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I did the one click root and s-off method. Iv flashed a few roms they all work fine. A few of them have wifi signal problems so i want to try different radios. They say you need eng s-off correct? Not radio s-off? Well this is my real question, in bootloader it says at the top,"ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF RL". So which is it? Radio s-off or eng s-off? Thanks for any help.

BAleR said:
I did the one click root and s-off method. Iv flashed a few roms they all work fine. A few of them have wifi signal problems so i want to try different radios. They say you need eng s-off correct? Not radio s-off? Well this is my real question, in bootloader it says at the top,"ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF RL". So which is it? Radio s-off or eng s-off? Thanks for any help.
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I think most people would agree unless you are positive you know what your doing...eng s-off is not a good idea. Pretty much any radio you would want to flash can be flashed with just radio s-off....it just has to be in a zip named PD98IMG.zip and pretty much all the radios in this forum can be found in that format.

BAleR said:
I did the one click root and s-off method. Iv flashed a few roms they all work fine. A few of them have wifi signal problems so i want to try different radios. They say you need eng s-off correct? Not radio s-off? Well this is my real question, in bootloader it says at the top,"ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF RL". So which is it? Radio s-off or eng s-off? Thanks for any help.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14293652&postcount=928
Check that out. It has a radio packaged in it and instructions on how to install it. And my understanding is that whatever radio you want to install, you can take that radio.img and place it in that zip to replace that radio.img that is in it. Somebody correct me if I am wrong please.
EDIT: Here is another thread with instructions on how to flash a radio WITHOUT eng s-off
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002226

So is it eng? Or radio s-off?
And im running androidrevolution 5.1.9 and i downloaded the radio from that thread but i dont have access to a conputer to zip it and check it correctly, nor can i find the correct ziped version could somebody possibly do this for me? And the ril file? I think the radio for that rom is 12.54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2 thanks guys!

BAleR said:
So is it eng? Or radio s-off?
And im running androidrevolution 5.1.9 and i downloaded the radio from that thread but i dont have access to a conputer to zip it and check it correctly, nor can i find the correct ziped version could somebody possibly do this for me? And the ril file? I think the radio for that rom is 12.54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2 thanks guys!
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If the radio is flashable via hboot, the thread where you found the radio should say that. The file must be named pd98img.zip for hboot to find it. When you flash a radio this way, you only need the s-off you already have (based on what your bootloader screen says). You do not need eng-off. You are good to go. You should not be zipping anything yourself...
PS Just use the stock ATT radio. There is a thread or two with the pd98img.zip that contains the radio and the ril.

Ok, i have the latest ota already, i did the wifi update before i did the one click, i guess all i need now is the matching rl from the radio i mentioned in my op

Someone just started a new thread for inspire radios. He said he will update it every Friday with radios an the matching ril for each radio.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using Tapatalk

Step 1: Find your HBoot flashable PD98IMG.zip file including a radio inside of it, which is compatible with your phone and has been tested and find its md5sum. Make sure that your not downloading a radio.img but a PD98IMG which you always will find here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002226
Step 2: Check the md5sum on your computer (if your running windows google md5checker or something similar) match them and move it to your sdcard, but NOT in a folder.
Step 3: Check the md5sum again but from your inspire, i use hashdroid personally but theres a terminal command also. Once it matches up you are safe and ready to go, but remember you can't be to safe flashing radio's.
Step 4: Hold down Vol- & Power while phone is off and fastboot is NOT on loading yourself into hboot, next is the suspenseful part (unless you did all the steps above correctly) let it sit for a second and it will load the zip on your sdcard later prompting you to vol+ or - for yes/no select yes if you feel safe and it will flash the radio.
Step 5: Attempt to successfully boot into your current rom and then check the radio firmware by going to menu>Settings>About>Software i believe or something close.
Congratulations you've made it through easily and painlessly without needing to bother with Eng-Off.
Thank Shad0wf0x for this method as i learned from his and attn1's help through alot of irc chatting when i first got my inspire, which was also my first android/ios phone.

BAleR said:
I did the one click root and s-off method. Iv flashed a few roms they all work fine. A few of them have wifi signal problems so i want to try different radios. They say you need eng s-off correct? Not radio s-off? Well this is my real question, in bootloader it says at the top,"ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF RL". So which is it? Radio s-off or eng s-off? Thanks for any help.
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I don't think anyone has answered the question that he asked. He want to know if he has radio s-off or eng s-off if his bootloader screen said,"ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF RL". Answer is you have radio s-off so you can flash roms via recovery but not radios. Everyone here is just telling you that the eng s-off is not a good idea in order to flash radios and pointing you to posts that shows you how to install radios by using PD98IMG method. I used this post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1106324). All the radios are already named PD98IMG.zip, so all you have to do is place it in your sd card and use Hboot to install it. Also it has correct ril files for the radio that you can flash from cwm recovery (make sure you go to mounts and storage screen and mount/system before you flash ril files when you are in recovery).

