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DO NOT FLASH A NEW RUU OR OFFICIAL ROM IMAGE UNLESS YOU *REALLY* KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING !
The title says it all!
Doktaphex said:
As the title suggests, this is warning against flashing the new RUU_Ace_HTC_WWE_1.72.405.3_R_Radio_12.28e.60.140f_ 26.04.02.17_M2_release. It contains a new version of HBoot that breaks root and standard S-OFF! Please refer to these threads for more info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=879375
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=875099
You may be safe if you have full radio S-OFF and SuperCID but this is unconfirmed, and I would steer well clear until the DEVs have cracked open this latest HBoot.
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Confirmed:
Only if you have full radio S-OFF you can 'downgrade' to 1.32xxxxxx and root
Yes, I can confirm that, too. You have to have Super-CID (Radio S-OFF) to downgrade. Rooting is not possible in this new one. Yet.
Can please someone explain me what's the real difference between ENG S OFF But CID 11111 and SHIP S OFF and CID HTC....?
ENG S-OFF: It is engineering bootloader S-OFF (may include Radio S-OFF). Allows custom bootloader commands, for example radio flashing, also allows to install custom roms.
SHIP S-OFF: Radio S-OFF, does not allow radio flashing, but allows ClockworkMod flashing. Usually comes together with SuperCID.
CID 11111111: Super-CID, Super Carrier ID, allows you to downgrade, and flash really anything to the phone without the phone saying "no thanks".
CID HTC__xxx: HTC Carrier ID, does not allow downgrading via RUU, but you can still flash through ClockworkMod if you are S-OFF.
Thank you very much for this answer..I ask because i cannot find this information somewhere in one post!
I am with ENG S-OFF and CID 11111111
So i can flash the new RUU and i am able to revert back to 1.32xxxxxx and root again.Correct?
Looks like its been rooted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9936625&postcount=91
At least it has if you flash just the system.img
Yeah but it needs clockworkmod, which goes away if people use the actual RUU. Also flashing system.img does not replace the bootloader, so S-OFF stays in fine (also hboot S-OFF).
How can you tell what your CID is?
madindehead said:
How can you tell what your CID is?
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Bootloader > Fastboot > System Info (or something like that)
If you are SuperCID then it is 11111111 if not, then it begins with HTC_xxxx
looks like also this RUU_Ace_Orange_ES_1.75.75.2_Radio_12.28e.60.140f_2 6.04.02.17_M2_release also seems to stop you gaining root and fix's patched Hboot as someone saying he flashed the rom and can't gain root.
joners said:
Looks like its been rooted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9936625&postcount=91
At least it has if you flash just the system.img
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can you tell how to extract the system.img from rom?
all i get is a [0] file. dont know what to do with it.
[HOW TO SAFELY FLASH THE NEW ROM AND BE ABLE TO REVERT BACK]
Currently, the new ROM (1.72.405.3) has a new HBOOT (so you can't install ENG HBOOT S-OFF) and is difficult to root (not as simple as it is with previous ROMs). However, it also has a better radio, and a faster ROM with various bugfixes. This ROM is also Android Froyo v2.21. If you want to try out the new ROM, whilst maintaining the ability to 'revert' back to your older, hackable state then follow the below instructions carefully. Also, do not worry about extracting system.img files and whatnot.
*It is recommended to do a NANDROID BACKUP first
*All RUUs can be obtained from www.xdafil.es/DesireHD/RUU/
*If you don't do steps 1-3 properly and flash the new ROM, you will not be able to revert back
*Radio S-OFF and SuperCID can be obtained by following instructions in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537
*Tutorial for flashing RUUs (needed for steps 4 & 8): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=841890
1. Install Radio S-OFF (NOT ENG HBOOT S-OFF) and SuperCID
2. Go to bootloader, then System Info. (If System Info is not there, but you have SHIP S-OFF skip step 3 and proceed to step 4)
3. Make sure CID is 11111111 *AND* the bootloader shows S-OFF. If not, repeat step 1
4. You can now flash the new ROM (1.72.405.3)
5. This will remove ENG HBOOT (if you had it) and ClockworkMod
6. If you did steps 1-3 correctly, your Desire HD should still be S-OFF. Go to bootloader and check. If not, you did not do steps 1-3 correctly and will have to wait for the new HBOOT to be cracked.
