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Hi all, after 2 years of modding my HD2 with wm6.5, wp7 and tons of android builds, I'm upgrading to a sensation. I've read a lot of the threads but it seems less straight forward to hack this phone. I think i understand it, is s-off like flashing the bootloader so i can root it?
elgrego4 said:
Hi all, after 2 years of modding my HD2 with wm6.5, wp7 and tons of android builds, I'm upgrading to a sensation. I've read a lot of the threads but it seems less straight forward to hack this phone. I think i understand it, is s-off like flashing the bootloader so i can root it?
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Hi,
I'm not sure which threads you have read,but THIS THREAD will take you through the four stages to get your phone ready to install any custom ROM.
That's a lot of stuff to do just to hack my phone, i remember it being so much easier. I need a bit of help, I have just moved house and dont have broadband. I can get all the downloads whilst at work but no connection at home to the revolution site. Is there any other way of getting s-off without a live internet connection?
elgrego4 said:
That's a lot of stuff to do just to hack my phone, i remember it being so much easier. I need a bit of help, I have just moved house and dont have broadband. I can get all the downloads whilst at work but no connection at home to the revolution site. Is there any other way of getting s-off without a live internet connection?
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Hi,
It seems like a lot, but it is no more than you did for the hd2.
I cannot see a way round the live connection. Revolution has to check the code it gives you.
You might have to wait till you get your broadband.
I feel so restricted with an unrooted orange branded phone.
Panic over, I had everything sdk and sync wise already from doing the hd2, I then got onto the web using usb tethering and after that everything is s-off, rooted, cwr and revolution HD rom installed. Im back in the game !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
elgrego4 said:
Panic over, I had everything sdk and sync wise already from doing the hd2, I then got onto the web using usb tethering and after that everything is s-off, rooted, cwr and revolution HD rom installed. Im back in the game !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hi,
Glad you sorted it out.
I notice you are using ARHD 3.6.8.
Please check my signature for a selection of new lockrings and battery % Mods.
Welcome to Sensation
elgrego4 said:
Hi all, after 2 years of modding my HD2 with wm6.5, wp7 and tons of android builds, I'm upgrading to a sensation. I've read a lot of the threads but it seems less straight forward to hack this phone. I think i understand it, is s-off like flashing the bootloader so i can root it?
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Many thanks to all involved, I and many others went from a handset incapable of delivering texts (sent to outbox!!) to the best phone (boy's toy) ever.
I followed a similar road to the above post. However I ended up with Tween's cm7 with Doriamnx's kernal. Loved the tablet tweeks as buttons were already replaced twice, and the cm7 advanced setings.
Can or will anyone make an educated guess to when I could get the sensation(xe) to this level of usability with cm7 or Senseless build.
Ta
olderbloke said:
Many thanks to all involved, I and many others went from a handset incapable of delivering texts (sent to outbox!!) to the best phone (boy's toy) ever.
I followed a similar road to the above post. However I ended up with Tween's cm7 with Doriamnx's kernal. Loved the tablet tweeks as buttons were already replaced twice, and the cm7 advanced setings.
Can or will anyone make an educated guess to when I could get the sensation(xe) to this level of usability with cm7 or Senseless build.
Ta
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Hi,
I take it you have not got a Sensation yet.
CM7 is still experimental and not fully developed .
ARHD,which I'm on,does have a senseless version,which people rate.
So there is hope for you yet.
malybru said:
Hi,
I take it you have not got a Sensation yet.
CM7 is still experimental and not fully developed .
ARHD,which I'm on,does have a senseless version,which people rate.
So there is hope for you yet.
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Had a sensation xe for a week now. So far S-off,cwm & rooted. With Orange Uk. all stock at the mo. Radio, kernal & rom. would like good camera over xmas. (something hd2 never quite cracked imo on Android).
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would like good camera over xmas. (something hd2 never quite cracked imo on Android).
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um, you shoud've bought the SGSII if you wanted to take better photos than the HD2 ; ) Only kidding, well, sort of. So far for me the biggest disappointment of the Sensation is the camera, especially indoors. It takes great macro shots in low light (even pitch black), but every other indoor shot I've taken has soooo much noise in it, even in well lit rooms. I'm not that impressed with photos taken outside either - doesn't feel like that much of a step up from the Leo to me, especially given the two year difference between them. Build quality, or perhaps quality of design is behind the Leo too. I've had to put four small pieces of Blu-tack inside to stop the creaking, LOL.
I'm still really enjoying it though.
Can either of you fellow Sensation Noobs see Nova 2 or Shadowgun in the Android Market? I can't. Via the web I just get an error saying my device is incompatible even though I know they'll run.
I got shadowgun from another market
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I got shadowgun from another market
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Yes, but what malware did it come with? I'd rather just buy it from the main Android Market and be done with it to be honest. Well, if I could!