I had the same question, now I have both radio and eng s-off, you have to use the eng s-off tool...theres a turoial (to get eng s-off).....

where i can find original htc hboot 1.17.0011 s-off

hello
i wanna flash the original htc hboot 1.17.0011 s-off .
where i can find it ?
thanks

do you mean the ENG H-BOOT?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122053&highlight=eng+hboot

No,ENG S-OFF is 008.You can flash the original hboot 0011 from an official rom via fastboot
Sent from my greatest Sensation 4G running LeeDrOiD

I take it you keep the S-OFF doing that? I'm using the ENG S-OFF but is there really any advantage to it bar a few extra HBOOT commands?
EDIT: The HBOOT from the 1.35.401.1 RUU isn't an IMG file - can it still be flashed?
hboot_Pyramid_8x60_1.17.0011_20110602_signedbyaa.nb0

EddyOS said:
I take it you keep the S-OFF doing that? I'm using the ENG S-OFF but is there really any advantage to it bar a few extra HBOOT commands?
EDIT: The HBOOT from the 1.35.401.1 RUU isn't an IMG file - can it still be flashed?
hboot_Pyramid_8x60_1.17.0011_20110602_signedbyaa.nb0
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yes you can rename it as hboot.img and flash it via fastboot..I prefer you guys to use revolutionary,which enabled fastboot and version higher than eng(eng is the same as 1.17.0008)
Sent from my greatest Sensation 4G running LeeDrOiD

but how we know its s-off ?

pr0x2 said:
I have made this myself.
http://www.multiupload.com/UQ37K5ZGCQ
Download,rename to PG58IMG,put in root of SD,go to bootloader it will ask for update. Say yes to update, You will have 1.17.0011 after the update.
Worked for me.
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Work for me to to

PandaKiller said:
Work for me to to
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its S-OFF ?

S-OFF isn't affected by flashing an HBOOT (I don't think). I'll try it now and let you know

jerrylzy said:
yes you can rename it as hboot.img and flash it via fastboot..I prefer you guys to use revolutionary,which enabled fastboot and version higher than eng(eng is the same as 1.17.0008)
Sent from my greatest Sensation 4G running LeeDrOiD
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Only reason I used the ENG S-OFF was to get rid of the 'Revolutionary' banner at the top - like it to look OEM

now i have ship HBoot: 1.17.0011 s-off

i will try now the performance on the phone

Yeah, flashed it on mine and still S-OFF

Please share the file. Thank you.
joolz sensation

*** PLEASE DO A NANDROID BEFORE TRYING THIS ***
HBOOT 1.17.0011
http://www.multiupload.com/G842HEM3C1
1. Extract ZIP file
2. Flash via fastboot using command:
fastboot flash hboot hboot.img
3. The run:
fastboot reboot-bootloader
4. Then run:
fastboot erase cache
5. Turn phone off and then back on again

vladnosferatu said:
hello
i wanna flash the original htc hboot 1.17.0011 s-off .
where i can find it ?
thanks
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Why do you need it ? Did you have S-OFFed your Sensation?
Do you know how flash a PG85IMG.ZIP into the NAND in your Sensation?
I have a image file which included hboot ver 1.17.0011 PVT SHIP S-OFF attached below.
Are you sure you need it?
It maybe brick your phone, the risks and responsibilities all are yours when you flash your phone! This HBOOT only tested on my HTC Sensation!

There has only been one eng hboot leaked and it's .0008
Flash a stock hboot onto a phone that is radio S-OFF and it will say SHIP S-OFF. Ship is stock and S-OFF, when ENG is not written, means radio S-OFF.
On previous HTC phones you could have ENG S-OFF without radio S-OFF, and the hboot would fool the radio into thinking that the phone was S-OFF even though it wasn't radio S-OFF. It's unlikely that would work with the Sensation unless the eng hboot was signed, and the one that has leaked isn't.
Revolutionary is a special kind of hboot. It still says SHIP in the bootloader but it's custom and has some extra fastboot commands (like 'fastboot flash'), so in many ways it acts like an eng hboot. So if you run Revolutionary, you get radio S-OFF and a custom hboot. Your phone will still be S-OFF after running a RUU but you'll overwrite the Revolutionary custom hboot with a stock one.

[Q] How to s-on my desire s?

I have been searched the method too s-on my desire s
but there are no answer for me
i have read this thread:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1187231
but the thread has been closed.
so i dont have any idea for s-on my device
i use the Revolutionary method to s-off
plz help me

Flash eng hboot 0.98.2000, then run the latest RUU.
If you want to flash a older RUU you may need to change your misc version.
Keep looking cause there are threads.

Hboot downgrade

Actually i'm s-on and revolutionary is not working with hboot version 1.27.0000. I want to downgrade hboot version to install a custom rom. And...... My cid isn't 11111111 so i cant install android 2.3.4 with hboot version who is accepted by revolutionary. Thanks !