When you are done with the new ROM and want to go back, follow the instructions below:
7. Download the HTC RUU 1.32.405.6 of your choice (Since you are SuperCID you can flash any RUU)
8. Flash it to your Desire HD
9. Root your ROM using Visionary, and install ROM Manager and flash ClockworkMod. You can optionally install ENG HBOOT S-OFF now if you like.
If you made a NANDROID Backup, you can restore this now from ClockworkMod
joners said:
Looks like its been rooted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9936625&postcount=91
At least it has if you flash just the system.img
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I can't get this to work myself, unfortunately.
joners said:
Looks like its been rooted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9936625&postcount=91
At least it has if you flash just the system.img
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I have this working. The supplied .zip file does not include Superuser.apk. After following the instructions and then installing Superuser from the market I now have root on this rom.
Look forward to testing it over the next couple of days while I lay in hope of some custom roms based off this version.
EDIT: Superuser keeps force closing
My bootloader says
ACE PVT ENG S-OFF
HBOOT-0.85 2007 (PD9810000)
and system info says
CID-11111111
Am I good to go or shall I do something else?
Thank you for sharing info.
doh!
being used to the days of winmo I flashed this rom over my cyanogen taking a backup first.
Now I can't revert back to the old stock rom, any way of doing this (easily ish)?
Hi, I'm ENG S-Off but my CID is not 1111111, what's the safest way to do the Super-CID?
I'm stucked abroad using a **** phone cos I can't use another sim in my DHD
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk on Revolution 1. 92
ninja.rogue said:
My bootloader says
ACE PVT ENG S-OFF
HBOOT-0.85 2007 (PD9810000)
and system info says
CID-11111111
Am I good to go or shall I do something else?
Thank you for sharing info.
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Also on the same boat...
Anyone??
ninja.rogue said:
My bootloader says
ACE PVT ENG S-OFF
HBOOT-0.85 2007 (PD9810000)
and system info says
CID-11111111
Am I good to go or shall I do something else?
Thank you for sharing info.
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looks like you are, you have superCID.
Hi,
My sensation is perm rooted, Ship S-Off and supercid-ed.
I read from some posts that we need ENG S-Off to be able to flash radio.
No wish to ENG S-off for now.
So my question is:
If i want to flash custom roms that comes with a different radio as my current, do i need ENG-Off ?
This is my 1st post and appreciate any help on this matter.
Thank you.
If you have the Revolutionary HBOOT then no as it's already good enough to do it. However, flashing a radio doesn't need ENG S-OFF at all as it's a ZIP file that you flash via HBOOT - get the radio you want to use from the Radio thread
EddyOS said:
If you have the Revolutionary HBOOT then no as it's already good enough to do it. However, flashing a radio doesn't need ENG S-OFF at all as it's a ZIP file that you flash via HBOOT - get the radio you want to use from the Radio thread
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thx Eddy for your reply ... tot no one would bother to answer a noob
i have the revolutionary hboot ...
So what is the purpose of " ENG S-Off " then ?
I have searched posts on this matter but some of them comes in conflicting explanations.
It was the 'official' version of the Revolutionary HBOOT - giving users the fastboot commands.
As Revolutionary have now cracked this it's not needed. I personally prefer to use the ENG HBOOT as I don't like the pink Revolutionary banner!!
EddyOS said:
It was the 'official' version of the Revolutionary HBOOT - giving users the fastboot commands.
As Revolutionary have now cracked this it's not needed. I personally prefer to use the ENG HBOOT as I don't like the pink Revolutionary banner!!
