not be fixed until the REAL version comes out.
NANDroid backs up the whole internal memory on the phone including the system, it can be done from clockworkmod recovery.
Titanium backup, backs up specific settings and information that you choose, available from the playstore.
You don't need to unroot or go back to a STOCK kernel in order to flash a CUSTOM ROM. DO not however flash a STOCK rom after rooting, as at times that can cause problems.
If you want to go back to a STOCK ROM after rooting a device, there's a way, check this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1063664
and choose your Nexus S model: To acquire model, go to Settings - About - Baseband version. if it says I9023 at the start that's your Nexus S's model
Choose one of the Fastboot Stock ROMs and use the Fastboot method to flash the ROM. That is a good way to go back to STOCK ROM if anything bad happens
By the way you should expect the new OTA official 4.1 update for the Nexus S to be on your model's page.
NOTE: Using Fastboot to flash a ROM is very clean. However this will delete all your data and if you do everything correctly will lock your bootloader and unroot your phone. So use Fastboot only when you really feel the need to.
Cheers
and stay tuned for Jelly Bean :victory:
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To sum it all up for you
You don't need to unroot or go back to a STOCK kernel in order to flash a CUSTOM ROM. DO not however flash a STOCK rom after rooting, as at times that can cause problems.
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That means, when I receive the official 4.1 update notification, I should unroot my phone first and just install it after?
Gnng said:
That means, when I receive the official 4.1 update notification, I should unroot my phone first and just install it after?
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OK first off, do not install the update using the system update method from about, as that is a 100% stuff up if you're still rooted or on a Custom ROM.
However to update I think flashing a stock ROM but USING Clockworkmod works fine!
Someone please confirm, as I am not 100% sure
However what I am sure about is that if you run into any troubles installing your STOCK ROM using Fastboot is very very good and clean, however there are 2 things:
1. You will wipe everything COMPLETELY
2. You need the ROM to be in a fastboot format kind of way for you to flash it
There's a guide and everything for fastboot.
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Personally I will wait for a custom ROM for 4.1 if it doesn't take too long as that's guaranteed and will obviously be faster and safer to install on a ROOTED device.
Someone still confirm if installing Stock ROM while over Custom ROM while ROOTED through CWM is OK or not!?
Hummm, ok...
I'm already using the Stock ROM, I just flashed a new kernel, and I prefer install the stock kernel and unroot my phone. Just to let it clean.
After I install the JB official update, maybe I flash and root again, depends of Google :laugh:
Do you know where can I download a trust official 4.0.4 kernel from the forums? My phone is a Nexus S I9020AUCKJ1, Version Number: IMM76D
Thanks!!!
I installed this thing here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781327&page=13, hoping that I'll get my CRT screen off animation back. Unfortunately, I didn't and I now want to go back to my stock Jelly Bean. Any way I can do that?
Here
Flashable via CWM.
Thanks a lot. I get official updates running that?
As long as you don't change the kernel, you should be good to go. Just flash the ROM and none of the other stuff.
chronophase1 said:
As long as you don't change the kernel, you should be good to go. Just flash the ROM and none of the other stuff.
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i think its deodexed and will not receive otas ... but here you go...just made this thread . http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1807861
it will return yout phone to jb factory state unrooted with stock recovery and all...you need the drivers . good luck
I did install galaxy nexus sounds and my phone is rooted, so that means i won't get any OTA's?
Root doesn't matter.
If you installed the sounds with a flashable zip then when you're actually pushed a ota it will fail to install automatically because of the custom recovery. It will install manually though as long as the ota doesn't check the stock roms sounds. Not sure if it does but you can just look in the updater script in a ota and look to see if it checks for the sounds.
I am rooted and unlocked running Cleanrom ULE 1.2
I know I will not get any more OTA updates so what will the procedure be in the future for updating, should Asus bring out a OTA update?
maxal said:
I am rooted and unlocked running Cleanrom ULE 1.2
I know I will not get any more OTA updates so what will the procedure be in the future for updating, should Asus bring out a OTA update?
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Once you unlocked, you can't use OTA anymore. You just have to use custom recovery to flash. The question is are you going to flash custom rom or factory update? Also since you're on custom rom, you probably going to flash another cleanrom?
buhohitr said:
Once you unlocked, you can't use OTA anymore. You just have to use custom recovery to flash. The question is are you going to flash custom rom or factory update? Also since you're on custom rom, you probably going to flash another cleanrom?
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I would still like to flash any future factory updates just to see what they are like before making a backup and then reverting back to a custom rom.
maxal said:
I would still like to flash any future factory updates just to see what they are like before making a backup and then reverting back to a custom rom.
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OK, then you will have to flash it manually and you need a full version of the update (download from Asus site, usually 2-3 days later after the OTA release). You can't flash the OTA version on top of your custom rom.
buhohitr said:
OK, then you will have to flash it manually and you need a full version of the update (download from Asus site, usually 2-3 days later after the OTA release). You can't flash the OTA version on top of your custom rom.
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So would I flash it over the top of my backup of stockrom+root.
maxal said:
So would I flash it over the top of my backup of stockrom+root.