Revolutionary doesnt support your hboot yet u will have to wait for an update
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio using XDA

razvanwin95 said:
Actually i'm s-on and revolutionary is not working with hboot version 1.27.0000. I want to downgrade hboot version to install a custom rom. And...... My cid isn't 11111111 so i cant install android 2.3.4 with hboot version who is accepted by revolutionary. Thanks !
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You can't downgrade your hboot with s-on. That really is common knowledge and if you weren't aware of that, I would suggest you do a lot more reading before attempting s-off anyway. I'm sorry to be a **** but you aren't ready.

I'm suggest you to wait until revo come out with the support for your HBOOT version

Hi. Try this method. Read first and if you have any further questions aks there.

joaquinf said:
Hi. Try this method. Read first and if you have any further questions aks there.
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This method is NOT for 1.27 hboot.

Isn't running a GB RUU enough to have everything back to a "S-OFFable" setting?
I used an "old" RUU to go back to a revolutionary compatible hboot on a friend of mine's Incredible S (hboot 2.0 to 1.13) and it worked... Is there something I don't know as the reason for this not to work on the Sensation (surely there is... )?

try to do tacoroot to access revolutionary maby it help

HBOOT 2.02 can S-OFF ??

Can I S-OFF the hboot 2.02 ??
I mean this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399331 will work for my HBOOT 2.02 ?

No, because zergRush won't work. You'll have to unlock your bootloader to gain any sort of root.
Edit: this guide would work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318919

To S-OFF you first have to downgrade to an older HBOOT, which is done by gaining some form of root, running misc_version and then an older RUU. After you're S-OFF you can put on a newer (S-OFFed) HBOOT if you don't want Revolutionary's default one.
As long as you're running gingerbread (i.e. Android 2.3.x, and not ICS which is 4.0.4), you can get temproot. See my signature for more information.

paulie-uk said:
To S-OFF you first have to downgrade to an older HBOOT, which is done by gaining some form of root, running misc_version and then an older RUU. After you're S-OFF you can put on a newer (S-OFFed) HBOOT if you don't want Revolutionary's default one.
As long as you're running gingerbread (i.e. Android 2.3.x, and not ICS which is 4.0.4), you can get temproot. See my signature for more information.
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S-OFF is something I too want to do to my HTC Desire S, looking in your signature you are running 2.00.2002.
I am on a newer HBOOT the 2.02.0002.
I understand you have to downgrade first, and then S-OFF, but after S-OFF can I then flash the ICS RUU and get it back to 2.02.0002?
Will it still say Revolutionary? or go back to saying Unlocked (As I am HTC DEV Unlocked).
My main concern is that I don't like the idea of having 0.98, on there after, or having a fake number 6.98 or 7.00.2000 etc.
There seems to be a lot of people still on 2.00.X and not on the 2.02.X.
Are you S-OFF paulie-uk?

readmanr said:
S-OFF is something I too want to do to my HTC Desire S, looking in your signature you are running 2.00.2002.
I am on a newer HBOOT the 2.02.0002.
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Are you S-OFF paulie-uk?
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I'm hboot S-OFF (what revolutionary can provide), not radio S-OFF (sadly the only way to do this on SAGA is with some extra equipment). I believe the 2.02.0002 hboot came in the ICS RUU, it's just got a bit tighter security, I don't think the partitions have changed since the last version (someone correct me if I'm wrong here).
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There seems to be a lot of people still on 2.00.X and not on the 2.02.X.
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I'm using an S-OFFed ENGineering hboot, where you see people on the other version (2.00.0002) it is (usually) the stock SHIP hboot.
readmanr said:
I understand you have to downgrade first, and then S-OFF
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You will have to downgrade. Sadly this will wipe your phone.
readmanr said:
but after S-OFF can I then flash the ICS RUU and get it back to 2.02.0002?
Will it still say Revolutionary? or go back to saying Unlocked (As I am HTC DEV Unlocked).
My main concern is that I don't like the idea of having 0.98, on there after, or having a fake number 6.98 or 7.00.2000 etc.
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After you're S-OFF, I'd suggest you try a custom ROM and not flashing the 4.0.4 RUU (it's a buggy experimental version). Flashing an official RUU is pretty much how you return to stock, so it would most likely overwrite your S-OFFed hboot with a S-ON stock one. Remember, the S-OFF on our device is done in the hboot and not the radio.
When you're S-OFFed the first hboot you will have will be Revolutionary's 6.98 one. You can change this after.
I've found that 2.00.2002 works with all of the ROMs I've tried (which have been based on gingerbread, ICS and JellyBean). The "fake number" ones are there to make flashing a S-ON hboot more difficult, meaning that an OTA update wouldn't undo it. However, it is quite obvious if you were to send your phone in for repairs (still in warranty!?!?!) which is why a few of the tech-savvy who want S-OFF put on the ENG hboots instead.
If you want to overwrite Revolutionary's hboot with a different one with a lower version number, you will need to use dd and if it goes wrong it will brick your phone. You can find the ENG hboots on cyannogenmod's wiki if you don't trust the files I provide in other posts, but I strongly suggest you read about what you're going to do until you're comfortable with it before taking action.
Remember that after changing a hboot or radio, you should always re-wipe and re-flash your phone as partitions can move and always check the md5 first.