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Yes, but what malware did it come with? I'd rather just buy it from the main Android Market and be done with it to be honest. Well, if I could!
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Try turning Fastboot off.
anyone still on cm7, passing on all current ICS roms, and waiting for CM9?
I've been using CM7 since it came out. I flashed virt. quatto just to see what ICS looks like, then went back to CM7.
post here if you are like me!
ive been waiting for a stable CM7 on the sensation for over a year now... CM7 alpha10 is pretty close but still not a daily driver.. i dont see a stable CM9 on our phones within the next year.. there are some good AOSP ICS roms though like Virtuous Inquisition which will have to do for now. ever since Samsung hired Cyanogen, you pretty much need a Samsung phone (Galaxy Nexus) for good CM support
the only reason i am using a Sensation right now is because it is the only high end phone (dual core) that supports my $5/mo tzones plan, else I would probably have a Galaxy S2 or the Nexus right now since i much prefer CyanogenMod
I'm in same situation
several past phones (Desire GSM, Atrix 4G) and current Pyramid are on CM7.1
I use Automatic Backlight feature, it's absent in other ROMs, I like Dialer and Contacts in CM.
Tried multiple ICS ROMs but I am unable to use them. Cannot remove contact's pictures from contact list (I don't use concact pictures at all), no adjustable automatic backlight, Volume rocker Wake and so on.
I do not use Google Account at all, all programs I install manually after flashing ROM. No market app, no Gmail, no GTalk. No Sence.
CM is the best for me
I have many phones flashed to CM7.1 and tried the alpha 10 for sensation too. But there are many lacks (e.g. reboot when recording video, battery after 10 hours down to 20%) so I went back and waiting for CM9.
This is my own opinion, I don't believe well even get an alpha build of any kind from kmobs at this point of development even in the next year or two years. I asked him about it an he said he was compiling it at that time.
It tells me a lot by that response from him. That he is a perfectionist that want to do everything by himself an I'm pretty sure that he's gotten help by cm team. And that since he got a GN and amaze he may be too busy to focus on sensation. He said he isn't working on those two but I mean if you had to pick between those two and sensation I might pick them.
The best way to get fixes is by yes providing him log cats towards certain issues but at the same time having the source helps so it can pinpoint the source of the issue in the build.
Many devices have already been merged and I think one or two were made after the sensation was released. Whether its fair or not he has the most updated source for pyramid and we as the people only have nothing but watch and wait
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and we will be slowly insane cause nothing happens. But I've read a few days ago in a post, there are two developers?
I'm still on CM7 and it's not looking good for CM9:
https://plus.google.com/113702637309752822154/posts/DkmD4rUQJ66
I know we're not paying him or anything, but why can't he at least give us an update instead of these "mystery" posts?
poopkeen said:
I'm in same situation
several past phones (Desire GSM, Atrix 4G) and current Pyramid are on CM7.1
I use Automatic Backlight feature, it's absent in other ROMs, I like Dialer and Contacts in CM.
Tried multiple ICS ROMs but I am unable to use them. Cannot remove contact's pictures from contact list (I don't use concact pictures at all), no adjustable automatic backlight, Volume rocker Wake and so on.
I do not use Google Account at all, all programs I install manually after flashing ROM. No market app, no Gmail, no GTalk. No Sence.
CM is the best for me
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WOW dude no google account? That sucks because if you had one you could easily edit or delete your contact info by signing into google from your computer. You do know that android is google right? I think you would be much happier with a flip phone.
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This is my own opinion, I don't believe well even get an alpha build of any kind from kmobs at this point of development even in the next year or two years. I asked him about it an he said he was compiling it at that time.
It tells me a lot by that response from him. That he is a perfectionist that want to do everything by himself an I'm pretty sure that he's gotten help by cm team. And that since he got a GN and amaze he may be too busy to focus on sensation. He said he isn't working on those two but I mean if you had to pick between those two and sensation I might pick them.
The best way to get fixes is by yes providing him log cats towards certain issues but at the same time having the source helps so it can pinpoint the source of the issue in the build.
Many devices have already been merged and I think one or two were made after the sensation was released. Whether its fair or not he has the most updated source for pyramid and we as the people only have nothing but watch and wait
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I agree. Kmobs is still a kid afterall. Hes in school and needs to focus on college if you ask me. He bought a GN for $500.00 out of pocket despite telling us how great his sensation was running his build of ICS. Even though it is his money, its pretty irresponsible for a college student to do. Needing a new phone is one thing, but wanting something newer to play with is another.
I dont think it will take a year to get CM9 to the sensation, as I feel Kmobs will eventually turn over what he has done to someone else on the CM team and they will finish it for us. All his G+ posts seem to focus on the fun he is having with his GN.