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yes, as long as you have pure stock with root, you could flash right over it, but remember, if you flash the full version from Asus site, everything is gone, all your download apps, root etc...(just like a factory reset).
buhohitr said:
yes, as long as you have pure stock with root, you could flash right over it, but remember, if you flash the full version from Asus site, everything is gone, all your download apps, root etc...(just like a factory reset).
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Ok thanks.
Haven't seen anyone post about this (even after doing a Google search), but Verizon has started sending out the OTA today. My question is this: since my bootloader in unlocked, and I'm rooted, can I restore back to my stock ROM and take the update? Is there a possibility that I'd completely lose root? Obviously I'd lose superuser and such, but would it replace my bootloader and custom recovery?
Thanks in advance for any helpful replies. I've been around android for a while now, but I'm new to Samsung phones, and how the bootloaders work. (I'm used to HTC where you S-OFF and you're good to go)
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Haven't seen anyone post about this (even after doing a Google search), but Verizon has started sending out the OTA today. My question is this: since my bootloader in unlocked, and I'm rooted, can I restore back to my stock ROM and take the update?
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Yup, you can restore back to stock (via nandroid or Odin) and take the update. You should switch back your recovery if you restore a stock nandroid though.
Is there a possibility that I'd completely lose root? Obviously I'd lose superuser and such, but would it replace my bootloader and custom recovery?
Thanks in advance for any helpful replies. I've been around android for a while now, but I'm new to Samsung phones, and how the bootloaders work. (I'm used to HTC where you S-OFF and you're good to go)
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You answered your question, if you lose SU, you lose root. Verizon OTA's will replace your bootloader and custom recovery if you force the install to take through your custom recovery. It should fail initially but I've read around that folks installed the OTA in recovery.
I'll check my wife's phone tonight. If she gets the ota I will pull it from the cache and extract the boot loader and recovery and rezip it and see if it will flash via twrp
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Yup, you can restore back to stock (via nandroid or Odin) and take the update. You should switch back your recovery if you restore a stock nandroid though.
You answered your question, if you lose SU, you lose root. Verizon OTA's will replace your bootloader and custom recovery if you force the install to take through your custom recovery. It should fail initially but I've read around that folks installed the OTA in recovery.
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Ok thanks for the reply. What do you mean by switch back my recovery? I'm currently on TWRP which is what I rooted with, and I've been using it since. I just want a completely untampered stock OTA of the latest OTA.
tylerlawhon said:
Ok thanks for the reply. What do you mean by switch back my recovery? I'm currently on TWRP which is what I rooted with, and I've been using it since. I just want a completely untampered stock OTA of the latest OTA.
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I mean, the OTA will fail if you just try to accept it right now. It would also fail if you switched back to your stock nandroid because you still have TWRP installed too. That's how its always been. Switching to the stock recovery, you could use EZ Recovery to do so, would resolve that.
I've read that you can still have a custom recovery installed and successfully take the OTA with a custom recovery installed but idk the exact steps to take to make this happen. Since I have no need for accepting OTA's I try to learn from what people post here.
Edit: Seems my OTA/custom recovery inquiry has been answered pretty thoroughly here (post #10). You could try those steps if you desire too.
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I mean, the OTA will fail if you just try to accept it right now. It would also fail if you switched back to your stock nandroid because you still have TWRP installed too. That's how its always been. Switching to the stock recovery, you could use EZ Recovery to do so, would resolve that.
I've read that you can still have a custom recovery installed and successfully take the OTA with a custom recovery installed but idk the exact steps to take to make this happen. Since I have no need for accepting OTA's I try to learn from what people post here.
Edit: Seems my OTA/custom recovery inquiry has been answered pretty thoroughly here (post #10). You could try those steps if you desire too.
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Hmmm sounds interesting. I doubt I'd be able to use EZ unlock like I did on ICS... I guess I'll wait for a recovery flashable file.
What OTA?
cammykool said:
What OTA?
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4.1.2 ota being pushed starting today. According to Google+
Is this basically the same thing as the VRBMA2 leak?
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Is this basically the same thing as the VRBMA2 leak?
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Yes, it's a final version of VRBMA2 leak which is VRBMB1
Damn.... on the day i root... oh well glad i did!
vzw probably blocked our current methods.
The OTA de-odexed is already posted courtesy of beanstown over here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2177798
I'm rooted, unlocked and custom recovery w/stock ROM (odex).
How do I get this update installed and keep root/unlocked/custom recovery in place?
Also want to keep Google Wallet working correctly.
lexluthor said:
I'm rooted, unlocked and custom recovery w/stock ROM (odex).
How do I get this update installed and keep root/unlocked/custom recovery in place?
Also want to keep Google Wallet working correctly.
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Download this and flash it through recovery once beanstown posts the links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2177798
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Download this and flash it through recovery once beanstown posts the links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2177798
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I'd rather have the odex version though. You think someone will post that?
OK I took it from cache. Does anyone remember what all I need to delete after I extract it so it doesn't update boot loader. Recovery for sure...here's where I am before i rezip