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oic ...
didn't know this .... not mentioned in any of the posts i have read ...
given a thanks to u .... thanx
Hi I have just got a Desire S and its on H Boot 2.00.0002
Now I have looked at this guide- {GUIDE} Root Desire S hboot 2.00.0002 android 2.3.5 the easy way
and i am still un clear as to whether this will S-off the Desire S or is there a better way?
Any pointers for me would be good thanks
Nexus04
Nexus04 said:
Hi I have just got a Desire S and its on H Boot 2.00.0002
Now I have looked at this guide- {GUIDE} Root Desire S hboot 2.00.0002 android 2.3.5 the easy way
and i am still un clear as to whether this will S-off the Desire S or is there a better way?
Any pointers for me would be good thanks
Nexus04
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You need S-OFF if you want to change the hboot/bootloader or the radio. SInce you have the latest versions of both it is not necessary at this moment. In you need to S-OFF by any reason it is possible via downgrading to older version that is supported by Revolutionary.
If you unlock the bootloader with HTCDev.com you will remain S-ON but will have the ability to flash custom Recovery, Kernel or ROMs and rooting as well. So basically you have the freedom to change your system according to your preferences
Hi thanks for the reply,
so it`s not neccessary to S-off to be able to root the phone? I will do some more reading before I take the plunge as I do not want to brick my new phone
Cheers Nexus04
Nexus04 said:
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so it`s not neccessary to S-off to be able to root the phone? ...
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Exactly.
Basically you will need to unlock your hboot at htcdev.com, then flash a custom recovery then
1) flash Superuser to have root or
2) flash a custom ROM, they are all prerooted
amidabuddha said:
Exactly.
Basically you will need to unlock your hboot at htcdev.com, then flash a custom recovery then
1) flash Superuser to have root or
2) flash a custom ROM, they are all prerooted
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What about relocking hboot?
Thanks for your input into this thread by the way, I was led to believe according to the guide section that you must be s-off (therefore downgrade from 2.00.0002) in order to flash custom roms.
dontjudgemekk said:
What about relocking hboot?
Thanks for your input into this thread by the way, I was led to believe according to the guide section that you must be s-off (therefore downgrade from 2.00.0002) in order to flash custom roms.
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AFAK re-locking the bootloader is necessary only when you want to run a RUU (to restore the Stock configuration if needed)
amidabuddha said:
AFAK re-locking the bootloader is necessary only when you want to run a RUU (to restore the Stock configuration if needed)
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Just in case I was to send my device for a warranty fix or such!
Unlocking the bootloader at htcdev will void your warranty.
I am patiently waiting for May 2012 for my warranty to be over and then I will unlock my boot loader..
As said the htcdev unlock void your warranty, it will send the info of your phone to HTC.
You can do the HBOOT downgrade http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399331 and use Revolutionary to get S-OFF and if you need the warranty you can use eng hboot and flash a new RUU to get back to stock and S-ON.
amidabuddha said:
You need S-OFF if you want to change the hboot/bootloader or the radio. SInce you have the latest versions of both it is not necessary at this moment. In you need to S-OFF by any reason it is possible via downgrading to older version that is supported by Revolutionary.
If you unlock the bootloader with HTCDev.com you will remain S-ON but will have the ability to flash custom Recovery, Kernel or ROMs and rooting as well. So basically you have the freedom to change your system according to your preferences
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please will someone guide me how to flash custom recovery.
i have s-on, bootloader unlock htcdev and boot h2.00.0002.
i'm new to to desire s , previous hd2 owner,
thank you.
riaan0010 said:
please will someone guide me how to flash custom recovery.
i have s-on, bootloader unlock htcdev and boot h2.00.0002.
i'm new to to desire s , previous hd2 owner,
thank you.
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Check the sticky posts on DesireS forums, you will find all you need
Swyped from my Desire S
Let the ads those who succeeded in HBoot Revolucionary 6.98.1002 S-OFF to get back to Hboot 2.00.0002 S-ON.