Yea its free, but it would be nice of him to turn over what he has to another respected developer in the spirit of open source and all...If he hasnt got the time for CM9, then maybe someone else does. Keep in mind, CM is thinking about starting a for profit marketplace. It would be good business to get CM9 out for the maximum number of phones if they want the maximum number of customers. The sensation might not be all that popular though...
Maybe someone from the CM team could speak to him about turning over the project?
Matt
mrg02d said:
I agree. Kmobs is still a kid afterall. Hes in school and needs to focus on college if you ask me. He bought a GN for $500.00 out of pocket despite telling us how great his sensation was running his build of ICS. Even though it is his money, its pretty irresponsible for a college student to do. Needing a new phone is one thing, but wanting something newer to play with is another.
I dont think it will take a year to get CM9 to the sensation, as I feel Kmobs will eventually turn over what he has done to someone else on the CM team and they will finish it for us. All his G+ posts seem to focus on the fun he is having with his GN.
Yea its free, but it would be nice of him to turn over what he has to another respected developer in the spirit of open source and all...If he hasnt got the time for CM9, then maybe someone else does. Keep in mind, CM is thinking about starting a for profit marketplace. It would be good business to get CM9 out for the maximum number of phones if they want the maximum number of customers. The sensation might not be all that popular though...
Maybe someone from the CM team could speak to him about turning over the project?
Matt
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+1
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App
after today I don't think I will go back to cm7 again. I have been running vi all this month and currently on v3.0.0 and it will do until something better comes out.
yes, I do believe knob abandoned our phone and do not expect any release from him. January is almost over and we are left in the dark. The promise I made to myself is never to get a non nexus phone again. I will just wait a little bit to see if they release the 32gig GSM version.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda premium
Just switch to an ICS rom in the meanwhile. I reccomend Virtuous Quadratto.
blurry mms
Im using Virtuous Quattro Alpha3 4.0.3. Any im receiving tiny mms pics. Is their a fix?
c19932 said:
anyone still on cm7, passing on all current ICS roms, and waiting for CM9?
I've been using CM7 since it came out. I flashed virt. quatto just to see what ICS looks like, then went back to CM7.
post here if you are like me!
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I am like you!
I use HyperSensation with Launcher Pro.
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Im using Virtuous Quattro Alpha3 4.0.3. Any im receiving tiny mms pics. Is their a fix?
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Off Topic. Thread title is "anyone still on cm7, waiting for cm9? passing on all current ICS roms"
I could personally care less about CM9. I am running CM7 now and it works fine. I considered flashing an ICS ROM but they all suck right now. Personally if there was a pure vanilla Android ROM (Gingerbread or ICS) I would run that. If CM9 is the closest I will get to AOSP ICS then I guess I will use that whenever (if??) a stable release ever comes out for the Sensation. To be honest I might even be using a Nexus by that time since development for the Sensation is basically dead.
webmaster said:
I could personally care less about CM9. I am running CM7 now and it works fine. I considered flashing an ICS ROM but they all suck right now. Personally if there was a pure vanilla Android ROM (Gingerbread or ICS) I would run that. If CM9 is the closest I will get to AOSP ICS then I guess I will use that whenever (if??) a stable release ever comes out for the Sensation. To be honest I might even be using a Nexus by that time since development for the Sensation is basically dead.
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I counted seven flavours of Sensation ICS ROMs discussed and most are available somewhere online. Only the kmobs 'official' CM9 seems to be lost this year.
On Rootzwiki I asked if the following list was up to date. Here it is. Some exist and some are not, but all are Sensation-specific ROMs in development or possible development.
Will we get up to TEN 'unique' Sensation ROMs soon?
1. TripNRaver already has released three betas of his AOSP ROM for Sensation, over at Modaco.
2. HTC Leaked ICS ROM. Lots of tuning and updates of the major 'brands' of Sensation ROMs at XDA Sensation Developers forum, for 4.03 ICS and Sense 4.0 leak.
3. Virtuous Quattro (AOSP) ported to Sensation at XDA Developers forum.
4. MIUI developer petitioned to release a Sensation ICS MIUI (250+ votes for it). 新年快樂 !
5. TripNRaVer previously mentioned he could do an ICS MIUI port once the CM9 Sensation ROM was working.
6. TripNRaVer yesterday released his own CM9 beta ROM for Sensation.
7. Cyanogenmod 9 team (Keyan Mobli aka kmobs, others?) may be still developing the CM9 ROM, unless there has been any announcement otherwise. No recent news in 2012, though.
8. ? Anyone have another ROM for Sensation that's not a variant of or based on one of the above?
9. ?
10. ?
TripNRaver released a beta CM9 over at MoDaCo, fyi.
BiziBB said:
I counted seven flavours of Sensation ICS ROMs discussed and most are available somewhere online.
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There are only four "distinct" ICS ROMs available. Trips CM9 leak, the two Virtuous builds, and MAYBE Android Revolution. Everything else is just a themed version of one of the above.
yup still waiting. most ics AOSP roms arent fully stable.
Hi sea buddies,
I just have a general question why mytouch 4g is not in the list of ics devices? Desire hd was released on September 2010 and it is confirmed ics where are my touch was on October and global release on November 2010... Both have same processor speed and stuffs... Are we getting ignored of ics??
I do not Wanadoo root? Coz I am a roomy at this.... Please let me know urs valuable comments..
Cheers,
Renga
There has been reports of official ics coming to us, but we won't know until it happens. Feb will have have the ics roms working
If I helped, give thanks, if you please.
........Death before dishonor........
Team inferno
Leader
Yes even I ve seen it on the list of expected ics devices I am not sure how far of a legit news it is... This is a super capable device.. I would love to see ics on this... So all of you mytoouch users demand this on HTC Facebook page ..let the rage begin and get us ics.....
Regards,
Renga
Rengak05 said:
Hi sea buddies,
I just have a general question why mytouch 4g is not in the list of ics devices? Desire hd was released on September 2010 and it is confirmed ics where are my touch was on October and global release on November 2010... Both have same processor speed and stuffs... Are we getting ignored of ics??
I do not Wanadoo root? Coz I am a roomy at this.... Please let me know urs valuable comments..
Cheers,
Renga
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I'm sure you're using a translator, but I still lol-ed at that. Sea buddies?
Not only is the DHD getting ICS, but so is the Thunderbolt which is also essentially identical spec-wise. Because of the MT4G's custom version of Sense, I doubt we'll ever see ICS officially.
@fb that was a typo what i wanted to type was xda.. lolzzz
TeeJay3800 said:
I'm sure you're using a translator, but I still lol-ed at that. Sea buddies?
Not only is the DHD getting ICS, but so is the Thunderbolt which is also essentially identical spec-wise. Because of the MT4G's custom version of Sense, I doubt we'll ever see ICS officially.
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yeah +1
we didn't even get Sense 3.0. doubt we'll be seeing a official Mysense ICS for the Glacier. but of course, we could always port from the doubleshot...
totally agree though, MT4G is wayyyy capable of ICS...
Like I said before. Were not getting ics officially on the mt4g. The reason because the mt4g is a T-Mobile official branded device. Hence the lame mysense that it came with.
I don't think there will be an official ics version for this as it is old now.
How did the desire HD get then.. its a month older than this? :S
on the list here :- http://www.xda-developers.com/android/htc-update-list-on-android-ice-cream-sandwich-upgrades/
posted by a fellow xda mate.. mytouch 4g is also available on expected ics list.. tmo please make this one count for ics..
Cheers,
Renga
Rengak05 said:
How did the desire HD get then.. its a month older than this? :S
on the list here :- http://www.xda-developers.com/android/htc-update-list-on-android-ice-cream-sandwich-upgrades/
posted by a fellow xda mate.. mytouch 4g is also available on expected ics list.. tmo please make this one count for ics..
Cheers,
Renga
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Desire HD is a well known device. It once was HTC's flagship. Also, its inteernational, so a lot of people use and love it. It's a popular device... Of tmobile was to give us ICS, it would be pretty hard
Sent from my Infernalized Glacier!
-Team Inferno
coupetastic-droid said:
Like I said before. Were not getting ics officially on the mt4g. The reason because the mt4g is a T-Mobile official branded device. Hence the lame mysense that it came with.
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This... and T-Mobile seems to have shifted away from Sense to LG's POS framework with the myTouch line, so as far as T-Mobile goes, we're pretty much at EOL. Any official update we get would be a treat.
Regardless, HTC plans to officially update the HTC Rhyme, Desire HD, Thunderbolt.. all of those are powered by the MSM8255 chipset with that sexy 7x30 kernel, Adreno 205, and 1GHz Snapgragon CPU. We probably wouldn't have to do much once they all get their updates. Of course though, only greif we should have is camera. Possibly video decoding too.
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Rengak05 said:
How did the desire HD get then.. its a month older than this? :S
on the list here :- http://www.xda-developers.com/android/htc-update-list-on-android-ice-cream-sandwich-upgrades/
posted by a fellow xda mate.. mytouch 4g is also available on expected ics list.. tmo please make this one count for ics..
Cheers,
Renga
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It's because Desire HD is a flagship device, whereas myTouch 4G is just some random ol' device T-Mobile made after they saw the Desire HD and release that the myTouch 3G Slide wasn't cutting it anymore.