Some write to read this post and this post, last but nothing concrete.
Thank you.
I have been searched the method too s-on my desire s
but there are no answer for me
i have read this thread:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1187231
but the thread has been closed.
so i dont have any idea for s-on my device
i use the Revolutionary method to s-off
plz help me
Flash eng hboot 0.98.2000, then run the latest RUU.
If you want to flash a older RUU you may need to change your misc version.
Keep looking cause there are threads.
Hi there
My Desire S is currently Unlocked and S-On(HTC Dev) with HBoot 2.00.002 and radio 3822.10.08.04.
I've been using the Desire XS Rom with Amidabuddha's Tweaked 3 X kernel. I've been experiencing the camera issue with this ROM and the dev recommends that you upgrade the radio and hboot.
My problem stands with the fact that I can't upgrade them with S-On. I've searched and found no definitive explanations as how to do this. Could you please give me directions to follow as I can't brick this phone !
You can't change radio or HBOOT with S-ON.
You can install RUU that includes the newer radio and HBOOT, and then unlock again and install custom ROM again.
This should be enough info.
AW: [Q] Changing Radio with S-on ?
You have to be s-Off first.
You can't change your radio or hboot version with s-on, only way to do it would be to achieve s-off by xtc-clip or downgrade
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Well i see we all saw this at the same time
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—Jean Rostand
Thanks, guys.
DieLyn said:
Thanks, guys.
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Try and get used to clicking their thanks button, not only the people that help you but the devs who's roms you'll be using and the people that compile all the indexes and help guides that will help you get the most out of your phone
My pessimism extends to the point of even suspecting the sincerity of the pessimists.
—Jean Rostand
jugg1es said:
Try and get used to clicking their thanks button, not only the people that help you but the devs who's roms you'll be using and the people that compile all the indexes and help guides that will help you get the most out of your phone
My pessimism extends to the point of even suspecting the sincerity of the pessimists.
—Jean Rostand
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I normally do.
Could someone please show me a link to an RUU with the HBoot and Radio as mentioned above ? Can't seem to find them in the index and HTC Dev is down.
Jack_R1 said:
You can't change radio or HBOOT with S-ON.
You can install RUU that includes the newer radio and HBOOT, and then unlock again and install custom ROM again.
This should be enough info.
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Would this require me relocking my Hboot ?
EDIT :
So from quite a bit of searching, this is what I think I need to do...
1. Relock bootloader. From this thread I see that you relock the bootloader with "fastboot oem lock" ?
2. Install an RUU with Hboot 0.98.00000. I need a link to this.
3. Unlock and S-Off the device using Revolutionary.
From here, I'm a bit lost as to how to proceed to get to Hboot 2.00.2002 and radio 3831.19.00.110.
Are my above steps correct ? Normally, I'm not so lost with these things, its just a bit confusing especially because I'm stuck with S-On and hboot 2.00.0002.
AW: [Q] Changing Radio with S-on ?
DieLyn said:
Would this require me relocking my Hboot ?
EDIT :
So from quite a bit of searching, this is what I think I need to do...
1. Relock bootloader. From this thread I see that you relock the bootloader with "fastboot oem lock" ?
2. Install an RUU with Hboot 0.98.00000. I need a link to this.
3. Unlock and S-Off the device using Revolutionary.
From here, I'm a bit lost as to how to proceed to get to Hboot 2.00.2002 and radio 3831.19.00.110.
Are my above steps correct ? Normally, I'm not so lost with these things, its just a bit confusing especially because I'm stuck with S-On and hboot 2.00.0002.
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Nearly correct, just you'll have to use misc_version to change the software version reported by the phone before the ruu will install. Getting hold of an RUU could be the most difficult step at the moment, though.
Try this for RUUs http://www.tsar3000.com/Joomla/inde...-stock-roms&catid=65:htc-downloads&Itemid=107
My pessimism extends to the point of even suspecting the sincerity of the pessimists.
—Jean Rostand