Rengak05 said:
Hi sea buddies,
I just have a general question why mytouch 4g is not in the list of ics devices? Desire hd was released on September 2010 and it is confirmed ics where are my touch was on October and global release on November 2010... Both have same processor speed and stuffs... Are we getting ignored of ics??
I do not Wanadoo root? Coz I am a roomy at this.... Please let me know urs valuable comments..
Cheers,
Renga
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I am not trying to be a jerk, but an official ICS rom would be nice as all the others especially for this phone are extremely buggy, and in my opinion unusable at this time. There are too many bugs, crashes, slowdowns and things that plainly don't work (like you know the basic function of calling people and people actually hearing you, or it actually working.)
I am sorry if this sounds pissy but I am just sick of these ROM's not working, and having to constantly wipe and re flash my phone over and over again, and trying out different ROMs. Finally finding one that works, I am just going to stick with MIUI until ICS officially works correctly and is basically bug free. it's just not worth to upgrade for it flashiness.
I know the DEV's on these boards try hard, DON'T GET ME WRONG. I have been on here since the Android G1 came out, and remember MANUALLY rooting that thing from the telnetD command. It's not that I don't have patience, but at this point with all the work DEV's do on phones now I can't understand how so many ROM's are still really buggy, and get constantly broken in an update, please release working firmware.
I understand that ultimately the DEV's are not responsible for us flashing with unofficial firmware, but you are still releasing YOUR firmware to the public for people to use, to get recognition. This is a catch-22 scenario, where yes your are not responsible, but almost expect people to use your firmware for either recognition or donations. I can't decide who to donate to anymore either, there are just too many DEV's working on too many things at once, stick to ONE ROM. Not five at a time. It's not realistic.
I think at this point, instead of every DEV working individually on there own ROM's, I think every DEV should just combine brain power and make the ultimate ICS ROM. At this rate, a stable ICS ROM will not be out for months. The source code was released in November, and it is now February, and the same bugs in ICS (camera not working), are still here.
It's not only that, constantly re doing my APPS gets really annoying. I am not paying for Titanium Backup, when I am downloading FREE firmware. Every firmware at this point, like MIUI, should have a BACKUP and RESTORE option built in for APPS, so when you do this over and over again, you don't have to pay for Titanium Backup, or re download your APPs, configure your WIFI, set your CPU, redo your menu options, redo your desktop, redo your shortcuts, your widgets, your background etc. etc. etc. over and over again.
I understand this is a different framework, but seriously now. Please stop releasing almost unusable firmware. I am kind of sick of being a beta tester, I do not mind reporting bugs. But at this rate I will destroy my NAND on my phone from wiping and flashing so much. Which CAN happen, and eventually will happen. If you seriously want me to be a beta tester for your firmware, give me a secondary pone and I will be happy to constantly flash and reflash the phone over and over again to test this.
I am sorry if this sounds *****y, but it just starting to get on my nerves. I mean it comes to a point, is this phone even worth it? I can see DEV's are mainly focusing on the newer phones, I do not blame them. But at this point if you want to release your work and have people see how good you are at what you do, ask people to be a beta tester and send them a testing phone so they don't have to risk destroying there phone.
Please forgive me I don't want this to be perceived as trolling but, I have to get this out before I get this out more immaturely somewhere else. I am trying to explain and get things out as professionally as I can.
Thanks
Nafé
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I am kind of sick of being a beta tester, I do not mind reporting bugs. But at this rate I will destroy my NAND on my phone from wiping and flashing so much. Which CAN happen, and eventually will happen. If you seriously want me to be a beta tester for your firmware, give me a secondary pone and I will be happy to constantly flash and reflash the phone over and over again to test this.
I am sorry if this sounds *****y, but it just starting to get on my nerves. I mean it comes to a point, is this phone even worth it? I can see DEV's are mainly focusing on the newer phones, I do not blame them. But at this point if you want to release your work and have people see how good you are at what you do, ask people to be a beta tester and send them a testing phone so they don't have to risk destroying there phone.
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Thanks
Nafé
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I appreciate your frustration and impatience for a fully functional ICS ROM. I'm sure most of us (including the dev) are in this boat. I do take exception to you complaining about being a beta tester. This is your choice. The dev has not misled you in any way as to the code quality:
[ROM/WIP][AOSP] CynogenMod 9.0.0 Alpha [ICS][4.0.3][02.14.2012]
[ROM][ICS][Beta][2.2.3] MIUI V4 || Unofficial Port for MT4G [UPDATED 02.07.2012]
[ROM/WIP][02-14-2012][AOSP] Virtuous Quattro Beta r1 [ICS][4.0.3]
[ROM][ICS][AOSP][Beta 7.1] .: :: Creamed Glacier :: :. [UPDATED 02.07.2012]
It sounds like you are not a good candidate for being an alpha/beta tester and you may want to hold off until you see "Alpha","Beta", or "WIP" (work in progress) disappear from the ROM titles.
T-Mobile has had leaked ICS Roms for both HTC devices running Sense 3.0. The Sensation 4G, and Amaze 4G. Most people felt like the Amaze would never get the 3.6 Update. But now they have a leaked RUU, bloat and all. Now that a good number of Sense 3.0 devices have an ICS update. I think it's time for the Doubleshot to get a ICS update. The Gingerbread RUU was leaked before this phone came out. I'm sure Football will manage to get a leaked Rom. We have all the proper specs, and I know we have 1 Million plus ICS Update threads. But with all the new updates, come on. It's about time.
Fail Xo I posted in the wroung Section! Mods, please move this thread. I'm sick right now, didn't know what I did.
Not Sent From a Galaxy Note :T
I sure hope you're right about this one...
Our phone will literally rocket off for development
Ya... But I just don't see any signs that T-Mobile or HTC is going to release a ROM like that for our phone. Hopefully they do tho!
Typed by ---- oh wait! I'm schizophrenic!
Either way, we've been making stunning progress even without an official update.
Have you checked out the sticky on ICS configuration tree in the dev section?
That's some great progress
I encourage anyone who knows anything dev to pop in and see if they can help. It will make cooking roms much easier and also greatly increase our chances of CM support.
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think again, i can say that there WILL NOT be an official release of ICS, EVER for the MT4GS
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And your basis for this assumption?
Sent from my MIUI.us Doubleshot using Tapatalk 2
rawdaddymagraden said:
And your basis for this assumption?
Sent from my MIUI.us Doubleshot using Tapatalk 2
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There is no definitive word either way yet...so everything is an assumption
rawdaddymagraden said:
And your basis for this assumption?
Sent from my MIUI.us Doubleshot using Tapatalk 2
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Undeadk9 was claiming that he knew a "level 3" tech support at T-Mobile who told him there would not be any ICS for MT4GS. I heard all that sort of crap back when I had a Moto Cliq and the MT3GS, some "friend" in "tech support" telling bullsh*t. No doubt there is a friend, but believing that friend has information that nobody else has is very unrealistic.
T-Mobile updated even the ancient original MyTouch from 1.6 all the way to Froyo 2.2. I don't see them completely abandoning this phone, especially since the hardware is so similar to their other models like the Amaze 4G and Sensation 4G. HTC would only need to incorporate the Genius system.
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... reports of this phone being end of life'd very shortly, you can almost garentee they have no interest in updating this phone to ICS. Watch and see, it happens with almost all their phones.
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You just confirmed that you really don't know sh*t. EOL has no bearing on whether a phone receives an update. T-Mobile has updated many phones long after they went EOL in their system. The entire MyTouch lineup, including the original, got updated to Froyo within a few months of each other, LOOOOOOONG after they had all gone EOL.
And what's the crap about no development on this phone? You can't be taken seriously spewing crap like that. Look around, dude. Here and Virtuous are full of dev for this phone.
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Official update or not, we already have a lot of stable ICS roms (primadonna, Inquisition, AOKP, insert whatever you please here). And the few kinks are just a matter of time
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I have to interject here. STABLE ROMs? Are you insane?
I'm sorry but MMS and Bluetooth not working (to name a few of your "kinks") is a pretty f**king big deal. I would never call that stable.
And the closest to stable is DeSensed, which is ridiculous considering imitation widgets are GARBAGE in comparison.
Let's remember: Virtuous sets the standard for "stable". Period. Don't get me wrong, the developer community is great and I have appreciated them very much so over the years. But don't go branding their work to save your argument.
I hope that an official ICS update comes, but I doubt it. With the 3G slide, at least they kept telling everyone that an update was coming and it eventually came. Not the same case here.
Wow ..... I love xda and all these stable roms. These guys do a hell of a job. Dont let people get ya down we love all the devs here.... Im running premadonna right now and its quite stable
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I'm sorry but MMS and Bluetooth not working (to name a few of your "kinks")
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Don't know what rom you are talking about MMS and Bluetooth, but Primadonna has MMS, Bluetooth and almost everything else working for me. The main feature it doesn't have is tethering, but Opengarden and Barnacle does the trick on that too...
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I have to interject here. STABLE ROMs? Are you insane?
I'm sorry but MMS and Bluetooth not working (to name a few of your "kinks") is a pretty f**king big deal. I would never call that stable.
And the closest to stable is DeSensed, which is ridiculous considering imitation widgets are GARBAGE in comparison.
Let's remember: Virtuous sets the standard for "stable". Period. Don't get me wrong, the developer community is great and I have appreciated them very much so over the years. But don't go branding their work to save your argument.
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I threw AOKP in the mix by mistake. Either way, you're missing the point. There are stable (DEFINE: something I can use daily, with features I won't miss - obviously that differs from person to person) ICS roms out there. And if something like autobrightness isn't working, and that's what got you in a hunch, then you need to stick to the stock rom. Honestly I could care less about little quibbles like that.
My point is 95% of what you would need, even on a daily basis is working. And for some roms, it's even more than that. That's pretty outstanding considering we don't even have an official kernel or update.
Honestly, this thread has spiraled into a pointless opinion thread.
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I keep seeing people on here saying "phones with sense 3.0". I hope yall realize that we don't even have a real version of Sense.. its a Rosie/Doubleshot version. I don't see HTC modifying/myTouching the new version of sense and ICS for the doubleshot.
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I am sticking with it and telling you that you will not see ICS for the MyTouch 4G Slide as an official T-Mobile USA Release.
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Which is simply your uninformed and unknowing opinion, no more credible than anyone which differs. You claimed to have "inside information", which is pure bullsh*t.
I hope so. None of the custom ICS ROMs are stable, always several things missing or not working that prevent me from using it long term and those ROMs havent been updated in over a month.
Like I've said in several ics threads like this, the mytouch 4g will not receive ics.
Reason being, the mt4g has T-Mobile's sense version(my sense). For the mytouch 4g to be able to receive ics, T-Mobile would have to get rid of their mysense version of sense which they won't do on a T-Mobile specific device or HTC would have to create 2 versions of ics, one compatible with mytouch 4g's mysense and a regular ics for the rest of the devices.
You guys also gotta realize we didn't even receive a sense 3.0 update.
U all keep forgetting that HTC rebranded the phone in canada to the HTC Panache...
So its not only a MYSENSE Tmobile phone
so it is possible that other carriers in canada request that ICS gets on this phone
thats my 2 cents on this subject
tradeware said:
U all keep forgetting that HTC rebranded the phone in canada to the HTC Panache...
So its not only a MYSENSE Tmobile phone
so it is possible that other carriers in canada request that ICS gets on this phone
thats my 2 cents on this subject
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yea i was thinking about that.. maybe the panache version will get the update
i hope so, but honestly i doubt it because i dont think there are many panache users here most would have went with the amaze or galaxy nexus
tradeware said:
U all keep forgetting that HTC rebranded the phone in canada to the HTC Panache...
So its not only a MYSENSE Tmobile phone
so it is possible that other carriers in canada request that ICS gets on this phone
thats my 2 cents on this subject
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Exactly, in Canada. If my memory serves me rights, they didn't even receive android 2.3.4.
But lets say he Canadian version of the mytouch receives ics, the US T-Mobile won't. Again same reason, panache=sense/T-Mobile mytouch 4g=mysense.
So, I wouldn't have the first clue on how to get jelly bean on a sidekick. But I hear its a pretty versatile OS. I was wondering if any of you coders thought it would be possible to do?
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So, I wouldn't have the first clue on how to get jelly bean on a sidekick. But I hear its a pretty versatile OS. I was wondering if any of you coders thought it would be possible to do?
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We don't even have GINGERBREAD! This phone will never run Jellybean.
lol... is this a troll or what? We have Froyo = v2.2. We would all love v2.3, v4.0, or v4.1 (jellybean). All of those are POSSIBLE, but no coders have done it. I think it is damn-near-impossible unless we get some Samsung source-code (which I thought I read was released a while back, but either I was mistaken or just nobody has stepped up to the plate yet).
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lol... is this a troll or what? We have Froyo = v2.2. We would all love v2.3, v4.0, or v4.1 (jellybean). All of those are POSSIBLE, but no coders have done it. I think it is damn-near-impossible unless we get some Samsung source-code (which I thought I read was released a while back, but either I was mistaken or just nobody has stepped up to the plate yet).
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We have source, we just don't have any developers.
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We have source, we just don't have any developers.
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Sduvick and windxixi got pretty far into the porting process.
The problem is that while Samsung did indeed release source code to the linux kernel and select other bits, their source drop was a mess. There are a huge number of differences between the SK4G source and stock Froyo kernel source.
Someone who was very familiar with the changes between Froyo and Gingerbread could probably move the process further along. But no one with that knowledge has taken interest in the SK4G, and as time passes any such knowledge wil fade.
It's a shame. I have the money to buy any phone I want, and that is the SK4G. To me, it's ergonomics (keyboard-design / 4-main-hard-buttons) have not been topped by any phone on any carrier at any price.
If I had the time to learn just how to do all the stuff required, I'd gladly spend the time porting JB to the Sidekick.
I was of the impression that not all the driver source had been released
Code wise the device is a trainwreck hahaha
Also, it's not like sduvick, windxixi, or Samsung spent any time commenting their code. There's no documentation to speak of. It's a cluster*@#&*.
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lol... is this a troll or what? We have Froyo = v2.2. We would all love v2.3, v4.0, or v4.1 (jellybean). All of those are POSSIBLE, but no coders have done it. I think it is damn-near-impossible unless we get some Samsung source-code (which I thought I read was released a while back, but either I was mistaken or just nobody has stepped up to the plate yet).
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What a shame. This is a pretty kick ass phone. Thanks for clearing that up for me. And yes, I understand you're making fun of me for asking. But thanks all the same.:crying:
Misleading title :/
Ok, so i know I've been away for A LONG time now, but, bear with me. Instead of put a bounty like most sections do to get 2.3, 4.0 and possibly jellybean, how about we just chip in a SK4G. I know that might be a big give away, but the main reason i didn't think developers where interested in this phone is because,
1) It kinda had barely any advertising, and when it did it was fairly short.
2) It's a budget phone for people that want a smart phone, like me and many others now a days.
3) During the time this came out their where many other big phone being released like the Galaxy S2.
So why don't we try to scout out a developer that can help us with this by offering a SK4G for them to work on, maybe even get this portal worthy as bounty.
I thought with working less hours at my new job, I would have time to help with this, but that just gave the wife more time to give me more work..lol. It just seems like the people who are willing don't have the time and the people that have the time aren't willing.
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I thought with working less hours at my new job, I would have time to help with this, but that just gave the wife more time to give me more work..lol. It just seems like the people who are willing don't have the time and the people that have the time aren't willing.
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And then there's the other type of folks who start. Then the the kangers, trolls, and idiots who spook the devs and they quit. I've gotten over the idea of gb, ics, or jb on this device... fk it, I have better ish to do.
Although I am down to throw a couple bucks towards a dev phone for sure.
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This is my second favorite phone behind the G1 I dropped 15 feet to it's doom. I even thought I would have time to try to build from scratch with my new job, but my wife is keeping me busy and I just don't have time. This is the second time I've been on here in 3 months..the other time was this afternoon..lol. I'm actually due an upgrade and am waiting to see what is coming out this fall.
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And then there's the other type of folks who start. Then the the kangers, trolls, and idiots who spook the devs and they quit. I've gotten over the idea of gb, ics, or jb on this device... fk it, I have better ish to do.
Although I am down to throw a couple bucks towards a dev phone for sure.
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I agree, i kinda gave up hope on anything past GB on this phone. But to be honest, i can see this phone coming back next year because of how popular it was when it did hit the market for the first few months. If they do make a another android sidekick i will be willing to buy it just to see if they worked out the kinks and not make another Frankenstein of a phone. Also i will be willing to throw in some money, and if i have to i can look into providing a Sidekick 4g.
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This is my second favorite phone behind the G1 I dropped 15 feet to it's doom. I even thought I would have time to try to build from scratch with my new job, but my wife is keeping me busy and I just don't have time. This is the second time I've been on here in 3 months..the other time was this afternoon..lol. I'm actually due an upgrade and am waiting to see what is coming out this fall.
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Q3 of phones is basically passed, Q4 nothing major is really coming out besides the rumored Note 2. Other than that right now its Galaxy S3 and One X, which in my eyes the One X might have the S3 beat if we can get the source code for the One X. But other than that, i dont have high expectations for Q4.
I don't see how this phone doesn't have at least gingerbread. I have an HTC hero, and I have been looking at the specs side by side. I have to say it looks, to me at least, that the Sidekick is more capable of running these roms. I have already run ICS on the hero, and it runs nicely. The only reason i can see for not porting these newer roms to the sidekick is simply a lack of users and developers. I think there is less user base for the sidekick than the HTC hero, not to mention the previous incarnations of the sidekick were plagued by issues.
But to close out, I honestly think the sidekick is more than capable of running GB, ICS, and maybe even Jellybean.
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I don't see how this phone doesn't have at least gingerbread. I have an HTC hero, and I have been looking at the specs side by side. I have to say it looks, to me at least, that the Sidekick is more capable of running these roms. I have already run ICS on the hero, and it runs nicely. The only reason i can see for not porting these newer roms to the sidekick is simply a lack of users and developers. I think there is less user base for the sidekick than the HTC hero, not to mention the previous incarnations of the sidekick were plagued by issues.
But to close out, I honestly think the sidekick is more than capable of running GB, ICS, and maybe even Jellybean.
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I actually sold my mytouch 3g slide to get this phone . Like this phone is a big upgrade from it, but Dev wise, not even close. 3g slide has gb , ics and jb . And the specs on that phone are not up there. Kinda makes me want my slide back XP , but hey, I did it for the a/v out , 267 ppi lcd, hummingbird gpu and 1 ghz processor XP
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I wonder if this phone is getting key lime pie..
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